At 5/2/07 02:37 AM, Twerpo wrote: Anaheim wins Stanley Cup.

But it's plucked from their feathers by (place team name) here.

At 5/2/07 08:32 AM, Coop83 wrote: Well, I've watched the highlights and I they didn't give me the angles to see it. Bear in mind that it's when the whsitle was blown, which may have been before the puck crossed the line. I can only speculate though

No, it had nothing to do with the whistle. The debate was whether the puck crossed the goal line, which, anyone with common sense would realize that it's a goal. I understand that common sense is not allowed to assist the decision of whether it's a goal or not, but it should be. It was almost fully across the line before Henrik's pad covered it, but it wasn't for another split second that his pad even touched it, and a puck doesn't magically stop moving on its own. The puck clearly had enough time to cross the line completely before hitting Lundvquist's (sp?) pad. The fact that there needs to be "conclusive evidence" to overturn a decision is fucking bullshit.

Video.

At 5/2/07 03:21 PM, TheBlackDahliaMurder wrote:

At 5/2/07 08:32 AM, Coop83 wrote: Well, I've watched the highlights and I they didn't give me the angles to see it. Bear in mind that it's when the whsitle was blown, which may have been before the puck crossed the line. I can only speculate though

No, it had nothing to do with the whistle. The debate was whether the puck crossed the goal line, which, anyone with common sense would realize that it's a goal. I understand that common sense is not allowed to assist the decision of whether it's a goal or not, but it should be. It was almost fully across the line before Henrik's pad covered it, but it wasn't for another split second that his pad even touched it, and a puck doesn't magically stop moving on its own. The puck clearly had enough time to cross the line completely before hitting Lundvquist's (sp?) pad. The fact that there needs to be "conclusive evidence" to overturn a decision is fucking bullshit.

Video.

i know what you mean by that and i always get pissed off when that happens. but THEY CANNOT SEE IT. so they have to assume it didnt go in. unless it was called a goal before they went upstairs.

i think that that is a gay rule. and if its under the pad( and we know it is), its a goal.

Though id have to say something right now...

WINGS SUCK! SCREW YOU YOU OLD MAN HASEK! sharks are up 2-0 and OTTAWA IS UP 3 games to 1!

At 5/2/07 08:32 AM, Coop83 wrote:
Come on man, I want more than 4 words to tell me what's going on in hockey this year. I think the winner will come from the Rangers / Sabres series or from the Ducks / Canucks series. Don't rule out Vancouver until they have lost 4. They'd only lost 3 last time I checked.

I was just giving my prediction. I don't have anything to really back it up, I just keep having this gut feeling that they're at least going to make it to the finals. I kinda want them to win it too, they deserve it.

On a side note, check out this kid's crazy dekes. I can't believe he's only 13.

http://tubed.ohhsnap.com/?p=44

as long as the puck is on the ducks side vancouver can win

At 5/2/07 03:21 PM, TheBlackDahliaMurder wrote: No, it had nothing to do with the whistle. The debate was whether the puck crossed the goal line, which, anyone with common sense would realize that it's a goal.

Where's my rulebook? I was pretty sure that the rules stated that you need to be sure that the whole puck has crossed the line. On the video evidence I can see, the puck was not wholly across the line - there was not white ice between the line and the puck. Therefore no goal.

I understand that common sense is not allowed to assist the decision of whether it's a goal or not, but it should be. It was almost fully across the line before Henrik's pad covered it, but it wasn't for another split second that his pad even touched it, and a puck doesn't magically stop moving on its own.

You've made a grave error there - it almost crossed the line. Almost does not mean it did. I know we could extrapolate and state that by the laws of physics etc, the puck would almost certainly have gone on to cross the line, but there is nothing to say in the Hockey Rulebook that you ahve got to bring the laws of physics into it. If the puck can definately be seen to cross the line, the goal should stand. No TV angle gave definative proof.

The puck clearly had enough time to cross the line completely before hitting Lundvquist's (sp?) pad. The fact that there needs to be "conclusive evidence" to overturn a decision is fucking bullshit.

The video link is great and it's the best angle I've seen of it, but I still agree with the authorities that the goal shouldn't have been awarded. Buffalo has had worse luck than this 50/50 call going against them - Roenick shooting the puck through the side netting a few years back. That was worse, since no-one noticed until the intermission.

At 5/2/07 11:35 PM, AtomicTerrorist wrote: i know what you mean by that and i always get pissed off when that happens. but THEY CANNOT SEE IT. so they have to assume it didnt go in. unless it was called a goal before they went upstairs.

Ah, someone else who understands the rules

i think that that is a gay rule. and if its under the pad( and we know it is), its a goal.

What are we going to do? Get transmitters put in the pucks so we can use GPS to determine if the puck has crossed to goal line before the goalie covers the puck up with glove, pad (or indeed Ass, if your name happens to be Doiminic Hasek)?

It might work, but it would not be cost effective

Buffalo is tied up....

Wings stole game #4!

God I love hockey!

I call Senator - Wings for the grand final!

rofl, a bitter buffalo fan.

After the ridiculous kicking motion non-goal that went in their favor, and the majority of the officiating thus far in the series.

oh friggin' wah.

At 5/3/07 05:05 AM, Coop83 wrote:

i think that that is a gay rule. and if its under the pad( and we know it is), its a goal.

What are we going to do? Get transmitters put in the pucks so we can use GPS to determine if the puck has crossed to goal line before the goalie covers the puck up with glove, pad (or indeed Ass, if your name happens to be Doiminic Hasek)?

It might work, but it would not be cost effective

lol i know we can do nothing about it. and since we cannot tell, it shouldnt be a goal. I just hate it when the goalie brings his glove with the puck into the net, but since part of the glove is out and they cant see it, its no goal. Ottawa lost a game by a decision like that :(

Frig Stupid detroit came back :'(

GO VANCOUVER! (stupid ducks came back in game 4 :( )

And BTW. I HATE THAT STUPID OFFLIMIT ZONE FOR THE GOALIES. >:(
and the delay of game penalty for throwing it over the glass is gay too.
and... fu**ing hooking calls. it should only be a penalty if there is interferance, not just cause the stick is there

iv hated them since the ideas were

At 5/3/07 06:10 PM, Canas wrote: Not talking about the obvious Briere goal, as much as the entire reffing in every single series thus far. The terrible non-goal by Ottawa, the disallowed obvious ones in the Rangers series, the nothing calls in almost every game, etc.

what non goal by ottawa?

Absolutely atrocious and terrible for the sport.

tryue. the reffing has sucked. in the ottawa game, they sometimes called trips sometimes didnt. if they felt like it, someone is got a hooking call

At 5/3/07 05:05 AM, Coop83 wrote:

Buffalo has had worse luck than this 50/50 call going against them - Roenick shooting the puck through the side netting a few years back. That was worse, since no-one noticed until the intermission.

Actually that was LeClair.

Nice prediction, guys. :)

Fuck Drury. It is looking really grim for the Rangers now...

At 5/4/07 10:43 PM, oc-fuzzy wrote: Fuck Drury. It is looking really grim for the Rangers now...

I fucking love it!!

I went down the street and heard everyone freaking out and had horns blowing and cars honking, people shouting.

This Stanley Cups means much more to us than it ever can for you.

At 5/4/07 11:56 PM, TheBlackDahliaMurder wrote:

This Stanley Cups means much more to us than it ever can for you.

Yea, bandwagon hoppers sure are in it for the long haul.

At 5/5/07 12:56 AM, VeryProudofYa wrote:

At 5/4/07 11:56 PM, TheBlackDahliaMurder wrote:

This Stanley Cups means much more to us than it ever can for you.

Yea, bandwagon hoppers sure are in it for the long haul.

I live in Buffalo asshole.

At 5/5/07 01:33 AM, TheBlackDahliaMurder wrote:

At 5/5/07 12:56 AM, VeryProudofYa wrote:

At 5/4/07 11:56 PM, TheBlackDahliaMurder wrote:

This Stanley Cups means much more to us than it ever can for you.

Yea, bandwagon hoppers sure are in it for the long haul.

I live in Buffalo asshole.

It was more your use of the word, "us" that I was referring to. Which, in your sentence, seemed to imply Buffalo fans in general.

At 5/5/07 12:52 PM, Canas wrote:

More like, American fans in general.

Even "hockeytown" can't even sell out playoff games. Now if they make it to the third round, I imagine all the dormant Wings fans will just sprout up out of the ground.

Same goes for every other yankee team.

There'd be additional canadian teams if they could churn profits.

WINNIPEG PREDS

Move the Coyotes to Hartford plz.

New Jersey is out. It'll prolly come down to Buffalo vs. Ottowa. For that, I'm going with Buffalo.

For the Eastern Conference it's kinda a wild card. I'll say that Red Wings will win their series, but lose against the Ducks.

Overall, I still think the Ducks will win.

At 5/5/07 03:51 AM, VeryProudofYa wrote: It was more your use of the word, "us" that I was referring to. Which, in your sentence, seemed to imply Buffalo fans in general.

No, I was referring to true Buffalo fans. The ones that watched them before they were good. I know I'm a real fan. I have been going to their games since I was 7. It's a shame I can't ever get tickets anymore. Buffalo needs a big win like this. Our city is dying.

At 5/5/07 10:25 PM, Twerpo wrote: New Jersey is out. It'll prolly come down to Buffalo vs. Ottowa. For that, I'm going with Buffalo.

Shit, I wanted NJ to win. Well, I don't know about Buffalo and Ottawa. They were struggling against Ottawa during the regular season. I don't know if Buffalo will beat New York. I mean, Buffalo certainly outplayed New York last night, but Lundqvist was just unbelievable. I think he's the only reason they have won 2 games.

For the Eastern Conference it's kinda a wild card. I'll say that Red Wings will win their series, but lose against the Ducks.

I hope San Jose wins. They are still in it I think.

Overall, I still think the Ducks will win.

I disagree. I think the winner is in the Easter Conference somewhere. Either Buffalo or Ottawa.

At 5/5/07 11:31 PM, Canas wrote:

At 5/5/07 10:25 PM, Twerpo wrote: For the Eastern Conference it's kinda a wild card. I'll say that Red Wings will win their series, but lose against the Ducks.

This just in

The Red Wings and the Ducks have moved to the Eastern conference.

More at eleven.

You know what I meant.

>:[

Face it everyone, you were saying that the Flames would beat the wings, then it was the Sharks... now the Ducks. Face it, the Wings are screwing all your predictions! They are going to the cup!

At 4/26/07 07:23 AM, Snowy-Beast wrote:

At 4/26/07 02:18 AM, Kamron wrote:

At 4/26/07 02:18 AM, Kamron wrote:

At 4/25/07 06:50 PM, Snowy-Beast wrote:

Wings will destroy the Sharks...

They don't loose very often at home 41 games played, 4 lost in regular times... it speaks for it-self. They'll win 3 at home and still one in San Jose; I put my bet on the Wings in 6!

Can I dick slap you when the Sharks take the series?

As long as you swallow me when the Sharks falls, and Wings prevail.

Then it's a date.

So when do we meet up?

My prediction for Ottawa and Buffalo:

Ottawa, 4 games to 1. 'nuff said.

At 5/6/07 05:03 PM, Canas wrote:
Even if they make it past the Sharks, they won't get by the Ducks.

And if they get passed the horribly overwhelming odds against them by beating the Ducks, Buffalo and Ottawa are both much better teams than the Wings.

Cup will go to the east, as usual. Not saying who, but i've got a feeling that the Sabres are going to lose.

You are sooo wrong. Cup is going up West! The real final is going to be Duck vs Wings; and whoever wins will destroy the Sens (it's their year and Buffalo can't do shit about it).

Mark my words.... the Wings will won their 4th Stanley Cup in the last 9 season!

At 5/6/07 05:14 PM, TOEZ wrote: My prediction for Ottawa and Buffalo:

Ottawa, 4 games to 1. 'nuff said.

No way. This is going to 7 games.

Buffalo 4 games to 3.

At 5/6/07 07:56 PM, TheBlackDahliaMurder wrote:

At 5/6/07 05:14 PM, TOEZ wrote: My prediction for Ottawa and Buffalo:

Ottawa, 4 games to 1. 'nuff said.

No way. This is going to 7 games.

Buffalo 4 games to 3.

Actually, you could be right. It's just that Ottawa has so far won all their games 4 games to 1. lol. It will be hard for Miller to make all those saves with Alfredsson and Heatly (currently the point leader in the playoffs) shooting at him. But that doesn't mean Buffalo will surely lose.

At 5/3/07 06:10 PM, Canas wrote: Not talking about the obvious Briere goal, as much as the entire reffing in every single series thus far. The terrible non-goal by Ottawa, the disallowed obvious ones in the Rangers series, the nothing calls in almost every game, etc.

Well, aside from the bitterness you have towards the refereeing of the games so far, last night's game turned out to be a real cliff hanger. I almost thought the Rnagers were going to tie it up at the bitter end. Both teams had a good series and now it's time for Miller and Emery to drop the gloves and go mano-a-mano again.

I still think that the Sabres will go on to the finals and they will be tough to beat all the way - The Rangers were one of the better playoff teams, with good depth.

At 5/5/07 10:05 PM, Buddhist wrote: Move the Coyotes to Hartford plz.

If a Hockey franchise moves back to Canada, it'll be to Winnipeg. They were so bitter about losing the Jets, they are just sitting, waiting to grab any available franchise who wants a fresh start. Personally, I'd say give them the Penguins, they coudl do worse.

At 5/5/07 11:09 PM, TheBlackDahliaMurder wrote:

At 5/5/07 10:25 PM, Twerpo wrote: Overall, I still think the Ducks will win.

I disagree. I think the winner is in the Easter Conference somewhere. Either Buffalo or Ottawa.

Personally, I think that it will be the Ducks and Sabres battling for Lord Stanley of Preston's Cup. I believe that the Sabres deserve to win it more, but then again, any franchise deserves to win it more than Disney's own Mickey Mouse team. I know that Disney no longer owns the franchise, but the good recent performances do not detract from the roots of the club, which makes a mockery of the NHL.

At 5/6/07 12:53 PM, Snowy-Beast wrote: Face it everyone, you were saying that the Flames would beat the wings, then it was the Sharks... now the Ducks. Face it, the Wings are screwing all your predictions! They are going to the cup!

I wouldn't mind seeing the Wings and Sabres, because then we get to see how much difference winning the President's trophy means to the Sabres. They just pipped the Wings to that what seems months ago. If it comes down to a dog fight between these two, we also get to see Ryan Miller take on the team's old favourite net minder, the Dominator (unless he gets injured, of course)

Red Wings won against the sharks, wooptyfuckingdoo. San Jose has no playoff talents. They were only good because of Nabakov. There is no wasy that they'll win against the Ducks.

At 5/7/07 09:48 PM, Canas wrote:
Hasek is a complete joke to watch. I guess any idiot can flail around and stop pucks when they play with the best defensive teams infront of them.

What about his years with the Sabres? He was a flawless wall in front of the net.

At 5/8/07 12:13 AM, Canas wrote:
GG Ducks, Wings to the final.

Hell yeah! Let's go Red Wings!

At 5/7/07 02:41 PM, Coop83 wrote:

At 5/5/07 10:05 PM, Buddhist wrote: Move the Coyotes to Hartford plz.

If a Hockey franchise moves back to Canada, it'll be to Winnipeg. They were so bitter about losing the Jets, they are just sitting, waiting to grab any available franchise who wants a fresh start. Personally, I'd say give them the Penguins, they coudl do worse.

Hartford's in america. :\

Personally, I think that it will be the Ducks and Sabres battling for Lord Stanley of Preston's Cup. I believe that the Sabres deserve to win it more, but then again, any franchise deserves to win it more than Disney's own Mickey Mouse team. I know that Disney no longer owns the franchise, but the good recent performances do not detract from the roots of the club, which makes a mockery of the NHL.

What ignorant horse shit. The Ducks were created for the exact same reason as your beloved avs: to make money. The company behind the purchase has nothing to do with the team desrving the cup or not.

Don't be a jackass.