At 1/29/18 02:16 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote:

At 1/29/18 01:43 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:

At 1/28/18 11:17 PM, FastbootsZA wrote: yes @doctorstrongbad I would recommend the wwe network its only $10 a month

I have been back and forth about getting it. Maybe I will get it in time to see Wrestlemania for free? If they are still doing that deal.

It's worth the $10 considering at the very least you get both the Raw and SD PPVs each month, plus NXT every week. So even if you don't watch any of the other content you're still looking at around 15+ hours of in-ring content every month.

That is true, but I have not been watching as much TV in the last year. If they still have the offer where you get a PPV for free when you purchase it, I will probably get it for Wrestlemania this year. The biggest PPV of the year.

Asuka is so fucking cool I could watch her be a dick and disrespect everyone forever.

Give me Ronda vs Asuka immediately I don't care if it doesn't make sense.

Raw was very disappointing tonight. They claimed Ronda R. would make an appearance, but she did not. Cena buried Finn Balor tonight. What the hell was the point of that? What happened to pushing the young talent?

The only good two matches were that The Miz and The Bar kept their belts.

At 1/30/18 05:50 AM, MPPlantOfficial wrote:

At 1/29/18 11:19 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: Cena buried Finn Balor tonight. What the hell was the point of that? What happened to pushing the young talent?

Come on man, don't be one of those "X losez a match gurrr Cena gut hez SHovel! >:((((" guys.

So you have to understand how the top brass sees Balor to understand the way he'll get booked. They actually do beleive he's a top talent in the ring, and a good promo worker. They aren't burying him by having him lose to guys like Cena, they are, in fact, protecting his demon persona.

If vanilla Balor was winning all his matches against the top guys, the demon would have zero value. Vince has said he doesn't thing Finn Balor is a top draw, but the Demon IS. People always leave out that last part.

The thing with the Demon... if Finn busts it out at every single PPV, or even on free TV, it gets over exposed and loses it's mystique. There's a good reason the Undertaker actually got more popular when he went part time, and why Bray Wyatt has struggled with his character being on TV every single week.

We also pretty much know that barring an injury, Roman Reigns is the most likely winner of Elimination Chamber, with Braun Strowman as the backup plan. Cena is in that match to get those guys over, just like he got Nakamura over in the Rumble. When Cena loses the chamber match, they can build up to a rematch with Balor... and Cena vs The Demon is going to sell network subscriptions.

Also, they spent a lot of time showing how Cena is actually letting the crowd get to him for the first time ever. It's a possible sign they may finally be pulling the trigger on a heel run for him. A heel Cena could take his frustrations out on Vanilla Balor, and force the Demon out for Mania. No matter who wins that match, that is not anyone getting buried. That is putting 2 guys in a show stealing match on the biggest stage of them all.

You really have to look at how the business works before you start saying people are getting buried. Losing is not the same as getting buried. Had Balor hit Cena with a coup de gras, and Cena kicked out of it like it was nothing, then sure, you could go there. But Cena sold all of Balor's offense. He even made it look like Balor could match his strength several times. He may have won, but he left Balor looking like an equal, not a jobber.

At 1/30/18 05:50 AM, MPPlantOfficial wrote:

At 1/29/18 11:19 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: Cena buried Finn Balor tonight. What the hell was the point of that? What happened to pushing the young talent?

WWE seems to have restored their faith in Balor last night not only making him the Iron Man of the Rumble but also among the top 4 not to mention tying with Reigns on 4 Eliminations which is the most eliminated by a single competitor last night.

That is true, but they are going very slow.

NOW think about last week; Cena puts over Elias big time. On the 25th anniv of Raw.

So what I think happened was Vinnie changed his mind tonight putting Balor in Joe's spot and having Elias in his first no.1 contender opportunity (which we know he's not winning) and fighting for the IC title soon too.
We could be seeing a Balor-Cena II come wrestlemania and give 'em 30 minutes and we're in for a treat,

Elias is talented and is a great young talent. Cena is getting old, and wasn't that great to begin with.

We know it WILL BE Roman-Lesnar WM34 but he lost a lot of momentum tonight.

If it does to come to this, Lesnar better win. It would be great to see Roman lose.

At 1/30/18 02:30 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote:

At 1/30/18 05:50 AM, MPPlantOfficial wrote:

At 1/29/18 11:19 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: Cena buried Finn Balor tonight. What the hell was the point of that? What happened to pushing the young talent?

Come on man, don't be one of those "X losez a match gurrr Cena gut hez SHovel! >:((((" guys.

So you have to understand how the top brass sees Balor to understand the way he'll get booked. They actually do beleive he's a top talent in the ring, and a good promo worker. They aren't burying him by having him lose to guys like Cena, they are, in fact, protecting his demon persona.

If vanilla Balor was winning all his matches against the top guys, the demon would have zero value. Vince has said he doesn't thing Finn Balor is a top draw, but the Demon IS. People always leave out that last part.

The thing with the Demon... if Finn busts it out at every single PPV, or even on free TV, it gets over exposed and loses it's mystique. There's a good reason the Undertaker actually got more popular when he went part time, and why Bray Wyatt has struggled with his character being on TV every single week.

We also pretty much know that barring an injury, Roman Reigns is the most likely winner of Elimination Chamber, with Braun Strowman as the backup plan. Cena is in that match to get those guys over, just like he got Nakamura over in the Rumble. When Cena loses the chamber match, they can build up to a rematch with Balor... and Cena vs The Demon is going to sell network subscriptions.

Also, they spent a lot of time showing how Cena is actually letting the crowd get to him for the first time ever. It's a possible sign they may finally be pulling the trigger on a heel run for him. A heel Cena could take his frustrations out on Vanilla Balor, and force the Demon out for Mania. No matter who wins that match, that is not anyone getting buried. That is putting 2 guys in a show stealing match on the biggest stage of them all.

You really have to look at how the business works before you start saying people are getting buried. Losing is not the same as getting buried. Had Balor hit Cena with a coup de gras, and Cena kicked out of it like it was nothing, then sure, you could go there. But Cena sold all of Balor's offense. He even made it look like Balor could match his strength several times. He may have won, but he left Balor looking like an equal, not a jobber.

The point of the story was to show that Finn might potentially go full heel. Like when he was in Japan. when he was the Real Rock n Rolla. Please people watch things outside of WWE. WWE is mostly trash aside from Asuka and NXT Takeovers. Some people haven't been watching wrestling long enough to know what a burial is. A burial is what Bayley is going through. Creative has nothing the character isn't resonating, creatives not trying with her, shes fucking up, shes been exposed and what the plans that would have been promising for her changed and shes just there now in comparison to her NXT run which was consistent.

At 2/11/18 02:38 AM, MPPlantOfficial wrote:

At 2/11/18 02:26 AM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: The point of the story was to show that Finn might potentially go full heel. Like when he was in Japan. when he was the Real Rock n Rolla. Please people watch things outside of WWE. WWE is mostly trash aside from Asuka and NXT Takeovers. Some people haven't been watching wrestling long enough to know what a burial is. A burial is what Bayley is going through. Creative has nothing the character isn't resonating, creatives not trying with her, shes fucking up, shes been exposed and what the plans that would have been promising for her changed and shes just there now in comparison to her NXT run which was consistent.

It's not about watching it long enough.
Problem is kids like to take a word, twist the definition to fit their needs (99.99% if the time to be used the "da l8est Insultz 4 PIMPS lyek me 2 use"). Take the word "Smark" for example. It was never meant to be an insult.
It was just coined to separate people who knew wrestling was fake from those who don't.
By definition, EVERYONE right now is a smark since no one believes it's real anymore. Maybe the only Non-Smark Wrestling fans left are the ones watching it for the 1st time as kids.

But somehow the definition has been twisted by the WWE only people to be (from what I understand) Non-Roman fans and people who listen to Meltzer.

Smarks or smart marks pretty much was basically saying they know that the storylines, drama and matches are choreographed and not real. That they enjoy the product anyway or try to. Marks literally is the carny term for the mark, the fool that will come in and believe the spectacle as real. Then theres the Internet Wrestling Community which composes of every third twat who talks about wrestling on the internet and used to be smark centric. ... And Meltzer's not even the only wrestling journalist, he's just considered the one with the best quality of reporting and the Observer has many journalists writing about combat sports and professional wrestling. And I dont even hate Roman, I don't care for him. I am like "oh it's roman whatever." Hence why WWE-only fans are like groan worthy. I also love people going "I can't wait for this wrestler who I heard about to come to WWE" Why the fuck would they want that?

RAW did an interesting idea last night, they made an almost two hour Gauntlet match. It was actually decent. More Wrestling and less talking is always a great idea. Boring Roman Reigns and old man John Cena both lost quickly without a single win. lol

The Elimination chamber will be this weekend. Woken Matt had better have more promos and screen time. I like Wyatt and all, but I really want to see him get deleted. :)

BTW, I was not able to report on January's RAWs and Smackdowns. Hopefully, nothing stupid like that happens again.

Lastly, I am still upset that Paige can not wrestle. Sasha Banks is garbage and she should of been the one that was injured.

My predictions for Elimination Chamber

Elias or The Miz to win (Men's Elimination Chamber match)

Alexa Bliss to (Raw women's championship elimination chamber match)

Asuka to win.

Matt Hardy to win. Wyatt will be Deleted.

At 2/25/18 11:23 PM, FastbootsZA wrote: Holy shit I actually got all my predictions correct

I am surprised that there was not more discussion about these matches. I know that Roman Reigns is boring and nobody wants to see more of him.

Roman Reigns is poison and will ruin Wrestlemania. Woken Matt was the star of the night. He is the hottest thing in WWE right now.

At 2/26/18 03:53 AM, MPPlantOfficial wrote:

At 2/26/18 02:05 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: Roman Reigns is poison and will ruin Wrestlemania.

Sky is blue

I know, but it can't be said enough. That is why they dropped him down to the US title instead of the World championship. It is a mistake to bring him back to that level.

Look what I found while out adventuring tonight guys.

It’s a fun game. I’d play again!

At 2/26/18 11:52 PM, MPPlantOfficial wrote: Don't like Roman. Never gonna like Roman but you have to admit he cut a good promo tonight.
And sure you can say the script was good this time since it was semi-Worked shoot but I'm he delivered the lines well.

Compare that to his "good" promo about Cena months ago, this was legit.

Now if only he could add about 4-6 more moves....

Anybody that names a move after another figure is an idiot. " Superman Punch " is not only the worst name , but it is also a very lazy move. He also does the spear as a finisher. The Spear has been used for decades. Your finisher should be an original move, or at least have a cool name.

I do agree that he really need about six more moves.

At 2/27/18 12:08 AM, MPPlantOfficial wrote:

At 2/27/18 12:02 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: Anybody that names a move after another figure is an idiot. " Superman Punch " is not only the worst name , but it is also a very lazy move.

Now Roman isn't actually to blame for this since this is what that punch is really called. It's one of the popular routine you do in Muay Thai sessions so whoever named it that before Roman started using it is to blame.

Reigns could of called it the " Roman punch or the Reigns special. "

Though I do admit it's lazy.

It just seems like he puts almost no effort into things. After the Shield broke up, he still wore his Shield outfit for over six months.

Reigns has also failed drug tests in the past. All in all, he needs to get his crap together.

I'm actually starting to enjoy Reigns a little more these days. He's finally gotten his mic skills down, and even though we all know he's the golden boy, they haven't been forcing him into every spotlight of late.

I would agree he needs to start adding to his move set, because that Superman Punch is WAY over-used at this point, but he's not that far off from any other power-based character. He's got a much large move-set than say, Braun Strowman right now, and is about on par with Cena, and he still has yet to hit his prime.

The guy really isn't doing anything wrong, and it's pretty unfair that he's still shit on by certain types of fans because they still can't get over how he was booked years ago, or how they picked him over Daniel Bryan. In hindsight, with Bryan's proneness to injury, it looks like they picked the right guy.

The way they are booking him lately has been very much to appease the smarks. He loses a fair bit on TV, and even when he wins, he's still getting is opponents over with the crowd. It's a far cry from the way they used to handle 'Super Cena', and yet people still act like it's the end of the world when he wins at all.

At 2/27/18 09:29 AM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: I'm actually starting to enjoy Reigns a little more these days. He's finally gotten his mic skills down, and even though we all know he's the golden boy, they haven't been forcing him into every spotlight of late.

I have never enjoyed him, but he seems a little better since they sent him down to midcarder.

I would agree he needs to start adding to his move set, because that Superman Punch is WAY over-used at this point, but he's not that far off from any other power-based character. He's got a much large move-set than say, Braun Strowman right now, and is about on par with Cena, and he still has yet to hit his prime.

Yes, he needs more moves about better names for his moves. Especially, rename the Superman Punch and The spear.

The way they are booking him lately has been very much to appease the smarks. He loses a fair bit on TV, and even when he wins, he's still getting is opponents over with the crowd. It's a far cry from the way they used to handle 'Super Cena', and yet people still act like it's the end of the world when he wins at all.

John Cena is still bad, and Reigns is hovering somewhere around that level.

I would rather see Woken Matt, The Miz, or Elias than Reigns. I know The Miz already has a belt, but he seems to get better and better as time goes on.

At 2/27/18 06:05 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: John Cena is still bad, and Reigns is hovering somewhere around that level.

I guess calling them 'bad' is pretty subjective. You LOVE Hulk Hogan, and from a technical standpoint, he was so much worse than either Cena or Reigns. He was certainly full of charisma, but I would say Cena has him beat on the mic any day.

To truly appreciate these guys, you have to understand the role they are meant to play. You have to have a sort of measuring stick with which all other talent can be measured. These guys do eat up main event slots, but when other talent goes over on them, they are elevated so much higher. Because of this, you have to book them on a lot of strong runs to keep that position believable.

This can definitely have huge downsides. Guys like Hogan, Kevin Nash and John Cena were notorious for letting ego supercede the elevation of new talent in many cases. Guys like Vader, Curt Henning, Booker T, Wade Barret and Rusev would have reached higher heights much sooner if these egos hadn't buried them at early points in their careers.

The thing is, I haven't heard anything that indicates Roman shares that same sort of ego. He's jobbed when asked, usually to give the fans the sense that WWE is listening to them and not using him to bury your favorite talent.

The character of Roman Reigns, for better or worse, is going to be the main guy that all other superstars are compared to going forward. And in spite his relative inexperience, he's actually grown into that role pretty well.

Take his recent matches with Braun Strowman for example. He, very easily, could have no-sold a lot of the feats of strength and brutality that Braun hit him with. Sure he's won a lot of their matches, but never in a way where you actually believed he was indestructible (compare this to Super Cena).

Braun doesn't have a ton of wrestling talent. His beleivability as a monster is a combination of his real physical strength, and his pairing with Roman over the past year or so. You may not like Roman, but you know he's considered the top/toughest guy on the roster right now. And so, when Braun manhandles him, you understand that WWE is portraying him as physically superior to Roman.

Then, take a look at the way he (and, to his credit, Cena) got Rollins over during the gauntlet match last week. Again, he could have shrugged Seth off over and over, making the roll-up finish look like nothing more than pure luck, but he made sure to demonstrate that while he was super tough and took everything Rollins had, he was feeling it, and was actually worn down enough to be beat with a crafty move.

Moving forward, it's not only a safe bet, but almost mandatory that he beats Lesnar at Mania. They built Lesnar up into too much of an unbeatable character. Only someone in Roman's position can beat him without things really looking TOO fake. Balor, for example, is an amazing competitor, but it would be a very hard sell to have him topple the beast.

Once Roman has the title, the whole landscape changes. We know for a fact guys like Seth Rollins, Samoa Joe and Finn Balor are capable of beating Roman clean. And guys like Miz can take him down via underhanded tactics. Roman having the title raises the odds of your favorite people actually getting a title push, and maybe a title run.

Sure, Roman will end up winning the title again and again, but that's the whole point of his position. And with so much amazing talent on the roster... once they get rid of the Lesnar problem, they are going to end up creating more top guys, like they did with the Rock and Jericho during the heyday of Stone Cold Steve Austin. We could be treated to another era where there's 4 or more consistent top level champions, vs the long haul of Cena being the only one of real consequence.

Im back on newgrounds after 11 years, and all I can say is...

TOO SWEET WOOP-WOOP

At 2/28/18 03:51 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote:

At 2/27/18 06:05 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: John Cena is still bad, and Reigns is hovering somewhere around that level.

I guess calling them 'bad' is pretty subjective. You LOVE Hulk Hogan, and from a technical standpoint, he was so much worse than either Cena or Reigns. He was certainly full of charisma, but I would say Cena has him beat on the mic any day.

Hulk Hogan is the original Wrestling Superstar. He was the first Wrestler to break over into movies and number one TV show appearances like the A-Team. John Cena is a rapper, so he is good at talking on the mic.

To truly appreciate these guys, you have to understand the role they are meant to play. You have to have a sort of measuring stick with which all other talent can be measured. These guys do eat up main event slots, but when other talent goes over on them, they are elevated so much higher. Because of this, you have to book them on a lot of strong runs to keep that position believable.

That is true. It is also one of the reasons people dislike Triple H. He has kept many wrestlers down, especially once he married Stephanie McMahon. He could pretty much do whatever he wanted.

I do understand that Reigns has some fans , and that management is trying to make him into the next big thing. However, I am not his biggest fan. I find Wrestlers like The Miz and Matt Hardy to be more entertaining at the moment.

Roman should try becoming a " real " heel. Not just being a " fake " heel. It worked very well for Hulk Hogan, when he became Hollywood Hogan.

Smackdown was boring tonight. If I never see the Usos vs. The New Day ever again I will be very happy. I have lost count of how many matches they have had. Enough.

Dolph Ziggler went from a gimmick, to no gimmick, to kinda a gimmick.

Kevin Owens and Sami Z went from enemies, to friends, to maybe enemies?

The best part of Smackdown is normally Aiden English and Russev Day, but Shin had to injury him last week.

Very disappointing and I have no desire to see Fastlane.

At 3/7/18 09:05 AM, FastbootsZA wrote: Just got my tickets for Nxt takeover & Money in the bank

Who do you think will win the matches? Which match are you looking forward to the most?

Fastlane kinda feels like when your parents tell you you have to eat your vegetables before you can have dessert.

We had our Elimination Chamber entree, and we just want our Wrestlemania cake already. These veggies just don't seem very appealing between my tender steak and that delectable dessert just on the horizon....

The only interest I have in Fastlane is, surprisingly, what Cena's character does when AJ wins the 6-pack.

My predictions for Fastlane

AJ Styles (WWE Championship six pack challenge match)

Ruby Riott (Smackdown women's Championship match)

Bobby Roode (United states championship match)

The New Day (Smackdown tag team championship match)

Shinsuke Nakamura

Naomi & Becky Lynch

At 3/9/18 01:17 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Fastlane kinda feels like when your parents tell you you have to eat your vegetables before you can have dessert.

Yes, just something lame to pass the time.

We had our Elimination Chamber entree, and we just want our Wrestlemania cake already. These veggies just don't seem very appealing between my tender steak and that delectable dessert just on the horizon....

Wrestlemania needs to get here already.

The only interest I have in Fastlane is, surprisingly, what Cena's character does when AJ wins the 6-pack.

Cena should go full heel, but he won't.

At 3/9/18 01:17 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Fastlane kinda feels like when your parents tell you you have to eat your vegetables before you can have dessert.

We had our Elimination Chamber entree, and we just want our Wrestlemania cake already. These veggies just don't seem very appealing between my tender steak and that delectable dessert just on the horizon....

The only interest I have in Fastlane is, surprisingly, what Cena's character does when AJ wins the 6-pack.

I can’t disagree with any of what you said. This show feels like little more than a formality now that the buildup to it is finished. I feel like the only thing that could really happen that would shock me would be if Cena actually wins tomorrow and gets to compete in the WWE title match at Wrestlemania. Even that seems unlikely as the story they’re telling with him is about him repeatedly losing and not having a place at the biggest show of the year.

All of this is a bummer to me because I’m going to actually see the show in person with a coworker. Thanks Vince for giving Ohio a really boring and predictable PPV this year!

At 3/10/18 04:40 AM, ZJ wrote:

At 3/9/18 01:17 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Fastlane kinda feels like when your parents tell you you have to eat your vegetables before you can have dessert.

I can’t disagree with any of what you said. This show feels like little more than a formality now that the buildup to it is finished. I feel like the only thing that could really happen that would shock me would be if Cena actually wins tomorrow and gets to compete in the WWE title match at Wrestlemania. Even that seems unlikely as the story they’re telling with him is about him repeatedly losing and not having a place at the biggest show of the year.

The writers at WWE have been terrible for years. If they try to make Cena, they will probably not make him a full heel. They will allow him to float around as a wrestler who does whatever he wants, but still a fan favorite. Cena needs to change his ring outfit, stop smiling, and do something really evil. He should cheat and help Owens and Sami become co-champions. They are the biggest heels on Smackdown. The three of them could become a heel squad.

All of this is a bummer to me because I’m going to actually see the show in person with a coworker. Thanks Vince for giving Ohio a really boring and predictable PPV this year!

Vince is giving Ohio a sleeping pill PPV. Enjoy the rest and keep waiting for Wrestlemania.

At 3/11/18 10:58 PM, FastbootsZA wrote:

At 3/9/18 09:00 AM, FastbootsZA wrote: My predictions for Fastlane (winners inbold)

AJ Styles Vs. John Cena Vs. Kevin Owens Vs. Sami Zayn Vs. Baron Corbin Vs. Dolph Ziggler (WWE Championship six pack challenge match)

Charlotte Flair Vs. Ruby Riott (Smackdown women's Championship match)

Bobby Roode Vs. Randy Orton (United states championship match)

The Usos Vs. The New Day (Smackdown tag team championship match)

Shinsuke Nakamura Vs. Rusev

Naomi & Becky Lynch Vs. Natalya & Carmella

I only got 3 out of 6 predictions correct, Randy Orton is the new us champion & Asuka will be challenging charlotte

Looks like we might get heel Roode, aka, the best Roode.

Looks like we might get heel Roode, aka, the best Roode.

Jeff Hardy was arrested Saturday night in Cameron County, North Carolina for driving while impaired. Hardy was released about an hour later but is not allowed to legally drive for 30 days. Hardy has a court date scheduled for April 18th.

At 3/11/18 11:07 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Looks like we might get heel Roode, aka, the best Roode.

Roode was a great heel in TNA. Think he would work better solo or with a partner?