At 8/30/16 11:37 AM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: What better way to get new talent over then to drop a title to them? Jericho has a legitimate pedegree. I agree he should probably never be a long-term title holder, but I have no problem with him winning a belt if he's going to elevate a new talent with it. He still puts on better matches than half the locker room regardless of his age, and all these young guys need to be called 'stupid idiot' at least once!

I agree that giving Jericho a title is a great idea, He may have to lose it, but it will be entertaining. He also does a good job insulting wrestlers.

At 8/30/16 03:49 PM, Ganon-Dorf wrote: That's a fair point, but to rebuke I'd like to say that his investment longevity has reached its waning point, he's not young, he can't get anymore over than he is, there are plenty of people on the roster that can do the same job and would benefit from it more than Jericho would.

Just because he is older does not make him useless. The undertaker is ancient, but he still wrestler once or twice a year.

That being said, the WWE has done a great job at breeding talent for the future, largely due to the success of NXT and the work Hunter has done with it.

NXT has been a success. They should keep up the good work.

At 8/31/16 02:59 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:

Just because he is older does not make him useless. The undertaker is ancient, but he still wrestler once or twice a year.

I never said he was useless, to the contrary, I think he's doing exactly what he needs to do at this point, put over young talent to try and elevate them to the main card. He's doing a great job at it, he wins a match or two in a feud and then loses at the PPV when all eyes are on their match.

My point is I don't think he should have a title at this point, definitely not the Universal Title when there are so many guys they've put time into to get to a point where they are credible for a title run.

I'll concede he could have the US title or Intercontinental, but that's as far as I would grudgingly be ok with them putting on him.

At 8/31/16 10:40 AM, Ganon-Dorf wrote:

At 8/31/16 02:59 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:

Just because he is older does not make him useless. The undertaker is ancient, but he still wrestler once or twice a year.

I never said he was useless, to the contrary, I think he's doing exactly what he needs to do at this point, put over young talent to try and elevate them to the main card. He's doing a great job at it, he wins a match or two in a feud and then loses at the PPV when all eyes are on their match.

My point is I don't think he should have a title at this point, definitely not the Universal Title when there are so many guys they've put time into to get to a point where they are credible for a title run.

I'll concede he could have the US title or Intercontinental, but that's as far as I would grudgingly be ok with them putting on him.

I think he should win Money in the Bank, AND the Royal Rumble and win the Universal Title TWICE at Wreslemania :3

At 8/31/16 10:53 AM, PsychoGoldfish wrote:

I think he should win Money in the Bank, AND the Royal Rumble and win the Universal Title TWICE at Wreslemania :3

You forgot to add Suvivor Series going into the Rumble ;)

At 8/30/16 06:03 PM, TheMaster wrote: Oh god please give me Owens vs Jericho.

Imagine the promos! They've both been on fire on the mic recently.

I would be happy to watch that. They could call it the Canadian Civil War. It almost writes itself.

At 8/30/16 06:46 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: And I was referring to Owens going babyface in an antihero role, not Y2J. Jericho has to be a heel forever because anyone who disagrees is a stupid idiot, and they have "it" coming.

Even if Jericho stays a heel forever, he can still win a title here and there. Besides, he needs to get his light up jacket back.

At 8/31/16 02:56 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: I agree that giving Jericho a title is a great idea, He may have to lose it, but it will be entertaining. He also does a good job insulting wrestlers.

I'd like to see Jericho run with the Intercontinental Championship just one more time. It would bring the same credibility back to the belt that Cena brought back to the United States Championship.

At 9/1/16 04:05 AM, The-Great-One wrote: I'd like to see Jericho run with the Intercontinental Championship just one more time. It would bring the same credibility back to the belt that Cena brought back to the United States Championship.

I would be happy to see Jericho with any belt. RAW is Jericho.

At 9/1/16 10:43 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:

At 9/1/16 04:05 AM, The-Great-One wrote: I'd like to see Jericho run with the Intercontinental Championship just one more time. It would bring the same credibility back to the belt that Cena brought back to the United States Championship.

I would be happy to see Jericho with any belt. RAW is Jericho.

Given how important he was in the original WCW cruiserweight division, I wonder if he'll have any role in the new CW division on RAW. He's too heavy to compete, but I could see him being a douchey mentor to someone they want to push into the upper midcard scene at some point.

At 9/1/16 08:36 AM, FastbootsZA wrote: Well The only thing is that Jericho is on raw and the IC title is on smackdown I would say that Jericho should have a run with the US title.

That is a great point.

http://wrestlingrumors.net/sting-hasnt-officially-retired-still-wants-wrestlemania-match-with-the-undertaker/

“That’s the unfinished business — I’ve always wanted to have that match [with The Undertaker], and I know that wrestling fans have always wanted to see it too.”

That would be a great to see. Sting had better win, since HHH screwed him last time.

At 9/3/16 02:49 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote: http://wrestlingrumors.net/sting-hasnt-officially-retired-still-wants-wrestlemania-match-with-the-undertaker/

“That’s the unfinished business — I’ve always wanted to have that match [with The Undertaker], and I know that wrestling fans have always wanted to see it too.”

That would be a great to see. Sting had better win, since HHH screwed him last time.

It should be a retirement match and they end up having a no contest finish and both ride off into the sunset together.

At 9/3/16 10:15 AM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: It should be a retirement match and they end up having a no contest finish and both ride off into the sunset together.

Sting had to job for HHH and Rollins almost ruined his career. He deserves to win at least one big WWE match. Besides, without the streak gimmick, The UnderTaker will actually take a clean pin.

Thoughts on Raw tonight? Banks had a good promo, Reigns seems to be floundering now and is just the guy they stick into matches, or maybe they're just keeping him around like this as punishment before they start pushing him again.

At 9/6/16 12:37 AM, Ganon-Dorf wrote: Thoughts on Raw tonight? Banks had a good promo, Reigns seems to be floundering now and is just the guy they stick into matches, or maybe they're just keeping him around like this as punishment before they start pushing him again.

Owens is a good heel champion. Jericho was good, but did not say, " IT . " The Old Day skit was lame. Sasha Banks should of retired. I have never liked Foley, so I am glad that Stephanie is making him look stupid. She lies to his face, and he still supports him.

At 9/6/16 02:01 AM, slaughterMYdaughter wrote: Jericho's alter-ego has been the best part of raw Whereas Cesaro is still under the radar after making a comeback

Jericho always done amazing with what little bit of screen time he gets. They made him job twice last night, and the fans still love him. Would be nice to see him get a push before it is too late.

I don't think roman has to assume titleshots with his audience to draw

Roman need to stay in the mid card, and does not need another title shot for at least a year. Let him earn his way back.

Kinda hoping the new day split soon while still tag-champs.

There are rumors they want them to be the longest tag team champs. We could be stuck with them for a lot longer.

At 9/6/16 10:43 PM, FastbootsZA wrote: Smackdown wasn't that bad at all

Smackdown was average at best.

The Usos turned heel after attacking american alpha following their win over the usos in less than 30 seconds.

The Usos have always been boring, maybe turning heel will make them somewhat exciting to watch?

I feel like AJ vs Ambrose is destined to be a multi-match feud, so I'm thinking he wins on Sunday, but maybe not cleanly. Ambrose will be robbed but still look strong, leading to a rematch with a stipulation that sells more tickets.

I'm not 100% on the women's championship. They have really established the Carmella/Bella feud, so neither one needs to win to get TV time. Out of the remaining women, Alexa is the one with very little history. I could see her winning and being the upstart with a huge target on her back going forward.

I agree that the Uso's will win, just because you really need a heel team to try and shatter Heath Slater's dreams in front of his 7 kids.

I think Heath and Rhyno will win the tag titles though. As much as I love the 'will Heath get signed' angle, it has to pay of soon before it becomes a joke. Plus, a nice feel-good moment mid-show will really help keep the crowd strong.

I'm in agreement that Orton will win, even though nobody really cares what he does these days. It could be time for Harper to return, or a new callup to be added to the Wyatt Family though. If Bray wins, it would likely be because of help. I think they love Randy too much to have him lose clean, but Bray really needs to start climbing the ladder. Smackdown has a serious lack of top-card heels.

And on that note, I think Miz will win as well, and that Dolph is just one loss away from a long-overdue heel turn. He's always preferred being a heel anyway, and smackdown needs more of that. AJ Styles is just too over to stay top heel for too much longer. The crowd has pretty much been behind him since the Rumble.

At 9/7/16 08:48 AM, FastbootsZA wrote: Well since Backlash is this sunday I am going to make my predictions Right now (Winners in bold)

Dean Ambrose Vs. AJ Styles (For WWE world championship)

Natalya Vs. Naomi Vs. Becky Lynch Vs. Nikki Bella Vs. Carmella Vs. Alexa Bliss (For Smackdown Women's championship)

The Usos Vs. The Hype Bros (Winner qualifies for final)

Heath Slater & Rhyno Vs. The Usos (For Smackdown Tag team championship)

Bray Wyatt Vs. Randy Orton

The Miz Vs. Dolph Ziggler (For Intercontinental championship)

At 9/7/16 08:48 AM, FastbootsZA wrote: Dean Ambrose Vs. AJ Styles (For WWE world championship)

I would like AJ to win.

The Usos Vs. The Hype Bros (Winner qualifies for final)

The Usos, only if they get better as heels.

Heath Slater & Rhyno Vs. The Usos (For Smackdown Tag team championship)

Giving the Usos another champion run seems like a bad idea.

Bray Wyatt Vs. Randy Orton

Bray Wyatt needs to win, and get a push

The Miz Vs. Dolph Ziggler (For Intercontinental championship)

Neither one is that exciting.

At 9/7/16 12:40 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: I feel like AJ vs Ambrose is destined to be a multi-match feud, so I'm thinking he wins on Sunday, but maybe not cleanly. Ambrose will be robbed but still look strong, leading to a rematch with a stipulation that sells more tickets.

It would be nice to see AJ win. He should be the main guy on Smackdown.

I agree that the Uso's will win, just because you really need a heel team to try and shatter Heath Slater's dreams in front of his 7 kids.

The Usos better get so major heat. They better go way over the top.

I think Heath and Rhyno will win the tag titles though. As much as I love the 'will Heath get signed' angle, it has to pay of soon before it becomes a joke. Plus, a nice feel-good moment mid-show will really help keep the crowd strong.

Rhyno is old school ECW, would be happy with him having a title. Heath is okay.

I'm in agreement that Orton will win, even though nobody really cares what he does these days. Smackdown has a serious lack of top-card heels.

Bray should be the biggest heel.

I think Miz will win as well, and that Dolph is just one loss away from a long-overdue heel turn. He's always preferred being a heel anyway, and smackdown needs more of that. AJ Styles is just too over to stay top heel for too much longer. The crowd has pretty much been behind him since the Rumble.

Dolph might be an okay heel. AJ should be a face, and get more spotlight on Smackdown. Cena is boring and needa way less.

At 9/7/16 12:40 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: I feel like AJ vs Ambrose is destined to be a multi-match feud, so I'm thinking he wins on Sunday, but maybe not cleanly. Ambrose will be robbed but still look strong, leading to a rematch with a stipulation that sells more tickets.

It would be an incredible accomplishment for AJ Styles to win the WWE Championship in any manner. I'd have never thought that the man who was the face of TNA for years would be in serious contention to win the belt that Hogan, Hart, Michaels, Austin, The Rock, Angle, Lesnar and Cena carried.

At 9/7/16 04:09 PM, ZJ wrote:

At 9/7/16 12:40 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: I feel like AJ vs Ambrose is destined to be a multi-match feud, so I'm thinking he wins on Sunday, but maybe not cleanly. Ambrose will be robbed but still look strong, leading to a rematch with a stipulation that sells more tickets.

It would be an incredible accomplishment for AJ Styles to win the WWE Championship in any manner. I'd have never thought that the man who was the face of TNA for years would be in serious contention to win the belt that Hogan, Hart, Michaels, Austin, The Rock, Angle, Lesnar and Cena carried.

I see some parallels with Foley, Austin and Jericho with AJ though. Its no secret Vince hates putting over superstars that weren't created in the WWE ecosystem, but sometimes when it's a superstar that was overlooked by their competition, Vince loves to show how big that star could have been for them if they hadn't fucked up.

AJ was the face of TNA when it was still fairly small. Once it started getting big, they basically became WCW light and buried all the original talent to get a bunch of vetrans over. AJ never truly achieved the level of stardom in TNA he should have been given, and now Vince can show Dixie Carter, et al, what they lost. He gets off on that shit.

At 9/7/16 04:09 PM, ZJ wrote: It would be an incredible accomplishment for AJ Styles to win the WWE Championship in any manner. I'd have never thought that the man who was the face of TNA for years would be in serious contention to win the belt that Hogan, Hart, Michaels, Austin, The Rock, Angle, Lesnar and Cena carried.

I think AJ is a hard worker, and deserves to have a championship. I would not be embarrassed like I was when Roman Reigns had it.

At 9/7/16 12:40 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: I feel like AJ vs Ambrose is destined to be a multi-match feud, so I'm thinking he wins on Sunday, but maybe not cleanly. Ambrose will be robbed but still look strong, leading to a rematch with a stipulation that sells more tickets.

I agree, I think AJ should get the win here, he and Cena can have business when he gets back, and Ambrose can chase and continue to be elevated by being factored into that as well. Seems to me with the momentum AJ has right now, and it'd be a good time to get it on him as there's some good top babyfaces for him to work with, and a lack of top heels over there for Dean.

I'm not 100% on the women's championship. They have really established the Carmella/Bella feud, so neither one needs to win to get TV time. Out of the remaining women, Alexa is the one with very little history. I could see her winning and being the upstart with a huge target on her back going forward.

I think Alexa is great, big fan personally. I think you CAN'T put it on Nikki because it sends a pretty bad message and people will just dismiss it as "oh, John Cena's girlfriend wins, booooo". I think Carmella is still getting her feet under her so I'm not doing that yet. Becky is a really solid choice, the obvious choice really, and in some ways I feel like she needs it with everybody continually turning on her and I feel like she's sort of been the forgotten part of the revolution. Much as I like Alexa, I think I might go with Becky first and try to build up one of the other heels to challenge her.

I agree that the Uso's will win, just because you really need a heel team to try and shatter Heath Slater's dreams in front of his 7 kids.

I don't think you NEED to do that. But again I think you have to look at this as division building. American Alpha is clearly going to be a centerpiece and want revenge, I think also the Usos make sense since there's more babyface teams for them to work against right now.

I think Heath and Rhyno will win the tag titles though. As much as I love the 'will Heath get signed' angle, it has to pay of soon before it becomes a joke. Plus, a nice feel-good moment mid-show will really help keep the crowd strong.

I could see that, and it wouldn't be the worst idea to give them the belts, but I feel like since this is a mish mash team, they'll be facing veterans who have beaten up just about every other team of note in the company the last couple of years or so....I can't see pulling the trigger there as good long term (plus, Rhyno has some pretty heavy aspirations outside the business right now). I think they come close, but the Usos cheat and based off of that and the "guts and heart" factor, Slater gets offered a contract anyway.

I'm in agreement that Orton will win, even though nobody really cares what he does these days. It could be time for Harper to return, or a new callup to be added to the Wyatt Family though. If Bray wins, it would likely be because of help. I think they love Randy too much to have him lose clean, but Bray really needs to start climbing the ladder. Smackdown has a serious lack of top-card heels.

I think Bray needs to win here. Needs it. I've heard Harper is at the PC working out the rust and working on getting cleared, if it's a case where he has been, then I just send him over to SD! and he and Rowan help Bray to beat Orton. Get's Bray a good win, gets the Wyatts back together, and Harper and Rowan could also be plugged into the tag division.

And on that note, I think Miz will win as well, and that Dolph is just one loss away from a long-overdue heel turn. He's always preferred being a heel anyway, and smackdown needs more of that. AJ Styles is just too over to stay top heel for too much longer. The crowd has pretty much been behind him since the Rumble.

They could really go either way here....if they want to keep Dolph face, I feel like he has to win this one, take the title and get that rebuilding thing off the ground, Miz has had a good long run as champ. If they want to turn Ziggler, then yeah, have him lose again and do some kind of freak out, another argument for keeping Miz as champ is he's been really good in the role, but people I think still have him pegged as someone who isn't good at what he does and the only thing that makes him worthwhile is the belt. There's some real good options here and I like that.

At 9/9/16 10:30 AM, FastbootsZA wrote: Alberto Del Rio released (again)

He is a good wrestler, but could of used more of a push. Will Alberto go to TNA?

At 9/9/16 01:42 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:

At 9/9/16 10:30 AM, FastbootsZA wrote: Alberto Del Rio released (again)

He is a good wrestler, but could of used more of a push. Will Alberto go to TNA?

Maybe. Rumor has it Paige is quitting, so they may both show up there. They could come into Lucha Underground as a power couple too, that could prove interesting.

At 9/9/16 02:06 PM, PsychoGoldfish wrote: Maybe. Rumor has it Paige is quitting, so they may both show up there. They could come into Lucha Underground as a power couple too, that could prove interesting.

That would be cool if they showed up together. Starting off as heels, they could get some heat.

Who's watching CM Punk get battered in the octagon on Sunday, then?

At 9/9/16 05:28 PM, TheMaster wrote: Who's watching CM Punk get battered in the octagon on Sunday, then?

Hopefully, somebody gets some good pics out of it. Maybe better than the Rhonda ones? lol