At 9/3/11 08:52 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: HHH and Cena are high on Evan Bourne, that is why he won the title. Even though it is a secondary title, I can see him getting into the main event picture in two years if he does not fuck up like Jeff Hardy.

Why hasn't Avie come in and crushed your dreams yet?

At 9/4/11 11:15 AM, 36Holla wrote:

At 9/3/11 08:52 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: HHH and Cena are high on Evan Bourne, that is why he won the title. Even though it is a secondary title, I can see him getting into the main event picture in two years if he does not fuck up like Jeff Hardy.

Why hasn't Avie come in and crushed your dreams yet?

I am serious. I've read some quite reliable sources about HHH and Cena being behind Evan Bourne's push.
If Vince's successor is pretty keen to push you, then the future is pretty damn bright, isn't it?

At 9/4/11 11:35 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote:

Why hasn't Avie come in and crushed your dreams yet?

Is that who I am around here now? Also, at a party last night.

I am serious. I've read some quite reliable sources about HHH and Cena being behind Evan Bourne's push.

The problem for me is always when I hear this shit from sources other then my own. But let's not dismiss it out of hand and try piecing together what I do know that does make this credible:

-Cena has indeed been on high on Bourne for awhile. The problem from what I understand is that Cena will only push for anything so far. He's very very company and kind of a "yes boss" "no boss" sort of guy. Which is actually one of my bigger issues with Cena to be honest. To me I'm more in line with the thinking of a CM Punk. If the bosses will listen to you, you should be trying to push for improvement of the company you work for and if you are in a position of leadership and respect you should help your fellow co-workers. To hear that isn't necessarily a part of Cena's ethic really says to me beyond anything else why he shouldn't be a tippity top guy.

-H is interesting...I suspect the wires might be crossing here. Or this is a case where somebody is taking a general idea that was thrown out and grafting it to a specific name. I've heard H has pushed for, or at least brought up the idea of bringing in more lightweight guys to help highlight folks like Cara or Bourne. This may or may not culminate in any sort of full fledged Cruiser division...I'm wondering if that's what is happening here. That they're taking "H wants more lighter guys and for them to be used as something other then job fodder" to "H is high on Evan Bourne"

That said, Bourne isn't getting anywhere near the main events. He's flashy as hell, but I've never really seen much evidence of personality or overwhelming charisma there. That is something that is needed for one to become a main eventer.

If Vince's successor is pretty keen to push you, then the future is pretty damn bright, isn't it?

Not necessarily. Let's consider H is not the head of the company yet, he is at best part of a management triumverate and I wouldn't even go that far just yet. Vince still has the reins, has his ideas, and his yes men and advisers still around him. I especially point to the idea that CM Punk is a guy they're still talking about "making" and yet they have completely pissed away all his momentum and those extra eyeballs inside of a month. I'm actually kind of afraid they don't know HOW to make top guys anymore.

I wonder what is gonna happen tonight

I've had a few, three Yeunling bottles (kids, I don't recommend the Porter brand, but it ain't bad, and it's kind of cheap so if you gotta, you gotta) and a bit of vodka straight and mixed. I also just read something about the Divas division and with your indulgence, let's start the fun:

IT'S DRUNKEN AVIE RANTING TIME!!!!

Anything in grey is from the original steven fernandez article.

WWE.com posted an article yesterday about how basically Beth Phoenix and Natalya are saving the Divas division.

I like Beth and Natalya, but I don't think this is fair to say at all yet. Certainly they seem to be putting a little more net buzz on it, but they aren't for me any more focused upon honestly versus anybody else. So this smells a lot like an effort to maybe work the girls up and start an angle...and oh look! We have twitter obliging! To the tweets!!

Apparently that didn't sit well with some of the divas. Here are some responses. Whether they are work or shoot, you decide.

I will indeed steve!

Eve: "@WWE I'd love to step into the ring whomever wrote this, & c who needs saving. #Iwillbootypopinyourfacethenmakeyoutap"

Oh fuck you you working bitch. If you hash tag words like "booty pop" then try to claim that you'll "make you tap" I have lost zero interest in what you say. Is Eve a great athlete? Yep. Hot as hell? Yep. But a true wrestler? Hell to the fuck to the no. Learn how to work and cut a promo properly and we'll talk. Right now I just see a lot of mouth. Shut it.

"Don't ever let anyone undermine your hard work, label your character, or set limits to your potential.#BeliEVE!"

In short, don't do the things that Eve and the other divas do everybody. Or hey, what basically the entire fucking roster does! Wake up fuckers! If all of you started getting behind the ideas of a CM Punk, they couldn't marginalize you like they do. They can't fire everybody. Just saying.

"And trust that that's not taking anything away from @natbynature or @thebethphoenix. Everyone is equally dedicated to taking the Divas division to the next level!"

Bullshit. Bullshit bullshit bullshit!

Kelly Kelly: "#divas were just doing what we love, entertaining every week We've all worked very hard to get here just wish all this hate would go away"

Oh right...because someone who has no concept of how to work, and is the champion and thus would be considered the "leader" for her division should dismiss criticism as "hate". Fuck you hon. You're hot as hell, but what did they bring you in to do? Take off your clothes right? Shut up. I'm tired of this trend in the WWE culture that apparently nobody can be criticized for anything. Grow the fuck up!

Bella Twins: "Wow @WWE definitely woke up 2 an embarrassing article you wrote... Well u wanted to know everyone's thoughts @WWEUniverse, Here's Nikki B's

Oh, this should be good!

First off.... Um you want me to slap you with all of my awards and championships I have won?

Outside of wrestling? Irrelevant. Just because you were a good athlete doesn't make you a great wrestler. Inside of wrestling? Also irrelevant because those are championships you get handed.

I was a #1 athlete... Which other Diva was?

Quite a few I'm sure. But even if they weren't, doesn't matter how great an athlete you were, it matters how great you are in your current industry, and you hon? Not so much.

Secondly, Bri & @RealKellyKelly have been the only entertainment that has happened 2 the Diva's Division & have worked harder than anyone!

Oh rly? Bet LayCool would disagree. Bet Beth and Natalya (who have entertained me) would disagree. Some people might be saying "oh you're getting worked" at this point, but this comes from heels, it doesn't further her character to say this, so I think she's shooting. If so, nimrod, shut up.

Thirdly, I've seen 2 girls the past few weeks try as hard as they can to be "models" while us "models" have busted our butts.....

Who would they be? Certainly not Beth and Natalya.

Oh and good luck with the up and coming Divas.... Sure you'll make a lot of money with them.... Um actually NOT!

Can they really be any less talented then you and your sister? Hard to believe. You bitches stole your entire act from LayCool. So I'd be very careful about casting stones.

Lastly, @RealKellyKelly & Us are better than anyone in the past so Katie Raymond check your self and come read this article to my face! NB

Anybody? Did you really just disrespect the likes of Moolah, Mae Young, Penny Banner, Gladys Gillem, Ida Martinez, Lita, Trish, Wendi Richter? The girls who BUILT women's wrestling so you could trash it? Fuck you you whore! You aren't getting an ounce of my respect or a dime of my money ever again if I can help it.

Wow, I just woke up to the craziness!

Yeah, because you see folks, if criticism isn't "hate" then surely it's "craziness". I'm so glad we sorted that out.

The words spoken by Katie are laughable, but I'm a women who will stand for what I believe in...

Really? Was that you "standing for what you believe in" when you and your interchangeable sister were arm candy for the guest hosts? Just wondering.

so...I know what I've given to the fans and that's all what matters.

You know what you've given to the fans? That's awesome, because I really have no idea what you've given actually.

WWE might think your a bunch of puppets that are persuaded by their words..

I think that's the first truthful thing I've read so far. Bet it gets her and her sister a de-push too.

I know how you all feel :) good and bad, I love it!

People who suck your ass via twitter cause your pretty don't count. Also please read this post for a dose of that "hate" and let me know how much you "love it". Liar.

I mean if WWE cared about Divas why do we have such little time on tv?

Cause most of you well and truly suck and giving you anything more then a bathroom break position is a waste of time?

Why were divas such as Mickey James, Melina and Gail Kim released.

Wow, how about we stop with the lies? You KNOW why Mickey and Melina were released, so do I. Gail Kim wasn't released, she QUIT. There's a big difference.

Why aren't wrestlers like Sara Del Ray hired? All amazing!

That I agree with. WWE needs to hire more women who look good and can wrestle, vs. barbie doll models who can't like the Bellas.

.......Kelly Kelly and myself have worked to hard to have an unknown, untalented writer say the things she did. Katie (whoever) Suck it! Love Brie""

So, you're going to criticize somebody else's talent, on the corporate website? Wow, you don't just suck in the ring, you are a complete failure at life as well! Good work Brie, whichever one you are!

Meanwhile, Melina posted the following:

This should be good....

"@thebellatwins "...Lastly, @RealKellyKelly & Us are better than anyone in the past..."-WTF You Gotta Be F*CK!N Kidding Me. #InYoDreams"

Oh those bitches...they made me agree completely with Melina!

"@thebellatwins You know I love you but everyone needs to seriously calm down and think before tweeting. This is not worth it."

And it keeps happening...

And CM Punk posted:

Sanity at last!!!

"So wait. The divas are mad about an in house article on wwe.com that is potentially designed to garner them attention/TV time? Awesome."

Ding ding ding! Once again Punk speaks truth and cuts right to the heart of the issue! Call me a mark if you want, that is your right (like it's also you're right to go fuck yourself :) ). But Punk is the smartest most astute and ballsiest (cause he puts it out there publicly) guy in the business right now.

The women's division died years ago. Yes, Beth and Natalia are good wrestlers, but they cannot make the difference as the rest of the division is nothing but eye candies.

I love when Avie drunk posts. :P

People care about the diva division? Since when? Thats been bathroom break time for a long while now. The divas they have now are for the most part so bland that it just isn't worth the time. Now I like Beth and Natalya since they bring a lot to the table in terms of both skill and personality, but the rest of them? Sure they are all hot but that can only do so much. If the WWE was serious about the divas beyond being eye candy then they would have gone out of their way to find the next Trish or Lita. Someone with the right mixture of talent, ability, and personality to go along with the good looks. They haven't. Instead they keep around girls with that know just enough to get by.

Nothing against Kelly Kelly personally, but she is an awful wrestler, and the fact the the WWE made her the divas' champion is a total disgrace which explains why the division is dead and buried.

Ah, the good ol' drunk avie rant.......how I love those. :P Unfortunately, as always, you're right on the money; the Divas division is STILL fucked as of right now, even with Beth and Natalya (and eventually Kia/Kong/Kharma when she gets back) trying to restore some sort of credibility. Eve can wrestle, and she's hot & all, but uh, what the fuck is she smoking?

Not to mention that, yeah, basically everything Eve, Kelly & most of what the Bellas said is bullshit. Especially the Bellas, since they went from pathetic guest host arm candy to champs for reasons I still can't understand.

We actually do have a potential balance of hotness & talent with AJ, but yeah, she's in job city at the moment. She definitely has more talent than Kelly, anyway (plus what I've seen you guys say about her pre-WWE), and she's hotter than hell. Why not give her a better shot, WWE? Granted, she hasn't been there long, but she'd be a clearly better representative of the division than your current champ is - correct me if I'm wrong.

Huh, whaddya know......leave it to MELINA to make sense of this. Oh, and Punk, of course - but that's never surprising.

I'm glad to hear Santino's injuries aren't more serious. I mean, when your car flips friggin' sideways, shit could've been a LOT worse.

I get the feeling that Nash was never to actually wrestle, but merely to advance the plot along. I expect him & Laryngitis to give Trips the win at NoC, Trips gets pissed, then eventually puts his differences with Punk aside & they team up against Laryngitis' conspiracy, which I'll bet will be out of vengeance over Vince's 'firing'. Let's see just how right I am on this.....

I had my doubts about Sin Cara going heel, but it looks like more of a tweener role at the moment, and he might be able to pull this off. Plus, he still does amazing shit regardless.

I wonder what'll happen on Friday (or Monday), since Henry & Orton went at it anyway, despite Long's 'no contact' order.

Am I the only one who is excited about the Punk vs HHH match at NoTC? I think that it is going to be one of the best matches of the year.

At 9/9/11 11:52 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Am I the only one who is excited about the Punk vs HHH match at NoTC?

Should be good. Sorry, not really a regular of this club. But I've been a WWE fan for a long while and quit watching, but started back up again and catch it on Youtube when I can.

Now, for Triple H and Punk, story line wise, I know how that match will go. Triple H and Punk will have an awesome match, then Nash will come out near the end, attack Triple H. Punk will pin him and Triple H will have to step-down from being the COO. That talent scout character, or whatever, will take over the leadership position and heel it up. I bet that's how it's going to go.

At 9/9/11 11:52 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Am I the only one who is excited about the Punk vs HHH match at NoTC? I think that it is going to be one of the best matches of the year.

I would be lying if I said I wasn't a little bit excited. Mainly because I've always wanted for the two to feud just so they would bring back the Pepsi Plunge. Plus it will be leagues better than any match Nash is involved in.

If you think H is taking a Pepsi Plunge, I have a bridge in London you might like to buy.

I'm not terribly excited for this. Nash won't be there to cause a non-finish (trust me on this one). I just don't see them putting Punk over H, certainly not clean. So what's left? Either Punk eats a pedigree and his de-push is complete. However that's the stupidest thing they could do, and that's usually the realm of TNA. WWE tends to do the second stupidest. I do foresee some kind of interference happening here. Basically WWE should have never put H's COO position on the line because unless they want to put Punk over clean and end this storyline right here and now and send him back to the title hunt...this was a dumb dumb move where there's really no way to get out of it for Punk other then a clean win. Anything else hurts him and ensures that the crumbling that started at Summerslam will complete here and he'll be "just another guy" by this time next month.

At 9/11/11 12:34 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: I'm not terribly excited for this.

Disagree with pretty much every thing you wrote.
The best ending for this match is for Punk to go over HHH.. Nash interference probably. Disagree that he wont be there.
HHH loses his COO position making way for Johnny Ace to become the man in charge of RAW.

There is so many paths that open up from that ending to the match for down the road.

At 9/11/11 06:42 AM, Shaun wrote: Disagree with pretty much every thing you wrote.

K.

The best ending for this match is for Punk to go over HHH..

Clean. That won't happen. But that is best.

Nash interference probably.

Not happening.

Disagree that he wont be there.

Do that all you want, won't make it any less true. He cannot, and will not be there.

HHH loses his COO position making way for Johnny Ace to become the man in charge of RAW.

I really, really don't want to see that. Johnny Ace has just been terrible and it would absolutely be taking a gunshot wound and trying to treat it by putting a hand grenade in there. WWE should have never had H put his position on the line in this.

There is so many paths that open up from that ending to the match for down the road.

But none of them that I can see immediately amount to anything good, and knowing WWE they'll do something horribly retarded with it. I'm fine if this doesn't become a long term program and they decide to do this once then have Punk say "ok, that's done...time to go get my title back". I think that's why WWE is hot shotting the COO thing into it, to create the idea that it's one and done, but I think it would sell just the same as a matter of respect and then once done Punk can go back to chasing the belt and they plan and work from there.

At 9/11/11 12:34 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: If you think H is taking a Pepsi Plunge, I have a bridge in London you might like to buy.

I'm not terribly excited for this.

At least HHH gave us one of his funniest facial expressions in his career. :p

At 9/13/11 12:51 PM, illuminate wrote:

At 9/11/11 12:34 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: If you think H is taking a Pepsi Plunge, I have a bridge in London you might like to buy.

I'm not terribly excited for this.

At least HHH gave us one of his funniest facial expressions in his career. :p

Well, if Punk could carry Cena to have an awesome match, then his bout with HHH is certainly going to be one of the MoTY candidates --- if Vince does not fuck up.

I really liked the ending promo last night. HHH and Punk are two of the best talkers ever, and putting them together is like a straight shot of happiness for my ears. That ending mic bump also had me laughing so damn hard.

At 9/13/11 01:01 PM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Well, if Punk could carry Cena to have an awesome match, then his bout with HHH is certainly going to be one of the MoTY candidates --- if Vince does not fuck up.

Punk didn't carry him, Cena completely held up his end in both bouts. I'm hearing a reversal on Nash from what I heard before. So I'm thinking this will probably be a case of "great match, weak finish". No way if Punk goes over that he goes over cleanly.

At 9/13/11 07:07 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: I'm hearing a reversal on Nash from what I heard before.

;)

Avie's sources wrong? Never!

I was at the Smackdown taping yesterday, good stuff. I guess I can't talk too much about it though until Friday when everyone else has seen it.

At 9/14/11 10:41 AM, Shaun wrote: Avie's sources wrong? Never!

I don't know about wrong, it's quite possible what they reported at the time was things and things simply changed. Not for the better either. Involving Nash has been a retarded move from the get go.

I've heard things about Goldberg returning to the WWE.

Now WrestleMania is coming up and it will be The Undertaker's 20th Wrestlemania. This will probably be The Undertaker's final match, since he is getting up there in years and he does need to retire. The question is whoever goes against him, will they end the streak with 19-1 and thus slaying the dead man or will the dead man go off into the darkness 20-0?

I've heard people talking about The Undertaker vs. Goldberg as well as The Undertaker vs. Kurt Angle. Some people are also saying The Undertaker vs. Hulk Hogan, but I don't know.

At 9/15/11 03:34 AM, The-Great-One wrote: I've heard things about Goldberg returning to the WWE.

Now WrestleMania is coming up and it will be The Undertaker's 20th Wrestlemania. This will probably be The Undertaker's final match, since he is getting up there in years and he does need to retire. The question is whoever goes against him, will they end the streak with 19-1 and thus slaying the dead man or will the dead man go off into the darkness 20-0?

I've heard people talking about The Undertaker vs. Goldberg as well as The Undertaker vs. Kurt Angle. Some people are also saying The Undertaker vs. Hulk Hogan, but I don't know.

No. Just no. I do not want that over-rated, over-used, annoying sack of crap in Goldberg going to the WWE. No. Also, if someone says Kurt or Hogan, do you really think, that Hulk can handle a match without dying? He could barely wrestle to begin with as for Kurt? He's been burning bridges left and right... But yeah, fuck that noise.

At 9/15/11 01:14 PM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: No. Just no. I do not want that over-rated, over-used, annoying sack of crap in Goldberg going to the WWE. No. Also, if someone says Kurt or Hogan, do you really think, that Hulk can handle a match without dying? He could barely wrestle to begin with as for Kurt? He's been burning bridges left and right... But yeah, fuck that noise.

Goldberg is underrated by workrate smarks. He had a real presense to him that could make any match feel epic and was great at working his gimmick even though it was one-dimensional and only created two types of matches.

Punk did the ORIGINAL DX CHOP.......

Do I really need to state how awesome that is?

Usually, I'd be annoyed at Miz being stuck in another tag team again, but this pairing with Truth has been arguably the best. I will refer to them as T.I.A. - Truth Is AWESOME!!! from this point on.

At 9/15/11 03:56 PM, LordKooler wrote: Goldberg is underrated by workrate smarks.

Disagree, Goldberg is one of probably the best case that Eric Bischoff and WCW can make that they actually could take a guy who wasn't very good and through promotion and careful manipulation turn him into a star. Once the streak was done and that initial momentum went away Goldberg never mattered again.

He had a real presense to him that could make any match feel epic

Most of his matches went 30 seconds and he did three moves. The idea of the "streak" made it epic (like even if Taker has a bad match at Mania, and my God he's had some bad ones, it still matters because it's the possibility of the streak being ended). Or the opponents he worked made it epic or matter beyond the 30 second snack food most of his matches were, or how one dimensional he was. Goldberg is comparable to the Ultimate Warrior in just about every way. That is NOT a compliment. Well, except that Goldberg does and has done way more positive with his celebrity for charity and such then Warrior ever did. That I will give him.

and was great at working his gimmick

Is an artificial winning streak really a gimmick? Is just being big and having shit loads of pyro a gimmick? See, to me again it's a case of a completely manufactured guy where anybody who had a similar look could have pulled it off.

even though it was one-dimensional and only created two types of matches.

Two types? I think you gave him one type too much. The only way you could say there was a "second gear" or what not is when he worked guys like Hogan who understood how to lead the brute around and get him to the finish.

At 9/16/11 12:19 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

Most of his matches went 30 seconds and he did three moves.

Still the one match that has me laughing every time i see it.

At 9/16/11 12:19 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 9/15/11 03:56 PM, LordKooler wrote: Goldberg is underrated by workrate smarks.

Agree, loved goldberg in WWE.

He is still a big name and him coming back would generate interest.

Probably won't happen though, shame.

At 9/15/11 03:34 AM, The-Great-One wrote: Now WrestleMania is coming up and it will be The Undertaker's 20th Wrestlemania. This will probably be The Undertaker's final match, since he is getting up there in years and he does need to retire. The question is whoever goes against him, will they end the streak with 19-1 and thus slaying the dead man or will the dead man go off into the darkness 20-0?

Knowing Vince, he will probably make Taker job to Cena in his final WM match in April 2013.