To me it doesn't matter if Christian is a heel or a face, because I'm still a peep either way.

Tough Enough finale is tonight.. who do you think will win?
I'd really like to see Andy win.. especially after seeing his audition tape, he needs the win way more.. but I have a feeling Luke will win.. he's a cocky asshole, but he's good in the ring.

Do you think there will be another season of Tough Enough? I'm hoping so, I actually enjoyed it alot.

At 6/5/11 03:09 AM, 36Holla wrote: A lot of people seemed to be ok with Christian stealing the belt considering what Orton did. Apparently a lot of the boos on TV were added in during editing.

It certainly seemed that way to me when I watched the show. That there were a lot of cheers and a lot of people didn't necessarily see it as a turn. WWE I think has opportunity here for him as a tweener, but I think they'll want to go full heel sooner rather then later...problem is, based on what they did to set it up, it's going to take a major effort on Christians part to turn the majority of the audience away from him.

Christian can always blame the fans for holding him back. Yes, it has been done so many times, but it is probably the best idea Vince can think of.

At 6/7/11 01:55 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Christian can always blame the fans for holding him back. Yes, it has been done so many times, but it is probably the best idea Vince can think of.

Doesn't make sense to me. I'd just try to play it as he thinks Orton intentionally fucked him over in that match because Orton was afraid Christian would have been a "third time's the charm" kind of guy.

Christian can try as hard as he wants to turn the fans away. But I'll still be a Peep.

At 6/7/11 05:32 AM, 36Holla wrote: Christian can try as hard as he wants to turn the fans away. But I'll still be a Peep.

Considering that the majority of the fans are little kids who wank to Cena's picture every night before they sleep, Christian should have no trouble turning them away.

So wait, the boos against Christian were added in? Sense, make does not that. :/

That Andy guy won TE, which was a good call. I haven't watched very much of TE, but between the 2 of them, it came down to the supposed backstories. Luke is a cocky douche (seemingly, irl, too) who only wanted money so he could party his ass off, which is NOT what the business is about. Andy seemingly had a legitimate WANT to be in the business. Not to mention he reminds me a lot of Trips.

EVEN VINNY MAC HATES MICHAEL COLE.

In speaking of that, getting slugged, beer-bathed, Stunned, and AA'ed, in that order......yeah, that was worth the whole show. :P But, why would Anonymous GM declare Austin the 'Guest GM' for next week's 3-hour shindig, if he apparently doesn't like him?

Booker may incoherently babble as a commentator, but he has zero ring rust. I hink Bourne botched his Spinnaroonie, but it was a good try; it IS a difficult-looking move, after all (which is why we all love to see Booker do it so much :P).

Who does A-Ri's new theme music? It does sound awesome, whoever it is.

At 6/7/11 04:37 PM, Tetris wrote: Hey, that's a damn lie. They don't know how to wank yet.

lol, I marked out when the Rock verbally raped the Cena-loving little kid.

Also Corre's full theme.

Why adding to a full theme to a group that is heading towards lala land?

At 6/7/11 10:43 PM, Swackman wrote: So wait, the boos against Christian were added in? Sense, make does not that. :/

Only because some people support Christian in his actions/are tired of Orton having the title. WWE is trying to make the audience at home believe they should hate Christian, but he's so damn likable that I can't do it.

That Andy guy won TE, which was a good call. I haven't watched very much of TE, but between the 2 of them, it came down to the supposed backstories. Luke is a cocky douche (seemingly, irl, too) who only wanted money so he could party his ass off, which is NOT what the business is about. Andy seemingly had a legitimate WANT to be in the business. Not to mention he reminds me a lot of Trips.

I didn't watch one second of Tough Enough before the last episode, but I saw them both get on the mic, and I really didn't like Luke. Glad that Andy won by default just because he wasn't a giant douche.

EVEN VINNY MAC HATES MICHAEL COLE.

In speaking of that, getting slugged, beer-bathed, Stunned, and AA'ed, in that order......yeah, that was worth the whole show. :P But, why would Anonymous GM declare Austin the 'Guest GM' for next week's 3-hour shindig, if he apparently doesn't like him?

Cole's gone from that cocky heel announcer to the guy that everyone shits on. He's gotten thrown to the ground/punched for the past two weeks on Raw and everyone's disrespecting him all the time now. I was also wondering why the anon GM would make Austin the GM next week. Unless, the anon GM does something to make it hard on Austin, but I doubt they do anything like that.

Booker may incoherently babble as a commentator, but he has zero ring rust. I hink Bourne botched his Spinnaroonie, but it was a good try; it IS a difficult-looking move, after all (which is why we all love to see Booker do it so much :P).

I'm just glad they're technically continuing the Bourne/Swagger feud. Swagger tried to get out of it, but Bourne won't let him go. I wonder when they're going to actually cut a promo regarding why Bourne keeps going after him.

Who does A-Ri's new theme music? It does sound awesome, whoever it is.

A band called Downstrait.

At 6/4/11 04:46 PM, Tetris wrote:

At 6/4/11 02:14 PM, Swackman wrote: I forgot about Ron's former NXT rookie. I get 'crying over spilt milk', but that still didn't make the promo any less weird.

We Bostonians really like milk.

...all over our bodies. Delicious milk baths are good for the skin and the crazy.

Sorry for the double post but I forgot to mention:

I watched all of Tough Enough this season and having done that I can tell you a few things:

1) Andy was the correct choice although there were some pretty good rookies.
2) There was a girl that was trying to be a diva and said her favorite match was Alicia Fox vs. Melina. That is favorite match of any era any gender all time...she was eliminated first for being dumb.
3) Austin should host more things so he can yell at people and berate them to cry more.
4) Luke is from Auburn, Maine...a lot of douchebags come out of there. Glad he did not win but he will be around sometime.
5) All reality shows are the same...but this one had Austin yelling at people so it was tolerable.
6) Stunner is the only way to enter the WWE.

It was a good series. Hopefully Andy can make something of himself. If not...well then shit.

At 6/8/11 05:54 AM, 36Holla wrote:

At 6/7/11 10:43 PM, Swackman wrote: So wait, the boos against Christian were added in? Sense, make does not that. :/

Only because some people support Christian in his actions/are tired of Orton having the title. WWE is trying to make the audience at home believe they should hate Christian, but he's so damn likable that I can't do it.

Well, he ain't called 'Captain Charisma' for nothin'. :P

That Andy guy won TE, which was a good call. I haven't watched very much of TE, but between the 2 of them, it came down to the supposed backstories. Luke is a cocky douche (seemingly, irl, too) who only wanted money so he could party his ass off, which is NOT what the business is about. Andy seemingly had a legitimate WANT to be in the business. Not to mention he reminds me a lot of Trips.

I didn't watch one second of Tough Enough before the last episode, but I saw them both get on the mic, and I really didn't like Luke. Glad that Andy won by default just because he wasn't a giant douche.

Yeah, that was definitely the major deciding factor.

Who does A-Ri's new theme music? It does sound awesome, whoever it is.

A band called Downstrait.

Ah, thanks.

At 6/8/11 09:24 AM, Bibby-Ney wrote: Sorry for the double post but I forgot to mention:

I watched all of Tough Enough this season and having done that I can tell you a few things:

1) Andy was the correct choice although there were some pretty good rookies.

I liked the one black guy, which is why I was a little pissed when the audience started booing him; couldn't they show just a LITTLE sympathy for a guy having to take care of a special-needs brother? JUST A LITTLE?

2) There was a girl that was trying to be a diva and said her favorite match was Alicia Fox vs. Melina. That is favorite match of any era any gender all time...she was eliminated first for being dumb.

Yeah, I did see that dumb bitch. She had no business there at all.

3) Austin should host more things so he can yell at people and berate them to cry more.
4) Luke is from Auburn, Maine...a lot of douchebags come out of there. Glad he did not win but he will be around sometime.

So, Auburn, Maine is basically the irl version of the portrayal of Jersey Shore?

5) All reality shows are the same...but this one had Austin yelling at people so it was tolerable.

I don't think ALL of them are..........but yes, most of em are.

6) Stunner is the only way to enter the WWE.

Stunner is GOD. Austin 3:16 says so.

It was a good series. Hopefully Andy can make something of himself. If not...well then shit.

I wonder when he'll debut in-ring exactly.....

At 6/8/11 09:24 AM, Bibby-Ney wrote: 4) Luke is from Auburn, Maine...a lot of douchebags come out of there. Glad he did not win but he will be around sometime.

I find it hard to believe that WWE wouldn't give at least one other person besides the winner a developmental contract now that the show is over.

At 6/8/11 02:41 PM, 36Holla wrote: I find it hard to believe that WWE wouldn't give at least one other person besides the winner a developmental contract now that the show is over.

I imagine Luke and Jeremiah will get one, or have gotten one. I know the first chick they eliminated (Arianna or something her name was) DID get a deal. I would reach out to that dude Martin as well if I was them. Otherwise I think there wasn't much there that they could use (yes, I'm sure some people will be mad I said that about MDog20...but I've seen him work and to me he's far too much into the indy mentality).

Women wrestling died several years ago after Trish and Lita left the company.

At 6/9/11 03:07 PM, Tetris wrote:

At 6/9/11 10:21 AM, Dream-of-Duke wrote: Women wrestling died several years ago after Trish and Lita left the company.

Fucking TNA gives the Knockouts actual storylines, like what they're doing with Velvet Sky and ODB.

They suck, but they're trying to do something.

In WWE, it seems like until Kharma came around they were just shitting around with tag team matches that nobody cared about, and the Divas were just models who decided they want to wrestle, and someone would be named #1 contender because shut up.

The saddest thing is, with Kharma out of action for a year, Kelly Kelly is really the only diva they're focusing on, and while she's okay, she's definitely not as good as the likes of Beth or Natalya, and they're miles away from Kharma's Awesomeness, even if they are good.

tl;dr womens wrestling is a joke

It is crazy because TNA keeps getting some good women wrestlers...then they turn to shit. Where the hell are the women that can actually wrestle as if they are not retarded versions of real wresters? Ones that can look like they know what they are doing. They always look so...awkward wrestling sometimes. Which is why it was great to see them actually sell a damn move when Kharma would come in. There is some potential but you need women that are agile as well as strong and beautiful. If you are going to go for just beautiful then just start a line of WWE strip clubs, Vince. Which, by the way, would be the best idea ever.

I think there should be a triple threat match between Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, and Umaga for the World Heavyweight Cham- OH WAIT NEVERMIND.

That was easily the MOST effort I've ever seen necessary to turn the fans against someone............and I STILL don't think it entirely worked!

FOR SHIT'S SAKE, CHRISTIAN, DO YA HAVE TO KILL A PUPPY!?

At 6/10/11 10:58 PM, Tetris wrote:

At 6/10/11 09:24 PM, mothballs wrote: I think there should be a triple threat match between Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, and Umaga for the World Heavyweight Cham- OH WAIT NEVERMIND.

Well there still could be a Lance Cade vs Owen Hart vs British Bulldog for the WWE Championship at Wrestle UH SCRATCH THAT

It is ok we always have the hardcore match with Crash Holly, Test and Mike Awesome that--SWERVE!

At 6/11/11 12:45 AM, Swackman wrote: That was easily the MOST effort I've ever seen necessary to turn the fans against someone............and I STILL don't think it entirely worked!

FOR SHIT'S SAKE, CHRISTIAN, DO YA HAVE TO KILL A PUPPY!?

Week 2 of heel Christian watch and I'm still a Peep.

I understand Christian. I really do :(

At 6/11/11 03:21 AM, 36Holla wrote:

At 6/11/11 12:45 AM, Swackman wrote: That was easily the MOST effort I've ever seen necessary to turn the fans against someone............and I STILL don't think it entirely worked!

FOR SHIT'S SAKE, CHRISTIAN, DO YA HAVE TO KILL A PUPPY!?

Week 2 of heel Christian watch and I'm still a Peep.

I understand Christian. I really do :(

See, Christian can naturally be a heel and falls into the role so well... however, he WAS screwed so it's harder for the collective IWC and fas as a whole to not cheer for the guy. I mean, even Cole's nuclear heat couldn't get much of a heel reaction. Now, as opposed to R-Truth who got himself overr as a awesome heel and didn't have much fan support so yeah.

Lil' Jimmies

Maybe Christian should ask his buddy Edge how to be an awesome heel. :P

At 6/11/11 11:04 AM, Tetris wrote: The thing is with Christian's heel turn, since returning he's gained such a face status that he'll just have the be the worst person in the world. Like Jake Roberts heel, to get any kind of heat.

or cheap heat in every town

I hate the "your sports team sucks" shit.

At 6/11/11 11:04 AM, Tetris wrote: The thing is with Christian's heel turn, since returning he's gained such a face status that he'll just have the be the worst person in the world. Like Jake Roberts heel, to get any kind of heat.

or cheap heat in every town

Jake Roberts became a mega heel thanks to the feud with Taker.
Orton became a great heel thanks to the feud with Taker.
You guys see the pattern?

Give it time. Christian knows how to be a good heel and the nice thing about this turn is that he is completly believeable in his actions and mindset. I hope he is able to impress management enough to give him another shot at being champion.

The main event with Orton and Shemus was great. Good back and forth action with both guys looking strong.

I am personally glad that the Corre is officially over & done with; if they didn't know what to do with them as a unit, why bother? Only problem is, Slater & Gabriel don't have another set of Tag straps they can go after, or else risk a Nexus feud - which would be a tad awkward since the Nexus will probably remain a stable for a while yet, thus meaning they might get buried.....

Anyway, this SHOULD mean that Big Zeke will get the IC title at Capitol Punishment finally, and we can watch him DOOOOMIIIIIINAAAATE!

How wise is it for a PG show to allow Rhodes & DiBiase to bring up a certain congressman's dick photos?

I'm glad to see the Corre part, I feel sorry for Justin and Slater though who are probably going to fade away (love you Justin....*cough*). I love Wade and Zeke and hope they continue to grow.

At 6/12/11 09:58 PM, WooldoorSockbat wrote: I'm glad to see the Corre part, I feel sorry for Justin and Slater though who are probably going to fade away (love you Justin....*cough*). I love Wade and Zeke and hope they continue to grow.

I think they will, unfortunately I too see Slater and Gabriel just fading out unless somebody pushes for them (and considering how badly they've been used thus far, clearly no one is). It's a shame that there isn't more emphasis on teams, even if that emphasis was only "make teams and then lets see what and who we can get use out of when we split that team".

The way R-Truth said "Get your hands off me!" made me laugh. I'm really digging the way his character is being done. He is really brining his A-game with this.

Is it me or are all the heels losing tonight?

Decent Raw thus far. Nothing that has truly held my attention, but not crap either.

Hmm... That WCW dvd looks like it might be good. I'll need to read some reviews first though. The last WCW dvd they did got such poor reviews that I didn't go for it.