I think if they do an MITB at Mania, then Morrison is going to win that. If not, I'd love to see him shock everyone, win the Chamber, and then beat Miz at Mania (because they will want one babyface to walk out as champion at least I figure) into a nice long feud trading the belt.

I don't think we'll get that though. It's a less then 1% chance I think with all the holes WWE is going to have to fill in their "super bowl" that they are going to go with old reliable on top and getting the win. They really need to resist the temptation for the long term good, but with everything that's against them right now, that's what I fully believe we're going to get. On the plus side, I do see Morrison as a champion on one of the shows before the close of 2011.

At 2/8/11 12:00 AM, Tetris wrote:

At 2/7/11 11:23 PM, Fearmonger wrote: I'm more of a UFC fan, today's WWE is al faggy, I grew out of it when I was 12.

Then why post in the wrestling crew.

UFC is a kind of wrestling, right?

At 2/9/11 03:41 PM, Fearmonger wrote: UFC is a kind of wrestling, right?

Some guys are accomplished amateurs (Lesnar and Couture spring to mind), but there is many different martial arts styles coming into play (hence why it's called mixed martial arts) somebody who can only do one thing will find themselves beaten in a hurry in UFC. Also UFC is shoot fighting, wrestling is worked performance simulating an athletic competition.

At 2/10/11 12:51 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 2/9/11 03:41 PM, Fearmonger wrote: UFC is a kind of wrestling, right?

Some guys are accomplished amateurs (Lesnar and Couture spring to mind), but there is many different martial arts styles coming into play (hence why it's called mixed martial arts) somebody who can only do one thing will find themselves beaten in a hurry in UFC. Also UFC is shoot fighting, wrestling is worked performance simulating an athletic competition.

Although to be fair, some UFC fighters do "borrow" some things from wrestling. Mainly some of the over the top personas and interviews they use to hype a PPV.

And am I the only one who still doesn't think that Taker is coming back on 2-21-11? They used the Johnny Cash song they used to hype Taker v Shawn last year, but that just felt like a swerve. I mean, why would Taker return to RAW when the two main guys responsible for burying him (Barrett and Kane) are both on SD?

At 2/10/11 12:51 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 2/9/11 03:41 PM, Fearmonger wrote: UFC is a kind of wrestling, right?

Some guys are accomplished amateurs (Lesnar and Couture spring to mind), but there is many different martial arts styles coming into play (hence why it's called mixed martial arts) somebody who can only do one thing will find themselves beaten in a hurry in UFC. Also UFC is shoot fighting, wrestling is worked performance simulating an athletic competition.

I know, it depends on the fighter.

Also UFC is the closest to real brute violence you can find on TV. I'd rather agree to a fight with The Big Show then Chuck Liddell any day!

At 2/10/11 02:39 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Although to be fair, some UFC fighters do "borrow" some things from wrestling. Mainly some of the over the top personas and interviews they use to hype a PPV.

That's happened across the board for years though. Ali credits Gorgeous George with being the inspiration for his own persona and style of interviews.

And am I the only one who still doesn't think that Taker is coming back on 2-21-11? They used the Johnny Cash song they used to hype Taker v Shawn last year, but that just felt like a swerve. I mean, why would Taker return to RAW when the two main guys responsible for burying him (Barrett and Kane) are both on SD?

Could it be that Taker's WM opponent might actually be on RAW? I'm just saying...it's not like I might have heard something or anything...haha...excuse me *gets in a car and peels out*

I tried watching TNA, my thoughts:

It is written by either, a drunk Hulk Hogan or a team of monkeys, or both.

It takes itself wayyyyyy too seriousley.

RVD is still wrestling? Jesus.

Maybe this week was just dead, but I barely saw any good wrestling.

Divas that: Cant wrestle, sell, act. Also they look slutty.

Jeff Hardy let himself go but hey, atleast Matt got rid of those braids. I laughed when they mentioned drunks and panned the camera to Jeff.

I also find it ammusing that they allowed Eric Bishoff to assist in running another show since his work is mostly complete failure, and the Jeff Jarret/Angle fued is rediculuosley stupid.

Also, when did 3D tottaly suck? oh yeah, when they "broke up" and made "bully" Ray even more annoying. How fun. The only upside to this is that the PPV theyre having is going to be hilariouse.

On a bright note, ive always liked AJ Styles, Matt Morgan, Beer Money, and some of their other talents. And was that Stiener? or a mirage?

At 2/10/11 11:59 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

Could it be that Taker's WM opponent might actually be on RAW? I'm just saying...it's not like I might have heard something or anything...haha...excuse me *gets in a car and peels out*

Ugggh. There's only three guys on the RAW roster that I'd like to see face Taker at WM. Those are Cena, Punk and Daniel Bryan. For some reason, I don't think any of those three will challenge the Deadman at Mania.

And how bout that TNA?!? They book a match between Mr.Anderson and Matt Morgan with the winner facing Jeff Hardy at the next PPV... By the way, Jeff Hardy is NOT the TNA champ, Anderson is. Think about that for a moment.

TNA! TNA!

At 2/11/11 01:11 PM, WooldoorSockbat wrote: I tried watching TNA, my thoughts:

It is written by either, a drunk Hulk Hogan or a team of monkeys, or both.

Oh boy, dude, atleast you don't have to watch Against All Odds for a podcast.

also, TNA is booked by a bunch of people including Jeremy Borash, Jeff Jarrett and Vince "The Xenophobic Chauvinist" Russo. So yeah, not really a team of monkeys, because atleast monkey can write Shakespeare.

It takes itself wayyyyyy too seriousley.

ALWAYS SHOOTIN'

Another side effect of Bischoff/Hogan/Russo

RVD is still wrestling? Jesus.

Maybe this week was just dead, but I barely saw any good wrestling.

Divas that: Cant wrestle, sell, act. Also they look slutty.

They're called knockouts and one point, before the Russo it used to be good... then Russo came, wrote the division like a joke, many of there top draws left or were fired for retarded reasons and Russo, with his problems with woman made them all heels where the first 3 words you hear out of everyone of the knockouts is "Bitch, slut, whore" I hate this fucking man. Mickie James, Tara and Sarita are pretty much the best woman's wrestlers in TNA, there's also Rosita but she's new. and has a fake lesbian incest thing going on with Sarita.... I hate TNA's Knockouts Division. Vince Russo is obsessed with all the girls doing some form of lesbian gimmick. Only one who doesn't have that is Mickie James. There's also Daffney, but yeah her being used at all is slim to fucking never.

Jeff Hardy let himself go but hey, atleast Matt got rid of those braids. I laughed when they mentioned drunks and panned the camera to Jeff.

Jeff Hardy is a fucking moron. He's a waste of space and needs to go to jail. Matt Hardy is even worse. Grapes are a hell of a drug... Yeesh, Matt Hardy is fat.

I also find it ammusing that they allowed Eric Bishoff to assist in running another show since his work is mostly complete failure, and the Jeff Jarret/Angle fued is rediculuosley stupid.

Eric Bischoff has proved time and time again that he is a colossal man-child, incapable of running a business. He just sits back and doesn't pay attention to what's going on. He loved the stupid gritty realistic always shooting mentality Vince Russo and his demons are allowed to create. Seriously, Kurt needs to grab a 9 mm and shoot everyone who runs TNA.

Also, when did 3D tottaly suck? oh yeah, when they "broke up" and made "bully" Ray even more annoying. How fun. The only upside to this is that the PPV theyre having is going to be hilariouse.

The Dudley Boys, how the mightly have fallen. On the upside, they're pretty much the only former WWE employees who haven't tried to bury the WWE. Like Anderson, or Hardy, or whoever.

On a bright note, ive always liked AJ Styles, Matt Morgan, Beer Money, and some of their other talents. And was that Stiener? or a mirage?

I like the MotorCity Machine Guns the best. Also, pay attention to the selective memory of TNA. A few weeks ago it was about "WE NEED THE TITLES TO GET POWER" that has been thrown out of the fucking window. Also, yes it was Scott Stiener.

Damn server maintenance right when I'm trying to post........

Kelly Kelly's not in the intro anymore......

At 2/10/11 02:39 PM, pepeatumi wrote: And am I the only one who still doesn't think that Taker is coming back on 2-21-11? They used the Johnny Cash song they used to hype Taker v Shawn last year, but that just felt like a swerve. I mean, why would Taker return to RAW when the two main guys responsible for burying him (Barrett and Kane) are both on SD?

The promo is featured on both shows; no one can say which he'll be on, although he'll most likely be on SD to maim the two guys who beat him.

At 2/10/11 11:45 PM, Tetris wrote:

At 2/10/11 10:39 PM, Fearmonger wrote: Also UFC is the closest to real brute violence you can find on TV. I'd rather agree to a fight with The Big Show then Chuck Liddell any day!

Say that when Big Show sits on you.

Or lands a right cross on you. :P He really did have boxing training, y'know.

At 2/10/11 11:59 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Could it be that Taker's WM opponent might actually be on RAW? I'm just saying...it's not like I might have heard something or anything...haha...excuse me *gets in a car and peels out*

In other words, you're saying Lesnar's on RAW. Unless they've switched gears & decided on Sting for some reason, although I'd rather see Lesnar for this match.

At 2/11/11 06:35 PM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: also, TNA is booked by a bunch of people including Jeremy Borash, Jeff Jarrett and Vince "The Xenophobic Chauvinist" Russo.

So that's why Borash is always involved in the major plots for some reason..........

They're called knockouts and one point, before the Russo it used to be good... then Russo came, wrote the division like a joke, many of there top draws left or were fired for retarded reasons and Russo, with his problems with woman made them all heels where the first 3 words you hear out of everyone of the knockouts is "Bitch, slut, whore" I hate this fucking man. Mickie James, Tara and Sarita are pretty much the best woman's wrestlers in TNA, there's also Rosita but she's new. and has a fake lesbian incest thing going on with Sarita.... I hate TNA's Knockouts Division. Vince Russo is obsessed with all the girls doing some form of lesbian gimmick. Only one who doesn't have that is Mickie James. There's also Daffney, but yeah her being used at all is slim to fucking never.

Case in point, Gail Kim and (now) Awesome Kong were their top 2 Knockouts. Where are they now? DUH.

The Dudley Boys, how the mightly have fallen. On the upside, they're pretty much the only former WWE employees who haven't tried to bury the WWE. Like Anderson, or Hardy, or whoever.

They did say they wanted another WWE run, so it's a waiting game as to how long before they're fed up with this crap. The only reason why they're probably still there is their larger Tag division.

On a bright note, ive always liked AJ Styles, Matt Morgan, Beer Money, and some of their other talents.

I like the MotorCity Machine Guns the best.

Their talent (or most of it) isn't the problem, sadly. All these guys mentioned (as well as others) are proof of that.

At 2/11/11 01:11 PM, WooldoorSockbat wrote: It is written by either, a drunk Hulk Hogan or a team of monkeys, or both.

Mostly it seems to be Vince Russo...except for the stuff that's "bad" and that people don't like. Because Dixie assures us that isn't Russo (despite the fact that some of the stuff I've seen referenced as being unpalatable to people has his finger prints all over it and it's ideas he got told no on in WWE or WCW). Meanwhile we're never told WHO actually writes that stuff or why they haven't been fired

It takes itself wayyyyyy too seriousley.

Working shoots always draw money man...you just don't get it...*eye rollie* somebody want to remind them that it's 2011 and not 2000 or 1997 anymore? These ideas are tired and nobody really cares to see anybody's personal laundry that has nothing to do with wrestling on a wrestling show.

RVD is still wrestling? Jesus.

Dude ain't that old. He's definitely a "veteran asset" to TNA vs. some of the other selfish do nothing bastards they've brought in (Hi Kev!).

Maybe this week was just dead, but I barely saw any good wrestling.

That's how you know Vince Russo is running the show...with an assist from Eric Bischoff probably.

Divas that: Cant wrestle, sell, act. Also they look slutty.

I think we should all take up a collection...just name your price Mr. D'Amore, we'll pay it!!!

Jeff Hardy let himself go but hey, atleast Matt got rid of those braids. I laughed when they mentioned drunks and panned the camera to Jeff.

I'm still baffled as to why the company is built around these guys. Jeff always blows it because he is a fucking addict, that's undeniable right now. He's an addict who always gets bored and starts fucking off, he is almost certainly going to jail. As for Matt? Never had it, never will. When he's motivated he's a good worker who can make other guys and has a devoted following. But every time he's been given the ball to break out, he drops it. Screw the Hardys, those boys are done.

I also find it ammusing that they allowed Eric Bishoff to assist in running another show since his work is mostly complete failure, and the Jeff Jarret/Angle fued is rediculuosley stupid.

I guess Bischoff really knows how to talk to/con millionares. He has SOME ideas, from a production standpoint. Creatively? Fuck no. All he knows is "build the show around me, and let me do whatever I want". He's a cancer, drop him.

Also, when did 3D tottaly suck? oh yeah, when they "broke up" and made "bully" Ray even more annoying. How fun. The only upside to this is that the PPV theyre having is going to be hilariouse.

For all the wrong reasons it will be.

On a bright note, ive always liked AJ Styles, Matt Morgan, Beer Money, and some of their other talents. And was that Stiener? or a mirage?

Which is the problem with TNA. They have this young talent that they need to establish and get over and push over these older veterans that Spike and other talents want to bring in. Right now this company looks a hell of a lot like WCW as it died, and that's not the road I imagine the Carters want to go down. Steal a page from the McMahons, realize your future is now and push those young guys and get your veterans to help develop that talent so you can move forward and be successful. It's not rocket science.

At 2/11/11 08:13 PM, Swackman wrote: In other words, you're saying Lesnar's on RAW. Unless they've switched gears & decided on Sting for some reason, although I'd rather see Lesnar for this match.

It won't be Lesnar or Sting. From what I've seen they have something else in mind now. Avie and I probably saw a similar report on who Taker is most likely to have a match with. If the report is correct it should be a great bout.

SD was good last night. The main event with Edge vs. Ziggler was great. Good action and a nice way to end it for the Green Bay crowd.

Kofi vs. ADR was a damn good bout as well. I liked that Kofi came out and destroyed all the stuff in the ring and gave some payback shots with the kendo stick to ADR.

Either Booker was nervious or he didn't have a clue because he was all over the damn place with his commentary. I'm sure he needs practice and all but I'm glad he isn't doing that rapid fire commentary he did right before he left WWE. Anyone remember that? It was brutal to listen to.

I wonder if Cody will somehow cost Rey a shot at the title in the near future for revenge? They have kept the idea that it was Rey's fualt going for a while so I expect something to happen when he gets back.

At 2/12/11 12:25 AM, MudkipsPiano wrote: I love Kane by the way, he is the fucking MAN. He's one of those guys that's supposed to be against EVERYONE. And he's awesome. I want Kane to win the Elimination Chamber so much.

Did you not see last title reign? It was painful. Do not want him to win the elimination chamber.
Rey Mysterio for the win. Forget his feud with Cody, its lame.
Also, Booker T did not get any better on commentary this week. Cole was also fairly unbearable.

Booker T doesn't even know what show he is on, maybe he's playing up an "old wrestler with amnesia" angle. Then gain, him combined with Cole pretty much make you want to mute your television. It's ashame since this could have been quite fun.

The Edge vs Ziggler match was stupid, funny but stupid. I was just waiting for something rediculous to happen and it did. I personally wanted Vince to come down and tell Vickie off.

I'm personally a big fan of Cody Rhodes, hopefully they do something big for him when he returns. I'm afraid of what stupid gimmick theylle do with his face though.

I like ADR, though I was able to mouth along with everything he said moments before he said it. I would complain about him being repetitive but I like him too much and he does it so well.

Whereas most of you seem to like how the Edge/Ziggler match went, I agree with Wooldoor on this one; it was just dumb the way it was done. I know they were in Green Bay and all, but it was still dumb. Vickie attempting the Spear was amusing, though - but nowhere near as good as when Kelly did it.

In speaking of that, the situation with Drew didn't play out as I'd hoped, as he's blaming Edge for some reason. I suspect, though, that eventually, Drew will come to his senses somehow (maybe Kelly will talk him down?) & turn on Vickie.

Sadly, Booker isn't getting better as I'd hoped. He's tolerable, but anyone is tolerable compared to Cole at this point. I suspect we'll get Striker back soon. Sorry, Book, but this isn't your thing.

At 2/12/11 09:37 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: It won't be Lesnar or Sting. From what I've seen they have something else in mind now. Avie and I probably saw a similar report on who Taker is most likely to have a match with. If the report is correct it should be a great bout.

My problem though is there's virtually no build here. Sure they've got some back story they can easily throw in and dress it up and all. But I tell you, I hate the stip, I think it could hurt them long term and it's a stip that would be best applied somewhere else to get more heat on someone else. Still and all, yeah, it would be a very good bout I think.

SD was good last night. The main event with Edge vs. Ziggler was great. Good action and a nice way to end it for the Green Bay crowd.

I liked the match from a work standpoint, but I'm over Vicki's involvement, I just don't see what Dolph is really getting from it and I think it's killing off any juice he's getting from working with Edge. These guys have good matches that I think could be great without the story lines basically being about Vicki.

Kofi vs. ADR was a damn good bout as well. I liked that Kofi came out and destroyed all the stuff in the ring and gave some payback shots with the kendo stick to ADR.

I liked this too, and it can be a nice holding pattern situation for ADR while he waits for the Mania build to the Edge bout to start.

Either Booker was nervious or he didn't have a clue because he was all over the damn place with his commentary. I'm sure he needs practice and all but I'm glad he isn't doing that rapid fire commentary he did right before he left WWE. Anyone remember that? It was brutal to listen to.

Yeah, I think Booker is still kind of adjusting and trying to find his sea legs within the booth at this point. Maybe they should have waited and put him on Superstars for a month or so till he found his voice, but I guess we'll just have to sit through his growing pains here.

I wonder if Cody will somehow cost Rey a shot at the title in the near future for revenge? They have kept the idea that it was Rey's fualt going for a while so I expect something to happen when he gets back.

Oh, I absolutely imagine we're building to something like that. I'm honestly curious as to why Cody is being held out, because I have truly heard nothing of nothing here which is strange.

At 2/13/11 12:54 AM, Tetris wrote: I remember reading something about Cody making some offensive remarks about Mexican people before a match with Chavo at a house show, and that's the reason they're burying him.

Not entirely sure how true that is, though.

I wouldn't say Cody's getting buried. Mysterio handpicked Rhodes for a feud that's most likely going to WM and then some. If anything I'd say this is a push for Cody Rhodes, and he deserves it.. he should of had a push like this months ago.

At 2/13/11 12:24 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: My problem though is there's virtually no build here. Sure they've got some back story they can easily throw in and dress it up and all. But I tell you, I hate the stip, I think it could hurt them long term and it's a stip that would be best applied somewhere else to get more heat on someone else. Still and all, yeah, it would be a very good bout I think.

Damn! Its probably the same match I've been hearing about. If that's the case, then I agree with the stip hurting them in the long run, though part of me thinks it could be blessing a disguise since it mean that WWE would have to continue with their current "youth movement". Still, I don't have high hopes for the actual match (Though I'm sure WWE will make it seem like an epic match-up).

At 2/13/11 11:07 AM, pepeatumi wrote: Still, I don't have high hopes for the actual match (Though I'm sure WWE will make it seem like an epic match-up).

I dunno, regardless of Taker's condition, I think he will always go above and beyond what he realistically should be doing at this stage of his career to put on a great bout, and his potential opponent can definitely go when he needs to.
And have you heard who else might be involved? Should be an interesting match even if it isn't a classic.

At 2/13/11 12:33 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: And have you heard who else might be involved? Should be an interesting match even if it isn't a classic.

Special ref (think for 2 seconds and you'll probably figure out who). Probably a shit load of other bells and whistles too. Like I say, I do not doubt the quality, but it to me probably reinforces that idea of "these guys are here...the rest of you are somewhere well below that"

So now Vickie's trying to frame Edge for the assault on Teddy. $20 says either Vickie or Dolph actually did it just so she could take over, and most likely Edge will be the one to reveal it. Probably all in the same night.

My thoughts go out to Lawler & his family.

At 2/14/11 10:59 PM, Tetris wrote: IF YA SMEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL...

WHAT THE ONLY MAN TO SHUT MICHAEL COLE'S CANDY ASS UP & MAKE HIM CRY LIKE A 12-YEAR-OLD JUSTIN BIEBER FAN..................IS.................
..COOKIN'!?

At 2/14/11 10:59 PM, Tetris wrote: IF YA SMEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL...

WHAT THE ROCK....IS COOKIN'!

Damn I've missed The Rock. When his music hit I was instantly pumped and excited. Hearing him talk like that again just made me smile. I noticed they tried to bleep him once but then he kept saying things like "ass" and "sumbitch" with out additional bleeping. I wonder if he's goin got get in any kind of trouble for that. I sure as hell hope not.

What was interesting was his take on Cena. Will this lead to anything? I'm sure he's not coming back to wrestle but they have from now till Mania to get tension between them. I can't wait.

Miz vs. Bryan was awesome. Nuff said really.

There's only one word I can say about tonights events on RAW... FINALLY!

The Rock, stepping in a WWE ring for the first time in over 5 years.. I knew that Rocky was heavily predicted to be the guest host of WM, but when his music started playing.. I simply marked the fuck out!
I'm glad they gave him like 20 mins of air time.. simply put, he's the best talker in WWE history..
He said his catch phrases, he said ass and bitch so many times I lost count, he slaughtered Michael Cole on the mic AND he picked up on his personal rivalry with John Cena.

Folks, tonight I think we just witnessed every wrestling fan's wet dream...

I just saw Against All Odds...

Fuck this company. Worst pay-per-view of the year. How the fuck do you out do Genesis? TNA FOUND A WAY!

I think I had forgotten truly how good Rock was on promos because what I just heard was the best promo since I picked up watching wrestling again. I felt like I was 12 years old again watching him speak and not only that, but he also verbally bitch slaps Cole, and is picking a bone with Cena and the PG era. Goddamn it, welcome back Rock.

I also laughed when they showed the little Asian Cena fans giving a thumbs down to him. Sit down kids, and maybe soon you'll realize who the true Peoples Champ is!

Cena you look like a bowl of fruity pebbles.

So yeah Dwayne fucking Johnson saved RAW yesterday, considering the only other highlight was the Miz/Bryan match (Which Bryan carried all the way through). And William Regal made that silly kiss cam worth it. Not much else to talk about.

Yeah, I marked out like a little boy when his music started to play. He was my childhood favorite, and it is nice to have one of the best parts of the Attitude era back. Shame he probably won't wrestle, but someone is going to get the people's elbow. You can just tell. I'm surprised he didn't call Cole a hermaphrodite like in the good ol' days.

I actually enjoyed most of the matches last night. The tag match felt rushed, but Morrison pulled off furious really well. Punk and Cena wasn't bad either, but yeah Miz/Bryan was probably the best match of the night with out comparison.

Everything I'd say about Dwayne's return last night has already been covered by you guys. The "CENA SUCKS!!!" chanters managed to drown out everyone else in the audience for once.

Like I said last post, Cole literally looked about to cry like a little girl after that FUCKING AWESOME verbal assault.

Damn, Morrison can really pull off "really, really fucking pissed" well, can't he? Has he been taking lessons from Orton?

As said, Bryan sold that match incredibly well. As did, for once, Miz, proving he DOES know how to wrestle & doesn't need outside help to win a match.

lol fruity pebbles....

At 2/15/11 08:43 PM, Swackman wrote: Damn, Morrison can really pull off "really, really fucking pissed" well, can't he? Has he been taking lessons from Orton?

I liked that, ive been pulling for Morrison to win big for a while. I would be very happy to see him win the Elimination Chamber. (Also he has a sexy angry face)

As said, Bryan sold that match incredibly well. As did, for once, Miz, proving he DOES know how to wrestle & doesn't need outside help to win a match.

Bryan sold the match well but the finish seemed delayed, he just stood there.