At 12/6/09 11:45 PM, Assi9 wrote: I'm glad McIntyre's proving himself in the ring; if he's going to get a push like he has, he needs to be worth said push. That match with Morrison was a very good start.

I was the first one to believe he had potential.

Is it just me (and probably Maraquan), or were some of those moments between Punk & Gallows rather creepy? I swear, I saw Punk kiss Gallows' bald head......... o_O

*shudder* I know. I think he's not so gay for GI Joe characters anymore, if you know what I mean.

DAMN.......Taker's been getting pwned...... >_< *gets shot by avie*

Shut. Up.

At 12/4/09 06:50 PM, Random-Her03 wrote: BREAKING NEWS
Umaga is dead, he passed away after suffering a heart attack
he was 36

*sigh* And I never got to see the big guy wrestle. *sigh* RIP, Bulldozer.

At 12/4/09 07:10 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote:

Please, WWE, don't overdo this if you plan on having Punk make a comment on this, I BEG YOU.

I BEG YOU. I BEG YOU I BEG YOU. IBEGYOUIBEGYOUIBEGYOUIBEGYOUIBEGYOUIBEGY OUIBEGYOU.

At 12/6/09 01:32 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 12/5/09 11:57 AM, Outlaw88 wrote:

Where is Jesse/Slam Master J, anyway? He's vanished...

*ghostly moan supernatural sound thingy*

At 12/7/09 01:07 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: I really hope this leads to Punk forming some kind of stable with one or two more underused talents he can "convert" to his cause. Punk works very well in that sort of a role much like Raven did in ECW, and when it ultimately breaks up it can give the guys a good foil to turn babyface on. Can't be worse then Legacy....

Yeah, I do too, it would be nice to see Punk as a face, but...PUNK KISSED FESTUS' HEAD. AND HE HUGGED WILLIAM REGAL. *childish whine*

It's just logical. If Taker is built in these situations as an unstoppable monster then where is the need to buy it? If Taker was the heel champion it would make sense...but he's the face. I'm supposed to feel like Batista or any challenger has a chance at beating him, so I got no issue with the booking so far. I will have an issue if it's Batista who takes the belt though...I'd rather see Taker dropping it at the Rumble or No Way Out to somebody like Punk or another guy who needs the belt to "break through". I've heard some rumblings of what the Taker Mania plan is...and it excites me, but I think it's a waste of a title match if you give Taker the opponent they're thinking of giving him. That will draw all by itself.

Taker HAS to either keep the belt until 'Mania, or he has to somehow get it back before 'Mania. I want to see his streak live on!!!!

I see no reason for Punk to comment on this because a) can't prove it's drug related just yet and b) it'd be absolutely classless. With Jeff you could make the point that they invested in him and he potentially burned them and the best thing they could do was condemn him at the time and move away from him. The Eddie Fatu situation doesn't compare and I would be personally very upset with all involved if anything is mentioned beyond a nice little tribute.

Well, when/if they find out it's drug related, Punk just might comment on it. I mean, he's utterly classless. He kisses bald men. "With Jeff you could make the point that they invested in him and he potentially burned them and the best thing they could do was condemn him at the time and move away from him." *ahem* I'm right here you know. And, I don't think Umaga's been around long enough or was loved by the WWE Universe enough to get a Captain Lou or Eddie Guerrero tribute.

So, where's Good 'Ol JR? I miss him. Is he still in his cowboy pajamas, eating ice cream or...<:( Please don't tell me it's the "or".

At 12/7/09 06:48 AM, MaraquanWocky wrote: Well, when/if they find out it's drug related, Punk just might comment on it. I mean, he's utterly classless. He kisses bald men. "With Jeff you could make the point that they invested in him and he potentially burned them and the best thing they could do was condemn him at the time and move away from him." *ahem* I'm right here you know. And, I don't think Umaga's been around long enough or was loved by the WWE Universe enough to get a Captain Lou or Eddie Guerrero tribute.

His character may be classless, but Umaga's last matches were, ironically, with Punk, and I wouldn't THINK he'd push it too far if he did say something.

And Umaga's been around long enough to where I'm certain he'll get some sort of a tribute; I'd be shocked if he didn't.

So, where's Good 'Ol JR? I miss him. Is he still in his cowboy pajamas, eating ice cream or...<:( Please don't tell me it's the "or".

Yeah, I miss JR.........Stryker's beginning to irritate me. He's like a 'JBL Lite'.

McIntyre is good, really good.
Hopefully he will take the push and run with it where ziggles dropped the ball.

The future of the WWE is really starting to take shape.

At 12/7/09 08:42 AM, Assi9 wrote: His character may be classless, but Umaga's last matches were, ironically, with Punk, and I wouldn't THINK he'd push it too far if he did say something.

What, did Punk pull a Randy Orton and start "respecting" Umaga? But, um...Punk just might push it a LITTLE bit too far. Just a little. On the topic of Punk and drugs(hey, that's kind of catchy), did Punk make a big deal about how Eddie died? ... <:'(

And Umaga's been around long enough to where I'm certain he'll get some sort of a tribute; I'd be shocked if he didn't.

Oh wow, 1995. Almost as long as Jeff's run. :(

Yeah, I miss JR.........Stryker's beginning to irritate me. He's like a 'JBL Lite'.

I miss the guy in cowboy pajamas who was last seen eating ice cream and watching RAW. <:)

At 12/7/09 06:43 PM, MaraquanWocky wrote: On the topic of Punk and drugs(hey, that's kind of catchy), did Punk make a big deal about how Eddie died? ... <:'(

Luckily, no. If he did, about 80% of the WWE roster would kick his ass IN REAL LIFE.

And Umaga's been around long enough to where I'm certain he'll get some sort of a tribute; I'd be shocked if he didn't.

Oh wow, 1995. Almost as long as Jeff's run. :(

Didn't realize he was there for that long.

Raw wasn't too bad last night. The matches seemed short to me, but since this is the week of the PPV that doesn't suprise me.

I think that dude who hosted was pretty comfortable on the mic. He and Orton had some great moments and it was fun to see the fast count being used.

Miz and Henry had a decent match, but again it was just too short for it to really be great. I did enjoy the Jericho/DX bit and the beatdown that followed.

Is Masters..Getting over with that flexing thing?

I hope they finally decided to not do the little peoples court. I had heard it was going to be this week but it never happened. Let's just hope it stays that way.

Just watched a snippet of RAW
was anybody else surprised that masters got a pretty big pop when he confronted chavo? i sure as hell was!

At 12/7/09 06:43 PM, MaraquanWocky wrote: What, did Punk pull a Randy Orton and start "respecting" Umaga? But, um...Punk just might push it a LITTLE bit too far. Just a little. On the topic of Punk and drugs(hey, that's kind of catchy), did Punk make a big deal about how Eddie died? ... <:'(

Punk wasn't on the main roster then, he debuted in June of 2006 for ECW as a babyface and was a face up until this year. Plus Eddie is the guy that really pushed for Punk to get into WWE to begin with. I don't see Punk commenting on Umaga because everything WWE has done of late has been very damage control like where they are making it clear they fired Umaga for failing wellness and that when and if the autopsy comes back drug related they have zero responsibility or liability here. I can't blame them for that.

Far as Jeff though? I stand by what I said, plus, I think everybody realizes unless Jeff goes to jail for so long that he physically would not be able to wrestle anymore, he'll be back. So WWE has been smart to have Punk bury this guy because it gives WWE an ability to say "no, we are publicly condemning his actions" but they're also building up a storyline for when Jeff does come back.

Oh wow, 1995. Almost as long as Jeff's run. :(

On and off kind of thing though...wait, I think you're looking up the wrong Fatu here...

I miss the guy in cowboy pajamas who was last seen eating ice cream and watching RAW. <:)

JR had a bout of bell's palsy hit him yet again, he's doing pretty well all things considered and is working his way back.

At 12/8/09 03:32 AM, Assi9 wrote: Luckily, no. If he did, about 80% of the WWE roster would kick his ass IN REAL LIFE.

Teehee.

Didn't realize he was there for that long.

LOOOONG time. A very long time.

At 12/8/09 10:58 AM, Random-Her03 wrote: Just watched a snippet of RAW
was anybody else surprised that masters got a pretty big pop when he confronted chavo? i sure as hell was!

Really didn't expect masters to be a face at all, it would be hilarious if this dancing boob gimmick leads to the biggest push of his career.

From wrestlezone.com:
ProWrestling.net is reporting that WWE star Charlie Haas asked for his release from WWE several months ago. However, as opposed to granting that release, WWE actually re-signed Haas and gave him a raise, even though he hasn't been used on TV in a long while. The belief is that Kurt Angle had something in mind for Charlie Haas in TNA, and WWE wanted to avoid having him jump ship to the competition, so they re-signed him, gave him a raise, and are basically "benching him."

Well.. You don't hear that every day huh?

The Wrestling Observer is reporting that prior to Booker T leaving TNA, there had been discussions between him and WWE concerning a possible return to the company when his contract with TNA was up. However, it's now being said that all negotiations between Booker T and WWE are pretty much dead at this point.

Thats a shame. I liked Booker T.

Here is something from Good Ol' JR:

Jim Ross has updated his blog over at JRsBarBQ.com. Below are some highlights:

"Concussions are a big issue in sports today and let's not forget that pro wrestling/sports entertainment or whatever in the hell one wants to call it doesn't have the franchise on this dilemma. However, chair shots to the skull should be forbidden in wrestling. Period. End of story. Bottom line."

"Eddie Fatu's funeral services are later in the week in Las Vegas. If you want to send flowers or cards you can call the Davis Funeral Home at 702-736-6200."

"I do encourage all wrestling organizations to instill as stringent a testing program as is possible for concussions, heart issues, etc and to monitor how many days an individual is booked either monthly or annually. Plus, establishing a zero tolerance policy regarding drug abuse is a gimme. Being in the wrestling business should be a privilege not one's right. If one accepts the glory and money one can earn as a successful wrestler in a major company then they should have no issue being a good citizen and living a clean life."

I'd go with this. I could live without chair shots to the head if it means its safer for the workers.

At 12/9/09 12:51 PM, Shaun wrote: Really didn't expect masters to be a face at all, it would be hilarious if this dancing boob gimmick leads to the biggest push of his career.

I highly doubt it.. This kinda reminds me of the whole Santina Marella storyline.. sure, it got shits and giggles for about a month or so, but then people grew very tired of it.. so much that even WWE caught on to and adruptly ended the storyline..

At 12/10/09 12:10 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: From wrestlezone.com:
ProWrestling.net is reporting that WWE star Charlie Haas asked for his release from WWE several months ago. However, as opposed to granting that release, WWE actually re-signed Haas and gave him a raise, even though he hasn't been used on TV in a long while. The belief is that Kurt Angle had something in mind for Charlie Haas in TNA, and WWE wanted to avoid having him jump ship to the competition, so they re-signed him, gave him a raise, and are basically "benching him."

Well.. You don't hear that every day huh?

Interesting.. i thought it might of been something to do with Umaga's death.. apparently the 2 were pretty close, I remember years back hearing that they both opened a fitness store together

The Wrestling Observer is reporting that prior to Booker T leaving TNA, there had been discussions between him and WWE concerning a possible return to the company when his contract with TNA was up. However, it's now being said that all negotiations between Booker T and WWE are pretty much dead at this point.

Thats a shame. I liked Booker T.

Meh.. he never really wowed me.. he's passed his prime and that king gimmick was really stupid.. I have a feeling he'd return to that gimmick if he came back.

At 12/10/09 12:10 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I'd go with this. I could live without chair shots to the head if it means its safer for the workers.

I agree. ECW is over and done with, it's time to retire most of the extreme gimmicks and over the top violence and save it for when it actually matters. Chair shots shouldn't be the only way you can draw anyway. Still, wrestling is a very physical game and the science involved with concussion study is still emerging, so I understand WWE's skepticism, and defensive stance when it comes to the whole situation. Still, they can absolutely take steps to try and minimize trauma to the head.

I missed all of SD last night. A friend of mine is getting married on Sunday and we had a bachelor party last night. I'll also be missing all of next week's shows since I'm graduating from college on monday and on Friday I'm moving to a new place. So yeah I'll be out of the loop for a little bit.

So...What happened on SD? Did Taker get some payback?

At 12/12/09 12:42 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I missed all of SD last night. A friend of mine is getting married on Sunday

Awww.
and we had a bachelor party last night.
Oh.
I'll also be missing all of next week's shows since I'm graduating from college on monday and on Friday I'm moving to a new place. So yeah I'll be out of the loop for a little bit.
Well, more creepiness between Festus and Punk. Punk got a mic shot to the head(sound familiar?), and basically Festus kissed his boo-boo.

God Punk, did Lita get too boring for you?!
So...What happened on SD? Did Taker get some payback?

Yeah, a little.I wouldn't exactly call it payback, but...you know.

PWInsider.com is reporting that Bobby "The Brain" Heenan has been hospitalized due to an infection he has received in his surgically rebuilt jaw. Heenan was taken to The H. Lee Moffitt Center in Tampa Bay, FL

I hope he has a speedy recovery.

So the slammy's are tomorrow...Anyone know who is nominated or what?

Ah yes, the PPV is tonight as well. I'm thinking DX is going to win the tag titles. Which is a bit of a shame since Jericho is such a strong character on Raw.

I also think Benjamin is going to beat Christian for the ECW title. That should be a good match if given the right amount of time since both guys are good at ladder matches.

I haven't watched the last two RAWs yet.............I know, I know. I did see what SHeamus did to last week's host; it looks like he's being built up to be the next Randy Orton - which is good for when Orton decides to retire. (I doubt it'll be for a while, considering he's a bit younger than most of the other veteran superstars, but it's good to know there's someone you potentially pass the torch to available.)

At 12/12/09 12:42 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: So...What happened on SD? Did Taker get some payback?

Yes. :P

McIntyre whined again about not being on that magazine cover, then made some Braveheart reference..........only for Jon Morrison to come out dressed up as that guy from the movie (forget the name), and proceeds to do a better fake Scottish accent than McIntyre. :P

Escobar WAS doing good against Jericho, up until Vickie makes it a Handicap match with JeriShow instead................same bullshit, different night.

Punk & Gallows bash the Jeff Hardy DVD some more, then Matt Hardy & R-Truth come out with a "sack full of magic" (I THINK that's what R-Truth said) filled with said DVD for the audience, Punk bitching about it all the while - up until R-Truth cracks him in the head with his mic. :P But Gallows still wins.

DX cuts another shameless plug for merchandise; Hornswaggle steals Shawn's hat again & wrecks their Christmas tree.

The Street Fight wasn't as much of a street fight as most previous ones have been (no brawling out in the parking lot, or anything), but it was solid enough. Rey got in a few good whacks, but he still lost again. Batista was going to go off the top rope after sticking Rey's neck in a chair, but Taker cut it short.

Some quick thoughts coming out of TLC:

-Hopefully DX plans to at least occasionally work Tuesdays since this is an utter waste of the tag belts that DX kept saying are meaningless are now stuck exclusively on RAW. I do think DX can add some intrigue and ratings to SD!, but obviously it's all contingent on them wanting to work that show...which really kind of pisses me off.

-Kofi got Ortoned, pure and simple. He absolutely should have won this bout and WWE totally blew it by not having him do so. They had to stop this crap of bringing a guy to the pinnacle and then having him bang his head off the glass ceiling, especially when you consider the other two matches in which young stars were used.

-Drew is IC champ, good for him, I think Morrison has gotten all he can from that belt and this frees him up to compete for the world title, or to be placed in MITB at Mania and allowed to win it. I also thought they did a good job with bringing Vince into the segment and him saying "don't talk to me, talk to Drew" which instantly made him and his victory seem that much more important.

-Glad Batista didn't get the belt. He's been doing good work as a heel, but is far too injury prone to me to be given the belt at this crucial time of year. While I do believe the belt is going to, and should come off Taker before Mania, I don't think there's any harm in letting him have it till the Rumble, or maybe into No Way Out. I do think when the belt comes off though it should be given a more "Straight Edge" kind of flavor if you catch my meaning.

-Shaemus won huh? Again, this points out a very crappy trend in WWE. Shaemus wins cause he hangs with H, but Kofi Kingston doesn't because God forbid he go over Orton. I'm not saying Shaemus winning is a disaster, it isn't. The guy could be a good monster champ, as long as they give him time and really push him (and resist the urge to make him a 24 hour champ or some such nonsense), but it's just ridiculous to me they're willing to pull the trigger on him, and McIntyre, but not Kofi. I just don't understand WWE. I just don't.

Shaemus won?! Holy crap! I never saw that coming. Maybe thats why WWE did it. Everyone said Cena would win so they decided to throw a curve. Maybe Cena will win it back tonight on Raw.

So DX are the new tag champs...Yeah I just hope Hornswaggle doesn't follow them with a foam belt or something. I'm going to miss jericho on Raw...

I think Morrison is a good candidate to win MITB this year. I sure hope this give him the option to do so.

How could they have Kofi lose? He was on such a roll too. I hope they do something to make up for this. Also, now that Cena isn't champ Orton can go right back into the title hunt. You just know he will be right on that.

Won't Jericho stay on Raw as long as he has a rematch clause? Every champion seems to have one, and they could keep him around as long as he has it.

I hope he stays around. This is my first week back at home after uni, so I can actually watch wrestling again. It would suck if Jericho was gone from Raw now, and if they stop pushing Kofi. And Sheamus will probably get squashed by Cena tonight.

Well, that pretty much proves my theory now - BOTH Sheamus AND McIntyre have titles, yet Kofi lost................. While I'm glad that two new guys have titles for a change (a VERY rare occurrence that just drives the point home), it makes the WWE higher-ups look bad when they also have another newer guy who they're SUPPOSED to be pushing through the roof lose a match on the same night.

DX actually got hte belts......one tiny part of me is surprised, but then I remember how unstable JeriShow is. Good, as this leaves Jericho open for a feud with Edge when he returns. However, this leaves Show up Shit Creek without a paddle again......guess it's back to the ol' "SHOW SMASH MIDCARD!!!!" crap. >.<

So CM Punk walks into a bar... A minute later, he jobs >_>

But seriously.

I've kept myself quite these last couple of months, thinking to myself that there's something planned for Punk, he's just treading water with R-Truth for a couple of months. However, after tonight.... THAT WAS JUST BULLSHIT! Less than a month ago, it takes a top rope AA for him to lose to Cena, this time around, he jobs to him in about a minute and a half.\

Who in the HELL did Punk piss off? A guy with unlimited potential, who is becoming (If he hasn't already become) the top heel not just on SD, but in the entire WWE, and he's treated like a flat-out jobber? HOW IN THE HELL DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?!?

At 12/14/09 09:31 PM, pepeatumi wrote: HOW IN THE HELL DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?!?

It makes no sense, it's total bullshit. What does it say about your awards for Superstar of the Year if one of your contenders is losing in just over a minute? It's a mockery. Quite honestly, unless each of your nominees for the award is having a classic match with the others, then why should we believe they deserve to be nominated for Superstar of the Year?

It is bullshit, but I know exactly why it was done though, because it's all about building up superman Cena's "heroic journey" to try and win the belt back from Shaemus. Here's the problem with that WWE, half your audience hates the guy, so this storyline is NOT going to work out too well for you.

After reading the recap, glad I once again missed RAW as it really looked to me like they weren't even trying with this show. It's pretty bad when even the three hour shows are allowed to be wheel spinning dreck. But at least CM Punk is the first two time slammy award winner since the late Owen Hart (ok yes, Owen stole that second one...but possession is 9/10's dammit!!!)

At 12/14/09 09:31 PM, pepeatumi wrote: So CM Punk walks into a bar... A minute later, he jobs >_>

But seriously.

I've kept myself quite these last couple of months, thinking to myself that there's something planned for Punk, he's just treading water with R-Truth for a couple of months. However, after tonight.... THAT WAS JUST BULLSHIT! Less than a month ago, it takes a top rope AA for him to lose to Cena, this time around, he jobs to him in about a minute and a half.\

Who in the HELL did Punk piss off? A guy with unlimited potential, who is becoming (If he hasn't already become) the top heel not just on SD, but in the entire WWE, and he's treated like a flat-out jobber? HOW IN THE HELL DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?!?

Glad to see you back pepeatumi. You're right. CM Punk going from 3 time World Heavyweight Champion to flat-out jobber doesn't make any sense at all.

Can you please reply to the unread PMs that I sent you? I keep getting that "Error - The recipient (pepeatumi) has the maximum number of unread messages from you." message whenever I try to send you a pm.

The other thing that's funny about this is I could still see them getting the belt onto Punk sooner rather then later, because they figure him losing to Cena is no big deal since they probably view it as losing to Triple H or something. But that right there is the problem, even though Punk has been WHC, even though he's beaten guys like Edge and Hardy, they still need to keep guys like H and Cena on a level even above Punk.

Also can we please stop acting like being "x number of times champion" actually matters in WWE at this point? The top belts change way too much these days for it to be in any way impressive. Punk is a 3 time champion in the span of 2 years...his total title reigns probably only combine to about 3 or 4 months. I'm not bashing Punk because shit like that is totally on creative, but I'm just saying, these are not quality reigns. I say the same about Edge being second only to H, it SOUNDS impressive, but then you realize his 9 reigns are littered with some reigns only being a couple of weeks or so (like his first). The only way for statistics like that to be impressive anymore is to look at it as a measurement of trying to figure out how much the company believes in a particular guy.

Raw kinda sucked, in my opinion. The audience seemed insanely dead most of the time, especially when Dennis Miller tried to make jokes. And as much as I mark out for DX, the "tag title rematch" thing was pretty lame to me...I'd have loved one last Jericho match on Raw before having the whole kick-his-ass-out thing...

The low point of the already-low show was when Cena declared that he'd lose EVEN LESS. :-(

I think the main problem WWE has in their booking of Cena is that they are in a constant state of protection mode. His title loss is a subject of debate and when facing an opponent like Punk, Cena never loses. Thing is, Cena is an established character. The fans know, whether they like him or not, that he is a person to contend with. They don't need to protect him to this degree anymore! If you are trying to establish someone new, let them have a decisive win. If you have two former world champions face off, give them an equal shot, don't make it seem like one has no chance against the other. Thats my biggest problem here. It isn't the fact that Punk lost, its the fact that they make it so anyone going up against Cena has zero chance of victory.

When Cena said, "I will not lose a match until I get the belt back", did anyone doubt him? I think there's every chance that Cena will destroy all competition until he gets another match with Sheamus, at which time he will squash him too.

I don't see why they feel that they need to build Cena back up after one loss. I see that losing to lowly old Sheamus must be terribly embarrassing for Super Cena, but it just makes Sheamus not look like a real contender if people say how embarrassing it must be for someone so amazingly brilliant to lose to shitty old Sheamus.

The announcers were making it seem like Cena was humiliated because he was beat by someone of a much lower quality than himself. THAT'S FUCKING STUPID. The point of giving Sheamus the belt, I assume, is to give the fans new people who they believe can be in the top tier of professional wrestling.

I'm really hoping that this Cena storyline is designed to get Sheamus over. If they have Cena beat all comers until he gets his rematch, but then have Sheamus cleanly beat Cena in their second meeting, then I guess it would make this storyline worth it. I just don't like the way they're portraying Sheamus after his win.

Raw is way better than Smackdown,they are all pussys and Raw know how to get it done with superstars like Big show,Triple H,Randy Orton and lots of other awesome peeps.