At 3/10/09 12:09 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I'm looking forward to ECW tonight so I can see who will win that battle royal. I know a spoiler was posted but I'm ignoring it. Thank you for the warning.

Tonight will be the first time that I actually watch ECW as a whole program. I'm personally excited about the battle royal because it is Tri-branded and has many different superstars, with more than a few with an actual legitimate chance of winning.

At 3/10/09 11:20 AM, Shaun wrote: Funniest possible WM scenario:

Not for what Mania costs is it funny to do the NWO thing again, fun for the PPV they did it on, but to repeat yourself from the very last PPV just makes you look like utter fail. I'd like to see them defy expectation though and keep the belt on Edge, but if they plan to flip it to Orton (which would really be the only way to save his push and what not at this point) I can't see them going that route. One heel could probably win, but not 2. Unless again they really are looking to defy the expectations here.

At 3/10/09 09:08 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: One heel could probably win, but not 2. Unless again they really are looking to defy the expectations here.

I think it's very plausible that Orton and Edge will win their respective title matches. This allows the winner of MITB to challenge for one of the titles later in the night. One possibility is having the briefcase cashed in on Edge and Edge losing the Championship as sort of an ironic twist to when Edge used it on Cena years ago.

At 3/10/09 09:27 PM, Shoopufzilla wrote:

At 3/10/09 09:08 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: One heel could probably win, but not 2. Unless again they really are looking to defy the expectations here.

I think it's very plausible that Orton and Edge will win their respective title matches. This allows the winner of MITB to challenge for one of the titles later in the night. One possibility is having the briefcase cashed in on Edge and Edge losing the Championship as sort of an ironic twist to when Edge used it on Cena years ago.

For edge i really don't think he will stay the world heavyweight champ, because as of late WWE wants to "shake things up" and have that championship move to raw and have a fued to see what championship will go to smackdown or if HHH retains his title and moves to raw as planned it will be interesting to see what will happen. Oh also i got tickets to a live Raw in buffalo, my first Raw ever @;-}>

Lemme clarify myself:

...Edge losing the Championship AT WRESTLEMANIA as sort of an ironic twist to when Edge used it on Cena years ago.

I haven't seen any reports on Umaga and his possible injury so maybe he's ok. I do know we are going to see Evan Bourne next week. It will be good to see him back and I hope WWE continues the little push they were giving him.

I really enjoyed ECW last night. The matches they had wre top notch from start to finish. I'm really glad Christian will be part of the MITB match as he will add a great deal to it. I'm still rooting for MVP, but I think there are several wrestlers in that match who are qualified to win.

At 3/11/09 06:06 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I really enjoyed ECW last night. The matches they had wre top notch from start to finish. I'm really glad Christian will be part of the MITB match as he will add a great deal to it. I'm still rooting for MVP, but I think there are several wrestlers in that match who are qualified to win.

christian seems most deserving to me, although i wouldn't mind seeing MVP take the briefcase, but it just seems like he's more in the US title picture right now

I liked the WWEcw rumble last night but i was pretty bummed that Regal was one of the final 3 and got eliminated. Idve loved to see him win.

At 3/12/09 03:07 AM, PantyWipe wrote: I liked the WWEcw rumble last night but i was pretty bummed that Regal was one of the final 3 and got eliminated. Idve loved to see him win.

i was very suprised that Kozlov was eliminated so early into the match, and that Chavo Guerrero was one of the final 2

At 3/12/09 06:02 AM, Random-Her03 wrote: i was very suprised that Kozlov was eliminated so early into the match, and that Chavo Guerrero was one of the final 2

Same here. Chavo has done better on ECW in the past since he did hold the title for a little while but yeah with his recent jobber ways it was a suprise to see him last as long as he did. its a shame that so many of us just look at Chavo as enhancement talent since the dude is obviously talented.

At 3/12/09 03:53 PM, Outlaw88 wrote:

:Same here. Chavo has done better on ECW in the past since he did hold the title for a little while but yeah with his recent jobber ways it was a suprise to see him last as long as he did. its a shame that so many of us just look at Chavo as enhancement talent since the dude is obviously talented.

true i mean the guy is a guerrero for god's sake!

My only problem with the battle royal was the rapid fire eliminations at the start. Glad to see Christian winning. I doubt it will happen, but I'd like to see Christian win the MITB, then cash it in against Edge later in the night.

At 3/13/09 02:10 AM, pepeatumi wrote: My only problem with the battle royal was the rapid fire eliminations at the start. Glad to see Christian winning. I doubt it will happen, but I'd like to see Christian win the MITB, then cash it in against Edge later in the night.

Christian has just not gotten over the way they wanted. I think part of it is they're fault because they've done nothing to re-educate the audience about who he is and what his past with the company is. I think they dramatically over-estimated that they had an audience base that remembers a mid-card guy from the Attitude era who was a mid-carder who fucked off elsewhere (and for most fans just utterly disappeared) from TV 3 years ago. Can't see them giving Christian the win here unless they're going to start pushing the hell out of him and reminding the fans who he is real soon. To me the most likely scenario looks like it goes to MVP and they continue to build him as a strong babyface on his way up to the belt (could this wind up being a repeat of what they tried to do with Kennedy? A guy who will wait until next year's Mania to cash in?)

WWE could still suprise us in that match. Sure I'd like MVP to win, but Benjamin also has a good shot in terms of guys who could use a push to the next level with a big win. However there is a possibility that WWE will give the win to someone like Mark Henry. I don't think he's ever been in a ladder match. It will be interesting to see who gets it.

The way I see it happening Kane and MVP are the two most likely to win the MITB. (or edge as I noted earlier)

You can count on plenty of high spots involving benjamin, christian and kofi.

Kane is always good as a "transitional" champ which is all the mitb winner seems to be. Whoever beats him in the end looks strong.

MVP I don't want to see winning it, but it just seems logical as he is probably the person closest to ME status.

I want to see Christian win!
It won't happen, He will go on to win the ecw title.. hold it for a few months then lose it to an upcoming talent to build them (probably kidd the way things are going) then move to smackdown.

I've been meaning to ask this.. With Christian now in the MITB, where does that leave Jack Swagger and the ECW title? Will we get another pre-show battle royal (With the winner facing Swagger at WM), or will Swagger begin a feud with Evan Bourne, who's supposed to return next week?

At 3/13/09 10:38 AM, pepeatumi wrote: I've been meaning to ask this..

Tommy Dreamer to win the ECW title at wrestlemania and retire.

I don't know about that. The last time we saw Bourne he was attacked by Mike Knox. Plus there is still Finley for Swagger to contend with as well as Dreamer though a WM match between them is highly unlikely. Both Rey and Knox don't have a match yet for WM so there is a possibility that Rey and Bourne could tag against Knox and somebody else.

Bourne spent a lot more time on raw before his injury so i dont know if he'll stick around on ecw much

I think you either do Bourne, or you try to build Dreamer up a bit and send him in there. Those are my top two thoughts.

The only other thing I can see is having some kind of battle royal with the winner getting a shot, because everyone else on the ECW roster right now seems and feels too much like a guy that isn't "there" yet, not even as a no.1 contender let alone someone who might beat Swagger (and honestly, I don't think they should be in any hurry for Swagger to drop soon).

"Test" is apparently dead.

Only 33 years old.

At 3/14/09 08:58 AM, Shaun wrote: "Test" is apparently dead.

Only 33 years old.

I just saw that report. Damn. 33 is too young. I'm sure we'll get more details soon.

I couldn't see SD last night. Not because I wasn't home, but the program got taken out due to a basketball game. I was pretty pissed. I've got no idea what happened yet.

At 3/14/09 10:17 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I've got no idea what happened yet.

Finlay got the last money in the bank spot. Beat Brian Kendrick. I am not happy/

DUDE!
test is dead!

aw wtf man.. he was one of my favourite wrestlers back in the day!

R.I.P

Mmm, why does this happen every year? I suppose as a fan of the wrestling business you have to come to terms with things like this happening more often than usual, but you'd think there could be some preventative measures.

You know, its gotten to the point where wrestling deaths just don't bother all that much. Still, its always terrible to see someone die so young.

RIP, Test.

the autopsy report hasn't been revealed yet
but how do you think he went? reports say he was found just motionless in his condo

he was known as a steroid user do you think this could play a huge part in this whole tragedy?

At 3/14/09 11:52 AM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: Mmm, why does this happen every year? I suppose as a fan of the wrestling business you have to come to terms with things like this happening more often than usual, but you'd think there could be some preventative measures.

If he was in WWE, there would have been. But here was a guy that only worked occasional indies, so how are they going to monitor him and since he is NOT their employee why SHOULD they? I'm not trying to be heartless, this is sad as hell somebody that young is dead...but really, people have to take responsibility for their own actions and we have to lay the blame at his feet. If this doesn't turn out to be some freak condition (and all signs point to this will come out as yet another drug related death) this is on Andrew Martin, not the wrestling business.

Until he fails a test, I'll give you one name that proves that full-timeing in the wrestling business, from indies onto the big stage does not make you a drug user: CM Punk.

As long as he's clean, then that's the shining example to say that guys make their own bad choices, and even if there is a culture permissive to it, or encouraging of it. That is bad, that should indeed be stopped. But you can't blame the business for a guy giving into that temptation and saying "I'm going to do something I know is bad for me, harmful, and illegal". In the end, it is still up to that guy to have made that choice.

Drug use is a problem in the wrestling world. Guys trying to get big or older guys trying to keep their look is the usual cause. (Assuming that scene in "The Wrestler" is true) Some have enough sense to not do it, but far too many it seems don't. It's a damn shame that someone young had to die to remind people of this risk.

Tonight on Raw, a match between Ric Flair and Chris Jericho has been teased. Ric Flair should not wrestle and has said that he is not going to wrestle again. I think he has something up his sleeve with Jimmy Snuka and Roddy Piper.