At 11/24/07 09:05 PM, massacre-studios wrote: hey does anyone know where chris jericho has gone or when he is coming back?

I won't even dignify your post with a response.

Wait, was that a response...............damnit!

At 11/24/07 09:05 PM, massacre-studios wrote: hey does anyone know where chris jericho has gone or when he is coming back?

He's been doing stuff. Spending time with his family, writing a book and just all-around taking a break from wrestling.

And he's coming back last monday >_>

At 11/24/07 09:23 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Anyways, it looks like they killed it off really quick. I think this is their way of writing Vickie of the show and brining back Long, which I'm excited to see.

A tombstone is going to do just that. Unfortunately, Vince loves the storyline too much to drop it anytime soon.

At 11/24/07 04:15 PM, pepeatumi wrote: The more important question is this.... Will Hulk Hogan job to divorce, or will he fake an injury in order to avoid it?

I smell a work, especially Hulk is saying a reporter was the first to tell him this? Nah, he would have been notified by his attorney by now or some shit I think. I think it's a ploy to get VH1 to give them another year if they can get the media stirred up...which is sad as fuck considering everything going on with them now.

Awesome post there though pep.

I guess he will "SAVE_US" with this look... LOL...

Best/Worst angle- Vince's bastard son. For both catagories. WWE did a great job in promoting and hyping this storyline, and we were all very interested to see who would be named Vince's son. However the payoff of it was such a huge letdown that it killed everything they were hyping to begin with.

At 11/24/07 09:54 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Match of the Year

Jeff Hardy Vs. Kennedy (I can't think of anything decent)

Wrestler of the Year

MVP
CM Punk
Mickie James (She mesmerises me)

Tag team of the Year

Londrick
MVP/Hardy

Feud of the Year

MVP/Hardy
MVP/Benoit

Best/Worst Face

Best: Matt Hardy, Farooq
Worst: Batista

Best /Worst Heel

Best: Edge, Orton (Hell, I hate the bastard)
Worst: Marella, Snitsky (Your pain is my pleasure), Vickie Guerrero

Rookie of the Year

Cody Rhodes.

Best/Worst Moment or Angle

Best: BREAK THE WALLS DOWNNNNNN!, Vince goes BOOM
Worst: Jamie Noble the Leprechaun catcher

Best/Worst Promotion

Best: Smackdown
Worst: Raw

Best/Worst PPV

Best: Has there been one?
Worst: Does December to Dismember still count? It should.

Best/Worst Gimmick

Best: The Dead Man forever
Worst: Randy "I'll kick you in the face" Orton

Most Overrated

Orton
Mysterio
Cena
Batista
The Women's division

Most Underrated

Londrick
Jimmy Wang Yang
The Cruiserweight division

At 11/25/07 01:13 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: I smell a work, especially Hulk is saying a reporter was the first to tell him this? Nah, he would have been notified by his attorney by now or some shit I think. I think it's a ploy to get VH1 to give them another year if they can get the media stirred up...which is sad as fuck considering everything going on with them now.

Sad but true. I wouldn't put it past Hogan to come up with this plan for the sake of one more season oh his god-awful show... Hell, Hogan's entire life has basically become one long and terrible angle.

At 11/25/07 01:07 PM, pepeatumi wrote:

Sad but true. I wouldn't put it past Hogan to come up with this plan for the sake of one more season oh his god-awful show... Hell, Hogan's entire life has basically become one long and terrible angle.

I still don't know what to think.........

I expect a triple threat match tomorrow among HBK, Y2J and Kennedy to determine the new No.1 contender. HBK and Kennedy will screw each other over and thus give the win to Y2J.

im expecting umaga vs. jeff hardy

At 11/25/07 08:00 AM, KJDunwoody wrote:

At 11/25/07 04:30 AM, youngblood26 wrote: I guess he will "SAVE_US" with this look... LOL...

I didn't find that the least bit funny.
But he's defaintly saved WWE for a while.

I guess this is serious talk afterall, OK then, serious talk, if it's serious talk!!! >:(

A triple threat match sounds good and it even makes sense, but who knows what wwe will do. Maybe they will push back Jericho's in-ring return until ppv.

At 11/26/07 11:40 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Hahahahaha, alright, who else has seen AJ Styles' Open Letter to Christian on the TNA website?

Fucking Epic :^}D

I read it, and it made my day! Especially the Halo line. For those that haven't read it, here it is.

Dear Boss,

I'm pretty sure you're upset with me. I tried to get in touch with you all day on Friday, but you won't return my calls or text messages. You blocked me on AOL Instant Messenger and won't reply to my Facebook pokes. Heck, I even tried sending you a game invite when I saw you playing Halo 3 online, but you ignored that too. I would have let you frag me with sticky grenades as much as you wanted if it made you feel better. You know, just like old times!

Now, I can understand why you're mad at me after what happened on "iMPACT!" (you know, me accidentally winning the match when you had Jay Lethal beat). But hey, I paid for it in the end, right? I was the one who had to put on that ridiculous turkey outfit. Plus, I'm not sure if you're mad at me for not inviting you to Kurt's Thanksgiving dinner, but I made him promise me that he sent you an invitation. I'm not sure if it got lost or not, but I guess I should have just invited you in person.

I'm also really starting to get the feeling that you're mad at me for supposedly turning my back on you and joining Kurt Angle. But please believe me when I tell you it's all been a huge misunderstanding. When you made me the Captain of the Coalition, I knew I had to do all I could to help our team. That's why I talked to Karen Angle and figured out a way that BOTH sides could work together as an unstoppable unit. Can you imagine me, Tomko, you and Kurt as a team? Who could beat us? Tomko seems to think there's some heat between you and Kurt, but I'm not buying it. I even asked Kurt about it and he just rolled his eyes and walked away, so I know it can't be true!

Christian - I still consider you my close friend. My teacher. My mentor. I would never try to ruin that for anything. So this Thursday night on "iMPACT!", I have a plan that will put all these hard feelings behind us. I've requested interview time on Thursday to explain my idea - all I ask if that you hear me out and give it a chance. I think after Thursday, we'll all be one big happy family again!

I didn't want to post this on the internet for everyone to read, but it's the only way I knew to get my message to you.

See you on Thursday night, Boss. I'll have my cell phone close by in case you want to talk.

Your friend
AJ

PS - Please accept my Halo 3 invite next time you're online. I miss having you on my team and Tomko sucks at it...he keeps killing me with friendly fire - most of the time I think he's doing it on purpose.

Can't wait for Chris Jericho's return!

Match of the Year

This is hard for me, there's so little I watched that was of any consequence to me. Had he lived and wrestled the match, Benoit/Punk probably would have won hands down. I think probably Cena/Michaels

Wrestler of the Year

I think it's CM Punk for me, the guy has been good consistently, carries himself like a champion, always promotes his show and seems legit proud to be there. He drinks Pepsi (which is awesome), and he backs Cobra (which is awesomest). But mostly, I think the man is just a great representative of all that is good and right about the business right now...christ knows we've needed somebody like that to look to recently.

Tag team of the Year

This is hard I think because there have been so few real teams pushed and utilized for any given amount of time. I'll say Londrick as they are an exciting high flying team, and when given the chance, they can shine bright and steal the show.

Feud of the Year

MVP/Hardy

Best/Worst Face

Best Face: You know, I'm gonna pick a dark horse here and say Tommy Dreamer. Yeah he dosen't get pushed, yeah he dosen't get on TV much, but he always gets a reaction. Tommy is over because Tommy is just so real in his love and appreciation for his fans and his brand. Plus, that halloween match was fun as fuck, fuck you if you say different.

Worst: Bobby Lashley. I don't hate the man, but when you can excite a crowd with your size, your brutality, and your athletics, but then you open your mouth and sound like a loser, or someone who can only make your threats work if you swear...well, you just shouldn't be pushed to the top then.

Best /Worst Heel

Best: Edge. Hands down Edge, everything he does is just dripping with slime and evil, every aspiring main event level heel should be watching tapes of him right now. You just love to hate this guy and can't wait till he goes down.

Worst: Khali, there is nothing to recommend about this guy. He has eternal "get off my tv" heat with most of the fan base.

Rookie of the Year

Can you still consider MVP a rookie? Because I think he's the newest guy that's made the most impact and impression. Nobody else really jumps out at me, except maybe Santino. If you don't consider MVP a rookie, then Santino Marella.

Best/Worst Moment or Angle

Best moment: CM Punk wins the ECW title, finally some credibility was returned to the belt as a guy who represented all that was good and right with ANY incarnation of ECW, got his shot at the brass ring.

Worst moment: The Benoit Tragedy, easily, bar none, hands down.

Best/Worst Promotion

Best: ROH, they have a different product, and they smartly promote it.

Worst: TNA, they could and SHOULD be an alternative to WWE, but like WCW before them, they just come off as a pathetic and clueless second rate league.

Best/Worst PPV

I don't really even watch PPV anymore. Both the shows I watched this year (WM and SS) were disappointing to me.

Best/Worst Gimmick

Best gimmick: Umaga, before Triple H made him a pussy. The Samoan Bulldozer was so dominate and captivating he turned baby without even trying.

Worst gimmick: So many...so many...I'd say Santino Marella's initial "fan made good" gimmick. My God did that flop fast.

Most Overrated: Great Khali, they keep trying to make people give a shit and nobody does.

Most Underrated: Shelton Benjamin. Great performances his entire career, but before last week's jump to ECW was last seen jobbing to two guys who don't even get on real TV anymore. Hopefully 2008 treats this kid way way better.

Lets also add Snitski to the most underrated list as well as worst heel.

Best momment: Jericho's return!
Worst moment: Benoit Tragedy--Avie is right. No contest with this.

At 11/26/07 09:10 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Lets also add Snitski to the most underrated list as well as worst heel.

I mean Overrated! Overrated! The guy sucks!!!

I'll give MVP the rookie nod, since I still don't like Santino all that much. He just doesn't impress me in the ring. On the mic? He's amusing at times.

Odd that they are starting Raw with their "Main event dream match" Does this mean the rest of the show will suck? WWE sure does some strange things.

Red: There is one more category you forgot:

Best Mic Skills.

It's actually a very important category, in the grand scheme of things.

Damn, they REALLY hate Carlito, don't they?

*sigh*

I know I'm not in this club; but hell to that.

My friend and I got tickets to next week's RAW in Charleston. Not the best seats (behind the announcer's table and back behind floor seating). Unfortunately; I probably won't end up on TV like last time (2 years ago). It's funny because I literally stopped watching wrestling when WWE let RVD and Sabu go (that was wasted talent). But the other day I actually found out that Y2J came back; so I guess I'm a slight bit interested again.

Funniest thing is that I still actually have my old Newgrounds sign that I took that time; but what sign should I make this time? I'll record the episode on my computer in the hope that I make it on TV.

I was actually about to do a review myself, but I was beaten - which makes things easier on me. :P

At 11/26/07 01:41 PM, pepeatumi wrote:

At 11/26/07 11:40 AM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Hahahahaha, alright, who else has seen AJ Styles' Open Letter to Christian on the TNA website?

Fucking Epic :^}D

I read it, and it made my day! Especially the Halo line. For those that haven't read it, here it is.

Dear Boss,

I'm pretty sure you're upset with me. I tried to get in touch with you all day on Friday, but you won't return my calls or text messages. You blocked me on AOL Instant Messenger and won't reply to my Facebook pokes. Heck, I even tried sending you a game invite when I saw you playing Halo 3 online, but you ignored that too. I would have let you frag me with sticky grenades as much as you wanted if it made you feel better. You know, just like old times!

Now, I can understand why you're mad at me after what happened on "iMPACT!" (you know, me accidentally winning the match when you had Jay Lethal beat). But hey, I paid for it in the end, right? I was the one who had to put on that ridiculous turkey outfit. Plus, I'm not sure if you're mad at me for not inviting you to Kurt's Thanksgiving dinner, but I made him promise me that he sent you an invitation. I'm not sure if it got lost or not, but I guess I should have just invited you in person.

I'm also really starting to get the feeling that you're mad at me for supposedly turning my back on you and joining Kurt Angle. But please believe me when I tell you it's all been a huge misunderstanding. When you made me the Captain of the Coalition, I knew I had to do all I could to help our team. That's why I talked to Karen Angle and figured out a way that BOTH sides could work together as an unstoppable unit. Can you imagine me, Tomko, you and Kurt as a team? Who could beat us? Tomko seems to think there's some heat between you and Kurt, but I'm not buying it. I even asked Kurt about it and he just rolled his eyes and walked away, so I know it can't be true!

Christian - I still consider you my close friend. My teacher. My mentor. I would never try to ruin that for anything. So this Thursday night on "iMPACT!", I have a plan that will put all these hard feelings behind us. I've requested interview time on Thursday to explain my idea - all I ask if that you hear me out and give it a chance. I think after Thursday, we'll all be one big happy family again!

I didn't want to post this on the internet for everyone to read, but it's the only way I knew to get my message to you.

See you on Thursday night, Boss. I'll have my cell phone close by in case you want to talk.

Your friend
AJ

PS - Please accept my Halo 3 invite next time you're online. I miss having you on my team and Tomko sucks at it...he keeps killing me with friendly fire - most of the time I think he's doing it on purpose.

I luv that last part. :P I'd love to actually see Tomko do that on Halo 3, tee-hee.

At 11/26/07 11:15 PM, The-Redangleprince wrote: Wow, what a Raw. Worthy of a review? I think so.

After opening up with a solid tag match that really got me excited about this Triple H/Hardy team, Regal comes out and pits them against each other in a match at Armageddon. An interesting twist, and a welcomed one. They seem like they wanna push Hardy so I don't see Trips getting an easy...or clean victory over Hardy. Who knows, maybe Jeff might even win. Could you imagine what that would do for him and the IC Belt?

If there's a way to give Jeff a gigantic push, this would be it.

Next was Flair pulling a fast one on us and declaring that he'd never retire. But we're still getting the retirement angle in Orton. Listen, I don't care what anyone says about Ortons demeanor. You dont need charisma to be evil, no change in tone to be sadistic, no expression to be cold, no over-the-top antics to be the champion. Orton plays his part, and plays it well. He is the very picture of villainy.

The 'lose-&-retire' gimmick is a great idea by Creative for Flair to go out on; I doubt he'll be squashed in whatever match he loses in when the time comes, and he'll go out in a blaze of glory like he said he would. For once, Creative is using their heads, and for a legacy like Flair's, that's all we ask.

8-Man Tag = filler. But seriously, did JR call Jim Duggan, Bob Holly, and Super Crazy young men? In fact, wasn't it the other team that was comprised of 'young men'?

I noticed that; I don't know how old Crazy & Duggan are, but I DO know that Holly is DEFINITELY not a young man.

Jericho revealing the Code Breaker was cool, though I felt the segments ran a bit too long and the crowd wasn't really reacting. Still, great to Jericho back in action and enjoying his ringwork.

I was expecting a little more out of the new finisher, but it's hard to argue with a double-knee Facebuster version of Carlito's move.

Alright....The Hornswoggle-Carlito bit was hokey, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't laugh. Now weather I laughed cause it was funny or I laughed cause it was ridiculous is a different story. Poor Carlito.

Whether or not Carlito's career continues to be flushed down the proverbial toilet by all this, it was still hilarious.

The subtleness of having Kennedy beat Brian Kendrick, who was taught by Shawn Michaels, was probably an accident, but it was a pretty cool touch none-the-less.

Shawn taught Kendrick? Maybe Vince had that in mind.

Melina is incredibly hot. Mickie beat her. End Line.

Yeah, pretty much. ^_^ Except that they're both hot. :P

They really did a great job of making this match seem like a big time deal. The guys getting behind Flair and Orton heeling the crowd, there was no lack of emotion out there tonight. They made it feel like Orton would win all along, but Naitch pulled out the victory and in my opinion, did it in a way that doesn't really hurt Randy Orton. Losing to the one, true legend in a city they practically named "Flair Country" via low blow? I doubt that'll hurt him too much as he enters his battle with Jericho.

Yeah, it definitely was a good way of both promoting the inevitable Orton/Y2J feud, but allowing Flair to pwn his opponent in his hometown the way he does best - dirty. :P

Raw was great tonight. Hated the continued demening of Carlito, but everything else was great.

There is definate promise for the HHH/Jeff match. A big win or Jeff is a great push into the ME level and a big help for the IC title.

I have to admit that the Santino/Jericho segment was funny as hell and awesome. The "Me want title match" bit had me laughing hard especially when the cookie monster was shown.

Hey, Carlito got a win... On Heat >_>

As for the people that can't decide what the MOTY is... shame on you! You have the Internets! Not that difficult to look around and find MOTY candidates. Even if they're not from WWE or TNA.

I didn't vote for MVP because he debuted last year. His first match was at No Mercy which took place on October... So I can't really call him a Rookie.

I had one problem with RAW... Why didn't Snitsky get pinned? I mean, really? You protect FUCKING SNITSKY and you let Umaga get pinned again? Also, breaking news. RANDY ORTON SUCKS! HOW PEOPLE CAN BE ENTERTAINED BY HIM IS A MYSTERY TO ME! Just look at the lack of reaction he gets when he comes out and during his matches.

Orton isn't sadistic, he's robotic. You can tell his promos are scripted, and I just can't buy anything that the man says. But hey, HHH likes him, so he MUST be great.

The thing about Orton is that he is easy to hate.

Who do you think will end up retiring Flair? I'm thinking he will hang in there at least until WM.

I think they should also hold off on the Orton/Jericho match until then as well. Have Randy duck Y2J for as long as he can, making jericho have to win the Royal Rumble to get a title shot.

At 11/27/07 08:25 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: The thing about Orton is that he is easy to hate.

True. The thing is, I hate him just like I hated X-Pac. You know, a get the fuck off of my TV kind of hate.

Who do you think will end up retiring Flair? I'm thinking he will hang in there at least until WM.

You know. I've heard that Sting's contract with TNA runs out at the end of the year. Sting has said he's wanted to hang them up for good and he's never wrestled for WWE... So, why not give him a legends deal (which would allow for a Best of Sting DVD) have him wrestle one match for WWE, vs Flair at Wrestlemania (It makes sense, given their long history) and have both men retire. Hell, you could even build the Hall of Fame Ceremony around both men.

On a different note. What did everyone think of Jericho's new finisher? I like it, but I don't know if I buy it as a move that can win big matches... I still prefer the Walls of Jericho, to be honest.

Tonight's yet another BDV/Kane match, but we luck out because it's Extreme Rules this time - something we get few & far between now (which is the whole point of ECW in the first place, Vincehole!).

At 11/26/07 11:46 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I have to admit that the Santino/Jericho segment was funny as hell and awesome. The "Me want title match" bit had me laughing hard especially when the cookie monster was shown.

I can't believe I forgot about that - that was hilarious.

Me. Want. Title. COOKIE!......er, I mean Match.

At 11/27/07 10:50 AM, pepeatumi wrote: You know. I've heard that Sting's contract with TNA runs out at the end of the year. Sting has said he's wanted to hang them up for good and he's never wrestled for WWE... So, why not give him a legends deal (which would allow for a Best of Sting DVD) have him wrestle one match for WWE, vs Flair at Wrestlemania (It makes sense, given their long history) and have both men retire. Hell, you could even build the Hall of Fame Ceremony around both men.

The question is, are they (Creative & Vince) smart enough to come up with that? Usually, that question ends with 'no'.

Hornswoggle and Carlitos bit was..........simple??

Hey how bout that "Codebreaker" Jericho has??

Apparently, you've been gone so long that I don't recognize you. >_< No offense. :P

Anyway, there appears to be a working relationship between the WWE's two resident gigantic black dudes. :P Not good for Kane. However, BDV did get one nasty gash on him that definitely didn't look faked to me; he played that up pretty well for being unscripted.

Jesse & Festus proved to be, even though they lost, a threat to Morrison & Miz's Tag Titles. I'm sure it'll be a while before they can get to big-time status, but it's definitely a good start.

In speaking of those two:

Rookie(s) of the Year: Jesse & Festus

Yes, I'm finally making nominations. But, on some of them, since I haven't ever watched ROH, I'm gonna' be limited in my picks to just WWE/TNA wrestlers.

ECW was pretty good last night. The main event was worth watching and the tag bout was good too. Benjamin is doing good by being able to run over his competition in an impressive way to remind everyone what he is capable of.