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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-14 23:50:42


Seriously, what happened on SD last week? Like I said last post, I missed the whole thing due to fucking college basketball being on over it. And the kicker is they only just started putting college basketball on that station! Utter bullshit. It's nothing against college basketball, it just shouldn't be on a CW network.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-15 00:11:58


AJPW and TNA? All Japan really must be hurting badly these days to wanna do this...I mean, Muta was at the PPV, but they didn't use him. Theroetically, this is a great oppurtunity for both sides as the TNA talent would get to work in Japan which has been a good experience for almost every wrestler that's ever gone there, and the All Japan talents could work TNA and really provide wrestling fans with something new and exciting...so of course that's not going to happen because Russo is (in my opinion based on comments I've read, let me stress again MY OPINION!) slightly racist, and has never really seen the value in international talents.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-15 00:14:52


At 3/14/07 11:50 PM, Assi9 wrote: Seriously, what happened on SD last week? Like I said last post, I missed the whole thing due to fucking college basketball being on over it. And the kicker is they only just started putting college basketball on that station! Utter bullshit. It's nothing against college basketball, it just shouldn't be on a CW network.

Well, I have a terrible memory and I only remember two things... A dull match between Batista and Kane, and a good match between FInlay and Taker.

But still go here.... http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/tv_reports/
51715/The-Smackdown-Breakdown-3.09.07.htm

Its basically a recap of Smackdown.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-15 00:17:13


At 3/14/07 11:50 PM, Assi9 wrote: Seriously, what happened on SD last week? Like I said last post, I missed the whole thing due to fucking college basketball being on over it. And the kicker is they only just started putting college basketball on that station! Utter bullshit. It's nothing against college basketball, it just shouldn't be on a CW network.

Here you go.
http://www.gerweck.net/news/1173499678.shtml
Or go to wwe.com and click results or videos.
I never get to see smackdown... cuz I work on friday night... otherwise i'd be watching it.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-15 02:27:25


At 3/14/07 03:00 PM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: is 2007 going to be a bad year for wrestler deaths?

Only if The Ultimate Warrior dies.

Then, all hope will be lost.

ALL. HOPE.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-15 08:20:01


At 3/14/07 06:13 PM, Kiddmeizter wrote: I would like to join this club.

post again and we'll make it official.

Source: The Pro Wrestling Insider
Edge suffered a fractured jaw several weeks ago in a match with ECW's Rob Van Dam.
That is the reason he has not had a match since and will not wrestle until the Money in the Bank Ladder Match at Wrestlemania.

That would explain it then. I was wondering why Edge was staying out of action.

Also WWE is going to make all their PPV's multi-brand. Starting with Backlash, all PPV's will feature wrestlers from the three brands. Which to me means that the under-card is screwed. They barely get tv or ppv time as it is, and now with the main eventers from all three shows competing for that sot on the card, it will be that much tougher for the guys lower on the ladder.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-15 12:23:19


At 3/15/07 08:20 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Also WWE is going to make all their PPV's multi-brand. Starting with Backlash, all PPV's will feature wrestlers from the three brands. Which to me means that the under-card is screwed. They barely get tv or ppv time as it is, and now with the main eventers from all three shows competing for that sot on the card, it will be that much tougher for the guys lower on the ladder.

It really wouldn't be so bad if all of the top card were actually good, I just don't think I could handle watching Lashley and Cena at every single PPV.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-15 13:06:39


At 3/15/07 08:20 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Also WWE is going to make all their PPV's multi-brand. Starting with Backlash, all PPV's will feature wrestlers from the three brands. Which to me means that the under-card is screwed. They barely get tv or ppv time as it is, and now with the main eventers from all three shows competing for that sot on the card, it will be that much tougher for the guys lower on the ladder.

That's exactly why this is a double-edged sword. If talent from every roster appears at every PPV, then the under-card is completely f***ed, and the middle-card will also suffer.

The only benefit I can see would be that each PPV is going to be much more star-studded, this (in theory) leading to more buys.

Personally, if I were Vince, I wouldn't have gone quite this far. If WWE were to hold 14 Pay-Per-Views in a year, I would have given 1 to ECW, 3 to RAW and 3 to SmackDown!, thus leaving 7 PPV's (Wrestlemaina, Royal Rumble, Survivor Series, SummerSlam + 3 more) for cross-brand competition.

Of course, I'm not Vince "Billionaire" McMahon...


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-15 13:21:29


At 3/15/07 01:06 PM, Zornkatzu wrote: The only benefit I can see would be that each PPV is going to be much more star-studded, this (in theory) leading to more buys.

I think it will just lead to a big burnout, where no one wants to see all the big stars because they get them shoved down their throats at every given opportunity. Plus, they already have too many PPVs, they should just concentrate on making themselves better, rather than big blowout (and expensive) events every 3 weeks.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-15 14:26:29


At 3/15/07 01:21 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: I think it will just lead to a big burnout, where no one wants to see all the big stars because they get them shoved down their throats at every given opportunity. Plus, they already have too many PPVs, they should just concentrate on making themselves better, rather than big blowout (and expensive) events every 3 weeks.

That's possible. We all saw what happened when Cena was shoved down our throats...

To be honest, I agree with you. If WWE wants to make every PPV multi-brand, then they should cut back on the number off PPV's they hold each year. I believe they currently hold 1 PPV every month, plus December to Dismember and One Night Stand. They should really limit themselves to 1 PPV a month (no exceptions) at a maximum. Otherwise, as you said, it will just be the same superstars being thrown at us all of the time.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-15 20:33:36


Nobody seems to be sure what the hell is up with this JBL thing, he was talking about a procedure which could fix the debilitating pain in his back and maybe get him back in the ring, but nobody knows of him having gone through with it.

WWE is either going to do a bait and switch, or JBL has possibly had the surgery secretly and WWE is trotting him out as a surprise cause they think he'll pop a rating...god knows why they'd think that.

Agreed about the PPV's, I think WWE is most likely going to wind up shooting themselves in the foot unless they rotate the undercards about in terms of who tends to get matches on the PPV's, they also need to go back to 12 shows per year, one a month, no more of this doubling up the shows shit. Hell, Triple H going down in January should have taught them that having as many shows as they do, with top card acts who are getting older, is a really bad idea. I understand they want to make as much money as they possibly can, but milking the existing audience and talent base like they do is I think going to cost them more long term then what they'll really gain short term.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-15 21:11:19


At 3/15/07 12:14 AM, pepeatumi wrote:
At 3/14/07 11:50 PM, Assi9 wrote: Seriously, what happened on SD last week? Like I said last post, I missed the whole thing due to fucking college basketball being on over it. And the kicker is they only just started putting college basketball on that station! Utter bullshit. It's nothing against college basketball, it just shouldn't be on a CW network.
Well, I have a terrible memory and I only remember two things... A dull match between Batista and Kane, and a good match between FInlay and Taker.

But still go here.... http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/tv_reports/
51715/The-Smackdown-Breakdown-3.09.07.htm

Its basically a recap of Smackdown.

Thanx. ^_^

Krystal seems to be acting retarded; "big crazy stupidhead"? WTF?

Oh, gee; King Bookah wins........big fucking surprise........

I don't quite understand what the guy doing the review meant by Teddy Long "enjoying some peanut-head time".......oh, wait, does this involve Krystal getting half-naked again? Ho-boy; after that, I've gained some interest in her again, too.^_^ (Whether or not she made herself sound like an idiot earlier...)

Sounds like Batista/Kane & Finlay/Taker were pretty good, but what I'm pissed off at missing is not being to see CM Punk wrestle for the first time, since I've yet to see ECW. Oh, well. And why did Kennedy have to repeat "bank" like his last name? Ugh. Don't overdo it.

Well, this's discouraging; the review writer doesn't exactly approve of Ashley's Playboy shoot. Not good for me. However, I seem to have.....hurt myself.....somehow, so a Playboy issue may not be a good idea at the moment anyway. >_< >_< >_<

Miz is back......meh.

Khali again? We get it; now take it back to RAW.

Is it just me, or did Cole mess up on someone's name before, not too long ago?

In closing, whoever came up with 'Hornswaggle' needs to be tortured to death.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-15 21:17:00


Oh, god (wait, bad choice of words); JBL back in the ring? YAY! BREAK HIS BACK FOR REAL THIS TIME!!!! KILL HIM!!! KILL HIM!!!

I thought his 'back injury' was fake; I guess not.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-15 23:48:39


JR responded to what I asked him in a long comment on his blog.

Vince- “If Stone Cold drank less beer and hit the gym would he be able to wrestle more?” Wow. Austin had major neck surgery, as most fans know, a few years back which will continue limit his ability to wrestle on a regular basis unless he wants to risk being confined to a wheel chair if seriously injured again. Steve does work out regularly and drinks infinitely less beer or any other form of alcohol than he did in his hey day. Many of us wish Steve could wrestle regularly again but that’s not the hand that was dealt him. Will the WWE hire Teddy Hart? I have no idea. He has had two chances in the WWE already. Will the 3rd time be the charm? Perhaps. Teddy has talent but there is more to being on the WWE roster than simply having physical skills.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-15 23:58:25


So, now that JR has said what I've said for I don't know how long here, can we all accept that Austin is only going to do guest referee shots and things like that and enjoy him for what he is without driving people like me bugshit with the whole "when is he gonna wrestle again?" HE'S NOT!!!


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-16 00:28:26


At 3/15/07 11:48 PM, YoinK wrote: Will the WWE hire Teddy Hart? I have no idea. He has had two chances in the WWE already. Will the 3rd time be the charm? Perhaps. Teddy has talent but there is more to being on the WWE roster than simply having physical skills.

Translation.... Teddy Hart although talented is one of the most selfish individuals in the wrestling business, and only cares about his popularity even if he has to no-sell moves and make opponents look bad.

Its pretty much what everyone has said about Teddy. As for Austin, its the truth... He's not coming back as a wrestler period.. You could say the same about The Rock. The onlt guy who left who has a legitimate chance of coming back is Chris Jericho and that's not going to be happening anytime soon either.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-16 06:55:14


I agree about the fact they need to cut back on the amount of shows they do. They are just going to make the fans burned out on what they present that much faster if they feature the same group of giuys on each and every show.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-16 15:32:03


At 3/16/07 06:55 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I agree about the fact they need to cut back on the amount of shows they do. They are just going to make the fans burned out on what they present that much faster if they feature the same group of giuys on each and every show.

Not to mention the more shows guys work, the higher the risk of injury is. WWE really needs to spend some time re-thinking their strategies for some of their shows (like maybe only having one champion defending his belt per B-level show). One of the reasons why ECW (and let's face it, a lot of the wrestling mind set love it or not, has been copying a lot of ECW ideas and innovations for about a decade now) could do the kind of shows of physical matches they did is because they didn't run more then a few times a month, even near the end of the promotion. If guys are only on the road and working a handful of shows, well spaced apart, allowed them to do a lot more to give the fans their best effort because they knew most injuries they'd sustain could be healed up by the next show.

I'm not saying WWE needs to run less shows, because I know they won't because of the revenue they'd lose, but they have to learn to prioritize the shows better and build the roster in such a way that you could have a show headlined by say, a Bobby Lashley and then have some solid undercard guys on it that are also over, so that you can draw without forcing the same main event guys to work every single house show, tv, and PPV event. Guys like H and Michaels while still great workers and draws, aren't as young as they used to be, and their assets WWE should be wanting to protect by using them with more care (ditto Flair), but they should also keep these assets from not letting them develop the next generation of stars that will carry the company.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-16 15:48:04


At 3/16/07 03:32 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: Some solid arguments.

Agreed. Ric Flair, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, The Undertaker; all of these guys are great workers, but are getting on in their years and can't be used for every House Show all the time. As you said, WWE should use House Shows to help build up middle and under-card wrestlers that are over with the crowd, and use them to attract people, instead of risking injury to their main-event wrestlers.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-16 16:11:23


God i just KNOW that batista is going to win at wm23!!!! I just want to prove to the world that I have the biggest deepest feeling that batistas gunna win oh my god!!!!!!!!

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-16 16:33:15


At 3/16/07 04:11 PM, kittenheart24 wrote: God i just KNOW that batista is going to win at wm23!!!! I just want to prove to the world that I have the biggest deepest feeling that batistas gunna win oh my god!!!!!!!!

Bet me money on it, I always like taking free money off of people.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-16 18:37:17


At 3/16/07 04:33 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:
At 3/16/07 04:11 PM, kittenheart24 wrote: God i just KNOW that batista is going to win at wm23!!!! I just want to prove to the world that I have the biggest deepest feeling that batistas gunna win oh my god!!!!!!!!
Bet me money on it, I always like taking free money off of people.

As scary as it sounds, I have the same feeling of dread. I think Undertaker will win, but by DQ, this having him keep his streak, but leaving it tarnished. God, I hope I'm wrong.

If WWE wants Batista to get a rub from this match, I suggest the following: A best 2-out-of-3 falls match.

Batista could then pin 'Taker, thus being the first to do so at Wrestlemania, but Undertaker would eventually go on to win the match by taking the other 2 falls, thus keeping his streak intact.

Personally, I would want nothing more than for Undertaker to beat Batista clean and continue his streak without being tarnished. However, if Vince absolutely MUST give Batista a rub, I like my above method.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-16 18:51:44


The last I heard was WWE was leaning towards Taker beating Batista clean because they're aware Batista is being lazy in the ring and relying on his look and past accomplishments to get him over and they want a message sent. Plus, they have to be aware there is going to be a riot in that building if they try to have the streak ended, or have Taker getting tarnished or screwed in any way. Taker can have a short little reign and drop it back to Batista at Backlash or Judgement Day if they really want, but he needs and deserves the clean win at Mania for WWE to maxmimize the fan goodwill towards that show.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-17 00:04:01


I don't know if this is true or if it is just me but I believe a mess-up occured this week on ECW. During the battle royal there were various things that made the match really fake and passed it off as some sort of comedy act.

I knew at the beginning of the match that it would come down to RVD and Elijah Burke and then RVD winning the match (afterall ECW lacks variety usually giving wins to face wrestlers). I'm almost 100% certain Dreamer wasn't supposed to win and that RVD was meant to. Here are the reasons why I think they messed up the match:

1. Sandman pathetically jumped into the barricade which just looked retarded. He definitely didn't look like a veteran with that display.

2. Cor Von literally threw himself over the top which continued to make the match look like rookie actors at a stage rehearsal.

3. Thorn was supposed to be superkicked out by RVD. However, he couldn't successfully backflip over which forced RVD to do a clothesline ( the momentum would have a better chance of knocking Thorn over). Once again Thorn messed up. At this point the commentators were speechless as Thorn couldn't perform the stunt correctly. RVD used his risky last resort which finally got Thorn out but ruined the kayfabe of the match.

4. RVD accidently touched both his feet to the floor. He tried as quickly as possible to lift one foot up thus making it seem that he hadn't been eliminated. Unfortuneately Matt Striker while attempting to bring RVD back in knocked him off the apron. Kayfabe couldn't possibly find an excuse to keep RVD in the match thus ruining the final outcome as it was planned.

5. Burke and Striker made it pretty obvious that they had screwed up after they had surprised looks on their faces. There was an awkward 10 seconds as they tried to figure out what to do. The commentators were still speechless as this match turned into a disaster.

6. Burke and Striker had to improvise while still attempting to stick to the script. They seemed to rush Striker's elimination, and then finally rushing Burke's as well.

7. Dreamer winning made no sense, especially for ECW when they always have obvious outcomes. That was the final icing on the cake for realizing that wasn't supposed to happen.

Now there is a chance that I'm wrong but I have a strong feeling that I'm right. What do you think about the situation?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-17 01:29:03


Hey guys great news, I bought the complete Royal Rumble series for only 200$ canadian. I have only managed to watch 2002 since they are so long and wicked. I already own 2003-2005, but I still don't mind watching them. Anyways what do you guys think of it?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-17 02:00:07


I think the anthologies are a really cool idea by WWE, and I really hope that once they bust through with doing anthologies of their own major PPV's they branch out into doing stuff for the other companies in their library, I think it'd be great to get anthologies of ECW shows like the November to Remember or something and see how it evolved from being a "supercard" that they'd run in like the ECW Arena and then film for commercial release to being an annual PPV event. I think a Starcade and Clash of The Champions anthology would also be good stuff. WWE really needs to get more DVD's out that are like complete shows from their video libraries rather then spliced anthologies, or extras on documentaries (though I'm not knocking the documentary pieces for the most part as they've done some really excellent one's over the years). We'll have to see what happens once WWE gets a Summerslam and Survivor Series anthology out if they have any interest in expanding that idea.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-17 02:34:06


Also, apparently reports of a talent exchange program between TNA and All-Japan were untrue as PWInsider says TNA talked to Keiji Mutoh over the weekend, but no plans for him or trading talent with All Japan exist.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-17 11:54:13


What really bugs me about WWE and their DVD's is the fact that thery are sitting on the WCW library and haven't done a damn thing with it. Now I'm not saying they should use all that they have, WCW's final years was the stuff of nightmares, but there is some great stuff in there. A dvd with some Booker T matches, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, and more are there. They have plenty to work with yet they can't get over the fact that it's WCW stuff..


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-17 21:11:06


Don't worry, you're wrong, because DQ doesn't ever happen at wrestlemanis, especially the main event. I meant that I'm having visions of batista leaving wm23 the World Heavyweight Champion.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-18 00:44:54


If WWE knows what's good for them there won't be a DQ finish.

Damn that looks bad. Davari sure took that one the hard way huh?

I think Edge was on Mad TV tonight, but I missed it. Anyone see it by any chance?


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