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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-11 09:43:25


At 3/11/07 01:32 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: it's pretty criminal to me that Londrick is verging on one of the longest tag title reigns in WWE history and they a) Don't have a proper team name, and b) WWE has done nothing to acknowledge their reign is getting towards the land of historic, that's fucking sad and disrespectful.

Especially when you consider Gregory Helms, who we were constantly reminded was the longest reigning champion in God knows how long. Londrick have defended their titles much more.
Whatever happened to the teased break-up by the way? That seemed to just fizzle out in the light of Mercury's broken nose storyline.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-11 10:51:52


Probably because wwe had no real backups to give the belts too. It is highly disrespectful how little they use the tag champs here.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-11 11:22:47


At 3/11/07 01:32 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: I've heard they're going to have a couple of like tag gauntlet clusterfucks to get guys onto the show, so I figure Londrick will probably put up their tag titles in one of those (hopefully not jobbing them) it's pretty criminal to me that Londrick is verging on one of the longest tag title reigns in WWE history and they a) Don't have a proper team name, and b) WWE has done nothing to acknowledge their reign is getting towards the land of historic, that's fucking sad and disrespectful.

I completely agree. At least on RAW, the Tag Titles are being used as a plot device. On SmackDown!, they've become almost completely meaningless. It's just like the Cruiserweight Title a little while back. It was completely stagnant and almost never defended.

I, too, find it highly disrespectful to past champions who fought long and hard to win the tag team straps. WWE better get their act together quick. I'm angry enough as it is that both the IC Title and ECW Title will likely not be defended at 'Mania.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-11 12:25:03


At 3/11/07 01:32 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: I've heard they're going to have a couple of like tag gauntlet clusterfucks to get guys onto the show, so I figure Londrick will probably put up their tag titles in one of those (hopefully not jobbing them) it's pretty criminal to me that Londrick is verging on one of the longest tag title reigns in WWE history and they a) Don't have a proper team name, and b) WWE has done nothing to acknowledge their reign is getting towards the land of historic, that's fucking sad and disrespectful.

You have to remember two things... First, they're cruiserweights. Even though they've been champs for a while and the fact that they're both great in the ring, they're small guys so obviously they won't get the same treatment as the "prototypical WWE wrestlers". And second of all... They didn't become stars in the WWE, and that's not something Vince likes a lot. He prefers to make his own stars and seeing as how London and Kendrick gained a lot of popularity in their ROH days, it shouldn't be a surprise that they're overlooked....Even with all of their success.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-11 12:41:51


At 3/11/07 12:25 PM, pepeatumi wrote: They didn't become stars in the WWE, and that's not something Vince likes a lot. He prefers to make his own stars and seeing as how London and Kendrick gained a lot of popularity in their ROH days, it shouldn't be a surprise that they're overlooked....Even with all of their success.

Vince probably should've learnt from Stone Cold. He only became so successful through another wrestler's mistake, in the first place, but could you imagine where WWE would be without Austin?

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-11 15:08:48


At 3/11/07 12:41 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: Vince probably should've learnt from Stone Cold. He only became so successful through another wrestler's mistake, in the first place, but could you imagine where WWE would be without Austin?

WWE wouldn't nearly be as successful... Austin brought the best out of other wrestlers.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-11 15:22:10


Personally i think taht wwe is a horrible actor creator, i mean tahts all acting, nothing is real, thank god i dont see it for a long time, its a too stupid influence to kids

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-11 23:35:56


Speaking of the tag champs:

Credit: PWInsider.com

Paul London & Brian Kendrick are celebrating their 294th day as WWE Tag Team Champions today. They have now tied for fourth ALL TIME in WWE tag team history in longevity with the British Bulldogs( 4/7/86-1/26/87) and Chief Jay Strongbow & Billy White Wolf (12/7/76-9/27/77).

They will pass both those teams and become the 4th longest reigning tag team champions in World Wrestling Entertainment history as of tomorrow. Not bad for a couple of cruiserweights.

Of course, they're the longest reigning Smackdown tag champs in history, but they still have some catching up to do to three World Tag Team Champs: Demolition still has the record at 478 days, Jimmy & Johnny Valiant are second at 370 days, and Toru Tanaka & Mr. Fuji are third at 337 days. And after today, London & Kendrick are #4.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-12 00:43:56


I was just gonna post that, if there's not even a quick little acknowledgement of Londrick's accomplishment on SD! this week, WWE may as well just publicly admit they don't care about the tag belts. This to me just points out how WWE is rather stupidly throwing away a device that could give people rub, I mean, it was only a few years ago that when you one a title in WWE or anywhere that instantly meant you "mattered" didn't matter what title it was, you instantly were elevated because your title was booked as mattering, so you would instantly matter in winning it. At this point the belts don't intrinsically matter, it's all about who happens to be holding them at a particular time for them to matter, it's just stupid business to me to have title matches on shows and not act like they're a big deal. If WWE was truly smart, they could actually probably start crafting storylines and characters to the point where you could have the US or IC belts defended on their respective shows basically weekly, and then have the main titles held off until PPV or very special episodes they want to spike a rating on, but ya know, why would we want to do that?

WWE once again shows with the way it treats titles what I think is the number one killer of any long-term momentum they might build: ADD like booking that says "this will matter when we want it to matter, and it won't when we don't...but when we want it to matter again, it shall matter". They want the reward without doing the work and nobody is stupid enough to buy that. If you treat a title or a talent like he dosen't have any worth or value, you can't just start pushing him hard and act like he's been a star for the last year out of the blue and expect that to get over (the creation of the JBL character is a perfect example of this to my mind).


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-12 02:54:40


I missed SD due to fucking college basketball being on........ARRGH!

And just now, I tried to do another catchup post, but Firefox 'illegally operated' again. I should know better to not even bother with multi-quoting until I get a better comp by now, you'd think. >_<

Anyway, I did catch SD the week before, and got to see Lashley scare the shit out of McMahon, Ashley looking hot in stripes & Jimmy Wang Yang flying every which fricking way, so I guess it wasn't that big a deal to miss the recent installment with that one being as good as it was. But if anyone knows what happened recently, I still wouldn't mind knowing. ^_^


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-12 06:52:08


I would hope they have something on them this week too. Hell any actual tag team on there would be nice. Where are Regal and Taylor? They were the top tag contenders not long ago and we haven't seen them in weeks. They need to feature at least one good tag match each week to at least let us know the division even exisits.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-12 12:08:12


At 3/12/07 12:43 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: At this point the belts don't intrinsically matter, it's all about who happens to be holding them at a particular time for them to matter, it's just stupid business to me to have title matches on shows and not act like they're a big deal.

You couldn't possibly be talking about Umaga's IC title win could you? Or HBK and Superman's Tag Title win? Or the fact that ECW's only champion (and therefore biggest representative) won't even be defending his title at the biggest show of them all?

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-12 14:43:59


At 3/12/07 12:25 PM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: Speaking of missing No. 1 Contenders, Cryme Tyme were supposedly the No. 1 Contenders for the World Tag Team Championship; what happened to that? Has that just been forgotten about while HBK and Jesus Reborn have their storyline?

Sadly, that's just another example of Creative forgetting about their own storylines.

However, despite some blunders (particularly with Tag Teams, as we have discussed), I have been rather impressed with WWE Creative as of late. Wrestlemania seems to bring out the best in them. Now if only they could do so well for the other 11 months of the year, they'd be set!


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-12 15:47:49


At 3/12/07 02:43 PM, Zornkatzu wrote: Sadly, that's just another example of Creative forgetting about their own storylines.

3 month rule'd... Actually, 2 month rule'd. So creative forgot about quicker that usual.

However, despite some blunders (particularly with Tag Teams, as we have discussed), I have been rather impressed with WWE Creative as of late. Wrestlemania seems to bring out the best in them. Now if only they could do so well for the other 11 months of the year, they'd be set!

That always happens and when you look at it, it comes down to basics. There's no over the top storyline just something simple... Cena has the title, Shawn wants the title, Michaels is willing to do anything to win it and Cena will do anything to keep it,

Its Pro Wrestling at its simplest form... But like you said, let's hope that creative can keep this up for the rest of the year.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-12 21:57:35


Its been a while since somethng cool happened... But I'm pretty sure that everyone marked out when The Rock appeared on the Titantron... And he still cuts a better promo than anyone on the RAW roster.

Also, Elix Skipper was Trump's limo Driver... WTF??


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-12 23:02:02


At 3/12/07 09:57 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Its been a while since somethng cool happened... But I'm pretty sure that everyone marked out when The Rock appeared on the Titantron... And he still cuts a better promo than anyone on the RAW roster.

Agreed! If only he could come back for another small run. RAW ratings would likely sore, and we'd get a good overall product for more than just Wrestlemania Month! It's a win-win! ^_^

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-12 23:42:37


Sorry for the double-post, but how about that anti-climactic finish? Vince could have at least gone through the table. Would have a gotten a much bigger pop.

For some reason, its always good to see Vince go through a table.

Kinda like this...

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-12 23:48:04


At 3/12/07 11:42 PM, Zornkatzu wrote: Sorry for the double-post, but how about that anti-climactic finish? Vince could have at least gone through the table. Would have a gotten a much bigger pop.

More like straight up garbage... RAW went for almost an extra half hour and we get a shove... Hell, Torrie vs Melina was the main event. It had its good moments, but overall RAW was bad tonight.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-13 00:03:56


At 3/12/07 11:48 PM, pepeatumi wrote: More like straight up garbage... RAW went for almost an extra half hour and we get a shove... Hell, Torrie vs Melina was the main event. It had its good moments, but overall RAW was bad tonight.

Absolutely agreed. They could have at least given Vince some heel heat by having him simply walk away from Trump. Even that would have been better than the shove-of-death we saw tonight.

Come on, WWE Creative! I just complemented you a few posts ago, and THIS is how you thank me?!


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-13 00:13:05


I didn't start watching RAW until 11pm due to homework overload... And It was lame... But Stone Cold was so funny. He made both Donald and Mcmahon look like idiots.

As for the rock... I saw that clip on WWE.com. It was cool..

But the funny thing is... Stone Cold and The Rock are used to help boost this match into being some big deal of a match... Umaga and Lashley don't have the skills to do this.

Would be nice if the Rock came back, but it will most likely never happen... his movies aren't good at all... he was meant to be a wrestler... but since he's made so much money and he wants to spend more time with his family... he'll never come back.

That little add on where trump called vince back to the ring just to push him was very lame... I doubt vince will ever lay a hand on trump even though he says he will all the time.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-13 03:48:02


I think the biggest reason creative and the shows are picking up is because the crutch of Triple H has been removed and now new guys HAVE to be pushed to the top so it's making guys hope that they can cement their position before Hunter gets back and tries to knock them down and make everything about him and his storylines again. WWE has definitely been doing a good job of building Mania, and while I personally could care less about the "Battle of the Billionares" (which is a misnomer in and of itself because Vince ISN'T a billionare anymore) it should hopefully at least make Umaga and Lashley look like monster stars in front of the casual crowd, WWE needs that badly right now.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-13 05:00:35


Wrestlemania would soar in buys if the reps were Stone Cold and the Rock.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-13 07:34:29


At 3/10/07 08:24 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote:
At 3/10/07 04:22 AM, iscrulz wrote: When did lil bastard get his name Hornswaggle.
At No Way Out I think. Personally I think the name Hornswoggle sucks more than Dale Winton at a vacuum shop.

Oh I thought it was last SD. I am upn-wb executives didnt like Cole saying lil bastard I think censored it censored it, like they do even for ass, bitch and damn.

At 3/10/07 11:10 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: apparently the name "little bastard" wasn't good enough, or maybe there were complaints. Personally I don't think the character is needed at all. Seems a bit degrading, but at least it hasn't gotten too much worse for Finley.

Yes they should get rid of Hornswaggle. But I think the name rules more than SLJ in a ruler store.

At 3/11/07 12:33 AM, YoinK wrote: That really sucks that they changed his name from Little bastard to Hornswoggle... Little Bastard is such a cool name.... Hornswoggle is very lame of a name.

What jiggor the name is perfect.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-13 08:26:33


Figures. I miss one Raw and the Rock shows up. But after reading the results I didn't miss much.

As for Rock coming back. Nah. Why should he put himeslf through the pain and all that when he could make movies? But I bet he got quite a thrill to hear the crowd go insane for him again.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-13 16:02:14


At 3/13/07 08:26 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Figures. I miss one Raw and the Rock shows up. But after reading the results I didn't miss much.

As for Rock coming back. Nah. Why should he put himeslf through the pain and all that when he could make movies? But I bet he got quite a thrill to hear the crowd go insane for him again.

well the rock obviously misses the WWE if me made such a promo. I mean.. Stone cold always says that he comes back because he's hooked on it... maybe it's the same for the rock.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-13 16:58:38


It was awesome to see the Rock back on Raw, even though it was just a promo. He was my favorite back when I was younger. Did anyone see the lazer pointer on Trump's face?


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-14 02:11:29


At 3/13/07 04:58 PM, boloneyman wrote: It was awesome to see the Rock back on Raw, even though it was just a promo. He was my favorite back when I was younger. Did anyone see the lazer pointer on Trump's face?

Yeah I noticed that too and had to think "wonder if Trump is REALLY regretting this whole thing now?". That segment at the end went WAY too long, and frankly, the focus here should be getting Lashley and Umaga over, not Vince and Trump.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-14 06:59:48


The focus should have always been on the performers but instead it always has to be about vince..

The thing about this angle is that there is nothing to relate to. It's a battle of billionares, guys so rich they can afford to hire someone else to do their fighting. Is anyone here a billionare? No? Well same here, so how in the world are we supposed to identify with it? Austin's character worked so well because we could all find a little but of that in ourselves. Same with the Rock. Having characters we can relate to is crutial but it keeps on getting ignored.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-14 16:29:50


All Japan Pro Wrestling has just established a working relationship with TNA. Read below for the whole story.

Source: ajpw.puroresufan.com.

As we all know, the Great MUTA was on hand at TNA's "Destination X" PPV last sunday. Well, after the show, both All Japan and TNA agreed on a business tie-up. TNA's President, Dixie Carter, along with Managing Directors, Andy Carter and Jeff Jarrett came to an agreement with All Japan President, Keiji Muto, and Director Masayuki Uchida that will have both organizations in a talent exchange, and was announced officially from TNA's Orlando offices.

Keiji Muto inspected the convention and said that TNA's level was high, and that he already had wrestlers in mind that he would like to see in All Japan rings, and had a set of wrestlers he was ready to send over to TNA as well. Muto also got the opportunity to take two pictures with Kurt Angle (who wrestled on New Japan Pro Wrestling's 2/18 Sumo Hall event), with the two demonstrating a good relationship very early.

With Simon Inoki expressing his wishes to rid New Japan Pro Wrestling of their relationship with TNA, and eventually resigning as New Japan's president, Muto jumped at the chance, and it paid off.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2007-03-14 18:13:44


I would like to join this club.

I like wrestling alot, i rather like TNA than WWE , but i like both very much, my favourite wrestler is Jeff Hardy , and me and my friends have our own wrestling thing goin' on, Called ITW ( icelandic Trampoline Wrestling) If you wanna see some click my sig pic, i'm usually im a spiked hat.


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