At 11/28/06 04:00 PM, pepeatumi wrote: The way I see it, its a lose-lose situation for the WWE. Either you let Cena end Umaga's undefeated streak, thus throwing away all the wotk they put into that, or they let Umaga beat Cena and win the WWE title, which is something that not a lot of people want to see.

My guess is that they'll put the title on the line in some place minor, and do a DQ finish to keep both sides happy.

A lot of news to get to from WWE and TNA.

Vince McMahon wants WWE ratings to improve, and there is a movement to differentiate RAW and Smackdown. RAW would return to its 90's style of being edgy, while Smackdown is being pushed towards a more 80's style.

Could it be? Has Vince realized that his product is crap? I'm hoping he did, and that things change for the better.

Word is that Flair is taking some time off. to finish the divorce proccedings from his second wife. That explains the whole angle last night with Flair getting beat up.

When WWE signed Monty Brown, Paul Heyman pushed for him to be on ECW. There is no word on where he'll wind up...

If someone can make something out of Monty Brown its definitely Paul Heyman, but with Lashley already in ECW, I think Brown will go to Smackdown.

"The Marine" opened number one in Puerto Rico doing $233,173 in its first weekend on the Island.

This isn't really news.... But I did not go or plan to go to see this movie.

More Cena news, as TNA continues to take shots at the WWE.

TNAwrestling.com is advertising that Ron Killings will have a message for John Cena next week on their website.... Russo isn't going to stop until everyone on the TNA roster takes a shot at someone from the WWE... At least it seems that way.

At 11/28/06 05:54 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Vince McMahon wants WWE ratings to improve, and there is a movement to differentiate RAW and Smackdown. RAW would return to its 90's style of being edgy, while Smackdown is being pushed towards a more 80's style.

So sort of more an Attitude era again? Smackdown 80s style...Hmm. Sounds intresting.

Could it be? Has Vince realized that his product is crap? I'm hoping he did, and that things change for the better.

That new theme song is growing on me. Then again, the idea of getting AIDS is also growing on me at the same time.

Word is that Flair is taking some time off. to finish the divorce proccedings from his second wife. That explains the whole angle last night with Flair getting beat up.

Poor Flair. Hope things go better.

When WWE signed Monty Brown, Paul Heyman pushed for him to be on ECW. There is no word on where he'll wind up...

ECW needs ratings, SD is doing average, RAW has DX.

If someone can make something out of Monty Brown its definitely Paul Heyman, but with Lashley already in ECW, I think Brown will go to Smackdown.

Maybe. He can team up with MVP.

"The Marine" opened number one in Puerto Rico doing $233,173 in its first weekend on the Island.

Still not a good movie in the US.

This isn't really news.... But I did not go or plan to go to see this movie.

More Cena news, as TNA continues to take shots at the WWE.

TNAwrestling.com is advertising that Ron Killings will have a message for John Cena next week on their website.... Russo isn't going to stop until everyone on the TNA roster takes a shot at someone from the WWE... At least it seems that way.

Is TNA trying to get ratings or something? They seriously are good, but if they are trying to make it this way, RUSSO IS SCREWED

Also, where do you get this info? I get mines from Wrestling IP.

At 11/28/06 09:45 PM, Peacekid wrote:
Also, where do you get this info? I get mines from Wrestling IP.

For the most part I get it from PWinsider. They're probably the most reliable wrestling news site around.

At 11/28/06 09:50 PM, pepeatumi wrote:

At 11/28/06 09:45 PM, Peacekid wrote:
Also, where do you get this info? I get mines from Wrestling IP.

For the most part I get it from PWinsider. They're probably the most reliable wrestling news site around.

Pulse Wrestling?

I thought it was Wrestling Inside Pulse.

At 11/28/06 10:16 PM, Peacekid wrote:
I thought it was Wrestling Inside Pulse.

Actually it stands for ProWrestling Insider.

So ECW has been very good so far, but there's been no other matches announced for December to Dismember... What are they doing?

And one more thing... That baseball bat wrapped in barbed-wire got a huge pop, I think he deserves a title run.

At 11/28/06 04:31 PM, StrikerMan wrote: can i join?

post again and with something to add to the conversation and the answer will be yes.

Umaga and Cena huh? I honestly don't think they'll give the title to Umaga, but I also think it's stupid to have Cena be the one to end the undefeated streak. That should go to someone WWE needs to establish, not to someone who is already the main champion. If I could chose anyone on the Raw roster that would benifit from beating Umaga would be Carlito. That could be his leap to teh main event if they booked it right.

Report Card for the go home edition of ECW On SciFi for 11/21

This show was all about pushing the PPV. Which I thought would mean a lot of gaga, little wrestling, and just quickly throwing the show together. When I saw Paul Heyman's opening segment, and then the actual card for the night, I realized we were basically just going to get a push for what's announced, and the rest would probably just be thrown together as the show happened, which is probably the best thing they can do to push it at this point. Beyond the two announced matches, I can't see them having anything else without wildly taking people from RAW and SD! to make people buy this show. Also, there will be a new section where I will recommend or not if a match is worth downloading off the Hardcore Hangover option on ECW.com. Let's get to it:

Paul Heyman opener: Man, did you get the fact that they are desperately trying to sell the Chamber? The weapons were very interesting, and I fully expect Sabu and RVD to come up with some sick way to break that table, and dent that chair. I'm really looking forward to the Chamber just because when you take Show and Test out of the equation, you have some really good (Lashley, RVD) to fantastic (Sabu, CM Punk) workers in this thing, and I think everybody is gonna bust their ass to make that match work. A pretty nice segment to open the show and hype the chamber. Grade: B

RVD over Sabu via pinfall: I drooled when they announced this...I mean...how much more classic ECW can you get then RVD and Sabu going at it? I really liked that they started off slow and traded punches, and for the most part, the spots were dead on. There were some ugly one's like they're mid-air collision, but all in all I liked what I saw, and I can't really get mad at WWE for making this one open the show, RVD and Sabu could have been in a position for that to be a match that would headline the show, but they've screwed that up themselves. I also liked that they had both men cutting a video promo before the match to put over how far they'll go to win the ECW title, it makes the belt important, which should absolutely be the focus always, but especially now. If you don't believe as a fan the ECW title is worth winning, you won't want to pay money to see guys kill themselves trying. Matches like this are the things I point to when people ask why I'm still sticking with the new ECW. Grade: A. Should you Hangover it?: Absolutely.

Hardy Boyz over Burke and Terkay: I'm sure the Hardys are loving their reunion tour here but uh...why? Aren't we just overexposing this now and making people who aren't diehard Hardy marks watch? I love MNM, but I'm not sure that sells the average fan on the show. That said though, I'm happy to see Burke and Terkay teaming here, I really like the idea of them used as a team (especially because I think ECW could absolutely benefit from a tag team division at this point), but I certainly question feeding them to the Hardys in their ECW debut. That said, it wasn't a squash, and Burkay (it's easier then saying their names seperate) got some pretty good moves in, but again, I would have protected Turkay at the least and kept the aura of monstrousness on him. The post-match beatdown by MNM may have been predictable, but sometimes the simple stuff works. Grade: B+, Should I Hangover it?: Not unless you're a big Hardys mark, since the beatdown will be recapped on the PPV, and the match itself was only average.

CM Punk over Test via submission: Well, here's my pick for the man who should win the Extreme Elimination Chamber. Mr. CM Punk, I've dreamed it, and I'm almost never wrong on this, not to mention I just feel like Punk is the guy the brand needs to carry it right now, no offense to Lashley, but I'm not sure a guy who just transferred in should be given the big ball right away, build up to the showdown of Punk vs. Lashley. Anyway, let's talk about the match itself. Started off slow because...well...that's about Test's speed. Lots of power spots, until Punk began to come back, good back and forth, I really like that Punk's matches are becoming more competitive lately, a CM Punk squash is still fun to watch, but I like the idea (especially since I fully endorse him as the next ECW Champ) that he's having some more competitive matches. The finish may not have been the most fun, but it dosen't matter because it did what it needed to, it showed that CM Punk just wants to fight, and dosen't care about the outcome. Grade: B- Should I hangover it?: Are you someone who wants to say you've seen every CM Punk match ever broadcast? If yes, then Hangover it. If not, skip this, as it was average, but nothing I think anyone should be going out of they're way to see.

Lashley over Big Show via DQ: I was really impressed to see how well Show was moving around here, I do not give a crap if you like this man or not, he is being a soldier right now, and I really hope tonight's performance was sign that with his schedule being lightened, Show is getting healthier. These two did some big man power spots, Show dominating Lashley at first, then Lashley coming back. The suplex spot was a pretty cool way to show Lashley's power, but when we've seen Show thrown from the top by Lesnar, not quite as good. Then the goons hit the ring to assault Lashley. Really didn't get anything going here, the point was just to set up Lashley as being "hurting" going into Sunday. Grade: C+ Should I Hangover?: Nah, they'll have the relevant parts in the opening PPV package, there's nothing here you really need to see.

Overall: Decent show that pushed the PPV, but I don't know if it's going to convince anyone they really need to tune in this Sunday, but I think they did their best on that score. Only one match worth watching after the fact, which isn't really great, but like I say, I think this one really has to be graded on how much they did for the PPV, and they pushed the crap out of the main event, and tried to get some heat on the Hardys and MNM's match too. Overall Grade: B

Enjoyable, but nothing to write home about.

Thanks for reading as always, this report card brought to you by Professor aviewaskewed, Professor of Extreme Studies. This report card delivered in the name of the Funker, The Sabu, and the Holy Heyman.

I have some spoilers for WWE's Armageddon PPV.

Scheduled for the WWE Smackdown Armageddon PPV is The Undertaker vs. Ken Kennedy in a Last Ride match and MVP vs. Kane in an Inferno match.

-PWinsider.com

The Last Ride match is being used for the first time since No Mercy 2004 and the Inferno Match is being used for the first time since the September 23, 1999 episode of Smackdown. Which match are you guys interested in seeing more?

Well, I think it's pretty obvious WWE is realizing they really have to pull out all the stops to get you to order Armageddon, which is the last PPV in this five week marathon. I'm still hoping that WWE realizes when the buyrates come in how badly they fucked themselves over in cramming all these shows together when there was absolutely no reason to do that (The ECW PPV could have been pushed to a less busy month next year, I appreciate they wanted two this year, but they scheduled this like friggin crap). Personally, I don't really care about the MVP character and I'm wondering why Kane is doing so many jobs at this point, Taker is getting formulaic and just yeah...I'm really at the point where I'm following the things threw the net anymore, maybe if I get a DVR or a better VCR for Christmas or something, I might actually try to tape things more since I've heard the shows are getting better.

They are bringing back the inferno match? It's kinda funny when you look at that matches history. It's billed as Kane's match but he has lost the majority of them.

WWE is running too many PPV's in my opinion. They need to cut a few of them so they will have more time to build up matches and improve the overall quality of the show.

At 11/29/06 01:57 AM, LordKooler wrote:
The Last Ride match is being used for the first time since No Mercy 2004 and the Inferno Match is being used for the first time since the September 23, 1999 episode of Smackdown. Which match are you guys interested in seeing more?

I'm looking forward to the Inferno Match, because it could mean the return of.... Masked Kane! I really don't believe that MVP will ose this match. I mean, Kane never wins an Inferno match.

Oh yeah, and another match that was announced was Batista and a partner of his choosing vs Finlay and Booker. So there will be no title defense at Armaggedon.

Who will Batista's partner be? John Cena? Monty Brown, maybe?

At 11/29/06 11:52 AM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote: Also, lol@Inferno Match returning. I know Kane never wins them, but how damn funny would it be if Morphin' Time's Power Suit caught fire?

heh yeah that would be pretty funny.

As for a partner for Batista... If Rey was around I would have gone with him, but I honestly can't think of anyone that would truly fit in this match. Benoit sounds like a good choice but I think they will put him in another match with Chavo. Lashly would also have come to mind but he's with ECW now so that takes him out.

I have some news to tell you guys.

- WWE.com reports that Candice Michelle will have surgery tomorrow to fix her deviated septum. She was injured during RAW on Monday after taking a foot to the face from Victoria.

- WWE.com reports that Subway icon Jared will be in the upcoming commercial that will feature John Cena.

- TNA has applied for trademarks of "Voodoo Kin Mafia" and "VKM".

- ECW December to Dismember still isn't sold out.

- TNAwrestling.com has a story up featuring BG James & Kip James (Voodoo Kin Mafia) publically accepting the Hardy Boyz's open challenge for the ECW December to Dismember PPV on Sunday. The article says that VKM wants the match turned into a three-way since it is currently Hardy Boyz vs. MNM. Of course, the article mentions that WWE officials have yet to respond. The chances of VKM being involved on the ECW PPV is obviously zero although TNA may have them try and show up and film whatever happens.

- Indonesia wants Smackdown banned. Click here to find out why.

May I ask what a Last Ride Match? Does have anything to do with the wrestling move? That is a shame ECW tickets aren't selling, if it was in Chicago, I would definitely try and get tickets.

At 11/29/06 04:45 PM, boloneyman wrote: May I ask what a Last Ride Match? Does have anything to do with the wrestling move?

No, you have to beat your opponent up enough to put them in the back of a hearse, which has to drive past a certain point with the opponent inside.
Similar concept to an ambulance match and the stretcher match.

Sorta off topic, but,

PWInsider: GIANT CLUSTERFUCK SITE.

I get popups from there, god.

I have some WWE news to report.

- The main event for WWE Armageddon on 12/17 is scheduled to be Batista & John Cena vs. King Booker & Finlay.

John Cena is teaming up with the person who is currently playing second fiddle to him (I will call Batista that from now on) for the first time since the October 27 episode of Smackdown.

- The Sandman vs. Hardcore Holly has been added to ECW December to Dismember.

At 11/29/06 06:40 PM, LordKooler wrote: I have some WWE news to report.

- The main event for WWE Armageddon on 12/17 is scheduled to be Batista & John Cena vs. King Booker & Finlay.

John Cena is teaming up with the person who is currently playing second fiddle to him (I will call Batista that from now on) for the first time since the October 27 episode of Smackdown.

Doesn't that just piss you off that WWE is pulling something like that. Think back in Royal Rumble 2005, John Cena got his *ss handed to him by Batista. Batista has to regain his number 1 spot back soon. Hopefully it will be soon.

In my opinion, This is the greatest Joshi (Japanese Women's Wrestling) match of all time.

Two out of Three falls match for the WWWA Tag Team Titles: Manami Toyota & Toshiyo Yamada (c) vs. Mayumi Ozaki & Dynamite Kansai, AJW Dream Rush 11/26/1992. This match has been divided into five parts.

Part 1,

Part 2,

Part 3,

Part 4,

Part 5.

Watch and enjoy the match.

At 11/29/06 06:40 PM, LordKooler wrote:
- The Sandman vs. Hardcore Holly has been added to ECW December to Dismember.

So now we have a total of three matches for DtD. I'm going tu buy it, because there's a great chance that Punk wins the ECW title (In which case I'll mark out for the first time in a long time) but for people who are unsure about the ECW brand, the writers and/or bookers have nothing to convince them that this PPV is worth buying.

You can't just depend on the EC to sell the PPV and hope that the undercard builds itself up, especially when the most reognizable wrestlers on the roster are all in the main event.

You know what I just now realized? That BG James and Kip James are now being called The Voodo Kin Mafia. Not only is it stupid but this is clearly a Russo idea. The initials of it are VKM. Now who else do we know with those initials? Why none other that Vince K. McMahon of course. And this whole this where the James guys have accepted the Hardyz challenge and want the match to be a three way... Look the whole invasion thing isn't going to work ok TNA? It is a cheap way to get a raitings boost and obviously WWE is smart enough to ignore you, and the fans are going to catch on to this rather quick and are going to get tired of it even quicker.

TNA is in trouble. They have Russo.

At 11/29/06 06:40 PM, Peacekid wrote: Sorta off topic, but,

PWInsider: GIANT CLUSTERFUCK SITE.

I get popups from there, god.

Go Elite, it starts as low as 5 bucks a month, and it's totally worth every penny.

Anybody shocked there's still floor seats available for the ECW PPV? Yes children, FLOOR SEATS!! This is what happens when you don't announce a match card and you tank the brand to the point that the loyal ECW audience who used to buy PPV's that at the end of the day were mostly sight unseen in terms of the card, don't want anything to do with it. The buyrate on this is going to suck, but I can only hope that even though the undercard will be mostly throwaway stuff it might at least be decent throwaway stuff.

At 11/29/06 06:40 PM, LordKooler wrote: - The Sandman vs. Hardcore Holly has been added to ECW December to Dismember.

Hopefully under Extreme Rules so the cane is legal and these guys can just brawl like mad, that's about the best way for them to have a good match. I still think they'd be better served having Holly come out pissed off that he isn't in the Chamber, issue an open challenge, then have Paul Heyman say that the winner will be the number 1 contender for the ECW title.

Now, I came up with all that in only a couple of minutes, what's the creative team's fucking excuse?

At 11/29/06 11:54 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:
Now, I came up with all that in only a couple of minutes, what's the creative team's fucking excuse?

Their drunk, possibly?

At 11/29/06 11:57 PM, Slapdamonkey wrote:
Their drunk, possibly?

Then those guys have been drunk for a couple of years now. The real reason, they're to busy trying to come up with "hollywood-like" storylines instead of focusing on wait for it.... WRESTLING!

Hollywood is right considering they are putting money into movies that either do so-so or bomb horribly. I think they forgot what one of those W's stand for.

The TNA “War on VKM” doesn’t jump off the page at me but that’s only my opinion. I don’t know what is really achieved at the end of the day. I cannot speak for Mr. McMahon but I would assume he could care less about what “war” may or may not be declared on him.

Those were Jim Ross words when asked about the whole VKM angle. I hope someone in TNA reads this and relays it to other people and maybe just maybe they'll realize that this is just a stupid angle and it'll be dropped.

What's that? Russo works for TNA? In that case forget it, these comments won't make a difference but it tells you just how the WWE feels about all this crap.

At 11/30/06 12:02 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Hollywood is right considering they are putting money into movies that either do so-so or bomb horribly. I think they forgot what one of those W's stand for.

You can't entirely blame it on the writers, I mean, SD! from all accounts is a good wrestling show, and that's probably because big boss don't focus on it and tell the creative crew how to do their jobs. Amazing what happens when you put a wrestling person in charge and then let writers write.

Hollywood laughs at Vince's attempts to be "the new variety show" or whatever the hell he thinks his shows are this week. I mean, when people who wrote for you write up a resume and won't put the fact that they worked for you on it...that should say a lot about the kind of shows your running, and the kind of folks you're employing. If Vince values loyalty so huge, why not hire people who are...I dunno...proud to work in the business and proud to work for him? I think I'm just gonna shut up now and go back to watching Clerks 2 or it's gonna just be a huge bitter 4 a.m. rant that I don't think most of you wanna read.

I mean...there have been those who think I should quit with the long winded posts...conspicous by their abscence, aren't they? ; )

At 11/30/06 04:02 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

I mean...there have been those who think I should quit with the long winded posts...conspicous by their abscence, aren't they? ; )

Rants have been a part of this club for as long as I can remember so why stop now?