Hello, yea I know I don't post here alot. I'm not on newgrounds as often as I used to be. I just wanted to interest any of you to my New fourm. Yes there's only so little members because it's New. That's why I need to whore it to get members.I'd like it if I had some more members before I have to move to my new house on the 29th.

It's not just a wrestling fourm you can talk of anything you'd like. Alright, now I'm going Off topic. anyways the link is in my sig and my profile. Thanks.

Now to stay on topic Cena Is getting better and I'm starting to stomach him easier now, since I've gotten really bored of his title run. Any word on what's going on with Benoit?

At 7/13/06 04:12 AM, ref wrote:

Now to stay on topic Cena Is getting better and I'm starting to stomach him easier now, since I've gotten really bored of his title run. Any word on what's going on with Benoit?

Injured

I think that is just a storyline to let him have some time off. Had wwe not cancelled it, he was going to have a match with Dean Malinko at ONS2. That would have been an awesome match.

Speaking of ONS2, I got the DVD yesterday at BestBuy and it had the Barely legal PPV with it, so it's not just walmart. I think getting two PPV's like that is a great idea, it gives more incentive to get these DVD's.

I could beat you all at wrestling without breaking a sweat

The five moves of domm isn't spreading, that's always existed. Like Redangleprince said HBK and Cena do it, Bret Hart had his own five moves of dooms, but the difference is that seems to only be able to perform those five moves, while HBK and HArt could always use something new.

ANd Punk's finisher is called The Pepsi Plunge and its nothing more than a Pedigree from the top rope.

I have to agree with most everything Red said in his rant. I'm glad to see Paul E. on television cutting promos, but as bizarre as his was, I'm not sure what WWE is doing with him...any real ECW fan (and this is one time I'm going to disagree with the internet in the way they've tried to say ECW fans aren't still watching, we are, there's plenty of evidence to prove that) is not going to be able to bring themself to boo Paul, as they know his voice is perhaps the only one in the back that has any chance of making the product ever feel like ECW.

I also really hope that we won't be seeing any more RAW guys imported to fight for the ECW title. Yes, Big Show and ECW got something out of it I think, but in the end? It was about showing Flair could hang in a hardcore bout, and trying to use another show's TV time to promote a feud they get nothing out of.

SD! Is just fucked these days...from B show to C show...it's sad really, they still have some great talents over there that I can only hope get moved off to another brand where they won't be abused, Rey I'm looking at you chiefly buddy.

At 7/13/06 07:05 PM, pepeatumi wrote: The five moves of domm isn't spreading, that's always existed. Like Redangleprince said HBK and Cena do it, Bret Hart had his own five moves of dooms, but the difference is that seems to only be able to perform those five moves, while HBK and HArt could always use something new.

He's right, everybody has some spots that are repetitive. Ric Flair did some rather extensive bitching in his book about who he thought were repetitive, or worthless in the ring (nevermind that Ric himself has some repetitive spots he always gets in). The fact is that everybody wants to get in the stuff that they do best, especially in a TV match. Since most people only get maybe ten minutes including entrances, your not actually having a match, you're basically running a commercial of what you can do and why people should give a fuck about you, so of course that isn't the time your going to get experimental, try new things, or whatever. Now in the BIGGER bouts, well, the explanation there other then guys just choosing to be repetitive is how micro-managed the wrestlers are now, that they may in fact be being told what sequences to do, when to do it, or are simply told to make sure to get certain moves into a match, and when they consider the time they have, they just wind up using them as a finishing sequence.

ANd Punk's finisher is called The Pepsi Plunge and its nothing more than a Pedigree from the top rope.

Yeah, we won't be seeing that any time soon I don't think. The house show reports have him using the Anaconda Vice submission hold as his finisher.

At 7/11/06 04:42 PM, PhagetheGreat wrote: BRING BACK THE HURT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After looking at both of your posts, you should be banned for annoying all capitalized posts.

I want to see the Big Show fight The Great Khali. Right now.

OK, OK, OK... Rhyno burning the "belt" that for all we know was just a bag full of trash, its happened before and whatnot but first of all let me say... for a guy who doesn't care or miss ECW, Rhyno sure does care a lot about the new ECW... my advice stop bitching about it!!

Now, with that said this is just me talking crazy over here but that Rhyno promo just seemed to... Mcmahon-like for my tastes. What I mean is VInce has a lot of money, al ot of money and I remember years ago where he did a "feud" with ECW in which Sabu along with some other ECW wrestlers showed up on RAW and Sabu actually jumped from the titantron, and I can't help but feel that maybe Vince was in on this, like I said Vince has a lot of money and he can influence a lot of people. Again I'm just talking about a possible work, but I don't know that Rhyno promo just felt.. forced almost.

Thankyou RHINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!
GORE GORE GORE!!!!!!!

At 7/13/06 11:15 PM, pepeatumi wrote: OK, OK, OK... Rhyno burning the "belt" that for all we know was just a bag full of trash, its happened before and whatnot but first of all let me say... for a guy who doesn't care or miss ECW, Rhyno sure does care a lot about the new ECW... my advice stop bitching about it!!

My advice to you, STFU and stop watching that piece of shit WWE makes and calls ECW. ECW is gone and will never be what it once was. The first ONS was probably the closest we'll ever get.

At 7/13/06 11:23 PM, Champigne wrote:

My advice to you, STFU and stop watching that piece of shit WWE makes and calls ECW. ECW is gone and will never be what it once was. The first ONS was probably the closest we'll ever get.

DOo't get me wrong.. I know the old ECW is gone but the fact is that guys like the Dudleyz and Rhyno have done nothing but bitch and moan about the new ECW.. You're right and they're right the old ECW is gone and guys like the Dudleyz and Rhyno, and Shane Douglas and Raven who used to be the heart and soul of the old ECW are in TNA.. Which is why they should stop bitching and moanng about the new ECW.. the new ECW is trying to carve out their own legacy and while they may use people like The Sandman, and Dreamer and Balls Mahoney to draw in former fans, the focal point is the new guys.. like Punk. Knox, Moore and yes even Test. So I'll say it again, yeah the old ECW is dead, which is all the more reason for the Dudleyz and Rhyno to just shut up and worry about TNA.

Okay, okay whatever, though I think all matches in ECW should be hardcore, its like some little pussy version of ECW without that many good people and its in large venues and they don't even put the Sandman to good use instead he hits fat guys with a "singapore cane"? isn't it a Fucking KENDO STICK?????????????? Plus Stevie Richards hasn't a match, or C.W. Anderson, and Balls just ain't nasty without the Knobbs. You know I what a mean.......

It makes me mad how they can ruin such a good thing.

At 7/13/06 06:52 AM, SaiNT_SiLEiGHtY wrote:

At 7/13/06 04:12 AM, ref wrote:

Now to stay on topic Cena Is getting better and I'm starting to stomach him easier now, since I've gotten really bored of his title run. Any word on what's going on with Benoit?

Injured

Or should I say, indefinite sabbatical

LordKooler's TNA iMPACT! review
1.Rhino burns the ECW Heavyweight Championship
A great segment to start off iMPACT! Rhino cuts a shoot promo on Vince McMahon, WWE, and the new ECW. He talks about Vince offering him a contract to join the new ECW but he turned it down. Then he talks about being the last ECW Heavyweight Champion & Television Champion. After that, Rhino leaves the iMPACT! zone and throws the ECW Heavyweight belt in the trash and sets the trash can on fire. Remember when Madusa Micelli aka Alundra Blayze threw the WWE Women's Championship in the trash when she debuted in WCW? Imagine what it would be like if she set it on fire after throwing it in the trash.
2.Abyss vs Norman Smiley
Abyss squashed Smiley at the end. Then the James Gang come out and the crowd chanted "DX Rejects!" Speaking of D-Generation X, When are they getting a shot at the WWE World Tag Team Championship? BG James makes a deal with Jim Mitchell & Abyss at the end.
3.Senshi (Low Ki) vs Jerrelle Clark
Senshi squashes Jerrelle Clark at the end.
4.AJ Styles & Christopher Daniels vs Paparazzi Productions
Jamie Dauncey finally gets a ring name in TNA. They're calling her Sirelda. That sounds like a stupid name. Styles & Daniels won at the end. Then America's Most Wanted, Gail Kim, and Sirelda get involved.
5.Team Canada vs Team 3D & Rhino & Jay Lethal
Team 3D, Jay Lethal, and Rhino won at the end. Team Canada lost the match and they've officialy broken up.

I didn't see the segment, but I can just imagine how I'm going to feel when I do. TNA can kiss my mother fucking ass. Seriously, they can kiss my ass, TNA wants so badly to be ECW they can taste it. I have watched TNA over and over again try to be "cool" and "edgy" by taking pot shots at Vince, and now take shots at the rebirthed ECW. Hey, TNA! Worry about your own fucking product! Do you think Vince gives three shits about you? You're fucking amateur hour to him, not to mention most of the goddamn talent your devoting your TV time to is guys he cast off. That's not an indictment on anyone's talents or lack thereof by the by, I'm just stating general fact. The last...oh at least 3 NWA champions have formerly worked for Vince (Raven, Jarrett, Christian), so you know what? Who the hell is TNA to keep calling Vince stupid, or whatever, because they have certainly profited from picking his trash.

As to Rhino, man, what the fuck?! You claim to love the old ECW, you claim to have been in denial when it died? So you decide the best way to show your love for ECW, and disdain for the new product is to set the old belt (which I highly doubt it was, but let's go with the symbolism here) on fire? Oh bravo, way to show your love and respect the promotion and the guy who MADE YOUR FUCKING ASS WORTH SOMETHING!!! This was not about protest, or making a statement, this was a disrespectful cash grab in the mold of...oh right, when ECW threw the NWA title down. TNA wanted a water cooler moment, wanted to get people talking about them, but I think all they'll really accomplish is alienating people like me away from their product, and away from guys we've supported for so long. I'm also sick of the ECW alumni in TNA talking shit on Vince and the new ECW, for all that talk of "I'll never work there and blah blah" hey, if TNA folds, who's door you gonna be knocking on? If Vince sends you a check fat enough, and makes you believe you'll be pushed to the moon, where are you going to go? Yep, right back to Vince and the new ECW I'd bet.

Wrestling is a business of bullshit, I'm well aware of that, I tolerate it, you have to if you want to be able to watch it for any period of time. But to me, TNA has had the ECW contigent within their locker room shoveling so much disingenuous bullshit for so many weeks now, culminating in an act of supreme disrespect, that I'm just disgusted with the company right now to have witnessed and read about these actions. It's stupid, it's amateurish, and it's copying ideas and concepts that were done earlier, and better, by somebody else. But that's the mainstream right now, everything is dirivitive, nothing is fucking original, and if you're not willing to except that we have some truly burnt out, untalented, or just apathetic people behind the creative buttons of the major companies...well, what the hell are you still doing watching this? Things won't change anytime soon.

Shame on TNA, and shame on Rhino. As I said, I have only read reports of the segment, I fully intend to watch it Saturday for myself, but I highly doubt my feelings wil change. If they do, I shall post a retraction to my statement here, but as I said, I don't think I'm going to be inclined to do so.

At 7/14/06 12:18 AM, Champigne wrote: they don't even put the Sandman to good use instead he hits fat guys with a "singapore cane"? isn't it a Fucking KENDO STICK??????????????

In ECW, when wielded by The Sandman, that weapon is, and always will be, a Singapore Cane. Considering you seem to want to bitch about how the new ECW is so unfaithful to the old, and ruining the product, and yadda, I would have expected you'd know that. Also...Balls and Knobs? The hell? Balls never worked with Brian Knobbs, do you mean Axel Rotten?

I just saw SmackDown! . It was decent, opened with an excellent match between Kennedy and Hardy. Taker makes his first appearence since Khali's match against him.

LordKooler's Friday Night SmackDown! review
1.King Booker segment
King Booker talks about Rey Mysterio and his match and the Great American Bash and then Rey Mysterio came out and both argued back and forth about the PPV.
2.Ken Kennedy vs Matt Hardy
Matt Hardy scores the upset victory at the end.
3.Great Khali segment
Daivari talks about the Undertaker and then the lights go out and Undertaker appears in the ring! Khali wanted too attack the Undertaker but Daivari held him back.
4.Jamie Noble vs Paul London
Jamie Noble won with help from Kid Kash. The Pitbulls will face London & Kendrick for the Tag Team Titles at Great American Bash.
5.Batista vs Mark Henry contract signing
I think that Melina's sexual harassment lawsuit was one of the main reasons why Batista got injured because nine days after that storyline lawsuit Batista tore his right tricep in a match against Mark Henry on January 8, 2006. What would it be like if Melina's sexual harassment storyline lasted longer? This was just your regular contract signing.
6.Finlay vs Lashley
Finlay won the US Title at the end with help from the Little Bastard.
7.Diva Search Boot Camp segment
The Miz is so fucking annoying. I hate it when he says "Hoo-Rah!" I would mark out hard if he got irish whipped into Exploding Barbed Wire or if he got powerbombed through 10,000 flaming tables . This week's Diva Search segment is Sgt. Slaughter's Boot Camp challenge. Layla won the Boot Camp challenge. They should do segments like the Iron Sheik humbling contest where the first Diva Search contestant to make Iron Sheik humble wins, and the Lex Luger Tight T-Shirt competition where the first Diva Search contestant to succsessfully take off Lex Luger's Tight T-Shirt wins.
8.Rey Mysterio vs William Regal
Rey Mysterio won at the end.

Smackdown was great. I love Jen who held up that U of M head band. It's great because I live in Minnesota myself! Although, I didn't go to the show this time when it came to Minneapolis on Tuesday. Dang.

Here's something interesting from Joey Style's MEP column on ECW.com:

-Speaking of which, I thought Heyman's declaration of himself as ECW's "martyr, savior and messiah," sans stigmata, was too religious for my good taste. Besides, the Backlash pay-per-view buy rate proved once again that religion and wrestling will not fill the collection plates at the box office window. Of course, I am not allowed to say something like that on television. Actually, you fans would be shocked to find out what I am not allowed to say on television these days.

Until next week, I am Joey Styles, unedited, uncensored and unafraid.

I've heard some reports that Styles and Vince have once again been clashing over the way Styles calls matches. Apparently even in the new ECW Vince does not want Joey calling the bouts as athletic contests, but "telling stories" instead. Personally, I fucking hate that approach, and Joey became the best announcer in the business during his time with ECW (in my humble opinion) BECAUSE he took the matches and the wrestlers seriously, the idea that we were watching competition added to the match, and the athletes involved. Vince's ideas have made commentary something that I find distracting and useless since it usually means the bouts don't matter as much.

So what you are saying is that Vince dose not want Styles to do his commentary like he would about something athletic and competitive, even though wrestling is just that. Sure the endings are pre-determined, but fans don't care about that and want to belive that it indeed is. Thats part of the fun of it. And athletic? Do I really need to give an explanation on how hard some of these guys work? What the hell is wrong about giving some credit where credit is due?

Vince needs to back the hell off and stop trying to fix what isn't broken.

At 7/12/06 07:05 AM, madknt wrote: hulk hogan was never a good wrestler, but the crowd loves him.
he is entertainment, not wrestling..
dont question how he wins, or why..
just enjoy it.

It is sad that the fans are still living in the past. How can an 52-years-old man get so popular since the leg drop is his exclusive move? Let me as k you guys a question: will you guys still a match if you know that an old man is going to win with 1 move? Trust me, the Orton, hogan feud will blow because of Hogan's ego.

I've never been a big fan of Hogan, but many people are, and he has attained a transcendent popularity. Not to mention in times like now, I think a lot of fans love to find something that reminds them of better days in the business to root for.

I truly hate randy orton. He picks on old people.

Well, I actually enjoyed Saturday Night's Main Event. Minus the main event, considering that I called all of the Five Moves of Doom on cue. And for a moment, I shit my pants thinking Cena won the belt back. Really, I ....didn't. I'm just ribbing you guys. But, I almost did. And, that, is a fact.

Now, since thats been said, what'd everyone else think about it?

This is from ECW.com:

Dreamer's Diary of Violence suspended
June 15, 2006

Due to recent events in ECW and on ECW.com, Tommy Dreamer's Diary of Violence has been suspended until further notice.

I predict Joey Styles is next, guess they don't like honesty on that site, it is a WWE production after all.

As for SNME, from what I saw, it was a pretty good show, though I only saw about 40 minutes of it. I did like what I saw, but as usual, my interest tends to start and stop when ECW matches show up. Big Show vs. Taker has the potential to be an even bigger put over of Show and the ECW title then the Flair match last week, two things that need to be done:

1. Extreme Rules, so we can have no cop outs, and no BS results like a DQ or a countout, plus the ECW title should never be defended on an ECW show under normal rules.

2. Taker jobs CLEAN. Honestly, the Undertaker character is bullet proof I feel, and Big Show and ECW can really use that rub of being able to get a win on Taker. No one is really going to care, and Taker will get his heat back by whooping Khali at the Bash.

I'm doubting any of that will happen, but also doubted Flair would be jobbed clean, and was pleasently surprised there...but this IS Taker we're talking about. Hopefully both Taker and WWE do the right thing in this one. But I'm doubting they will.

The only reason for watching smackdown is Finlay.

ECW sucks hard now that Heyman & Dreamer have no creative control.

RVD & Sabu are lucky they still have jobs as well.

From WWE.com:

Mark Henry was injured in the Six-Man Tag Team Match at Saturday Night’s Main Event. He is currently diagnosed with a fractured patella and a possible patella tendon rupture.

If the diagnosis holds up, Henry is due to have surgery later this week with Dr. James Andrews.

WWE Dr. Ferdinand Rios says that the amount of time Henry will miss because of the injury will not be determined until he can be more extensively examined on Monday by Dr. Andrews.

Due to the injury, Henry will not be at the Great American Bash press conference on this Monday in Indianapolis.

Tune in to Friday Night SmackDown to find out what will happen with Henry's scheduled match against Batista at The Great American Bash.

Even if I don't like the guy, I can never wish an injury on anyone. Hope he recovers well.

At 7/16/06 09:03 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Henry Injured

Dammit, I was hoping for a Batista-Henry match at Summerslam.
Oh well, I guess Batista is now the number 1 contender. Since he and Booker had a tiff a while back, possible match?

WWE are rnowned for using real life situations into storylines!