Well, I saw raw, pretty boring if you ask me. Somewhat entertaining though. I don't really like Cena either, and I do kind of like Angle, but I'm not on any sides really. as for Matt Hardy and Edge, I like the story line alot, and hope for the fact of the story line, that Matt Hardy wins, cause I really get into good story line plots that I like. The big show is just for entertainment now, and he's kind of out of the big time now.

At 9/26/05 11:05 PM, -Ubermensch- wrote: Can any fellow canucks clue me in?

They did it in the U.S. too, everywhere really, they edited it every time until about the last half hour of programming when they seemed to finally tap out and acquiesce to the move being plugged openly on the air.

Oh, another big thing on RAW was Teddy Long announcing that Smackdown superstars were going to contribute to the homecoming just for the one night as well. The thought of Rey Mysterio on RAW, even for one night, makes me ever so joyful.

At 9/26/05 11:06 PM, DuMa_RyoHahn wrote: Folks I have to tell you. I shit myself with joy when angle hit the angle slam on Cena. I mean what I say is very true. Cena is a hardcore wigger. just look at when he was talking to bischoff, I swear it is like if he keeps it up his skinmay actually turn a few shades darker. But the highlight of the night was when angle picked up that super wigger and slammed his ass through that table. I have a tear in my eye that was so good

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It is always to see Cena got his ass beaten up. By thec way, Angle will defeat HBK to be the number one contender again. :D

At 9/27/05 01:01 AM, Dream_of_Duke wrote:

At 9/26/05 11:06 PM, DuMa_RyoHahn wrote: Folks I have to tell you. I shit myself with joy when angle hit the angle slam on Cena. I mean what I say is very true. Cena is a hardcore wigger. just look at when he was talking to bischoff, I swear it is like if he keeps it up his skinmay actually turn a few shades darker. But the highlight of the night was when angle picked up that super wigger and slammed his ass through that table. I have a tear in my eye that was so good

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It is always to see Cena got his ass beaten up. By thec way, Angle will defeat HBK to be the number one contender again. :D

I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Angle's victories are usually tap-outs, and this isn't a match that can be won by submission (unless I'm misunderstanding the rules of Ironman).

At 9/27/05 01:27 AM, cornontheconn wrote: I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Angle's victories are usually tap-outs, and this isn't a match that can be won by submission (unless I'm misunderstanding the rules of Ironman).

If you think submissions don't count? Yeah, you misunderstood.

An Iron Man match is a match which goes a certain time limit (usually an hour), it MUST go the time limit, and you can lose by pinfall, submission, disqualification, or countout. The winner is the guy with the most decisions in his favor at the end of the time limit.

Ah, ok. I'm still going with HBK.

Nah they will give it to angle. HBK has been in teh spotlight and with the return of HHH they may want to try another fued with them since that seems to make a buck or two.

hate to double post but here it si. for those of you who did not see it or who (like me) want to relive it. here is teh vid of angle putting cena through teh table

http://www.wwe.com/c..6/r92605bischoffbelt

I want to say that was the move of the night, but since I only saw that match I really don't know if there was anything better.

So next week we get TNA on Spike, Raw back on the USA network, as well as it being an extral hour longer since it will start at eight. so next week looks to be a good week for us. you said TNA is on saturday's at 11 right? so it's not techniclally going to be a monday night war again, but hey, it's still something.

At 9/27/05 01:27 AM, cornontheconn wrote: I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Angle's victories are usually tap-outs, and this isn't a match that can be won by submission (unless I'm misunderstanding the rules of Ironman).

Yeh, maybe you're thinking of a last-man standing match? They can only be won by the person being layed ut for a ten-count.

At 9/27/05 07:22 AM, DuMa_RyoHahn wrote: Nah they will give it to angle. HBK has been in teh spotlight and with the return of HHH they may want to try another fued with them since that seems to make a buck or two.

The way i see it is:
HBK fought Masters
Masters attacked Flair
Flair is going to be involved with HHH some way or another.
HHH is one of HBK's biggest enemies on Raw.
So i think they will use those factors above to turn it into a big storyline with HBK, Flair and HHH.
Maybe even with Masters (New members of evolution anone?)

I think they made Angle and HBKs 3rd match an Iron man match to go up against TNAs
X division Iron man match at Bound for glory

AJ styles vs The Fallen Angel for the Xdivision title
Its gonna be a classic

Ok, I understand that most people dont like Cena here. Well, lemme tell ya that im a personally big fan of the champ. BUT, he has some flaws. One, he uses the same damn manuvers every match. Two, even when the odds are against him, he always pulls a counter out of his ass and gets the win unrealistcally. And three, DuMa is right here. This is basically the whole Stone Cold/Vince beef all over again. Now about RAW...Trish defended the title against Victoria and next week on homecoming, a bra and panties match! Two on three, at that. Finally, Murdock and Cade lost! I hate those guys. Rednecks make me sick. Good thing Val and Viscera had the win anyways, cuz that really fucked the world tag team champs reputations. However, that street fight between Big Show and Snitsky was predictable,...cept the part with the kitchen sink. I didnt see that one coming.
Now about Eugene and Conway. What an ass! Conway was vicious to Eugene's HBK teddy bear. Poor Eugene was bawling his ass off in the ring afterwards. I actually wanna start chanting for him now on. First the gold medal, then his cheerleader(Christy Hemme, mind you), and now his teddy bear! What now? But I got other things to cover. Like the table match. Well, kids, I learned something when I see Cena wrestle. A week before a title match, he always gets beat up like a bitch. Then, next week, he gets the F-U and makes all the fans so happy that he defended his title. Exactly whats gonna happen next week. Now about Teddy Long's statement. Who will come over to RAW? Well, let me rap this up first and I'll explain what i think will happen. In another post of course. Did anyone catch what Spike TV blocked out on RAW? I'd be happy to find out. This is part one of StevensA's opinion tonight.

StevensA's opinion on the WWE (part two)

Well, I'm gonna make this quick. I hope that on Homecoming that the SD tag team champs Hiedenrich and Road Warrior Animal, aka: LOD, take on Murdock and Cade. Id love to see LOD whip their redneck asses all over the place. But I'd also like Benoit and Bastista come back too. Rey, well, I dunno. Now before I go, I would like to share something. I heard someone say that Cena's F-U is nothing more than a Death Valley Driver. Whoever said that is absolutely correct. If anyone owns a copy of Smackdown vs. RAW for the ps2, you use that as your finisher,and see that the WWE just named it cleverly to fit Cena's personality(a "gangster"). Gee, I'm so gangster if I live in West Materbury, Massachusetts. But just cuz I think Cena is awesome, doesnt mean he'll be champ for long. Probably Triple H, HBK, Angle, or Matt Hardy will be the next WWE champ. Thats if Matt wins that ladder match. Well, there's always SD to review. StevensA said all he's gonna say. In the words of Teddy Long,"Holla playa!".

At 9/27/05 01:50 AM, cornontheconn wrote: Ah, ok. I'm still going with HBK.

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It won't happen. There needs to be a heel in the wwe tittle match.

not all teh time. There have been a few face vs. face type matches. Actually I think a heel vs heel title match would be kinda cool.

You know what I would like SD! to do on this show? Have a tag team title in which they finally switch the belts match. Am I the only one that hates the idea of the World tag titles on the show with the WWE Champion, and vice versa? It seems needlessly confusing to me, and I think they need to figure out a way for the Road Hedies to take the World Tag belts back to SD! and leave the WWE belts on the Cowboys. Just my insane suggestion.

I'd rather see a SD vs RAW all star melee. Like, 9 on 9 or something.

At 9/27/05 11:56 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: You know what I would like SD! to do on this show? Have a tag team title in which they finally switch the belts match.

ah but you see that involes logic, and since when have they been known for that?

Where has Kane been I wonder. I guess the have no idea what to do with him now. Perhaps his character has finally run it's course. But really thats more of the writers fault and not his.

an all star matchup would be pretty cool. Who would you want on the teams?

Where has Kane been I wonder. I guess the have no idea what to do with him now. Perhaps his character has finally run it's course. But really thats more of the writers fault and not his.

I thought Kane was in Jail for what he did to Lita
ofcourse thats just story line he's probery taking a brake

At 9/27/05 08:36 PM, StevensA wrote: Did anyone catch what Spike TV blocked out on RAW? I'd be happy to find out. This is part one of StevensA's opinion tonight.

They blocked this.

so it was just spike getting rid of him saying USA network..

What I find kinda funny is that not too long ago Vince was one of the biggest and most hated heels ever, and now people do that bow thing for him each time he shows up. I notice they do that for Flair too which is just fine.

At 9/28/05 01:21 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: Where has Kane been I wonder. I guess the have no idea what to do with him now. Perhaps his character has finally run it's course. But really thats more of the writers fault and not his.

Well, you see, Kane got screwed over by craetive who made him a one storyline person, which was with him and lita When they brought Matt back, they panicked and thought, holy shit, Edge has no team mates, and he has two rivals. So they threw the crapper one off the show and is now without a storyline. The same would have happened to matt if they werent going to get rid of him now.
I say that they should make kane have another horrific "accident", and put the mask back on. And make him grow hair.

an all star matchup would be pretty cool. Who would you want on the teams?

That would be the best choice, we can see SD! stars wrestle on SD!, but not with Raw superstars. They dont even mix them at PPVs, so now would be a good opportunity.
Are there any big face or heel factions on Raw and Smackdown that could fight it off?
Or maybe they could mix up the cruiserweights from both shows for a match, maybe bringing the title to raw. They could use ECW superstars from both sides and involve them in a hardcore match.
It will probably end up as some crappy tag match between Rey and Batista, and Eddie and Christian or someting.

At 9/27/05 11:56 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: You know what I would like SD! to do on this show? Have a tag team title in which they finally switch the belts match. Am I the only one that hates the idea of the World tag titles on the show with the WWE Champion, and vice versa? It seems needlessly confusing to me, and I think they need to figure out a way for the Road Hedies to take the World Tag belts back to SD! and leave the WWE belts on the Cowboys. Just my insane suggestion.

But the whc and wwe tag belts are the new ones so keep them on Sd. The wwe was the undisputed title and world tag belts I think are from wcw if so what happened to the wwf/e tag. So raw should get those titles.

when you really think about it, we should just be thankful they decided to keep tag belts in the first place. remember when they decided to get rid of all the titles cept for the main one and the cruiser? When the IC belt got combined withe the title, it waws the worst freakin move they could have done. I was so happy when they brought it back.

Well on WWE.com they making a big stink about teh fact that spike censored USA mentions. the wwe asked spike why and all spike said was "we had a great time and we wish you well" Of course spike is gonna censor it. Imean come on people why would you give free advertising to another network that is going to take viewers away? Well the good news is that TNA is this saturday. that is right folks. 3 days from now we will be able to see what true wrestling looks like

At 9/28/05 01:21 AM, Outlaw88 wrote:

At 9/27/05 11:56 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: You know what I would like SD! to do on this show? Have a tag team title in which they finally switch the belts match.

ah but you see that involes logic, and since when have they been known for that?

Where has Kane been I wonder. I guess the have no idea what to do with him now. Perhaps his character has finally run it's course. But really thats more of the writers fault and not his.

an all star matchup would be pretty cool. Who would you want on the teams?

For an all-star matchup, not sure. I don't know if a face vs face or heel vs heel would be too exciting, because the crowd wouldn't know who to root for. If it were strictly heel vs. face, then which brand would have to be the heel side, and which the face?

Some interesting news. From now on, Heat and Velocity will be shown only on the internet. Not sure if this is good or bad, but the only thing I can think of is that they might keep the vids around a while after the live broadcast in case anyone misses the show, and they might even make them longer. This would be even better if they did the shows without any commercials.

Sweaty men fondling each other?

hawt

OK first off, I just watched the Ultimate Warrior DVD and I must say this thing is a must buy for any wrestling fan. No matter which side of the story you believe (WWE or Warriors) it is a well done documentory. The only thing I can complain about is the fact that the Warrior is not on the thing to defend himself, but if you go to his website you can read his response, it's long but its worth the time. All right then this might be a little off the wall but does anyone remember when Jeff Jarret wrestled William Shatner? I was only like 13 or 14 when it went down so it was awhile ago. I fell asleep during the match and never got to see what happened. If someone could fill me in I would appreciate it.