An interesting idea...I don't think Rock would do that though..He would want to come back and wrestle for a bit then leave again.

But a suitable replacement for king can get you thinking. Al Snow is a good canidate, but do you think any of the other less used wrestlers could be good commentators?

If his wrestling career stopped Stevie could do it but that does not seem likely now...

This would not have to be limited to the roster, outside wrestlers could fill in..and there's always Paul Heyman!

At 10/14/03 01:14 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: But a suitable replacement for king can get you thinking. Al Snow is a good canidate, but do you think any of the other less used wrestlers could be good commentators?

If his wrestling career stopped Stevie could do it but that does not seem likely now...

This would not have to be limited to the roster, outside wrestlers could fill in..and there's always Paul Heyman!

I don't know about Snow, but Richards would probably do good. I wouldn't waste Heyman's talent on it, though. He needs to manage someone. What about Roody Piper? or, as long as he's injured, Edge? or maybe even Vince! He wants to be on TV anyway, this way he could without ruining his product by having it revolve around him. Jericho or Theodore Long could pull it off too.

Raven did heat for a while and did a fair job.

Piper would be a good choice..

Could someone tell me why Jericho helped Trish Stratus last night?

At 10/14/03 03:46 PM, pepeatumi wrote: Could someone tell me why Jericho helped Trish Stratus last night?

cuz Jericho is cool, and he wanted show the world that he's > Stone Cold

I just hope that Jericho doesn't become a goody two shoes.

At 10/14/03 04:11 PM, pepeatumi wrote: I just hope that Jericho doesn't become a goody two shoes.

actually, the way things are shaping up, i'd say we're going to see jericho as a face and austin as a heel.

actually, the way things are shaping up, i'd say we're going to see jericho as a face and austin as a heel.

I hope you're right I would like to see the old Stone Cold back.

I just want Jericho to be a champ agagin. He needs some gold!

here's something to wrap your minds around:
I finally watched a bit of last weeks "Byte This" with Tommy Dreamer. One email asked Tommy why he is still played as a face on TV, but a heel at houseshows (which Josh Matthews insisted be called "Nontelevised events") and which he prefered. Dreamer perfers to be a face, because he hates doing all the heel cliches (Insult the local sports team, take cheap shots, etc) Dreamer also said he is great friends with RVD, and Bubba and Spike Dudley. He also mentioned he has great respect for Ric Flair and Vince McMahon (0_o) William Regal called in and said he's "...had more ups and downs than a whore's drawers..." He commented on his heart condition, and said he feels healthier than he has in years, and he'd love to return as soon as possible, but would prefer a speaking role for the first couple of monthes.
Also, fans booed the roof off of yesterdays Smackdown taping, and at least 30 audience members walked out. What caused it? A twenty minute Stephanie McMahon interview. (Later in the show there was a Vince interview. I don't think I'll watch Smackdown tomorrow)

Oh, another thing, Dreamer said every show he preform, whether as heel or face, he gets mad cheers. (He cited the tag match of him and Richards vs. Jindrak and Cade. After the match, Jindrak challenged him to a pose off, and dispite the fact that Jindrak has the better physique, the fans went mad for Tommy, making him the clear winner. Makes you wonder why he doesn't get a push.)

I heard about that 20 min interview...its pure stupidity on WWE's side. A normal person's attention span is about 10 min and thats if the topic is interesting..You lose people if you drag something on too long. I'm a die hard fan and I'd probably leave..

it really makes you wonder about Dreamer...He's so under used but the fans love him..Why can't WWE put 2 and 2 together?

At 10/15/03 04:33 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: it really makes you wonder about Dreamer...He's so under used but the fans love him..Why can't WWE put 2 and 2 together?

If he was telling the truth, then even the slightest push would put him WAY over with the crowd. Hell, Lance Storm has only a slight push, but the cheers he gets for his little pimp dance are nuts. I say ditch the IC title, and bring back the Hardcore Title. that way they'll have NO excuse for not pushing Dreamer.

It seems that Smackdown is a huge mess even with all the talent they have.

At 10/15/03 05:14 PM, pepeatumi wrote: It seems that Smackdown is a huge mess even with all the talent they have.

Smackdown isn't that bad. They just need more talent

At 10/15/03 05:27 PM, LordKooler wrote:

At 10/15/03 05:14 PM, pepeatumi wrote: It seems that Smackdown is a huge mess even with all the talent they have.

Smackdown isn't that bad. They just need more talent

Are you kidding me? Smackdown has more than enough talent, but they keep it surpressed so they can fill it with McMahons and trying to keep Taker in the limelight. Thats what makes Smackdown a godawful show.

I've been reading about that 20 minute interview..Seems everyone in the building were booing, and chanting "We want wrestling!" and of course the famous "Boring" chant.

If this isn't an indication that the Vince needs to get him and his family...(except Shane..maybe) off the tv and push what people paid to see than I don't know what is.

if you ask me, the problem with the WWE is the guys at the top. I'm talking about Vince McMahon, Stone Cold, Triple H, Goldberg and the Undertaker. These guys have a stranglehold on the top and all five should be eternally removed from wrestling to allow other more deserving people to take top spot. (of course, techniquely the same could be said of Shawn Michaels, but he still entertains me. The others don't)

Your on to something but most of them are still a big draw so they can't afford to just ditch them. However limited and less air time could be a good idea..though the guys like HHH and Goldberg would never do that..

At 10/16/03 08:40 AM, -Rook- wrote: if you ask me, the problem with the WWE is the guys at the top. I'm talking about Vince McMahon, Stone Cold, Triple H, Goldberg and the Undertaker.

Yes Michaels is awesome there is no question or argument about it.

I still like Austin but this non-wrestling role is getting old. How much farther/longer can they draw it out?

Undertaker is done. He isnt nearly as agile as he once was and after this last run he should retire.

Vince used to be entertaining when he battled about stuff that mattered, but now its old and arbitrary. He needs to focus on the board room and writing and not his in ring time. Also he should work on brining back Heyman and not hiring "yes men" who agree to every stupid thing.....

HHH is the man. He is (along with Y2J) the most all round talented guy on RAW. The only reason no one likes him is he was overused---BUT that was because they had no one else to turn to. HHH is awesome. I cant wait till he comes back and everyone says how much they love him and how they missed him when he was gone.

Goldberg is a has been, never was, no talent, 2 dollar bottom feeding trash bag hack. He sucks, he is untalented. He brings nothing to the table. I cant stand him. They just rehashed his old angle which sucked then and it sucks now. UH-OH fear the spear!! well too bad edges spear is better..... Goldberg should be let go after his contract expires... Who the fuck wants a non-working champ? He cant carry a match like HHH, Y2J, or michaels can, He cant do an interview/promo why did they bring him in? he should be banished to the blackest corner of the world....

I agree.

Thing is no one is sure when taker will leave..he can still do many things, but time is no longer on his side..

At 10/16/03 01:45 PM, shadowmoses_sol wrote:

HHH is the man. He is (along with Y2J) the most all round talented guy on RAW. The only reason no one likes him is he was overused---BUT that was because they had no one else to turn to. HHH is awesome. I cant wait till he comes back and everyone says how much they love him and how they missed him when he was gone.

I'll admit, HHH is pretty much RAW's best guy, but like you said, he's overexposed. Its alot like Trish Stratus in the women's division. She's one of the most talented, but I hate her due to the overexposure. Maybe when HHH comes back, they can rejuvinate his image and make him cool again. I probably wouldn't mind HHH being the center of things again if the Clique got back together....
As for Goldberg, his major flaw is the book him as something he's not. I'd place Goldberg below Scott Steiner but above A-Train. Midcard at best.

Undertaker was on Byte This. One question he was asked was what he thought of some of the up and coming superstars. Taker says Orlando Jordanhas natural ability and charisma, but still has a way to go. Nathan Jones also has charisma but needs a niche in the industry. Surprisingly, he also says A-Train is close to becoming a breakthrough superstar, but he lacks that certain something that seperates midcard talent from top tier stars. He also says that the Deadman gimmick probably won't be back, as his character would need to go through something extremely traumatic to reawaken that aspect. Finally, he says that he doesn't have immediate plans to retire as he's the healthiest he's been in years.

I dont agree with Goldberg bein a mid-card preformer. He brings to the table something not very many people can do. First of all they didnt hype up Goldberg nearly as much as some other people making returns (remember how much hype there was for HHH before he came back from the lge injury), and people loved as soon as he came in. He has so much raw power in him that he impresses everyone(how many of you people were not impressed by the jackhammer on Mark Henery or any of his other huge hits like the spear on three minute warning putting one through the security wall). And after all he did go for a long time without losing, including a win for the heavyweight title in wcw, his first loss was to Kevin Nash. He is a diamond in the rough for WWE. Remember, eric thought austin would never amount to much in the WCW, look how wrong he was.

LordKooler's "Smackdown!" review
1.Kurt angle segment
It was funny, When angle comes out, He uses john cena's music and he dresses up like cena. The best part is where a midget looking like kurt came out.
I have a feeling that the kurt angle midget is gonna be on the front page of wrestlecrap.com tomorrow because the creator updates the site every friday.
2.Chris benoit vs Doug basham
A very boring match.
3.Stephanie mcmahon interview
Very emotional, Stephanie cries throughout the interview. Then stephanie is asked if she loves or hates her father. Stephanie says that she loves him, Then she says she hates him.
4.Tajiri vs Jaime noble
Vince made this match when tajiri told vince that noble wants stephanie to win the I quit match at no mercy. When nidia tried to take the title from tajiri, Tajiri blinded nidia with the green mist!
At the end, Brock came out and attacked noble.
5.Vince mcmahon segment
Vince just talks about how he will make stephanie mcmahon quit. Sable kisses vince at the end.
6.Eddie guerrero vs Rhyno
A good match. I loved the part where big show comes out and destroys eddie's car. Then eddie got a chokeslam on the car by the big show.
7.Rey mysterio vs Johnny stamboli
It was ok. But it wasn't good
8.Undertaker segment
The undertaker just talks about the rules of the biker chain match at no mercy. After that, He gets attacked by brock lesnar

So basically today's Smackdown sucked ass that Stephanie interview really ruined the whole show.

At 10/16/03 09:18 PM, RugbyMacDaddy wrote: I dont agree with Goldberg bein a mid-card preformer. He brings to the table something not very many people can do.

Please reply to this and tell what it is that he does that others dont. Lesnar is stronger, everyone has a better arsenal of moves, everyone can do better interviews/promos..... I still dont see this hidden talent or whatever it is that makes you obsessed with goldberg.....

First of all they didnt hype up Goldberg nearly as much as some other people making returns (remember how much hype there was for HHH before he came back from the lge injury)

HHH deserved the hype. He recovered from such a devastating injury. But beyond that he is one of, if not the top guy in the business. Anything goldberg can do HHH can do better.

He has so much raw power in him that he impresses everyone(how many of you people were not impressed by the jackhammer on Mark Henery or any of his other huge hits like the spear on three minute warning putting one through the security wall).

Ummmmm that "jackhammer" on mark henry wasnt even a real one. It was just a suplex. I mean kurt angle and lesnar have done more impressive thingd to the big show..... OH WOW!!!! he put some guy through a rigged security wall. thats what i call impressive. Youre comparing him to michaels, foley and others who do real high spots and insane manuvers. Going through a fake wall is nothing..... You must be easily impressed..... I still dont see how anyone could be impressed with henry vs goldberg. it was one of the worst matches ever.

And after all he did go for a long time without losing, including a win for the heavyweight title in wcw, his first loss was to Kevin Nash. He is a diamond in the rough for WWE. Remember, eric thought austin would never amount to much in the WCW, look how wrong he was.

That was the most phoney-balognay streak ever. For Christs sake they counted his wins at house shows. WHo does that? Another thing about that run, who did he beat along the way? Hugh morrus 10x? Virgil 6x? Glacier 8x? you make it sound like he beat the cream of the crop. well he didnt. A diamond in the rough? bullshit! more like the dirt surrounding flowers.

and once again im forced to ask: are you goldbergs mom or an obsessed homosexual fan?

Also please stop posting if you are only going to make false claims and tell lies. I have no problem when people are fans of anyone, but when you start to make shit up about them, thats to much....

EX: big show is the most agile wrestler in history!

or
La Parka has the best promos ever!

it sounds like bullshit and I hope you realize you sound like shit when you tell tales of things that never happened.

Why do you have to invent memories? also dont forget to respond to my above point on your first "claim"

hey man, he's allowed to state his opinion, you can hate Goldberg and he can like him..

The claim that a person is the best ever at something can never be true..someone better always comes along. If wrestling is still around in 20 years (which is should) they will have a whole new crop of wrestlers who will get the same type of hype.

Don't discourage another person from posting please. This is just for fun after all and there is no sense getting upset over a person's liking of Goldberg.

At 10/16/03 09:37 PM, LordKooler wrote: LordKooler's "Smackdown!" review
1.Kurt angle segment

Just goes to show that Angle is probably WWE's top showman. (sorry Jericho, but you're a close second)

2.Chris benoit vs Doug basham

What? I thought it was a great match. Benoit was outstanding as ever and Doug Basham really stepped up. The Bashams could make great singles competitors, pulling the switcheroo like that. Its like one guy with two bodies.

3.Stephanie mcmahon interview
Very emotional, Stephanie cries throughout the interview.

Emotional-(n.) see BORING

4.Tajiri vs Jaime noble

Noble's anti-McMahon stance puts him thiiiiiis close to being my favorite Smackdown star.

5.Vince mcmahon segment
Vince just talks about how he will make stephanie mcmahon quit. Sable kisses vince at the end.

Sable is such a fucking slut. Why didn't you just have her suck your dick right there in the ring Vince. Maybe some porn would've made the segment tolerable. (Though I'm not quite sure anyone wants to see McMahon's member. Where's Val Venis when you need him? Sable has got to be a contender for Venis Video Platinum Chick.)