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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-10 12:08:09


I saw most of TNA.. not too bad, but damn dusty sounds funny when he talk now.

It sucks that they fired Rhyno. it's just not right.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-10 12:54:52


At 4/10/05 12:08 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: It sucks that they fired Rhyno. it's just not right.

I agreed with sending him home as punishment, because it would be pretty inexcusable for them not to discipline an employee who embarrasses the company that way, and may have made it impossible for them to stay at that hotel again (I dunno if he did or not), but to fire him, especially when you consider there are people still with jobs, still being prominently featured who have done worse, is just ridicolous to me, it just goes to show it's all about where you are on the totem poll, and it's all about whether or not there's a long term plan for you. Rhyno is a guy they missed the boat on I think, here's hoping he catches on somewhere else.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-10 13:49:49


this is what i hate about the wwe is those stupid storyline like lita being marry to kane what the hell does this have to do with wrestling i miss the 90's when wrestling was just wrestling with out the 20 minutes of talking which is a waste of the time unless the rock or austin are in it im i right guys

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-10 16:21:09


is this just a forums just about the wwe because tna is not bad a lot of talent over there

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-10 21:07:56


yeah that is a pretty bad one.

yeah we cover TNA here. Not as much as WWE but that could change.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-11 00:04:11


I think Nova may well be the next guy I cover, if for no other reason then that people who only know him as Simon Dean will realize what a travesty that is.

But to give me something to do, and break up the non-stop bio strings we were doing a bit, I'd like to open up a little Q and A to people, ask any questions about wrestling (but especially ECW) you might have, and I'll try to answer them.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-11 04:27:40


At 4/10/05 12:08 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: I saw most of TNA.. not too bad, but damn dusty sounds funny when he talk now.

I like Elix Skipper voice it just sounds funny to me.

At 4/10/05 11:11 PM, The_Redangleprince wrote: Iscrulz is doing great with the reviews, and Lockdown sounds like...well, it's intresting. A six sided cage, wewt.

Yeah now all the matchs have a cage. Jarrett gets to keep his title until the May ppv when Aj challenges him. I hope Aj wins, wait he better win.

Dear Professor Aview,

At the onenightstand ppv how extreme do you think they will go. I thinking Vince doesnt want any injury lawsuits. Is it going to be normal ecw rules single matchs or will there be special matchs.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-11 08:37:21


That would suck if they made teh ECW reunion toned down. That would not be ECW.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-11 14:57:07


I'm hoping Raw is a good one tonight. I really want to know when the draft lottery will be.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-11 23:50:11


At 4/11/05 10:00 PM, The_Redangleprince wrote: I'm hoping someone will post a Raw Review, yes?

Ok I try one.

And I also wanna know if anyone enjoyed the Armagedon 2002 review. If not, I won't do em again, but if there's but one person that enjoyed it, I'll do the 2003 Royal Rumble later this week.

I read the last one so it didnt go to waste.

Ok Unstructured Raw Review

Womens match. Victoria and Christsy v. Trish and Molly. Um nothing special I forget who won oh christy by a flux. anyways Kanes chases after Trish.

HHH has another segment. Hes says the pedigree is a devasting move nothing else. Hurricane interupts. Triple H whats up with dat. Hooray Hurricance and Rosey beat up on H. The match turns in two a handicap match. H wins of course. At the end of the match rosey gets his leg trapped into the ropes. Hurricane was pedigreed. H goes and attacks the defenseless rosey. Omg he pedigreed him onto the floor. Thats you batista H is thinking he is head.

Jericho highlight reel with Shelton. Jericho gets mad at shelton saying he wants the IC title back they insult each. Shelton diss Fozzy Jericho calls him a little bitch. They brawl outside the ring for a bit.

HBK vs. Daivari ( hes in ring of honor) Ok I shorten it up Hassan kicks Shawn right in the balls Daivari gets the win. Backstage Shawn yells I want those clowns in a match, Bischoff says only if you get a tag partner.

Could it be the return of RNN. They show Randy shoulder operation in a hostipal. Stacy goes well he deserved it and somechick in lingre they were small talking Trish: ahhhhh Kanes omfg hes coming. Kane walks in the other girls are screaming. Like its a horror movie.

Hbk comes to enterance and asks the camera for his tag team partner. I thought Marty Janetty but it was the Hulkmanics chatting one more match.

Benoit vs. Christan With Edge on commentary(I love heel guest commentary) Sort of like last week match. Finally Christian gets a win. The match was Christian working over ther arm, Beniot got a few moves in german, sharpshooter. Tomko and Edge interfered unprettier wins the match.

Jr interviews the Animal. Batista had a great promo until he screwed up one word oh well. HHH comes to the ring and says the next week its the game goes one on one with...JR lmao

Wtf a talon for Backlash graphic. rips open black leather.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-12 00:50:11


At 4/11/05 12:46 AM, The_Redangleprince wrote: Welcome to Ask Aview

Isn't that my line?

Dear Professor Aview,

What's your alias all about and where did it come from? Also, if you wouldn't mind, could you tell me your measurements?

My alias comes from the fact that I'm a big fan of Kevin Smith, and his View Askew movies. I really liked the name, and needed a new AIM screen name to ditch someone who was making multiple accounts and therefore was unblockable, I decided to change my NG name which was originally "ECWMark" to the newer "aviewaskewed" which I thought was more my personality.

Uh, I think I'll keep my measurements to myself.

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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-12 00:58:13


At 4/11/05 04:27 AM, The_Redangleknight wrote: Dear Professor Aview,

At the onenightstand ppv how extreme do you think they will go. I thinking Vince doesnt want any injury lawsuits. Is it going to be normal ecw rules single matchs or will there be special matchs.

One of the most unfair criticisms ECW ever got was that they were just a "blood and guts" promotion. That's absolutely false, and was made up by ECW detractors who either never truly watched the product, or wanted it buried for reasons of their own. If you go back and watch, you will actually find (especially near the end), a lot of just straight up wrestling matches with little to no brawling. ECW had many great technicians come through the door, and I would suggest watching Malenko/Guerrero two of three falls, and some of the International Triple Threats involving Super Crazy, Yoshihiro Tajiri, and Jerry Lynn to see some of ECW's best straight wrestling. Being hardcore isn't all about how much plunder you use.

That said, everyone who has been spoken to about this show says that WWE wants it to be very authentic, so I imagine the rules of a traditional ECW match will be observed, and since a lot of the performers coming in for this show have no affliation with WWE per se, it's not as if they're getting hurt damages Vince's business. I imagine he will have all appropriate wavers signed, plus, ECW guys were tough, they worked a rough as hell style, and did it night in and night out, wrestlers get hurt all the time, it's part of the risk you take in this business. As far as gimmick matches go, I do believe (and hope) that will see some ECW gimmicks like Stairway to Hell, Three Way Dance (that's triple threat, but with elimination rules, ECW invented that whole concept, thank you very much), so I think you're going to see ECW's style and flavor well represented, it's just going to be sad that Joey Styles will most likely not be there calling the action.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-12 01:13:29


At 4/11/05 10:00 PM, The_Redangleprince wrote: Dear Professor Aview,

Why haven't you answered our previous letters? And furthermore, whats your favorite match of all time in your opinion? Do you have different types like, "favorite wrestling match' and "favorite brawler match"?

I haven't been quick to answer because I have a full-time job, a website to run, and I had to make a trip to the bank today to buy a new car. I will try to answer every letter you guys put out, but it's going to take some time as I'm a very busy guy, and some days are going to be better then others. Just bear with me : ).

As far as a favorite match, yeah, that's very hard to call, as I think if you're watching two or more guys who know what they're doing in the particular style their working, they can really make you love it. I've always been very partial to tag team match ups (and that's one of the reasons why the abysmal tag division of late has been). So maybe we should break it down in terms of style of match, and what my favorites are that way:

Favorite Series: RVD/Jerry Lynn. I HATED RVD when this was going on, mostly because I was dumb and didn't understand how truly good RVD was, and thought he was overexposed, but I absolutely loved what he and Lynn were doing here, just about every match in this series is a classic bout, and they really did manage to deliver intensity, and tell an incredible story, without huge amounts of buildup, or the need for an "I hate your guts because of this" type storyline. Just pure work ethic there.

Favorite tag team match: Mikey Whipwreck and Tajiri vs. The FBI, absolutely everything in this feud was incredible, it's hard to pick a favorite, but I think they're bout from The Massacre on 34th Street PPV was truly great, they did so much high flying, false finishes, they really elevated in my mind what Tag wrestling could be, and that one WASN'T EVEN FOR THE BELTS! This was just to determine a number 1 contender, just an incredible bout that was only enhanced by the fact that they weren't fighting FOR the titles, they were simply fighting for a SHOT at them, hell, I think they had a better bout there then the actual tag title match later on in the show.

Favorite Brawl: Terry Funk vs. Cactus Jack, ECW Arena, first ECW bout between the two. This one TORE the house down! Almost literally, Funk and Jack made you believe they truly hated each other, they fought all around the ring for the first twenty minutes or so, and just hit each other with anything and everything they could find, it wasn't just hardcore for hardcore's sake, this was a story about two men who hated each other, and were willing to take it to another level, add in interference from Douglas and The Sandman, who were also involved in the feud, and you had a wild wild match, which saw Jack get the win, but Funk burning him after with the flaming branding iron. It's a wild brawl, that when you talk about suspending disbelief, and telling a great story, this one did that and then some. What everyone who wants to look at how to tell a story while using everything but the kitchen sink should be watching.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-12 01:28:43


Ugh, this is why you don't do anything else when you post, forgot a match or two:

Favorite technical bout: For pure technical ability, you can't go wrong with Malenko/Gurrero two out of three falls, they're last ECW bout, they worked for about a half hour solid, as the fans pleaded with them not to go to ECW.

Favorite storyline: Taz vs. Shane Douglas. The build up was incredible, and spun so many other matches out of it, the actual bout between the two disappointed a little, as Douglas worked hurt, but damn, what a great storyline going in, and people still went nuts when Taz got the belt.

Favorite gimmick match: Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart, Iron Man match. I think this bout gets pissed on a bit unfairly, I wish J.R. had been calling this one, I think that when you remove it from the expectations that may have been put on it at the time, and look at it just on it's own merits, you find this was a stellar match between the two, and is a blue print that no other Iron Man match was able to top, it's just an example of two of the best ever, at their peak, wrestling on totally equal terms, and the kind of classic that can provide.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-12 01:36:18


So Rhyno is gone, so is Matt Hardy, apparently WWE was not happy with the fact that he took the situation with himself, Edge, and Lita, public. It'll be 90 days before Hardy can take any offers to work elsewhere, so we're looking at July before he'll debut in TNA.

Also released were Carlitto's former bodyguard Jesus, and Chilly Willy (which surprised me about as much as Hardy, since I figured they would really want to find work for him due to his military service in Iraq.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-12 02:08:57


At 4/12/05 01:36 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: So Rhyno is gone, so is Matt Hardy, apparently WWE was not happy with the fact that he took the situation with himself, Edge, and Lita, public. It'll be 90 days before Hardy can take any offers to work elsewhere, so we're looking at July before he'll debut in TNA.

Look at it on the bright side. Now Matt and Jeff can reunite and make the Hardy Boyz over on TNA. Someone to fight Team Canada and 3 Live Kru. And Rhyno can go up against Monty Brown. Pounce vs. Gore! Oh yeah!

Also released were Carlitto's former bodyguard Jesus, and Chilly Willy (which surprised me about as much as Hardy, since I figured they would really want to find work for him due to his military service in Iraq.

This is the kind of stupid shit that WWE makes that makes me boil deep inside. I mean come on! Let's look at Heidenreitch and Snitsky. 2 guys that blow and SHOULD be let go, and Rhyno and Matt, 2 guys that rock our socks and are let go. I think Vince WANTS us to not watch anymore...

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-12 02:11:35


Being involved with local independent wrestling, formerly working [nee I am NOT a wrestler] on the BallPark Brawls, I am glad I came upon this thread. I hope to be contributing to this a lot more now that I have discovered it. And for those of you that are real true ECW fans, I have had the awesome opportunity to have multiple encounters with [film up close and personal, even eat dinner with, as well as talk with] the one and only 'Dastardly' Danny Doring. I am out in Western NY area, so hit me up if you want to see some great wresting in the area, or just want to ask me stuff about independent stuff as well as Vince World Order, a.k.a. WWE, or henceforth known as VWO. Take care and enjoy!

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-12 04:59:27


At 4/12/05 12:39 AM, The_Redangleprince wrote: Thank you oh so very much. Has anyone told you that you are the most underappreciated member of this club?

Naw maybe(being underappreciated is better than overappreciated me thinks) but I tend not to draw attention like Aview ecw bios and Q&A. The orginal Reds rant, Angles hot or not and Prince predictions ( I remember those).

At 4/12/05 12:58 AM, aviewaskewed wrote: Response to my letter.

Well I knew about ecw had some straight wreslting from beniot eddie and malkeno. When I hear Ecw I think hardcore brawling type of wrestling.

it's just going to be sad that Joey Styles will most likely not be there calling the action.

It will be. Hey as long as its not Cole.

At 4/12/05 02:11 AM, Pepperjr wrote: stuff. ( not quoting everything specifically)

Well we need more regulars in this club. Sure we can take about Indy but you probably talking to yourself in most cases. My local Indy show folded so I dont have one thats near by.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-12 08:02:15


so, Pepperjr, you were involved how then? Just an observer or did you do stuff backstage?

They fired Matt? WTF?!

Raw was great and the main event with benoit and christian was awsome.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-12 18:19:54


So Molly Holly has also been released, and a new Diva Search is on the way, still no word on when the draft is going to happen. My god but WWE sucks utter ass right now.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-12 18:57:01


At 4/12/05 06:19 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: So Molly Holly has also been released, and a new Diva Search is on the way, still no word on when the draft is going to happen. My god but WWE sucks utter ass right now.

If they keep doing this they should scrap the womens division because their isnt enough women wrestlers. Oh boy more models on a raw oh boy I cant wait.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-13 01:31:12


It looks like that Batista will be the world heavy weight champion for some time. First of all, HHH chose the wrong time to challenge Batista again. As we know. Backlash is on 1st May, 4 weeks after Wrestlemania 21. It is highly unlikely for any champion to have the title for only 4 weeks. So it is very predicatable for HHH to get his ass kicked again. Secondly, Randy Orton is out for 4 months because of injuries. (I wouldn't call challenging the Undertaker a smart move. Plus by RKOing Stacy, he lost many fans' support.) Lastly, it looks like that Edge is not in a hurry of challenging Batista. So I dare to say that Batisa will be the champion for some time.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-13 01:39:32


At 4/8/05 01:16 PM, Outlaw88 wrote: Out of those in the torunament for the number 1 contender who do you think it will be?

JBL has won his match so he goes on to the triple threat. I think Angel will be in it too, Rey mighyt interphere and get Eddie DQed. As for teh Show/Booker match that one is in the air for me.

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Kurt Angle. I can just feel it. (don't know why.) But I wonder why The Undertaker didn't join the No.1 contender series.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-13 03:39:41


At 4/12/05 08:13 PM, The_Redangleprince wrote: so if there are any PPV's that you would like to request a review of, please name it within the next 3 days.

The follow- up would be WmXIX. I dont care anyone before 2003 would do fine.

At 4/13/05 01:31 AM, Dream_of_Duke wrote: It is highly unlikely for any champion to have the title for only 4 weeks.

Yeah now days it is but there have been many times the title switched in less than 2 days

Randy Orton is out for 4 months because of injuries. (I wouldn't call challenging the Undertaker a smart move.

Yes it was. that was a great match for takers last wresltemania

Plus by RKOing Stacy, he lost many fans' support.)

Let me guess your a fan since summerslam when he won the title. Heel Orton is a lot better jjust wait for the RNN shoulder updates

So you found the club are you going to become a member.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-13 08:10:40


They fired Molly too??? well thats it for that division. And on top of that another diva search.. Didn't everybody hating this give vince and the crew some kind of hint? It won the Gooker award for crying out loud!

wtf... They are getting rid of all the talented ones while the ones we all hate in that "get off my tv" way still linger... It's not right... just not freakin right...


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-13 10:48:59


At 4/12/05 06:34 PM, The_Redangleprince wrote: I have no respect for the womens division anymore. Not after this. First it was Jacky, then Gail and Molly. You have Trish, Victoria and Lita left as the only true womens competitors, and no we're having another diva search where the winner will get on Raw while the popular losers all go to SD! to rot away valuable SD! match time.

How fucking ridiculous this is.

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Chisty is 4th one. Maybe Stacy and Maria should consider becoming wrestlers too. ;) :P


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-13 17:04:37


At 4/18/03 08:00 PM, GokuLV500 wrote: wrestling sucks now but..............the games are still kinda cool

wrestling is teh best sport evr but yes teh games are cool .

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-13 17:07:29


L.O.L. I want 2 join wrestling is teh shitttttttttt and anyone who dissagress should fucking die.

Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-13 18:47:58


ok guys. it's time we took a stand.

I was doing some research on why they fired Molly and Matt.

Molly basicly wanted out of her contract because she was pissed at how WWE has been handling the women's division. She was very angry that christy, who is not a wrestler, is being paid more than her, based on a diva search. Molly who has done a lot for the WWE, has had great matches, and even let them shave her bald was being paid far less than someone who's only redeaming quality is that she got naked. and now they are having another diva search..... I don't blame her. It's not Christy's fault either. Nope, she's not to blame here folks. She just entered a contest and won, no the real person or people to blame is Vince and his crew. They are the one's who cut the womens division and came up with the search in the first place.

Matt was fired because he posted on his site what was going on between him edge and lita. Sounds stupid huh? I wish that was a sick joke but it's not. I'm sure thay are calling it something else but that's what it boils down to. So lets ge this straight: WWE fired the only guy who was being honest with us, talking about his PERSONAL LIFE, on his own site. Isn't that illegal? Firing somebody who is expressing his freedom of speech, or press? Complete Bullshit on WWE's part. They don't repremand Edge or Lita but they fire the victum in this situatiuon. Thats not right. What kind of message is WWE sending? One I'm not happy with.

The Diva search making a return? Hell no. I'm not going to let that happen without a fight. That search was a huge waste of time and is deameaning to the actual workers they have like Trish, Victoria and Lita. The only actual wrestlers left and Lita is hurt so that drops us to two. And you know with the way things are going they are going to give the title to Christy. I'm not going to make this a smooth transaction for them...

here is where we take a stand. I am not going to sit and let this happen and let them get away with what they have done. I am going to write the company, basicly saying how the fireing of Matt Hardy was comepletly uncalled for, and that I will not be watching the diva search. Each time it comes on i will switch the channel, and maybe I'll just watch something else. If you guys want to help on this you can send the letters here:

WWE Corporate Headquarters
Attention:(please include Deparment)
1241 East Main Street
Stamford, CT 06902
203-352-8600

I'll try to find the appropriate department. it doesn't have to be an entire negative letter, if they are doing something you like, say so. Also include this site in it. Let them know we are here. There is an e-mail too but written letters make more of an impact.

I'm also going to e-mail Matt Hardy and express my utter disgust with what WWE has done t him and that I back him 100%. I will include this site as well and maybe he'll respond here as well. I'm sure his e-mail is flooded with stuff like that but if we all do it and list this crew that will show there is a group in other places.
You can e-mail him here:
MFersunite@THEMattHardy.com

or write to him here:

MATT HARDY
P.O. Box 713
VASS, NC 28394

If you don't want to participate you do not have to. And just because they have ads for it now doesn't mean that if they won't stop it if they get enough negative feedback. You don't have to take this crap. Take a stand and rise up against crappy gimmicks and wrongful termination.

wow long post. sorry. But I feel strongly about this. Again you do not have to help or even agree with me but this is what I feel must be done. I will not be angry with anyone who does not want to participate either. it's all good.


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Response to The Wrestling (WWE) Club 2005-04-13 19:54:36


wow molly is gone i cant blam her i be pissed off if i lose to christy too but still she was one of the only diva who actully wrestle well and can believe vince in the last year he fired half of his roster matt hardy.test,jazz,rodney mack,nidia,gail kim,rnyno,the 2 italien guys etc...
hmmm i wonder where all tose guys are going to go oh? i dont known maybe tna kevin nash makes 5000$ a show over there vince just give the wwe to triple h he already married one of your children so why not give him the wwe from you.

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