At 2/16/11 01:10 PM, SomaGuye wrote:

Then watch something and start a discussion on it. You aren't helping by just going "Oh nobody else ever talks about anything interesting." You talk about it then.

Oh, like I have been for months? I've posted several times of titles that I was watching and turned out to be enjoying. And guess who posted in response, or guess who went "Oh, wow, that actually sounds really nice, I'll have to check it out sometime for sure" ... Aside from the guy responded to me about Slam Dunks manga(Which is nice, because Slam Dunk has been a fantastic watch so far)

...

Wait for it

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Nobody.

That's kind of a moot thing to suggest, when the point of my complaints were that nobody here, including you. Has any sincere interest or motivation to watch anything outside of your comfort zones, and only participate in discussing several popular titles, or what's currently airing. What's the point in me trying to stir up new discussion, when neither of you have any attempt to follow up?

Just so you guys know I'm with mendou. Hokuto No Ken is next on my hitlist anyway.

I've watched about 50 episodes of Hokuto No Ken. I will probably resume watching it at some point, however it would be better if all the gore wasn't censored.

At 2/16/11 02:00 PM, Mendou wrote:

At 2/16/11 01:10 PM, SomaGuye wrote:

Then watch something and start a discussion on it. You aren't helping by just going "Oh nobody else ever talks about anything interesting." You talk about it then.

Oh, like I have been for months? I've posted several times of titles that I was watching and turned out to be enjoying. And guess who posted in response, or guess who went "Oh, wow, that actually sounds really nice, I'll have to check it out sometime for sure" ... Aside from the guy responded to me about Slam Dunks manga(Which is nice, because Slam Dunk has been a fantastic watch so far)

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Wait for it

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Nobody.

That's kind of a moot thing to suggest, when the point of my complaints were that nobody here, including you. Has any sincere interest or motivation to watch anything outside of your comfort zones, and only participate in discussing several popular titles, or what's currently airing. What's the point in me trying to stir up new discussion, when neither of you have any attempt to follow up?

Well looking up at the list you posted before I'm sorry to say they're all things I've looked at before and had no interest in at all. Especially the long running ones. I don't have the patiece to watch the 100 or so episodes of LOTGH, sports anime don't interest me in the slightest, and neither do mecha anime really. I think that covered most of your list. I'm working through a backlog right now anyway, if you think their would be any discussion value in anything on my backlog tell me and I'll post about it after I've watch it, although I'm sure you won't find any value in any of them.

Backlog:
Seitokai Yakuindomo
Bakemonogatari
Kimi no Todoke
Maria Holic
Seikimatsu Occult Gakuin
Amagami SS
B Gatai H Kei
Cromartie High
Darker Than Black
Dennou Coil
Macross Frontier
Spice and Wolf
Texhnolyze

For anyone that cares I pretty much dropped Serial Experiments Lain at episode 9, I just couldn't be bothered any more as I didn't find it particularly interesting at all.

At 2/16/11 05:43 PM, SomaGuye wrote: mecha anime don't interest me in the slightest
Backlog:
Macross Frontier

Go figure.

For anyone that cares I pretty much dropped Serial Experiments Lain at episode 9, I just couldn't be bothered any more as I didn't find it particularly interesting at all.

Did you try and marathon it?

At 2/16/11 06:46 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote:

At 2/16/11 05:43 PM, SomaGuye wrote: mecha anime don't interest me in the slightest
Backlog:
Macross Frontier

Go figure.

For anyone that cares I pretty much dropped Serial Experiments Lain at episode 9, I just couldn't be bothered any more as I didn't find it particularly interesting at all.

Did you try and marathon it?

Yes. Being as I still couldn't understand what was going on after watching them right after each other I think I would have understood even less watching them seperately.

At 2/16/11 06:46 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote:

At 2/16/11 05:43 PM, SomaGuye wrote: mecha anime don't interest me in the slightest
Backlog:
Macross Frontier

Go figure.

Also you sly fuck don't paraphrase me, I said sports anime anime don't interest me in the slightest, and neither do mecha anime really. Key word being really, as there are exceptions. Besides the only reason it's there is because of Ranka.

At 2/16/11 01:06 PM, Mendou wrote: Oh yeah, throw that straw man at me and play the old "YOU'RE JUST AN ELITIST" card.

Why is the word 'strawman' thrown around so much in here? It's like everyone just attended the first week of a debating or logic course and really wants to throw around what they've learned. I was referring to the elitist bullshit that you post (e.g. this dumb anime fan equivalent of a hipster rant, in that you're chastising people for not watching things nobody has heard of), not saying that you only post elitist bullshit.

You may be missing the point of my venting, I posted because there's nothing to join in about. Everyone here talks about the same shows, same subjects. It's hard to pick ones to join, when there really isn't any.

Start more of them then. If nobody joins in, then I guess you'll be able to see where your complaints stand.

I'm not saying I was some beacon of great discussion. I merely point out that this club truly does repeat itself, and for every user that comes and goes, there's always one that goes "I'M GOING TO WATCH COWBOY BEBOP FOR THE FIRST TIME *DOES SO* OH MAN IT'S SO GREAT BEST ANIME I'VE EVER SEEN, REJECT THAT I PROBABLY HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ELSE ASIDE FROM BEBOP"

Eh, I still think that after watching a bunch of others. But I've probably discussed it enough. You can't blame your hypothetical dude for wanting to discuss it if he thinks it's the best anime ever, though.

It's a cycle that continues to restrict itself because the users who post here just watch the same several that have been pointed out, and that's it. I'm just saying to try to fucking explore, there are so many gems out there that it's unbelievable, ones that I and maybe a few others, would love to learn and talk about.

Why would I bother exploring when there's plenty of good popular anime that I haven't seen yet? I imagine this is the general opinion of a lot of users of this club.

Again, people aren't going to go and find obscure anime just so that you can feel interested when they discuss it.

At 2/16/11 07:19 PM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 2/16/11 06:46 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote:

At 2/16/11 05:43 PM, SomaGuye wrote: I dropped Serial Experiments Lain

Did you try and marathon it?

Yes. Being as I still couldn't understand what was going on after watching them right after each other I think I would have understood even less watching them seperately.

Eh, I don't think that's the right approach. Lain's got far too much going on to absorb in a five hour slot (I know you only got up to ep 9 but whatever). While I could easily watch hundreds of episodes of K-On or Code Geass back to back without missing anything, that's not the case with lain. At the risk of sounding like a pretentious shit who doesn't know what he's talking about, there were too many ambiguous subtexts and things to just take it all in a row at face value. I watched it one episode a night, one fortnight. I rewatched a couple of the episodes nearer the end just to fully comprehend what was going on. Whether that's a sign of good (or indeed poor) direction isn't what matters, the fact is I (and judging by a thread on AnimeByt.es I'm not the only one) feel that there's just a lot going on and it's not designed to be easy to read context. The last few episodes esp are pretty deep (and i dont mean in a "woah deep" way, i just mean there's a lot going on) and it took me quite a while to even begin to understand them.

At 2/16/11 07:27 PM, Aigis wrote: Start more of them then. If nobody joins in, then I guess you'll be able to see where your complaints stand.

Look I'm sorry Aigis but he's got three pages of posts in his history how hard is it to look through them and....

Well...

"Gunbuster is better than TTGL."
"Watching Slam Dunk, pretty fucking sweet."

He's also mentioned stuff like Wings of Honneamise, Hokuto No Ken, Hajime No Ippo, Barefoot Gen, Evangelion 2.0, and a shitload of others... and that's just the first page of posts.

He's been talking plenty about anime he likes.

At 2/16/11 08:22 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: He's been talking plenty about anime he likes.

Yeah, that was my point.

At 2/16/11 07:27 PM, Aigis wrote:

At 2/16/11 01:06 PM, Mendou wrote: Oh yeah, throw that straw man at me and play the old "YOU'RE JUST AN ELITIST" card.

Why is the word 'strawman' thrown around so much in here? It's like everyone just attended the first week of a debating or logic course and really wants to throw around what they've learned. I was referring to the elitist bullshit that you post (e.g. this dumb anime fan equivalent of a hipster rant, in that you're chastising people for not watching things nobody has heard of), not saying that you only post elitist bullshit.

I may have a theory about this, Mendou is upset about his favorite anime not getting enough attention, and he has to vent and shout down others when "popular anime" is much more discussed here than he would normally like. He needs to remember that we don't watch anime all day, and most of the anime he suggests, most of us have never heard of it before, or probably seen it before, but were either too young to remember it, or had a negative opinion on it.

I'm not saying I was some beacon of great discussion. I merely point out that this club truly does repeat itself, and for every user that comes and goes, there's always one that goes "I'M GOING TO WATCH COWBOY BEBOP FOR THE FIRST TIME *DOES SO* OH MAN IT'S SO GREAT BEST ANIME I'VE EVER SEEN, REJECT THAT I PROBABLY HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING ELSE ASIDE FROM BEBOP"

Eh, I still think that after watching a bunch of others. But I've probably discussed it enough. You can't blame your hypothetical dude for wanting to discuss it if he thinks it's the best anime ever, though.

I think we should stop talking about Cowboy Bebop, considering everyone here has seen it, and know how it ends. Yes, CB is an all-time classic, and a favorite of mine, but we shouldn't be discussing this over and over, unless we find something new with the series.

It's a cycle that continues to restrict itself because the users who post here just watch the same several that have been pointed out, and that's it. I'm just saying to try to fucking explore, there are so many gems out there that it's unbelievable, ones that I and maybe a few others, would love to learn and talk about.

Why would I bother exploring when there's plenty of good popular anime that I haven't seen yet? I imagine this is the general opinion of a lot of users of this club.

You also got to remember Mendou, that we don't watch anime 24/7, nor does it consume all of our free time. Hell, I watch anime about 10-15 hours a week, because I have to do other stuff with my life that I rather not going into detail, and I don't want to get off-topic. Sometimes, I do check out obscure anime from time to time, contrary to popular opinion, but I'm much more exposed to "popular anime" as with a lot of users here, and I don't want to look like an elitist smart-ass, by talking about anime that very few people ever talk about, and probably with good reason.

I can understand people having different taste in genres of anime, that's fine and dandy, but don't try to be smart or cool or anything like that when comparing "mainstream" and obscure anime. After all, if it was so good in the first place, how come we've never heard of it before until now?

At 2/16/11 05:43 PM, SomaGuye wrote: I don't have the patiece to watch the 100 or so episodes of LOTGH

If thats how you're going to be, at least watch one of the two movies.

At 2/16/11 05:43 PM, SomaGuye wrote:

sports anime don't interest me in the slightest, and neither do mecha anime really.

That really is quite a shame, I used to feel the exact same way about sports anime in general. I'm not really into any sport, but the thing with those shows. Is that they're still easily watchable in that they focus on themes you may find quite familiar when you've watched other shows. Hajime no Ippo may be about a sport, but it's a shounen first and foremost. Themes of working hard to fulfill your dream, striving towards realistic goals, giving it your all in everything you do. Rivalries, competitiveness etc. When you look at it that way, it's not terribly difficult or unexciting. A lot of sports animes are actually more focused on the central cast than anything. And heavy emphasis on characters, are always my favorite aspect of a show.

Touch is about baseball, but first and foremost, it's a 'coming-of-age' romance between two students. And their lives, families and thoughts are shown enough to not be always about the actual baseball games.

Slam Dunk is all about the basketball games, honestly. But Sakuragi Hanamichi is such a funny and entertaining character to watch and see, I can forgive that pretty easily. And if you're not familiar with basketball, the basic rules get brought up often enough.

I can understand having little interest because of the sports aspect, but a lot of these shows have some of the best cast I've seen in anime to date. And the length isn't that big of a deal if you pace yourself properly. SD in particulars episodes go by very quickly.

I think that covered most of your list. I'm working through a backlog right now anyway, if you think their would be any discussion value in anything on my backlog tell me and I'll post about it after I've watch it, although I'm sure you won't find any value in any of them.

Darker Than Black

Naw man, I loved DtB. Both seasons. That was a really fun action series.

At 2/16/11 11:21 PM, orangebomb wrote:

I may have a theory about this, Mendou is upset about his favorite anime not getting enough attention

Yes, and what's wrong with this, exactly? What's wrong with wanting to talk about the things you enjoy? A lot of you enjoy Death Note, bebop, Geass etc. And those get talked about literally more or less on every page these days. I see no wrong doing in wanting to bring up some less popular personal favorites.

He needs to remember that we don't watch anime all day, and most of the anime he suggests, most of us have never heard of it before, or probably seen it before, but were either too young to remember it, or had a negative opinion on it.

So because you never heard of some of the titles I posted, warrants no value of discussion? Is curiosity suddenly a bad thing?

You also got to remember Mendou, that we don't watch anime 24/7, nor does it consume all of our free time. Hell, I watch anime about 10-15 hours a week, because I have to do other stuff with my life that I rather not going into detail, and I don't want to get off-topic.

You might want to re-read my post. I never said to just drop everything going on in your life so you could watch more anime.

After all, if it was so good in the first place, how come we've never heard of it before until now?

Okay what? Now all of a sudden a shows quality and merit is based upon whether people have heard of it or not? Do you actually read what you post sometimes? Dreadful argument you got there, sir.

Also Edward, you're my goddamn brah, you bitch.

At 2/17/11 01:08 AM, Mendou wrote: sports anime rant

Took the words right out of my mouth, I agree. I started reading the baseball manga (Rookies) I mentioned earlier and it's great. I haven't read enough for the story to really start up, but the main character, Kawatou, is already awesome despite me having read only two chapters.

I've also read five volumes of Ichigo 100%, and it's nothing spectacular or a masterpiece (so far). Likable cast of female characters, and Junpei's kinda annoying for an MC.

At 2/16/11 09:12 AM, DeIirium wrote: A few months ago I read a manga by Fukumoto called Tobaku Haouden Zero. Its a gambling anime similiar to Kaiji,

I swear, gambling + Fukumoto is a recipe for an instant masterpiece -- just like Martin Scorsese and crime/mob movies.

At 2/17/11 01:45 AM, towelie101 wrote:

I haven't heard of that one before, but if the art tells me anything, it's kinda like GTO. I'll have to read it sometime then, my good man.

At 2/16/11 09:12 AM, DeIirium wrote:

I swear, gambling + Fukumoto is a recipe for an instant masterpiece -- just like Martin Scorsese and crime/mob movies.

I respect Fukumoto a lot for his works, I love how he created his own style. And especially the rather uncommon themes of aging, and men suffering from apathy and depression during midlife crisis'. I was reading Kurosawa a while back, and that one is really good, you should look it up if you want another good Fukumoto story.

Looking forward to Kaiji season 2 as well.

At 2/17/11 01:08 AM, Mendou wrote:

sports anime

Well if you want to suggest some shorter ones for me to watch I'll add them to my list. I know Hajime Ippo goes on for fucking ages so that definitely won't be the first one I watch, if you know any that are prefereably around 24 episodes, or if failing that at least under 50, then tell me and I'll get right on it.

At 2/17/11 03:37 AM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 2/17/11 01:08 AM, Mendou wrote:

sports anime

Well if you want to suggest some shorter ones for me to watch I'll add them to my list. I know Hajime Ippo goes on for fucking ages so that definitely won't be the first one I watch, if you know any that are prefereably around 24 episodes, or if failing that at least under 50, then tell me and I'll get right on it.

One outs. This is one of the most addicting animes that I have seen, it's kind of like Death Note but with baseball.

At 2/17/11 02:16 AM, Mendou wrote:

At 2/17/11 01:45 AM, towelie101 wrote:

I respect Fukumoto a lot for his works, I love how he created his own style. And especially the rather uncommon themes of aging, and men suffering from apathy and depression during midlife crisis'. I was reading Kurosawa a while back, and that one is really good, you should look it up if you want another good Fukumoto story.

Kurosawa is great, and its also probably the funniest manga that I've read. It shows that Fukumoto is versatile and can write about things other than gambling.

At 2/16/11 08:24 PM, Aigis wrote:

At 2/16/11 08:22 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: He's been talking plenty about anime he likes.

Yeah, that was my point.

Oh was it? Sorry for misinterpreting bro

At 2/17/11 07:55 AM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: Oh was it? Sorry for misinterpreting bro

I forgive you.

At 2/17/11 02:16 AM, Mendou wrote: I haven't heard of that one before, but if the art tells me anything, it's kinda like GTO. I'll have to read it sometime then, my good man.

I still haven't read Onizuka even though it's been sitting on my HD for a bit...

I was reading Kurosawa a while back, and that one is really good, you should look it up if you want another good Fukumoto story.

....and this as well - I'm fucking lazy.

Looking forward to Kaiji season 2 as well.

Yep, spring can't come any sooner. Still thinking if whether or not I should marathon it when all of the episodes have aired (the last season was about 23-26 episodes, right?) or to just watch it weekly.

I'm aiming towards the latter because I won't be spoiled, and shit might be even more intense.

Since I've read the manga of Kaiji season 2 I can say that it is more intense than the first part. Towards the end there is one part which is almost insufferably suspenseful. The anime version will expectedly be even better.

At 2/17/11 03:37 AM, SomaGuye wrote:

At 2/17/11 01:08 AM, Mendou wrote:

sports anime

I know Hajime Ippo goes on for fucking ages so that definitely won't be the first one I watch,

That's kind of silly, you're doing a bit of a disservice to yourself. But if that's the case, I agree with One Outs, you could even watch Major. I mean, with the combined seasons, it totals up to over 100+ episodes. But they're paired in 24-26 episode seasons, so it's not that much of a hurdle if you think of it like you're watching separate shows.

So, you don't like Cowboy Bebop, Mendou?

At 2/17/11 07:34 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: So, you don't like Cowboy Bebop, Mendou?

No, I love Cowboy Bebop, one of my favorites. But it's been discussed to death.

It's that time again, and it evolved rather well from the last one from six months ago: http://bighugelabs.com/mosaic.php

At 2/17/11 11:21 PM, Edward wrote: It's that time again, and it evolved rather well from the last one from six months ago: http://bighugelabs.com/mosaic.php

Nice selections, man.

Here's mine. I put in more, but I can't just decide on 12.

I have seen those mosaic anime things on the web before but im not sure what there supposed to mean. Are they like what you watched or are going to watch or watching or what O.o.