At 7/15/10 07:40 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: Newgrounds is a teens site, anyone has the right to join, but you don't seem to understand that. lol I bet your one of those old child predators with a beard ewwwwwwww!
I came here to meet cool teens but their seems just to be old assheads like you lol.

First of all, the clubs are run by the members, and the members have the right to decide who they accepts and don't accept in a club. This isn't in the actual rules as such, but if everyone in the club lets out a collective grooan when they notice you posted, you should kinda take the hint. Besides, there are clubs for specific shows, like Naruto and Bleach which are shunned from this club.

Also, then you go and post a string of homophobic slurs. That is, in fact, against the rules, and a sure fire way to not make friends with me.

...Ahem.

Now, I want to say that I took a good, long read at the article that Johnny posted earlier, and I found it very interesting and thought-provoking. I always knew that the Japanese kept a very strict and orderly society, but I never knew it was to that kind of extent. Especially the whole thing about having to apologize after every slightly wrong thing you do, and about all the mandatory greetings and comments that employees are forced to say everyday at work.

Back on the side of anime-related things, does anyone have any idea of when the Tsukihime remake is supposed to be released? All I know is that Type-Moon said that they would work on it when they finished Witch on the Holy Night (I think that's what it's called), and that's been out for a bit of time...

At 7/15/10 07:40 PM, IlikeKorn123 wrote: hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha loser!

Well you're a stinky poopy butt! (I figure I should use the same grade of language you are)

DBZ is one of the best animes (IMO) ever. The fight scenes are some of the best, the story is awesome, and the characters are well-developed!

Also, Korn is awful. If you going to listen to a metal band, listen to something good like Dethklok or Graveworm or Winds of Plague!

ASSPHUCK PENIS SHITTTTTT that is all gentleman.

At 7/15/10 11:37 PM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote:
Hibi, we've been through this before, and frankly we're tired of it. Please stop bitching about your inane and often unsupported and ignorant claims regarding the state of anime and anime dubbing companies and the supposed edits they apparently do.

My claims are always substantiated in some way; it's not my fault if you refuse to view the evidence.

This is the 21st century, anime has come a long fucking way and will only make improvements as it goes on,

True, but it still has an even longer way to go. I can accurately predict it's just going to get worse, what with the studios pushing the envelope further and further, so much that FUNimation has attempted to refuse to release uncut versions of certain series (e.g. Strike Witches and Dance in the Vampire Bund) for fear of being targeted by the FBI for obscenity.

I implore you to please stop making every fucking post that really doesn't involve what you're talking about about anime dubs. We're more than happy having you here but if you can't go without outright bitching about the state of American anime adaptations I request taking this to a livejournal.

Look, I can't stand it when people parrot the virtues of supporting the domestic anime industry and gloss over all the problems with such. Someone has to be around to set them straight. And don't give me any "just leave them alone, they have nothing to do with you" crap; this IS my business. Every dollar spent on domestically distributed anime goes toward legislation or other restrictions barring legitimate importation of anime and goods for private use. I have to warn them that whenever they buy something, people like me suffer.

Frankly you are coming across as a troll every time you stand on this soapbox about dubbed anime.

Look who's talking. You always play the Devil's Advocate and attempt to rationalize everything they do and have done over the years and encourage other users to purchase their shit just to spite me. It seems that EVERY POST you have ever made in this thread since I returned has been an attack. Why must you pick on just me?

It's not fucking working, and it would help if you stop talking about so we don't get into a retarded debate about this shit again because you're not going to change the opinions of the users here and I'd like to see this place as a nice place to discuss anime without the whole "Subs Vs Dubs" horseshit I get from so many otaku.

I may not have stated this clearly before, but I don't mind dubs as long as they're accurate and faithful to the original. Same with subs. This is not a matter of "subs vs. dubs", this is a matter of bait-and-switch prevention. If someone sold you a cheeseburger and when you bit into it you realized it was a tuna salad sandwich, you'd be pissed, right? It's the exact same thing; the distributors promise us quality anime fresh from Japan but when we look closely at it they've cut it virtually down to nothing and sold us something completely different! In any other industry, this behavior is against the law!

Please, for the love of the Flying Spagetti Monster, stop it. I hate fucking white-knighting and arguing with you about this.

Rubber, glue, back to you.

At 7/16/10 05:01 AM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:

At 7/15/10 11:37 PM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote:

Hibi, it sounds like you can't see the forest from the trees with your argument, you may have a few points, but this needs some cleaning up, so to speak.

This is the 21st century, anime has come a long fucking way and will only make improvements as it goes on,

True, but it still has an even longer way to go. I can accurately predict it's just going to get worse, what with the studios pushing the envelope further and further, so much that FUNimation has attempted to refuse to release uncut versions of certain series (e.g. Strike Witches and Dance in the Vampire Bund) for fear of being targeted by the FBI for obscenity.

How do you directly know it's going to get worse, per se? Of course, anime studios will push the envelope further, just like movies, games, etc., they're going to keep pushing until it becomes something like a borderline ecchi because that is what the fans want, and the studios have to get with the times and stay on par with other facets of entertainment., in terms of suggestiveness. I think the FBI has more pressing concerns than boobies and excessive blood in anime, but that's another discussion for another day.

I implore you to please stop making every fucking post that really doesn't involve what you're talking about about anime dubs. We're more than happy having you here but if you can't go without outright bitching about the state of American anime adaptations I request taking this to a livejournal.

Look, I can't stand it when people parrot the virtues of supporting the domestic anime industry and gloss over all the problems with such. Someone has to be around to set them straight.

You make it sound like the dubbing companies are jerks with nothing better to do than insult anime fans like us with shitty dubs and joke subs. Now, are they perfect?, No, but it's their job to dub the anime into English and release to a market to people who will appeal to, {e.g. a show like Bleach would appeal to a range of 13-16 yr old, whereas a show like Code Geass or Hokuto No Ken, is more suited for a 16+ audience. This isn't the 1980's, where a dubbing company could do whatever they wanted to do with a certain anime, it's 2010.

And don't give me any "just leave them alone, they have nothing to do with you" crap; this IS my business. Every dollar spent on domestically distributed anime goes toward legislation or other restrictions barring legitimate importation of anime and goods for private use. I have to warn them that whenever they buy something, people like me suffer.

Why bother buying the import version for more than $200 plus tax, when chances are you don't know what the holy hell they are talking about unless you have a decent knowledge of the Japanese language. And besides, in most box sets, if not all of them, there are options whether you want the dub version, or the original audio with subtitles. It's called marketing, maybe you should brush up on it.

Frankly you are coming across as a troll every time you stand on this soapbox about dubbed anime.

Look who's talking. You always play the Devil's Advocate and attempt to rationalize everything they do and have done over the years and encourage other users to purchase their shit just to spite me. It seems that EVERY POST you have ever made in this thread since I returned has been an attack. Why must you pick on just me?

I don't know about a troll, but more like a butthurt anime purist who is stuck with a view that all American anime dubs are fail, and the original raw version is the best thing that happened in anime history. It's time to get with the times.

It's not fucking working, and it would help if you stop talking about so we don't get into a retarded debate about this shit again because you're not going to change the opinions of the users here and I'd like to see this place as a nice place to discuss anime without the whole "Subs Vs Dubs" horseshit I get from so many otaku.

Hey, that's what we all want, to discuss anime and manga in an enlightened debate, rather than childish name calling and irrelevant talks about poop jokes and WW3 rants, metaphorically speaking.
But there are times where even fans have an archaic view about anime, and how it should be treated. As some people mentioned before, dubbing companies try their best to keep as much as the original content as much as possible along with putting it in English where everyone can understand, and keep the original version intact for people who want it in Japanese.

I may not have stated this clearly before, but I don't mind dubs as long as they're accurate and faithful to the original. Same with subs. This is not a matter of "subs vs. dubs", this is a matter of bait-and-switch prevention. If someone sold you a cheeseburger and when you bit into it you realized it was a tuna salad sandwich, you'd be pissed, right? It's the exact same thing; the distributors promise us quality anime fresh from Japan but when we look closely at it they've cut it virtually down to nothing and sold us something completely different! In any other industry, this behavior is against the law!

I don't recall that. As I stated before, the FBI has bigger things on its plate than an anime chick with boobs, or a tidal wave of blood in a fictional setting, the FCC maybe, but not the FBI.

Please, for the love of Haruhi,

Edited for reference.

Looks like I threw down the gauntlet, I like to see your response, Hibi.

I'm going to ignore the drama that seems to be going on around here and just say I hope they remake Gantz as an anime when the manga finishes. It could have been really good, but they ruined it with terrible pacing and a horrible original ending.

At 7/16/10 05:52 PM, LaForge wrote:

At 7/16/10 10:50 AM, SomaGuye wrote: I'm going to ignore the drama that seems to be going on around here and just say I hope they remake Gantz as an anime when the manga finishes. It could have been really good, but they ruined it with terrible pacing and a horrible original ending.

Hurp de durp.

And what exactly are you durping at?

so yeah hey that korn guy, sense-offender, et al

shut up or go away

i really have better things to read than two people flinging vague baseless insults at each other. if you want to discuss the merits of old animes vs newer animes or whatever i don't give two shits that's all good and such, just don't do it with all the name calling and lack of actual arguments

final warning

any posts even REMOTELY dicky from either of you (i say either but everyone's at risk here) will get a ban.

Right now? Absolutely nothing. I finished Gurren Lagann earlier this week and I don't know what to watch next. A friend's been trying to persuade me to watch One Piece so I can watch it with him every week and discuss whatever thrilling events don't happen, but I'd rather watch paint dry than spend two hundred hours of my life watching the same fucking thing. I don't know what I actually want to watch, something a bit more serious after gurren lagann would be nice though.

Mendou mentioned Armored Troop Votoms, nothing too over the top compared to TTGL. Or if your sick of mechs, maybe try Mad Bull 34 and Windaria, those are some pretty serious ones I'm watching.

At 7/16/10 09:50 AM, orangebomb wrote:
How do you directly know it's going to get worse, per se? Of course, anime studios will push the envelope further, just like movies, games, etc., they're going to keep pushing until it becomes something like a borderline ecchi because that is what the fans want, and the studios have to get with the times and stay on par with other facets of entertainment., in terms of suggestiveness. I think the FBI has more pressing concerns than boobies and excessive blood in anime, but that's another discussion for another day.

You've got a point, but there are a few things you need to keep in mind: the government tends to react more swiftly and with more force to perceived threats coming from foreign sources and when a domestic company does the same. In other words, a Hollywood movie could contain a piece of objectionable content that borders on NC-17 and still pass through to the general public, but if an anime were to be released containing the same content, the FCC, FBI and possibly the FTC would jump on it like a pack of dogs on a three-legged cat. It's all part of an inherent xenophobic mindset that's been around longer than anyone can remember.

You make it sound like the dubbing companies are jerks with nothing better to do than insult anime fans like us with shitty dubs and joke subs.

They sometimes come off as such, yes. Al Kahn has repeatedly admitted to not respecting the anime community and has shown it by releasing two shows (Yu-Gi-Oh! and Shaman King, to be precise) on uncut DVD for a time and then discontinuing them to taunt fans.

Now, are they perfect?, No, but it's their job to dub the anime into English and release to a market to people who will appeal to, {e.g. a show like Bleach would appeal to a range of 13-16 yr old, whereas a show like Code Geass or Hokuto No Ken, is more suited for a 16+ audience. This isn't the 1980's, where a dubbing company could do whatever they wanted to do with a certain anime, it's 2010.

They still try to sneak stuff in, or in this case, out. A good example would be Kaleido Star: the dub has several noticeable cuts that they fortunately restored in the subbed version; but unfortunately they still retained some digital paint in certain episodes in both sub and dub.

Why bother buying the import version for more than $200 plus tax, when chances are you don't know what the holy hell they are talking about unless you have a decent knowledge of the Japanese language.

Which I do, to some extent.

And besides, in most box sets, if not all of them, there are options whether you want the dub version, or the original audio with subtitles. It's called marketing, maybe you should brush up on it.

As I said, they don't always do so. There was a firestorm a while back when Bandai Entertainment refused to release the original Japanese audio track on its DVDs of the show.

I don't know about a troll, but more like a butthurt anime purist who is stuck with a view that all American anime dubs are fail, and the original raw version is the best thing that happened in anime history. It's time to get with the times.

I don't oppose all dubs; I only oppose those which are deliberately inaccurate. Many North American dubs from the past 10 years are close enough to be tolerable, but there is always the prominent exception.

Hey, that's what we all want, to discuss anime and manga in an enlightened debate, rather than childish name calling and irrelevant talks about poop jokes and WW3 rants, metaphorically speaking.

Ditto that.

But there are times where even fans have an archaic view about anime, and how it should be treated. As some people mentioned before, dubbing companies try their best to keep as much as the original content as much as possible along with putting it in English where everyone can understand, and keep the original version intact for people who want it in Japanese.

Or so we think.

I don't recall that. As I stated before, the FBI has bigger things on its plate than an anime chick with boobs, or a tidal wave of blood in a fictional setting, the FCC maybe, but not the FBI.

There's always an exception...

At 7/16/10 09:44 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: Right now? Absolutely nothing. I finished Gurren Lagann earlier this week and I don't know what to watch next. A friend's been trying to persuade me to watch One Piece so I can watch it with him every week and discuss whatever thrilling events don't happen, but I'd rather watch paint dry than spend two hundred hours of my life watching the same fucking thing. I don't know what I actually want to watch, something a bit more serious after gurren lagann would be nice though.

Rainbow - Nisha rokubo no shichinin. This show hasn't finished it's run yet since it started this year, but there are 15 episodes out. It's very dramatic and touching, often brings me to the verge of tears. Also very addicting.

At 7/16/10 10:44 PM, orangebomb wrote: Mendou mentioned Armored Troop Votoms, nothing too over the top compared to TTGL. Or if your sick of mechs, maybe try Mad Bull 34 and Windaria, those are some pretty serious ones I'm watching.

KK, will have a look into those.

At 7/17/10 12:41 AM, Mendou wrote: If you want a more serious anime. Now and Then, Here and There is one of the more dramatic shows that I've seen.

Because it's soul-crushingly depressing, but very moving and powerful. One of my favorites.

I saw Now + Then Here + There not so long ago, yah ditto with the soul crushingly depressing D:. Also the ending confused me, but it was definitely a pretty decent series all in all, especially the earlier parts of it.

At 7/17/10 07:02 AM, DeIirium wrote: Rainbow - Nisha rokubo no shichinin. This show hasn't finished it's run yet since it started this year, but there are 15 episodes out. It's very dramatic and touching, often brings me to the verge of tears. Also very addicting.

I watched the first ep shortly after it came out and really liked it, but I'd rather wait for it to finish (autumn-ish I guess?) then watch it in one go rather than having to wait a week to see each next ep. But still that's definitely on my list.

thnx gaiz

I saw Summer Wars, the new film by Mamoru Hosoda, the director of The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, at the film festival the other day.

It was amazing.

I enjoyed The Girl Who Leapt Through Time, but I had some problems with its pacing which I felt kept it from being great. Summer Wars on the other hand is incredibly entertaining all the way through. It might be the most entertaining movie I've seen all year.

Plus there is a decent amount of social commentary, which adds some depth to the story.

With this film, Hosoda Mamoru is becoming one of my favourite directors.

Just started When They Cry Higurashi, watched first two eps and am a little creeped out. I may have trouble sleeping tonight.

At 7/17/10 07:20 PM, LaForge wrote: A serious anime that's easy on the brain would be Death Note.

I would suggest reading the manga instead. They're almost exactly the same, but I find that the manga has better pacing and doesn't ruin the plot twists for the reader. The anime had a bad habit of telling the viewer everything that was going to happen before it did, which killed the show.

At 7/18/10 08:14 AM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: Just started When They Cry Higurashi, watched first two eps and am a little creeped out. I may have trouble sleeping tonight.

I watched the first 5 minutes of the first episode and it was fucking mind numbingly retarded.. They were fighting over a sandwich or some shit, and the characters' eyes' were so big that they took half of their face. It seemed like a generic anime show, like it was parodying something.
I might try to watch this show again but i doubt that it will get good at any point.

At 7/18/10 12:32 PM, Deadly-Shadow wrote:

At 7/17/10 07:20 PM, LaForge wrote: A serious anime that's easy on the brain would be Death Note.

I would suggest reading the manga instead. They're almost exactly the same, but I find that the manga has better pacing and doesn't ruin the plot twists for the reader. The anime had a bad habit of telling the viewer everything that was going to happen before it did, which killed the show.

Potential spoiler alert:

Not to mention, they should have ended the show right when L died, and Light was on top of the world in a metaphorical way.

Alright, bananabread, you should watch One Piece(Pirates that are awesome), Sgt. Frog(A frog race trys to invade earth, but instead makes friends with one of the humans, and from there, hes stuck on earth), Hikaru No Go(An anime about a kid whos soul gets taken over by a ghost who has wanted to play Go again for generations). Those are my recomendations. I highly recomend One Piece, because I watched Gurren, and I loved One Piece much more. Maybe Fullmetal stuff. Fullmetal Alchemist, Brotherhood, and Panic.

BAnnannnaaaa Whatch all 500 episodes of naruto then all 300 episodes of bleach then report baxk to me k thnx . I will luck up this tred if u dont wach them all by next sturday

wow just got done with Witch BLade that anime was fucking great.

At 7/16/10 09:44 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: serious

Try Texhnolyze, if you don't mind the ultimate downer ending. It's still good, and the soundtrack is really good, too. or Ergo Proxy. I really want to restart Ergo Proxy and finish it this time.

At 7/17/10 12:41 AM, Mendou wrote:

At 7/16/10 10:44 PM, orangebomb wrote: maybe try Mad Bull 34 and Windaria, those are some pretty serious ones I'm watching.

>Mad Bull 34

>Serious

What the fuck?

haha Mad Bull is ridiculous goofy fun.

If you want a more serious anime. Now and Then, Here and There is one of the more dramatic shows that I've seen.

That show was really good.

At 7/18/10 11:50 PM, orangebomb wrote: Potential spoiler alert:

Not to mention, they should have ended the show right when L died, and Light was on top of the world in a metaphorical way.

They actually did have an ending like that for the anime, but then they decided to continue the anime like they did with the manga.

The second half of Death Note wasn't bad, but it could have been a lot better. Near was extremely uninteresting and it really didn't start to get good untill the end. I still enjoy the ending, but the first half of the second segment was pretty dull. Also, whoever designed Mello did a really poor job, which is unfortunate since he was one of the better characters in the series.

At 7/18/10 06:58 PM, LaForge wrote:

At 7/18/10 05:03 PM, DeIirium wrote:

At 7/18/10 08:14 AM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: Just started When They Cry Higurashi, watched first two eps and am a little creeped out. I may have trouble sleeping tonight.

I watched the first 5 minutes of the first episode and it was fucking mind numbingly retarded.. They were fighting over a sandwich or some shit, and the characters' eyes' were so big that they took half of their face. It seemed like a generic anime show, like it was parodying something.
I might try to watch this show again but i doubt that it will get good at any point.

Your fears are well founded. 50% of the show is petty squabbles like fighting over sandwiches and the other half is the antagonists widening their eyes (even further) and speaking slowly.

Ooooo, creepy.

This is just another reason why I love this place. The members of the club I can relate to big time as far as opinions on more popular series go. It's like my mind has been read. Anywho I'm thinking about ditching out on Otakon plans and opting to go to the New York Anime Festival instead. I have friends that live in New York City so I can just crash with them instead of paying for a hotel, not to mention I think the admission fee is cheaper than Otakon (even though $75 for all three days IS a really good price). Being broke and unemployed in a place that has no open job opportunities around sucks. :\

Anywho I'm looking for a new series to watch. Got anything to recommend to someone that enjoyed series such as Kara no Kyoukai, Soul Eater, Fate/Stay Night, Black Lagoon, Cowboy Bebop, FLCL, Welcome to the NHK, Golden Boy, Hokuto no Ken, and Great Teacher Onizuka (just to name a few)?

I am one of the few people who enjoy the second half of Death Note just as much as the first. Mello is probably my favorite character in the show, and i like Near too. I don't think the story gets any weaker, and a lot of the fangirls think that the second half sucks just because they thought L was hot and he wasn't in the show anymore, which is stupid.

At 7/19/10 07:09 PM, DeIirium wrote: Mello is probably my favorite character in the show,

Mello was interesting because he did things differently from other characters in the show. I like how he took the chaotic approach rather than the lawful way of catching Light. Unfortunatly they made Mello look extremely flamboyant, which ruined him a bit.

and i like Near too.

To me, Near was an exact copy of L which made him very uninteresting to watch. It would have been better if they came up with a more original character.

I don't think the story gets any weaker, and a lot of the fangirls think that the second half sucks just because they thought L was hot and he wasn't in the show anymore, which is stupid.

Yeah, too many people like the show because of L. He was my favourite character, but he didn't completly make the show for me.

At 7/16/10 10:50 AM, SomaGuye wrote: I'm going to ignore the drama that seems to be going on around here and just say I hope they remake Gantz as an anime when the manga finishes. It could have been really good, but they ruined it with terrible pacing and a horrible original ending.

Read the Manga instead, the manga is excellent and it's far ahead of the anime in the plot

Also, seeing as I was banned for 2 weeks I've had a lot of time to actually watch some anime.

I finished Yu Yu Hakusho which was a bittersweet experience

I started Soul Eater and am at episode 10 now

I also read some more manga, finishing Rurouni Kenshin ( I read the whole thing in a week) and getting back on track with Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.

I've just obtained the first season of One Piece for only 8 dollars.
Haven't watched it yet, but how the fuck can anyone pass up a deal like that?

At 7/20/10 03:47 AM, Gobblemeister wrote:

At 7/16/10 10:50 AM, SomaGuye wrote: I'm going to ignore the drama that seems to be going on around here and just say I hope they remake Gantz as an anime when the manga finishes. It could have been really good, but they ruined it with terrible pacing and a horrible original ending.

Read the Manga instead, the manga is excellent and it's far ahead of the anime in the plot

I do read the manga, that's why I want them to try and do the anime again, because there's so much more story and even the story the anime did cover wasn't done very well. Also some of the funniest parts come after where the anime ended.