At 1/11/10 04:56 AM, Aigis wrote:

At 1/11/10 02:40 AM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: also blah blah blah dubs are awesome, sub-only is weeaboo faggotry, etc blah blah blah

Hey, if I was watching, for example, a French cartoon, I'd do my best to watch it in French.

Ditto. I mean, my first language is Finnish, so most media I see is in foreign anyway. English is in fact only my third language. I've been watching subs my whole life.

At 1/11/10 04:56 AM, Aigis wrote:

At 1/11/10 02:40 AM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: also blah blah blah dubs are awesome, sub-only is weeaboo faggotry, etc blah blah blah

Hey, if I was watching, for example, a French cartoon, I'd do my best to watch it in French.

I don't really have a problem with subs, infact most of what I am currently watching is in Japanese. The problem lies with the stubborn, misguided and ill-informed fanbase that dubbed anime is all somehow inherently garbage which is not the case.

I also don't think it really matters where a cartoon comes from. If it's genuinely good it should be watched regardless of language. Also, like I said decide for yourself what sounds better as opposed to a pessimistic outlook on what you THINK sounds better.

Oh, and I just noticed, after I mentioned Mnemosyne in this thread I noticed this. Pretty awesome. I'M THE GOD!

I was at a comic shop today. Bunch of Manga there, but it was almost all some shoujo and similar shit. There were some issues of Buddha, Nausicäa, Barefoot Gen, Lone Wolf & Cub and stuff. Also some Yaoi and a Genshiken book. Didn't end up buing any Manga, though, everything was in a million volumes, and often incomplete. I did buy a Grave of the Fireflies DVD, just in case I want to be more depressed.

At 1/11/10 05:48 AM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: I also don't think it really matters where a cartoon comes from. If it's genuinely good it should be watched regardless of language.

Well sure. It's not as if there are THAT many people who would refuse to watch an anime just because they could only find it in dub form.

Also, like I said decide for yourself what sounds better as opposed to a pessimistic outlook on what you THINK sounds better.

Usually it just feels more authentic to watch it in sub form. These cartoons were designed to be watched in Japanese.

I tend to be particularly fussy about it when the cartoon is actually set in Japan, or has been influenced by Japanese culture in a particularly obvious way. It would be weird watching, say, Paranoia Agent in English.

When it's set somewhere else, I'm less fussy about it. Especially when, in the original, it was implied that the characters were speaking in English (e.g. Black Lagoon).

At 1/11/10 01:19 PM, JohnnyWang wrote: Also some Yaoi and a Genshiken book.

That reminds me, I always find it hilarious whenever I go over to the U.S. and see hentai DVD's in FYE. They don't stock anything like that in Canadian stores, so it's really unusual for me to see.

And before anyone asks, NO I didn't buy any of them...

I prefer watching anime in the original audio instead of dubbed. Even though it takes more effort, i reckon its better. for example Fate stay night was great in subbed really bad in dubbed

So, I'm watching shaman king right now. It's pretty decent.

Kinda reminds me of yu yu hakusho mixed with hunter x hunter mixed with a less shitty soul eater.

I just watched the first episode of Chu-Bra! and I don't know what to say.
Am I a lesbian?

I just joined an Anime Club at my school, and I love it. (I just hate the other kids there. They should burn in hell.) But you guys are awesome!

Anyone else hate those anime site chatango chat boxes? They always piss me off. It's always either a bunch of 13 year olds cybering talking about naruto or a bunch of regulars sucking each other off. Then again, that's the internet.

At 1/11/10 08:28 PM, barrywu998 wrote: I prefer watching anime in the original audio instead of dubbed. Even though it takes more effort, i reckon its better. for example Fate stay night was great in subbed really bad in dubbed

The fuck? Fate bad in English? I prefer the Japanese audio if only because it makes alot more sense seeing how it takes place in Japan and the voices match better, but in no way is it bad. it's actually very well done. What are you talking about?

Also "reckoning" is not a good basis for actually knowing.

At 1/12/10 12:07 PM, Mendou wrote: On another note, still going through Seed Destiny.

I've never watched a Gundam series before, I figure that I should probably watch one some time. If I ever do watch one, which should it be?

Yay! I just want to say everyone here I´m officially an otaku.

What´s up with yaoi club, it is a branch of the anime similar to the yuri. Shouldn´t it be in this club?

At 1/13/10 11:39 PM, IngeniousCheese wrote: Yay! I just want to say everyone here I´m officially an otaku.

What´s up with yaoi club, it is a branch of the anime similar to the yuri. Shouldn´t it be in this club?

Technically, so should the Naruto and Bleach clubs, but they're separate and NG's custom BBS system doesn't allow for thread merging, so we're all stuck.

At 1/13/10 11:50 PM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote: Technically, so should the Naruto and Bleach clubs, but they're separate and NG's custom BBS system doesn't allow for thread merging, so we're all stuck.

Well I didn´t know they have their own club, and yes they should be with this club, after all they are anime.

At 1/14/10 12:33 AM, IngeniousCheese wrote:

At 1/13/10 11:50 PM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote: Technically, so should the Naruto and Bleach clubs, but they're separate and NG's custom BBS system doesn't allow for thread merging, so we're all stuck.

Well I didn´t know they have their own club, and yes they should be with this club, after all they are anime.

Technically they're anime... but they're not very good anime.

Speaking about horrible anime, Tsukihime.

IT DOESN'T EXIST, THERE IS NO TSUKIHIME ANIME.

i'd love to join, though i have read more manga than i have watched anime to be truthful. can i still join tho?

I've watched a few episodes of Gurren Lagan. I probably spelled that wrong. Gurren Lagen? Laegen? Whatever you know what I'm talking about.

Is this show supposed to be a parody or it is just weird as shit?

At 1/13/10 11:39 PM, IngeniousCheese wrote: Yay! I just want to say everyone here I´m officially an otaku.

I really don't understand why people say stuff like this.

"Hey everyone, I'm officially an obsessive geek."

At 1/14/10 01:18 AM, Aigis wrote: I really don't understand why people say stuff like this.

"Hey everyone, I'm officially an obsessive geek."

English is full of loanwords that mwan different from what the word means in the original language. And the word doesn't have as a negative connotation in Japanese as it had twenty years ago. It still has a negative connnotation, but considering "pedofiliac murderer" was a common connotation in the late 80's...

At 1/14/10 07:17 AM, JohnnyWang wrote: English is full of loanwords that mwan different from what the word means in the original language. And the word doesn't have as a negative connotation in Japanese as it had twenty years ago. It still has a negative connnotation, but considering "pedofiliac murderer" was a common connotation in the late 80's...

Hey man, I've been around Japanese teenagers.

I know what they use 'otaku' to describe.

At 1/14/10 07:49 AM, Aigis wrote: Hey man, I've been around Japanese teenagers.

I know what they use 'otaku' to describe.

Something akin to "pathetic wanker"? Believe me, it's an improvement of what it used to mean.

And still. When people adopt a term from another language, it generally changes part of its meaning, because the cultural context where the term is from, and the cultural context where its adopted are often different.

But seriously, compare the public opinion of people who play role playing games back int he 80's, and now. Back then, they were thought to be stan worshippers and psychopaths. now just fat neckbeards sitting in a basement. Neither view is positive, but one is more negative than the other.

At 1/14/10 12:46 AM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: Speaking about horrible anime, Tsukihime.

IT DOESN'T EXIST, THERE IS NO TSUKIHIME ANIME.

But there is a Tsukihime game.
And a (unrelated) Tsukihime song.

At 1/14/10 12:46 AM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: Technically they're anime... but they're not very good anime.

This is an Anime Club, for good and bad animes.

I don´t know what´s the problem with this thing of otaku. At least I know in my country Otaku is a japanese term to refer to people with particular interests in anime, manga, and video games .In Japan, is considered one word to describe a fan of something, even some Japanese regard the use of the word an insult, that can be the reason you think is an insult Aegis.

At 1/14/10 08:55 AM, JohnnyWang wrote: But seriously, compare the public opinion of people who play role playing games back int he 80's, and now. Back then, they were thought to be stan worshippers and psychopaths. now just fat neckbeards sitting in a basement. Neither view is positive, but one is more negative than the other.

I really don't know what your point is. I mean, I was using the modern meaning of the word 'otaku', not the 1980s meaning.

At 1/14/10 05:57 PM, IngeniousCheese wrote: In Japan, is considered one word to describe a fan of something, even some Japanese regard the use of the word an insult, that can be the reason you think is an insult Aegis.

Yes. The reason I think it's an insult is because in Japanese the word is generally an insult.

Japanese has other words to describe fans of things. 'Otaku' is a word that is used to describe obsessive fans of things.

And the fact that, in English, you would describe your interests in Japanese media using a Japanese word just makes you sound like a ridiculous Japanophile.

At 1/14/10 06:32 PM, Aigis wrote: I really don't know what your point is. I mean, I was using the modern meaning of the word 'otaku', not the 1980s meaning.

Point being that the meaning of a word is not static. It changes over time, and over cultures, when it's borrowed. So I'm saying that western anime-and-japanese-pop-culture-loving teens using the word "Otaku" for themselves is not as weird as you make it to be.

Besides, don't Japanses Otaku use the term for themselves/eachother?

But semantics debate aside. Grave of the Fireflies; masterpice, depressing.

At 1/14/10 06:32 PM, Aigis wrote: And the fact that, in English, you would describe your interests in Japanese media using a Japanese word just makes you sound like a ridiculous Japanophile.

*sigh* Anime fandom is not in any way unique in this. Many subcultures centered around foreign works (in music, usually) often borrow elements of the source culture. Isn't it just enough you don't use the term yourself? People inside the fandom differ from eachother, people have different labels.

As for syaing one doesn't need labels, you kinda do. Everyone you meet is not going to know your entire life story, so you need to condence it a bit.

At 1/14/10 06:50 PM, JohnnyWang wrote: Everyone you meet is not going to know your entire life story, so you need to condence it a bit.

When I meet people, I usually don't head a description of myself with 'oh yeah, I'm a fan of anime'.

I've got more important things to talk about.

Are everyone here always so unpleasant here? I just wanted to say that otaku is a synonym for a little bit more exaggerated fan, it was also my fault that I did not know exactly what it was. I'm not obsessed with it let´s just say I spend half of my free time watching anime, reading manga and I like video games, but I'm not hooked. As for the other things otaku make, like going to conventions and dress up characters are things I don´t like because I hardly leave my house and I am very calm. (it´s also for noobs)
I also thought I was one because they say that an Otaku has a list of known animes to see to become one and I saw what it is need.

At 1/14/10 09:27 PM, IngeniousCheese wrote: I also thought I was one because they say that an Otaku has a list of known animes to see to become one and I saw what it is need.

You shouldn't be labelling yourself anyway.

Labels are for chumps.