At 5/2/07 01:36 PM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote:

So..Don't make generalizations about what all the members of this club think!

I was mainly talking about the higher-ups of this club. Those ARE the people that decide whether or not you join, are they not? So posting a picture of Inuyasha isn't a good idea if you are trying to score any points with the leaders.

At 5/2/07 02:52 PM, Akatsuki321 wrote: Anyway im wondering what i should watch today, More ranma 1/2? maybe watch a series iv haven't seen before? not sure.

Or instead of wasting a post with personal schedule dictating, we can all just debate Mecha Security (old related existing article on MAHQ continuity debate).

And since I'm the bearer of /M/ around here, I'll make things easier by starting off:

In almost every series ever since the debut of Mazinger Z by Go Nagai, it is almost a custom or even a ritural that the main character would start off by stealing or taking into posession a robot several times his/her own size. You might argue that the Super Robots are meant for fighting against an enemy who would never be able to use such a machine in the first place, but what about the Real Robots?

Unlike the typical Super Robots, almost all Real Robots are developed and used by military factions or big organisations and usually mass produced to a grand scale. Units like the M9 Gernsback (FMP), the famous MS-06 series (Gundam Series) and to a lesser extent the Aestevali (Nadesico) are all used by non-specialist soldiers and are deployed in big numbers YET the security is at an all-time low even with anti-personnel stationed around the hangars and bays.

The real irony is that non-mass produced war-turning robots are even poorly guarded. Characters like Amuro (Gundam), Kamille (Z Gundam), Gato (Gundam 0083) and even Ryusei Datte (SRW) got into a very heavily funded military machine which was intended for special purposes such as tactical warfare, stealth, prototype testing and so on. Even the most fundamental of security features such as a clearance card or ignition key is not present on the machine in any form. It is as if the units are that vulnerable to theft in the hands on an intruder.

Now let's see this from the Super Robots' perspective. Even if their machines are not mass produced or even expensive to maintain, many series has demonstrated that their security is top-notch. EVA Units have their pilot-synching requirement which stops typical intruders, the System Box requires the exact same user to Tek-Set, and let's not forget the GGG; which most probably has the highest level of security clearance to date (sentinent robots, swipe-cards, voice recognition, synchronisation, multiple levels of approval, etc...).

At 5/2/07 03:24 PM, HaroFreak wrote:

Or instead of wasting a post with personal schedule dictating, we can all just debate Mecha Security (old related existing article on MAHQ continuity debate).

There are also those circumastances where the future pilot meets up with the Mech because it either moved on its own or was revealed because of an attack (as in Dual, where the mech crashes and the hatch opens, with the real pilot injured inside. I think in the Zone of the Enders game the place where the mech was stored was attacked, so the future pilot had an opening.)

At least in G Gundam, the control system for the gundam was its own security. Like when the kid got into God Gundam, and the material that covers his body nearly kills him.

But yes, security on Robots is really lacking. They are constantly left out/not guarded, and with expensive and complex machines like those, you'd atleast think they would all have a key card or voice system. Like couldn't all Zaku's require a Zeon Pilot Card? Or maybe have a connection to a large database with all pilots and then could use a scanning (eye, voice, dna) system.

Of course, random kids getting into Mechs and becoming awesome pilots is just one of those things that has to be accepted, because it is one of those impossible events that starts a series.

Like what are the chances that a bounty hunter whose top 3 dislikes are kids, animals, and women with attitude would end up having all three with him?

On a semi-related note, I added some COURAGE to my
freewebs page.

At 5/2/07 03:24 PM, HaroFreak wrote:

At 5/2/07 02:52 PM, Akatsuki321 wrote: Anyway im wondering what i should watch today, More ranma 1/2? maybe watch a series iv haven't seen before? not sure.

well i have yet to finish buso renkin and BECK and i haven't gotten the time to finish watching them. i suggest you finish a series before starting a new one.

At 5/2/07 04:17 PM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: There are also those circumastances where the future pilot meets up with the Mech because it either moved on its own or was revealed because of an attack (as in Dual, where the mech crashes and the hatch opens, with the real pilot injured inside. I think in the Zone of the Enders game the place where the mech was stored was attacked, so the future pilot had an opening.)

One of the rarer ones would be Usso Evin from V Gundam; he practically hijacks one from a high ranking officer, thought that is just the Grandson of Char at work. XD

Another one would be the ARX-7 Arbalast; as Sosuke was entrusted with it by his cute loli superior. And let's not forget the Bonta-kun as well; Sosuke literally built an Armor Slave INSIDE the suit, its popularity was even recognised and the Bonta-Kun is a usable unit in SRW J and W (with a ridiculously high evasion and attack rate).

At least in G Gundam, the control system for the gundam was its own security. Like when the kid got into God Gundam, and the material that covers his body nearly kills him.

Which is why I like the Mobile Trace System over the usual pilot interfaces, it cannot be handled by just any passer-by either. Not to mention the material suit contains sensors which check the user's pulse, blood pressure and most probably fingerprints and maybe even DNA.

But yes, security on Robots is really lacking. They are constantly left out/not guarded, and with expensive and complex machines like those, you'd atleast think they would all have a key card or voice system. Like couldn't all Zaku's require a Zeon Pilot Card? Or maybe have a connection to a large database with all pilots and then could use a scanning (eye, voice, dna) system.

I don't see why not, though I won't be surprised if the situation was that the war escalated to a point where they had to throw whatever they can get their hands on out for deployment. Of course, the Feddies were no better despite their GMs and mass produced Gundam units.

Of course, random kids getting into Mechs and becoming awesome pilots is just one of those things that has to be accepted, because it is one of those impossible events that starts a series.

It has been the case ever since Tetsujin 28-Go, though the stereotype has its many variants which keeps things interesting. The point about those classic Super Robot Shows is that the machines were built by their seniors and most probably intended for them to pilot them in the first place, unlike some units which were quite literally stolen from their enemy.

Like what are the chances that a bounty hunter whose top 3 dislikes are kids, animals, and women with attitude would end up having all three with him?

I am not too sure about the former two, though I believe that the latter is most likely a typical case of Tsunderekko.

On a semi-related note, I added some COURAGE to my
freewebs page.

Best. Weapon. Ever.
Now if you only included the previous frame from that video clip. XDDD

At 5/2/07 04:42 PM, HaroFreak wrote:
Best. Weapon. Ever.
Now if you only included the previous frame from that video clip. XDDD

You mean this frame?

[You probably wanted a few frames sooner, but I think this is more postworthy/appropriate]

At 5/2/07 05:51 PM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: You mean this frame?

Yus.

[You probably wanted a few frames sooner, but I think this is more postworthy/appropriate]

That one line of Mikoto actually made it into the inside case of the GaOh Collection (All 10 various Yuushaoh Tanjou mixes, including the Grand Glorious Gathering version and Pre-GGG version).

Better yet, it's appropriately shiny.

At 5/2/07 08:50 AM, atumdao wrote: i wanna joinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8DLQVIzEM I

Um, I want you to die. Here are my reasons. Number one: You like inu yasha. FAIL. Number two: Your post was less then 4 words. DIE. Number 3, you posted a retarded link having NOTHING to do with anume. So, um die plz.

At 5/2/07 03:24 PM, HaroFreak wrote:

Or instead of wasting a post with personal schedule dictating, we can all just debate Mecha Security (old related existing article on MAHQ continuity debate).

Mecha talk.. and how the hell should I begin to talk in here (I didn't say to much since I'm here at all).. never have seen one before and maybe never will.. don't like it to much I think.

At 5/1/07 11:36 PM, Wonko-the-Sane wrote: You're not required to explain yourselves to kouga.

I know that. We were merely trading ideas about the interviews.

Also, I thought it'd been established that I am the God-king of this club. That's what Gendo (the dictator) said anyway.

Heil Gendo!

The interview should be held in IM or PM's,

Decent idea, but how exactly would beable to pull that off with ease? Most new kids are gonna read the first page and then post "HAI, CAN I JOIN, LULZ?!"

I would however request that another authority figure see's a copy of it, so one person doesn't decided to let their friends who don't know crap about shit in (I'm looking at you Gendo).

If you're talking about Akatsuki, he's not my fault, he joined long before befriending me. Also, if anything, I'm one of the more tight-ass elitists, so you can be guaranteed I won't let those with no taste or brains join.

At 5/2/07 02:52 PM, Akatsuki321 wrote: Inuyasha was merely a phase that all of use probably went through,

Oh believe me, it certainly was for me.

I initially hated the series (I was a big Evangelion fanboy back in the day, so nothing compared to that for me), then I got really big on it from about 2001-2004.

After that, I stopped watching anime for about two years and then re-discovered old favorites.

Anyway im wondering what i should watch today, More ranma 1/2? maybe watch a series iv haven't seen before? not sure.

Fuck new shit, moar Ranma = DO WANT

RANMA> ANY OTHER ANIME. THIS IS A FACT PEOPLE, ACCEPT IT OR DIE.

At 5/2/07 08:12 PM, uhnoesanoob wrote: RANMA> ANY OTHER ANIME. THIS IS A FACT PEOPLE, ACCEPT IT OR DIE.

Turn caps lock off, for God's sake.

Also, I agree with the white hot intensity of a thousand suns.

At 5/2/07 08:12 PM, uhnoesanoob wrote: RANMA> ANY OTHER ANIME. THIS IS A FACT PEOPLE, ACCEPT IT OR DIE.

Never seen it personally, but I heard that it was one season of laughs, and 40 seasons of filler.

I suppose if I ever got the money, I'd sit and watch it. As of now, I'm short on time and money, which sucks doubly for any anime fan. I'm sure some of you can attest to that fact as well.

Ah well. Here's to getting a new job. Cheers. ^^

At 5/2/07 08:24 PM, SoReal0 wrote:

At 5/2/07 08:12 PM, uhnoesanoob wrote: RANMA> ANY OTHER ANIME. THIS IS A FACT PEOPLE, ACCEPT IT OR DIE.

Never seen it personally, but I heard that it was one season of laughs, and 40 seasons of filler.

I suppose if I ever got the money, I'd sit and watch it. As of now, I'm short on time and money, which sucks doubly for any anime fan. I'm sure some of you can attest to that fact as well.

Ah well. Here's to getting a new job. Cheers. ^^

Speaking of cheers, today happens to be the day my Dad died... so every year on the day of his death we have a family gathering at a bar,[I am half irish] and we drink one remembering him.

Ranma's fillers are not really fillers as much as genius, btw

At 5/2/07 08:24 PM, SoReal0 wrote: Never seen it personally, but I heard that it was one season of laughs, and 40 seasons of filler.

It's more like one season of plot, a season of lulz and then filler for the rest. But the filler is quite watchable.

I suppose if I ever got the money, I'd sit and watch it.

You owe it to yourself.

As of now, I'm short on time and money, which sucks doubly for any anime fan. I'm sure some of you can attest to that fact as well.

Fuck yes, in fact, I'm broke now, around two bucks in my pocket...

Ah well. Here's to getting a new job. Cheers. ^^

Huzzah!

There's a few other points I need to bring up with the new rules.

1) A clear yes or no answer on whether we will still choose characters.

2) Do we still need the members list?

If we are still choosing characters, then the same gender rule still applies, I don't care how much anyone bitches.

At 5/2/07 08:28 PM, Gendo wrote:

At 5/2/07 08:24 PM, SoReal0 wrote: I suppose if I ever got the money, I'd sit and watch it.

You owe it to yourself.

Leet. Thanks for the recommend. As soon as the cash flow starts moving again, I'll look into it. I think my friends have the VHSs for it, though. Disappointing as that may be, I'd rather put up with shitty quality than $30 price tags for each DVD. xD

At 5/2/07 10:59 PM, Wonko-the-Sane wrote: If we are still choosing characters, then the same gender rule still applies, I don't care how much anyone bitches.

Hope this doesn't sound like bitching, but I'm itching to inquire as to why that rule would be put into place. I mean, I see no harm in removing it, and I'm personally fine with it, I'm just wondering what the purpose of it is, if any at all. =\

At 5/2/07 11:11 PM, SoReal0 wrote:

At 5/2/07 10:59 PM, Wonko-the-Sane wrote: If we are still choosing characters, then the same gender rule still applies, I don't care how much anyone bitches.

Hope this doesn't sound like bitching, but I'm itching to inquire as to why that rule would be put into place. I mean, I see no harm in removing it, and I'm personally fine with it, I'm just wondering what the purpose of it is, if any at all. =\

The original purpose had to so with the RolePlaying we did in the club. It prevented...freaky...moments. Now, it's just my personal preference.

At 5/2/07 10:59 PM, Wonko-the-Sane wrote:

The original purpose had to so with the RolePlaying we did in the club. It prevented...freaky...moments. Now, it's just my personal preference.

Ah. That makes sense now.

I didn't know you guys did roleplaying... That sounds kind of interesting! Link or PM with more information, please?

At 5/2/07 10:59 PM, Wonko-the-Sane wrote: There's a few other points I need to bring up with the new rules.

1) A clear yes or no answer on whether we will still choose characters.

Yes. And Yes with same gender.

2) Do we still need the members list?

Yes.

At 5/2/07 11:34 PM, SoReal0 wrote:

I didn't know you guys did roleplaying... That sounds kind of interesting! Link or PM with more information, please?

Well we haven't for a long time..at least not since I've been here. We have a seperate forum and it might have RPing, though I don't go there so I don't know what they are up to.

At 5/2/07 11:22 PM, Wonko-the-Sane wrote: The original purpose had to so with the RolePlaying we did in the club. It prevented...freaky...moments. Now, it's just my personal preference.

God, you're such a homophobe.

At 5/2/07 07:31 PM, TiraLu wrote: Mecha talk.. and how the hell should I begin to talk in here (I didn't say to much since I'm here at all).. never have seen one before and maybe never will.. don't like it to much I think.

Don't worry, we don't expect everyone to contribute as it is a relatively specialised topic I have selected.

At 5/2/07 10:59 PM, Wonko-the-Sane wrote: 1) A clear yes or no answer on whether we will still choose characters.

First things first I believe.
Whwt will the characters be used for? The roleplay board, or is it just for the sake of identity?

2) Do we still need the members list?

The Member List still serves the purpose of listing all the accepted people, doesn't it. As for keeping an offline list of those who are not wecome, I'll leave that up to you. XD

At 5/3/07 12:29 AM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: Well we haven't for a long time..at least not since I've been here. We have a seperate forum and it might have RPing, though I don't go there so I don't know what they are up to.

The separate forms do have RPing, though there has been no signs of growth whatsoever.

At 5/3/07 01:34 AM, Kuro wrote:

At 5/2/07 11:22 PM, Wonko-the-Sane wrote: The original purpose had to so with the RolePlaying we did in the club. It prevented...freaky...moments. Now, it's just my personal preference.

God, you're such a homophobe.

I calculated it out. In the two years I've been in the Marine Corps, I've seen over two thousand men naked. We regularly slap each other on the ass and say "good game" no matter what the circumstance when we do this. In conversations those of us who were recently in Iraq tend to randomly shout "LOOK AT MY DICK!" Everything is a joke about someone else being gay. Everything. And I'm a homophobe?

At 5/3/07 06:29 AM, Wonko-the-Sane wrote: I've seen over two thousand men naked. We regularly slap each other on the ass and say "good game" no matter what the circumstance when we do this. In conversations those of us who were recently in Iraq tend to randomly shout "LOOK AT MY DICK!" Everything is a joke about someone else being gay. Everything.

AND YET YOU HATE TRANSVESTITES.

At 5/3/07 07:24 AM, Kuro wrote: AND YET YOU HATE TRANSVESTITES.

Stop starting shit. He never said he hated them, he just did not like the thought of traps spawning around the RP boards because it creeps him out.

If put in a formula for you, Creeps-one-out != hate

Now stop complaining about it to him.

At 5/3/07 07:37 AM, HaroFreak wrote: Stop starting shit. He never said he hated them, he just did not like the thought of traps spawning around the RP boards because it creeps him out.

If put in a formula for you, Creeps-one-out != hate

Now stop complaining about it to him.

Hah, I know, I'm not being serious in my allegations.

At 5/3/07 07:44 AM, Kuro wrote: Hah, I know, I'm not being serious in my allegations.

Despite that, I still find 'trap reads' funny especially with more ambiguous characters which never have their genders stated except in the games (such as Dori and Gura from Utawarerumono, their gender was never stated clearly except in the games they came from).

At 5/2/07 11:22 PM, Wonko-the-Sane wrote: The original purpose had to so with the RolePlaying we did in the club. It prevented...freaky...moments. Now, it's just my personal preference.

Just out of curiosity, who is your character?

At 5/3/07 09:34 AM, LLStarks wrote: Just out of curiosity, who is your character?

It is on the Member List page with a link in your text signature.

...

Now back to the /M/, damn it.

So we last left off with mecha and security features, so just how practical is adding complicated security features in mass production units which we can assume is as common as a humvee or a tank in the present day? Is it an expensive procedure for something which is expected to take heavy damage, or would it be manufacturing difficulties during war-time?

But let's take the units which are expected to take all kinds of damage/abuse such as the majority of the Gundam series of units in every timeline/universe as an example; the RX-78-2 was intended to be the first unit to be able to posess firepower that rivals the weapon caliber of ships at that time despite its size, the GP-02A was an illegal tactical nuclear platform and the ZGMF-X10A did not only have unlimited combat endurance (due to Neturon Jammer Canceller and a nuclear reactor) but also posessed ridiculous firepower as well as a special anti-ballistic armor.

As you can tell by my description of the above units, they are units which you at least expect to have a certain degree of security, but that was clearly not the case as each one was stolen in every way known.

An exception to the vast number of Gundam units would be the GX9900, GT9600 and GW9800 series (including their variants). Despite the fact that they were more than one of each unit manufactured and even mass-produced to an extent, each unit had one common key which prevented anyone from taking a unit for themselves; the G-Controller which acts as a security verification and control interface which is attached/detatched from the system board of the MS and taken along with their assigned pilot.

Don't get me wrong though; the GX9900, GT9600 and GW9800 were powerful units as well and not the typical machines which can be optimised by any pilot alone. The GT9600 was intended for support fire and strafing, the GW9800 was capable of transforming for atmosphere combat, and the GX9900 was designed to receive a microwave ray from the Moon Base and output the energy from a "Satellite Cannon" which was capable of destroying colonies. All of them were also equipped with a Flash System, which allowed pilots with enhanced senses to control Mobile-Bits; which were literally unmanned Mobile Suits with similar weapons to their respective units which served similar functions.

So is the technology and concern regarding security in the AW timeline taken more seriously, or what?

Discuss.

At 5/3/07 10:07 AM, HaroFreak wrote:

At 5/3/07 09:34 AM, LLStarks wrote: Just out of curiosity, who is your character?

It is on the Member List page with a link in your text signature.

Last time I had checked, it was blank next to his name...