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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 11:52:19


At 4/22/07 11:46 AM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: Are you talking about the Outlaw Star episode?

Yes.

It was an episode that wasn't aired, but I don't know if it was fillers, because it explained where Gene got those last powerful Caster shells from.

Was it? I could not tell as I only watched it in a DVD Boxset and they inserted it chronologically without markings.

The Caster Shells seem horribly weak and less flashy compared to their manga counterparts, maybe it is just the art difference.


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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 11:53:27


At 4/22/07 11:46 AM, HaroFreak wrote: It is not like online shopping is as complicated or user-unfriendly as mail-ordering or phone-ordering is it. You can even view the images on a single monitor instead of having to check through a potentially out-of-date catalogue.

Yeah, it's far more convienent than people think.

At 4/22/07 11:46 AM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: Picture of Anderson from newest OVA...just for the hell of it...

I'm sure that line will get butchered in the dub, lest it sound silly.

Funny thing is, just from reading it I can hear Steven Brand saying it, and it's the fucking lulz.

Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 12:06:59


At 4/22/07 11:53 AM, Gendo wrote: Yeah, it's far more convienent than people think.

If there is one hurdle I can think of when online shopping, it would be knowing which suppliers are trustable and which connections are secure enough to punch in your credit card through.

(I make most of my game orders from Play-Asia, and it has delivered to me overseas within four days; pretty damn good if I say so myself)

As for manga orders, I am yet to find a supplier which sells the Futari-Ecchi series of books online and delivers worldwide.


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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 12:17:51


At 4/22/07 11:53 AM, Gendo wrote:
Picture of Anderson from newest OVA...just for the hell of it...
I'm sure that line will get butchered in the dub, lest it sound silly.

Funny thing is, just from reading it I can hear Steven Brand saying it, and it's the fucking lulz.

Thou shalt break them With a rod of iron
Thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel
Be wise now therefore, O ye kings;
be instructed ye judges of the earth
Server the LORD with fear...
and rejoice with trembling
Kiss the Son...
lest he be angry, and ye perrish from the way,
when his wrath is kindled but a little
Arise O Lord;
let not man prevail
let the heathen be judged in thy sight
I shall purify all in one righteous sweep! Stand before me!

I want to know! What are Iscariot? What are the Vatican? If We can't stop you heathens?

Oh How I waited for this! Come on!

It's about time we got to know each other better! Oh Judas Priest!

[Just for the hell of it] - typos are in subtitles

Eh...I like the red clothes & hat better.

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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 12:48:57


At 4/22/07 12:17 PM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: Eh...I like the red clothes & hat better.

Blame those who mistaken him for Carmen Sandiego one time too many. <.<


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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 13:11:48


Well now I'm practically finished with Magipoka. I had to convert it with subtitles because VLC was having problems w/ freezing and stuff. Also watched Frisky Dingo...very awesome. I still have Coyote Ragtime Show to watch, but I'm in no rush...I might not even keep it.

At 4/22/07 12:48 PM, HaroFreak wrote:
At 4/22/07 12:17 PM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: Eh...I like the red clothes & hat better.
Blame those who mistaken him for Carmen Sandiego one time too many. <.<

I can see why...

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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 13:53:20


I have an essay about anime ideas and copytight, if you don't mind putting aside a few minutes to read, i'll post it here.

Is Copyright really Copyright???

Usually in media and numerous other trades, one can copyright their idea and sue another for using their idea if they didn't license or pay royalties.

Of course people can copy names of characters no problem e.g. card captors sakura, haruna sakura, tenchi's sakura, sakura TV on death note. Hinata is also a well used name in anime. Yugi also.

The truth is I see lots of trends of the looks of characters, one character in an anime show is imitating another and the original designers don't give a damn.

What's else with this is that it's because a lot of anime characters, are taken from historical figures.

For example mitsurugi. Did namco ask ninja scroll permission to have a character mitsurugi, maybe, but namco could easily use that character and say the idea comes from historical context.
Because there may have been a famous samurai named mitsurugi.

and agian. We have sarutobi sasuke. If I get a historical source and prove i've researched sarutobi sasuke, and the description is similar to uchiha sasuke, then I could make a character exactly like uchiha sasuke no problem, and even call him sasuke, use the same voice actor, make him look similar but not exactly the same, I could give him short spiky hair, make him pale, give him black eyes etc but not the particular style uchiha sasuke has. as long I don't use uchiha, sharingham or anything that's not from historical origon. and who wouldn't do that, it works only too well? I'll just say, I happened to research the same places as Kishi did and they may colclude that he was so great you couldn't miss him when researching. On top of that in memoirs of a geisha there's an artist called Uchida, Uchida is an actual family name in japan, like smith, or if you met lots of natives there you may meet a person called uchida and decide you like the person or name and want to use it in a character, and you can't be sued for making characters with real life family names. So I can call him Uchida Sasuke, without copying someone. If someone never saw naruto, made friends with a couple of native japs, read memoirs of a geisha and researced famous samurai they could possibly think of that name.
I coulud even add on that my sasuke also likes art which enforces that the idea genuinely came from Arthur Golden. So if I play my cards right, I could virtually copy a popular character from a popular show and not be breaking the law. The fact that i'm a narutard is irrelevant.

Also raphael yu gi oh, there's also raphael from soul calibur 2. They look the same, act the same, both got taken away from their families by an evil demonic entity, only difference, their occupation has been adapted to the theme of the show and nothing else.
If I was namco i'd walk up to the yu gi oh authors and say "what do you think you're doing". But if it caused a serious breach of copyright taken to court the arc with raphael in it wouldn't have been aired let alone dubbed. So I assume namco did nothing.
I asked people about this and it's possible that raphael was a historical figure with blonde hair. with that, it means anyone can use that character.

You'd also think cloud's sword is unique and copywrited, but look at zabuza's and seigfried's sword. No court cases there.

and you thought pegasus was unique, you thought wrong on the best 100 characters, number 64 looked exactly like pegasus but his eyes were black not yellow. Do japanese not copyright their characters or something?

I designed this character called morgan, who's an italian pagan, with long white hair and bejewled glasses. I saw a trinity blood illustration and he looked exactly like my character except the glasses were round and plain instead.
If I used my char in a commercial show they could sue me for similarities, but the truth is I has no knowledge of abel or trinity blood till after I made morgan true enough. They can either beleive that we happened to have the same idea or that I just took their character and changed his glasses and religion. How can I defend myself.
But then I found out LOADS of anime shows have 4 eyed tall pale dudes with long white hair(full metal panic is one example). I could just nick one and no one suspects a thing. As he'd fit in with my other characters instead of their ones he won't be exactly the same.

I've always wanted to ask a lawyer for an opinion on this. as to what can be copied and what can't, it seems a simple enough question but not so after what i've just pointed out.

Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 14:12:57


At 4/22/07 01:53 PM, natwel wrote: I've always wanted to ask a lawyer for an opinion on this. as to what can be copied and what can't, it seems a simple enough question but not so after what i've just pointed out.

All I can contribute to this case is the fact that this issue has been long debated, though (to my current knowledge of the situation) it usually concludes as a very thin line between 'coincidence' and actual 'copyright infringement'.

What I can declare, however, is that each case has to be viewed independently from another and therefore no 'absolute' conclusion can be drawn from it. It is, once again, almost identical to the thin line between homage and theft (e.g. Barret Wallace and a certain A-Team member).


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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 14:46:59


At 4/22/07 12:17 PM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: Thou shalt break them With a rod of iron
Thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel
Be wise now therefore, O ye kings;
be instructed ye judges of the earth
Server the LORD with fear...
and rejoice with trembling
Kiss the Son...
lest he be angry, and ye perrish from the way,
when his wrath is kindled but a little
Arise O Lord;
let not man prevail
let the heathen be judged in thy sight
I shall purify all in one righteous sweep! Stand before me!

I want to know! What are Iscariot? What are the Vatican? If We can't stop you heathens?

Oh How I waited for this! Come on!

It's about time we got to know each other better! Oh Judas Priest!

The best thing I've ever read, ever.

I can imagine the entire dialogue there, and it wins.

Eh...I like the red clothes & hat better.

Agreed, Alucard's disguise was pretty lame looking.

At 4/22/07 01:53 PM, natwel wrote: Of course people can copy names of characters no problem e.g. card captors sakura, haruna sakura, tenchi's sakura, sakura TV on death note. Hinata is also a well used name in anime. Yugi also.

Generic names = impossible to copyright.

Habeeb it.

That'd be like saying any book, movie or TV series witha character named Homer is plagarizing The Simpsons.

For example mitsurugi. Did namco ask ninja scroll permission to have a character mitsurugi, maybe, but namco could easily use that character and say the idea comes from historical context.

You're being totally foolish.

Heishiro Mitsurugi (SC) is based on Miyamoto Musashi, not any Ninja Scroll character.

You'd also think cloud's sword is unique and copywrited, but look at zabuza's and seigfried's sword. No court cases there.

Hahahahahaha, shut up.

You really wasted a lot of time typing that, because you're around a million miles from making a point.

Who gives a shit if a character has the same name or similar traits as another? That doesn't mean "OH SHIT, WE SHOULD SUE THEM!".

Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 14:50:57


At 4/22/07 02:46 PM, Gendo wrote: Who gives a shit if a character has the same name or similar traits as another? That doesn't mean "OH SHIT, WE SHOULD SUE THEM!".

What next, the designer of Gundam SEED characters suing the designer of the Fafner and Heroric Age characters?

Of course not, because it will create a Time Paradox.


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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 14:54:29


At 4/22/07 02:50 PM, HaroFreak wrote: What next, the designer of Gundam SEED characters suing the designer of the Fafner and Heroric Age characters?

Could happen.

Of course not, because it will create a Time Paradox.

Actually, it is possible to self-plagiarize.

That said, it's unlikely Mr. Hirai would ever be convicted of such an offence.

Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 14:59:02


At 4/22/07 02:54 PM, Gendo wrote: Actually, it is possible to self-plagiarize.

Yes, but is it even possible for a person to end up suing themselves, being my statement.

I am yet to see it happen due to lack of sleep and reading the wrong parts at the wrong time.


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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:05:30


At 4/22/07 02:59 PM, HaroFreak wrote: Yes, but is it even possible for a person to end up suing themselves, being my statement.

Hmmm, he'd never be able to sue himself, but an employer or production company could sue him for self-plagiarism.

Like Zaentz v. Fogerty.

I am yet to see it happen due to lack of sleep and reading the wrong parts at the wrong time.

Yeah, and most likely you will never see such an occurance.

Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:17:11


At 4/22/07 03:05 PM, Gendo wrote: Hmmm, he'd never be able to sue himself, but an employer or production company could sue him for self-plagiarism.

Then that will make much more sense.

Yeah, and most likely you will never see such an occurance.

Thank goodness such decisions involve legal advisors or else all face will be lost.


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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:20:09


At 4/22/07 03:17 PM, HaroFreak wrote: Thank goodness such decisions involve legal advisors or else all face will be lost.

Yeah, without proper legal advice and other such wonders facets of the law, the courts would be up to their balls in frivolous lawsuits.

Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:24:13


At 4/22/07 03:20 PM, Gendo wrote: Yeah, without proper legal advice and other such wonders facets of the law, the courts would be up to their balls in frivolous lawsuits.

Erk.
... Somehow, the thought of a Gyakuten Saiban ACTION game does not exactly fill the bill as good as I think it will.

Can I say; NOT AS PLANNED?


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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:25:30


Guys, how do they decide the schedule of NAruto and BLeach episodes in Japan?

It all seems a bit random to me.


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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:26:21


At 4/22/07 03:25 PM, Fremen wrote: Guys, how do they decide the schedule of NAruto and BLeach episodes in Japan?

I have no idea....

It all seems a bit random to me.

Blame production schedules and other such hassles.

Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:29:19


At 4/22/07 03:26 PM, Gendo wrote: Blame production schedules and other such hassles.

Well it's either less frequent airing or outsourced "QUALITY" every week.


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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:30:17


i like anime! go anime


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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:30:22


Yeah, that essay had some problems with it, like generic names..and "big swords" all being the same. That whole bit didn't even make sense. It isn't cus one show has a long haired, feminine, pretty boy character that it is copying another show's character...it is just a character type.

What about Arnold schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stalone, Van Dam movies where they single handedly destory an entire enemy army with their shirts off? Was Commando just a ripoff of Rambo?


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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:38:45


At 4/22/07 03:29 PM, HaroFreak wrote: Well it's either less frequent airing or outsourced "QUALITY" every week.

"QUALITY" (especially via outsourcing) is a DO NOT WANT!!!

Plus, I recall having told Fremen to quit whining about scheduling in the past, seeing as with the amount of time it takes to produce an episode it's actually a shock to see they've managed to be as consistent as they are.

Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:44:08


At 4/22/07 03:38 PM, Gendo wrote:

Plus, I recall having told Fremen to quit whining about scheduling in the past, seeing as with the amount of time it takes to produce an episode it's actually a shock to see they've managed to be as consistent as they are.

I know...is every week too long? Damn! So they take a week off...lots of shows do that. I don't know if he's read the mangas, but if he did, then he wouldn't be worrying about when the new episodes come out...though then he'd want to know about the new chapters every week.

I don't really mind waiting for Bleach episodes and chapters. At least the series is good enough for me to want to read/see new stuff.


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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:46:46


At 4/22/07 03:44 PM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: I know...is every week too long? Damn! So they take a week off...lots of shows do that. I don't know if he's read the mangas, but if he did, then he wouldn't be worrying about when the new episodes come out...though then he'd want to know about the new chapters every week.

Exactly, more people need to grab ahold of some fucking patience.

Delays during a long-running series (especially a popular one) are inevitable. Minor delays aren't even worth complaining about.

Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:50:31


Lol.

I don't really mind them that much. I was just curious because it seemed kind of random to me.

Just like how SNL is really inconsistent with their air dates (although it's always on a saturday).

Also, I don't know if I should read the bleach manga or not. Is it worth taking the time of going all the way from where the anime is now and reading ahead? It didn't look that great to me last time I checked (since I know of a site where I can get it) .


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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:52:09


At 4/22/07 03:50 PM, Fremen wrote: I don't really mind them that much. I was just curious because it seemed kind of random to me.

Really? Because you seem to complain an awful lot about it...

Also, I don't know if I should read the bleach manga or not. Is it worth taking the time of going all the way from where the anime is now and reading ahead? It didn't look that great to me last time I checked

I have no idea, I'm not much of a Bleach fan. I find all of it to be pretty disappointing.

(since I know of a site where I can get it) .

How many times have I told you not to mention things like that?

Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:54:10


At 4/22/07 03:46 PM, Gendo wrote:

Delays during a long-running series (especially a popular one) are inevitable. Minor delays aren't even worth complaining about.

At least the subbed MAR delay has been explained and should eventually be fixed.

Speaking of patience..just imagine getting ferried thru Hell while burning for all eternity?

Eh..can't be that bad.

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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:56:00


At 4/22/07 03:54 PM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: At least the subbed MAR delay has been explained and should eventually be fixed.

What is MAR? Is it a good series?


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Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 15:57:57


At 4/22/07 03:54 PM, Dr-HyakuNinGiri wrote: Speaking of patience..just imagine getting ferried thru Hell while burning for all eternity?

Now that would be fucking annoying.

At 4/22/07 03:56 PM, Fremen wrote: What is MAR?

Learn to use Google instead of asking questions all the time.
Wiki article

Response to Anime Club 2007-04-22 16:01:38


At 4/22/07 03:57 PM, Gendo wrote:
At 4/22/07 03:56 PM, Fremen wrote: What is MAR?
Learn to use Google instead of asking questions all the time.
Wiki article

I'd rather have an opinion on MAR also, since Wiki does not show how good a show is.


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