At 10/23/06 10:39 PM, jmtb02 wrote: 1) XBox360 The graphics are amazing,

i cant say there worse then the Wii ofcourse, but i would not go as far as to say there amazing. There not the best, and i played a bunch of thier games, nothing blew me away graphics wise in the slightest bit.

and the blue ray. i really dont care for having one, afraid it will turn out like Beta (two competeing formats, VHS won). Blue ray is not the only new format comming in the next few years. More are in development.

and i see no need for blue ray.

anyway, everything else seemed to fit fine. sounds like a good deal.

im buying a 360 when Halo 3 comes out. yessum.

At 10/23/06 10:45 PM, 23450 wrote: and i see no need for blue ray.

Exactly. There is no need for BR, rendering the PS3 a good graphics generator, but not much more.

At 10/23/06 11:11 PM, jmtb02 wrote:

At 10/23/06 10:45 PM, 23450 wrote: and i see no need for blue ray.

Exactly. There is no need for BR, rendering the PS3 a good graphics generator, but not much more.

some people think it will make games longer, but ofcourse that means longer production time and costs, which means either less long and expensive games, or more short cheap games. hmm. which one will they choose i wonder???

I would really like to get a 360, but its currently out of my price range. The only money I get is the outcome of flash work. Which isn't bad, but at the rate that I produce, it isn't good either. Fortunately for me I am only 16 so I don't live on my own and have to pay bills and college crap. But I am $1000 in debt from a combination of computer repair and a band competition/wicked sweet trip to disneyland which was most definately worth it. We got to go to all the themes parks down around that area (except six flags, my school got permanantly banned from Six Flags a few years ago...) and we also swept the competition. We brought home 13 trophies and plaques. We were the number one band there which was pretty cool.

At 10/23/06 10:45 PM, 23450 wrote:

At 10/23/06 10:39 PM, jmtb02 wrote: 1) XBox360 The graphics are amazing,

i cant say there worse then the Wii ofcourse, but i would not go as far as to say there amazing. There not the best, and i played a bunch of thier games, nothing blew me away graphics wise in the slightest bit.

Have you ever played PGR 3? You might change your mind on that statement.

BTW, sorry for being totally out of the loop on this one,

but WHAT THE HECK IS A BLUE RAY PLAYER?

also another game with amazing graphics for the 360 is Need For Speed Carbon. The demo makes me orgasm multiple times in a row.

At 10/24/06 12:22 AM, orb wrote: Have you ever played PGR 3? You might change your mind on that statement.

ok....yah, that looks nice. cant argue.

At 10/24/06 12:23 AM, orb wrote: BTW, sorry for being totally out of the loop on this one,

but WHAT THE HECK IS A BLUE RAY PLAYER?

its just another format of DVD. Its the exact same thing except it holds more information.

Ah. Okay. And like I said another good one on graphics is nfs:carbon. It has this amazing new feature no racing game has ever had before... you can literally customize your body kits and such. Like you can mold certain aspects of them so that your car looks exactly the way you want it. So like you buy a generic body kit that has the generic shape you want and then you can mold it to look exactly the way you want.

Same with rims, spoilers, etc. Fucking amazing stuff.

back to flash world.

At 10/24/06 01:21 AM, Luis wrote: back to flash world.

Sounds like someone doesn't have a DS.

At 10/24/06 01:28 AM, NegativeONE wrote:

At 10/24/06 01:21 AM, Luis wrote: back to flash world.

Sounds like someone doesn't have a DS.

even if i did i couldnt play it cause im so backlogged on projects.. ahem.
so dont tempt me.

Meh my favorite gaming system is still the pc. It has the most complete & prettiest games. There isnt any console that can match games like Rome Total War, Generals or Counterstrike in complexity and gameplay. Somehow i can never play for longer than 5 minutes on any game on the console. Even the classics can't really keep me hooked. Only zelda on the n64 and tekken 3 on the playstation were exceptions. Besides, the pc has Alone In The Dark :)

I'd say my favourite all time console game would have to be conker's bad fur day on 64. What do you guys think? What's your favourite?

At 10/24/06 12:23 AM, orb wrote: BTW, sorry for being totally out of the loop on this one,

but WHAT THE HECK IS A BLUE RAY PLAYER?

It's a new technology for dvd players to read dvd's. It works with different wave lengths for the laser and somehow because of this you can store more information on a dvd layer than you can do with a traditional dvd. I think about 50gb per dvd layer. Anyways, it will be the shit for the coming 5 years or so

At 10/23/06 10:39 PM, jmtb02 wrote: Stuffs.

I have to agree with the NES, it has a lot of awesome games on it. I'm actually adicted to the port of LOZ to the GBA but it's so awesome, the only problem I get is when I'm lost in a dungeon but I just get a map of the interwebs. I can't reall consider the fact of blowing out the ends of the cartridges bad, it shure beats the crap out of having a scratched cd and I'm used to it being a N64 owner.

If I where to get a console it'd have to be the 360 because of Castle Crashers, Halo 3, Halo Wars and a bunch of other games.
I'm kinda touchy on the Wii because of how different it is but it will have some good games on it but they will mostly be LOZ 42 where you get to fight Ganondorf again and Super Mario Wii or something like that where you fight bowser again! While LOZ will probably be good it's just that Nintendo is repeating the same storyline now and is only changing the consoles.

but WHAT THE HECK IS A BLUE RAY PLAYER?

It's a new technology for dvd players to read dvd's.

I thought playstation 3/ xbox 2 were gonna use it i heard somewhere?

I have nothing but loathing for all next gen consoles >.< In terms of gameplay and enjoyment they don't seem to be a big step up from the old, graphically inferior ones.

At 10/24/06 08:06 AM, The-Frosties-Kid wrote: I have nothing but loathing for all next gen consoles >.< In terms of gameplay and enjoyment they don't seem to be a big step up from the old, graphically inferior ones.

Hmmmm... with some consoles/games this is true, but not always. I say it all depends on the games, and wether the developers use the new tehologies to the full potential.

If your gonna compare a classic game such as crash bandicoot to a newer game, the level of entertainment wont seem much better... However, you go back and play an older crappier game (i cba right now, but i could list a fair few), and compare to a game such as 13, san andreas, gun, or one of the new ps3 games (hold your breathe chaps :), and tell me you see no difference.

Its all in how the game developers take advantage of what they have.

At 10/24/06 09:00 AM, brainfungus wrote: Its all in how the game developers take advantage of what they have.

They generally don't, though. Most of the time the idea of taking advantage is: "OMG LETS MAKE IT WITH 500,000,000 POLYGONS LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!". The only few games I can think of here and now which have effectively taken advantage of what they have on newer consoles are the GTA titles and the newer MGS games. (I hear Black's quite good too).

And then there's all this Blu-Ray crap and junk. I mean, the main, indeed only, advantages consoles have over PCs are simplicity and price, and now it looks like they don't even have those.

And then there's all this Blu-Ray crap and junk. I mean, the main, indeed only, advantages consoles have over PCs are simplicity and price, and now it looks like they don't even have those.

I dunno... Playstation just has a better feel to it than pressing buttons on a keyboard.... for me the only type of game that the PC is better than conoles at playing is strategy games. Titles such as Age Of Empires. But your point about the polys is a good one, not many developers DO actually use the laest technology to the full, and the entertainment value of the game is usually effected significantly by this, theres no denying it. But, when it comes down to it, i have high hopes for the PS3 in particular, and im definitely looking forward to the next Resi title :)

At 10/24/06 09:44 AM, brainfungus wrote:

And then there's all this Blu-Ray crap and junk. I mean, the main, indeed only, advantages consoles have over PCs are simplicity and price, and now it looks like they don't even have those.

I dunno... Playstation just has a better feel to it than pressing buttons on a keyboard.... for me the only type of game that the PC is better than conoles at playing is strategy games.

Nah, FPSes are far, far superior with mice than with d-pads, or even the new fangled control contraptions they have now. Strategy games, yeah :P

You can get USB stuff for other types of games for PC, though.

i think any game with mediocore graphics compared with alot of titles on that console are truely good.
E.g. GTA compared with alot of other games on the console looks poor.

I've been on the internet too long and I'm getting a headache. Someone say something mean fast so I've got an excuse to go offline and cry for a while.

At 10/24/06 11:37 AM, The-Frosties-Kid wrote: I've been on the internet too long and I'm getting a headache. Someone say something mean fast so I've got an excuse to go offline and cry for a while.

I love you.

Today I had a realization.... I feel bad for the Gravity Pinball Challenge author.

The Four Second series has gone through massive amounts of heartache over it's apparent "OMG It's Wariowares!" scandal. As much as I tried to deny it and tried to develop around my original idea, it totally ended up like Wariowares, and I had to take the heat for it. I pushed the idea of identical genre, but I don't think that got across to anyone.

So when Gravity Pinball came out, and I saw how the gameplay and functionality was practically the same as Ball Revamped, I was somewhat taken back that someone would port my gameplay and idea into their own Flash game. But then I realized that the guy was probably going through the same thing I was going through with Wariowares, that he was just getting bashed with review upon review written "ripoff", whether or not it was intentional that he actually copied the original game. I felt guilty for jumping to conclusions about his game.

Which leaves me at this... how much original Flash is there to be developed on the internet, given the insane production of Flash games over the past 5 years? Is there actually original content anymore? Is it going to be faded games being reushered into a new light of gaming, only to become a popular game again? What do you think?

Headache's gone :D

At 10/24/06 12:06 PM, jmtb02 wrote: Which leaves me at this... how much original Flash is there to be developed on the internet, given the insane production of Flash games over the past 5 years? Is there actually original content anymore? Is it going to be faded games being reushered into a new light of gaming, only to become a popular game again? What do you think?

There's going to be as much original Flash as people have in them. People shouldn't be setting out to make something new and never seen before for the hell of it - they should follow their own ideas. If the inspiration they have comes from a concept which has already been introduced, then so be it (so long as it's not a total carbon copy. Some recognition of the orginal creator would be cool too).

Everyone has their own styles and ideas to bring to something. I wouldn't get so tied down by originality (again, so long as you're not totally cloning something).

At 10/24/06 12:06 PM, jmtb02 wrote: Which leaves me at this... how much original Flash is there to be developed on the internet, given the insane production of Flash games over the past 5 years? Is there actually original content anymore? Is it going to be faded games being reushered into a new light of gaming, only to become a popular game again? What do you think?

Given the ammount of game concepts that have already been developed, I'd have to say that it is mildly complicated to find a game concept that hasn't been used ever... Most of the time it's just people reviving the old games' concepts, such as galaga, asteroids, etc.

When newer technology comes out it's going to change John, for examle someone posted up that screen that you touch and control with your fingers, that's probably a long way off but an example still. Another would be when Flash 9 comes out. New shit will be possible and simpler to do.

And ideas don't just have to be over after one person has done it, the boundaries can be pushed for the genre and new shit can still be done.

At 10/24/06 12:16 PM, PureGonzoMedia wrote: When newer technology comes out it's going to change John

But even today, we are still seeing the platfomers and racing games that we have seen 20 years ago, and not only in Flash, but in next-gen consoles. Sure, we have a "3rd dimension" and better sound, but the gameplay still works on the same prototype, as many games still do.

Fewer and fewer original concepts are being developed, and it is shrinking even further.

At 10/24/06 12:22 PM, jmtb02 wrote: Fewer and fewer original concepts are being developed, and it is shrinking even further.

There's only so far forward you can go, JimBot :P I defy you to invent a totally new type of steam locomotive.

Sideways; now that's the way to go!