Solution
Drop a massive tanker on the box. Problem solved.
At 2/2/07 02:40 PM, OldGust wrote: Solution
Drop a massive tanker on the box. Problem solved.
At 2/2/07 02:37 PM, Coaly wrote: I'd also have to say that nothing else will act on the box, a closed system of a person and a metal box, like conservation of energy.
wow thanks for reading my whole post before making a fool out of yourself
RE: Solution
Well, you both pretty much made fools out of yourselves
He ignored the conditions you had set.
You set conditions, that can't exist.
No, actually neither did and you can't call one a fool for ignoring what doesn't exist. >:P
Chill you Coaly.
I'll chill, read what I say. The statement is any problem has a solution. My problem isn't realistic, but it's a problem. If you were in a metal box buried 10 feet under ground, bolted from the outside and you had to get out in 10 seconds you couldn't, are those realistic enough parameters for you. The statement that all problems have a solution are false.
the statement that all problems have a solution is false*
So then we're back to the question of what is a solution. Because the problem sounds like a solution to me. >:D
Curses, Toast!
At 2/2/07 03:30 PM, OldGust wrote: So then we're back to the question of what is a solution. Because the problem sounds like a solution to me. >:D
Curses, Toast!
incorrect
if the problem is you need to get out of the box in 10 seconds then the solution cannot be not to get out, because the problem would still persist.
At 2/2/07 02:37 PM, Coaly wrote: RE: Solution
The solution can't be not to get out, because the problem would still persist.
I sort of agree, although for me it's vehicles. i cannot draw vehicles atall. I've never really tried, i'm not into cars either so have never really got a feel for them.
Shit.. I was going to say 'Same with women, I've never really had a feel of them', but eh, nah
i agree with you drawing good vehicles is imposiblle
and to the guy that asked no i almost never have somthing importent to say in here
and if i does i find
it thery hard to express in englis
At 2/2/07 03:06 PM, Coaly wrote: If you were in a metal box buried 10 feet under ground, bolted from the outside and you had to get out in 10 seconds you couldn't, are those realistic enough parameters for you. The statement that all problems have a solution are false.
Just pray and Jesus would get you out. Simple :)
Solution
False. 1/0. Is there a soloution? No.
I win :).
Portal banner game :D
So a long time ago I came up with a self game, good timewaster if you're really bored.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/layout04/top .swf
That is the swf in the flash portal, above the top 50 submissions.
The idea of the game is to take your mouse and move it from the very left of the screen, all the way to the end of the swf width wihtout hitting any of the swfs. Then you see how many times you can do it, and tally up a personal score.
Hell, it's worth a try playing, especially if you're bored enough ;)
At 2/2/07 04:27 PM, Depredation wrote: Solution
False. 1/0. Is there a soloution? No.
I win :).
How come 1/0 isn't defined as infinity? Thats always confused me. Surely 0 goes into 1 infinity times.
RE: Solutions
At 2/2/07 04:32 PM, ThisIsAlsoMyPassword wrote: How come 1/0 isn't defined as infinity? Thats always confused me. Surely 0 goes into 1 infinity times.
I always figured that n / 0 could be pretty much any number - 15 * 0 = 0 .'. 0 / 0 should = 15, and the same can be said about pretty much anything.
It's just an equation that's been given the value of 'undefined' due to the general weirdness of dividing by zero.
Anyway, as fas as solutions go, it depends on how you're defining a solution. If you're using the standard dictionary definition, then could just say that the solution to getting out of the impossible box would be to get out of the impossible box, and it would be a valid answer. If you're going into the more colloquial definitions then obviously not every situation is going to have a 'solution'.
Trust me; I'm a literature student ;)
Back.. i guess
Right, back to the bbs cuz real life got boring.
Also cuz Wii is sold out throughout the universe till late february :D!
who wants to bring me up to speed with the, hopefully, brilliantly intelligent and amazing topics that have been discussed in this thread since i vanished :)?
and now i gotta get catched up ont he other threads i wanna check out that only have 1 or 2 new pages.
<3
At 2/2/07 04:44 PM, Lord-Sonx wrote: Back.. i guess
Right, back to the bbs cuz real life got boring.
Huzza! Snox is back! And we've been having the usual topics about how we hate the SS lately... um... hacking.....
And this solution thingy which is our current topic. And if it would be difficult to make an rts.
E-cake all around
Whoa its me!
At 2/2/07 12:03 PM, jmtb02 wrote: Re: All Problems have a Solution
Do we define a solution as the best possible way to perform a task, or the 'correct' answer to a problem? If we are taking the latter, then I would say no. However, if we take the former, every task has solutions in the sense that you can arrive at several ways of presenting an answer to a problem.
I completely agree with that, it's basically what I said when there was a debate on that argument between me and 2 other people. If the solution would be the most efficient option, in the exception of a case where multiple solutions having the same percent of efficiency, then there is always a solution (note: the solution can be undefined if the problem is undefined). However, if the solution is something that has to work, note that the verb 'work' might vary according to the objective, then some problems have no practical solution without any modifiction of the problem (ie: 1/x where x=0, changing x to 1)
That was an interesting question Toast.
Kthx.
At 2/2/07 01:34 PM, fuzz wrote: Solution
I know. Can you find a solution to the "is there a solution to every question."
That's what the debate's about, nub :P
At 2/2/07 01:39 PM, Re2deemer wrote: First you need to define "solution"
The definition of 'question' would be therefore needed too, unless you want some smart asses coming up with their own definition of question. But of course in that case, you could really say everything needs a definition, but you just don't come to those details because we assume everyone know what those words mean and no one would come up with liek 'there is no solution to the problem where problem="unresolvable" '
At 2/2/07 02:37 PM, Coaly wrote: What if the problem is you need to get out of a metal box which is impossible to get out of. The solution can't be not to get out, because the problem would still persist. I'd also have to say that nothing else will act on the box, a closed system of a person and a metal box, like conservation of energy.
Again, that all depends on what you define a solution. No one said a solution has to be possible, and therefore a valid solution would be 'get out of the box' even though it's impossible. And again, impossible needs a definition too, or you could say 'pray to god and hope he breaks the box'
At 2/2/07 03:08 PM, Coaly wrote: the statement that all problems have a solution is false*
Not much. :p
At 2/2/07 12:03 PM, jmtb02 wrote: Re: All Problems have a Solution
Do we define a solution as the best possible way to perform a task, or the 'correct' answer to a problem? If we are taking the latter, then I would say no. However, if we take the former, every task has solutions in the sense that you can arrive at several ways of presenting an answer to a problem.
I completely agree with that, it's basically what I said when there was a debate on that argument between me and 2 other people. If the solution would be the most efficient option, in the exception of a case where multiple solutions having the same percent of efficiency, then there is always a solution (note: the solution can be undefined if the problem is undefined). However, if the solution is something that has to work, note that the verb 'work' might vary according to the objective, then some problems have no practical solution without any modifiction of the problem (ie: 1/x where x=0, changing x to 1)
That was an interesting question Toast.
Kthx.
At 2/2/07 01:34 PM, fuzz wrote: Solution
I know. Can you find a solution to the "is there a solution to every question."
That's what the debate's about, nub :P
At 2/2/07 01:39 PM, Re2deemer wrote: First you need to define "solution"
The definition of 'question' would be therefore needed too, unless you want some smart asses coming up with their own definition of question. But of course in that case, you could really say everything needs a definition, but you just don't come to those details because we assume everyone know what those words mean and no one would come up with liek 'there is no solution to the problem where problem="unresolvable" '
At 2/2/07 02:37 PM, Coaly wrote: What if the problem is you need to get out of a metal box which is impossible to get out of. The solution can't be not to get out, because the problem would still persist. I'd also have to say that nothing else will act on the box, a closed system of a person and a metal box, like conservation of energy.
Again, that all depends on what you define a solution. No one said a solution has to be possible, and therefore a valid solution would be 'get out of the box' even though it's impossible. And again, impossible needs a definition too, or you could say 'pray to god and hope he breaks the box'
At 2/2/07 04:27 PM, Depredation wrote: False. 1/0. Is there a soloution? No.
Infinity.
At 2/2/07 03:08 PM, Coaly wrote: the statement that all problems have a solution is false*
Not much :p
At 2/2/07 04:38 PM, Paranoia wrote: Anyway, as fas as solutions go, it depends on how you're defining a solution. If you're using the standard dictionary definition, then could just say that the solution to getting out of the impossible box would be to get out of the impossible box, and it would be a valid answer. If you're going into the more colloquial definitions then obviously not every situation is going to have a 'solution'.
Blah? you're repeating what people already said :p in this case we're talking about solutions that work, meaning 100% efficient.
Solution
–noun 1. the act of solving a problem, question, etc.: The situation is approaching solution.
2. the state of being solved: a problem capable of solution.
3. a particular instance or method of solving; an explanation or answer: The solution is as good as any other.
4. Mathematics. a. the process of determining the answer to a problem.
b. the answer itself.
5. Chemistry. a. the process by which a gas, liquid, or solid is dispersed homogeneously in a gas, liquid, or solid without chemical change.
b. such a substance, as dissolved sugar or salt in solution.
c. a homogeneous, molecular mixture of two or more substances.
6. Pharmacology. Also called liquor. a liquid, usually water, in which a medication is dissolved.
7. Medicine/Medical. a. the termination of a disease.
b. a breach or break in anything, esp. one in parts of the body normally continuous, as from fracture or laceration: solution of continuity.
Whoa its me!
Solutions
At 2/2/07 03:32 PM, Coaly wrote:
:: if the problem is you need to get out of the box in 10 seconds then the solution cannot be not to get out, because the problem would still persist.
At 2/2/07 02:37 PM, Coaly wrote: RE: Solution
The solution can't be not to get out, because the problem would still persist.
Thinking that Everything is possible.. either you could teleport out of the box or osmeone could take you out.. i think its weird noone has come with the teleport soultion, since you specified that the box was somehow unbreakable, unless im getting stuff wrong and it has some force-field around it or ti ahs to be a realisti solution
they say that everything has a solution except death, but that would bedepending of what you consider the problem in death,
If 'everything is possible' then automatically 'everything has a solution'
the two statements like, support each other, its just what everyone individually believes
1/0.. i think about it form time to time since i learned in school that it hadn't a solution and that calculators mark it as error, and that its not possible and stuff.. there has to be some hidden logic in it.. how come something cannot be divided 0 times? hmm... its like there is not a number 0 multiplies to get 1 or 2 because every number by 0 is zero, you arent using.. then coulndt the answer be 0 rather that infinity? cause 1 splitted in 1 is 1, splitted in 2 (1/2) is 0.5.. then splitted 0 tiems your saying its unexistant.. then it is 0
sorry for any spelling mistake due to fast typing.. i wish noone has answered anything else by now.. i started wiritng this with toast as last post
Everything is NOT possible. Everything is possible EXCEPT the impossibility.
... I think.
At 2/2/07 06:33 PM, Toast wrote: Everything is NOT possible. Everything is possible EXCEPT the impossibility.
... I think.
You got a point there.
If everything is possible then impossibility is possible too, therefore everything is not possible, because impossibility isn't...
^according to this, now, do all problems have solutions?
I'll need to think about the question again, damn toast, you think too deeply to be the spammer everyone says you are, you are confusing me...stop it!
At 2/2/07 06:40 PM, PinkSkull wrote:At 2/2/07 06:33 PM, Toast wrote: Everything is NOT possible. Everything is possible EXCEPT the impossibility.You got a point there.
... I think.
I'll need to think about the question again, damn toast, you think too deeply to be the spammer everyone says you are, you are confusing me...stop it!
Hes hit puberty...
Whoa its me!
nothign new then..
i left for a week for hopes that you all would stop fighting over random topics like this.. nothign changes then ;)?
why do i blame toast :)?
Time
i have scripted a total of 37 different movies to date, i wish i had the fucking time and skill do complee these in flash... anyone know a way of stopping time to complete these things?
longer i take to start, the more ideas i get.. rather annoying..
At 2/2/07 06:48 PM, Lord-Sonx wrote: nothign new then..
i left for a week for hopes that you all would stop fighting over random topics like this.. nothign changes then ;)?
sorry sonks, you arent that special to make everyone meditate and start posting useful stuff in honor of your leaving
longer i take to start, the more ideas i get.. rather annoying..
lol, i finally finished writing the stiry of my -visions- thingy, i like have everything in my mid, but have turned lazy about completing it
stopping time
anyone know a way of stopping time to complete these things?
if i knew that wouldnt i use it to stop time and get more sleep before school
anyone could be stopping tiem at any moment and we souldnt notice
anyway, i dont think tiem cant actually be stopped, because maybe you stop the outer time and everything freezes, but you continue living, so time continues for yourself, which leads me to a theory of mine i tought lately, and if i dont find out some other greek filosofer ahs come with it i'll copyright it.. coz always ithnk i have a good or original idea i find out someone else has already done it or said it
theory:
we all have an inner timeline, and live over an outer or main timeline, in which its the world, days, minutes and everyone else, we could be able to stop or travel through the outer timeline, but our inner timelines will always be running, i dont know if i explain myself, i drew a paint thingy trying to explain it, the yellow one is our personal inner timeline, which can travel trought the outer tiemline, that is, considering time traveling/stopping is possible, coz normaly both timelines would be suck together..
now prove me wrong so i'll stop making sutopid theorys and start working more on our cold and frustrating system, that or i could make flash :)
At 2/2/07 07:06 PM, PinkSkull wrote: timeline theory.
The problem with every single timeline, time stopping and time travel theory is the fact that man conceptualized and created time. The universe works in cycles. We just had to give those cycles a name to keep track of our own mortality. (or our crops) Stephen Hawkings, as much as I hate him, has some pretty interesting views on the possibilites of time travel and what not.
Me personally... I think time travel is impossible. Why? I think the common conception of the passage of time is very much like an old cassette tape or VHS tape. You record over it. This could also explain ghosts. Even been listening to something you recorded over and heard a bit of the old tracks? Also, these technologies focused on magnetic field for recording...a force very common in nature.
Time altering? Also impossible. All future changes would effect the past, hence effecting the future. Not saying someone in the future (if time travel was in fact possibe) couldn't go back and alter something, just if they had, we would already be experiancing that change because it came into effect prior to us, even though on a physical timeline, it was done after us.
So, can I prove your theory wrong? No.... but in order to make a working theory, worthy of documenting, you really need to show solid evidence of a possiblity, not use the old "Well, it can't be disproven... so it's a possibility," routine. Search for evidence and do research on things such as aging and season cycles... things like that, so you can put scientific fact on top of theories.
Otherwise, it's just religion.
It can't be disproven... so it's a possibility.
At 2/2/07 11:42 PM, Johnny wrote: Time altering? Also impossible. All future changes would effect the past, hence effecting the future. Not saying someone in the future (if time travel was in fact possibe) couldn't go back and alter something, just if they had, we would already be experiancing that change because it came into effect prior to us, even though on a physical timeline, it was done after us.
After reading various Douglas Adams books I am inclined to agree with you on that one. I think that if time travel were possible (which I dont actually think to be the case) that we would not experience any change in current time situation, everything would just sort of fall into place.
I sorta like the sound of your tape recording theory, but then you'd have to have a certain amount of time after which it would stop recording, go back to the start and record all over again, this I find impossible because there is no universal time, time exists seperately on each individual planet.
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Solutions
Warning Drunken Post:
Ok, as said by home simpson..."to alcohol, the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems."
Thats fucking sagacity for you right there.
Teh Fucking Edn. I fucking tell you.
At 2/2/07 06:40 PM, PinkSkull wrote: If everything is possible then impossibility is possible too, therefore everything is not possible, because impossibility isn't...
^according to this, now, do all problems have solutions?
If everything is possible, there's no such thing as impossibility and so your argument is not valid.
Everything is NOT possible.
Also, 1/0 must be a number other than zero because firstly zero is not an exception and also because the distinction is needed in some math.
RE: Numbers
At 2/3/07 04:10 AM, OldGust wrote: Also, 1/0 must be a number other than zero because firstly zero is not an exception and also because the distinction is needed in some math.
The way my logic sees it, 0 goes into 1 infinity times. So 1/0 must be infinity. Same for every other number as the numerator except 0.
Someone said it could e any number because 15*0=0.
That only proves that 0/0 can equal any number. Which is fair enough. 0 can go into 0 1 times, 2 times, or any other amount of times.
But i still think n/0 = infinity, n != 0
