At 8/6/11 02:05 AM, Arby wrote: Oh lol, I'm looking back at these AS war threads and it appears i didn't even know how to program XD XD XD Let alone make a framework.

Seriously, how was I ever that bad? ^_^

i love how you guys actually continued learning programming and improving after leaving NG, and I'm the only idiot here who hasn't learned anything new in 6 years. I'm still scared of OOP xD

Hey guys. My new game was finally released. Tell me what you think.

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At 8/8/11 09:41 AM, Toast wrote: i love how you guys actually continued learning programming and improving after leaving NG, and I'm the only idiot here who hasn't learned anything new in 6 years. I'm still scared of OOP xD

But you make the best toast around!

just how do you make them?

Learn/show as you play works best most of the time imo. Feed it to people in small bits. Of course this depends on the complexity of the game I guess.

Does anyone know a way I can use a String as a variable reference in a static class (like this["blahdieblah"])?

Never mind the question, figured it out with a lucky goes. Apparently ClassName["blahdieblah"] does the trick.

At 8/10/11 12:01 PM, PrettyMuchBryce wrote: Hey guys. My new game was finally released. Tell me what you think.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/57 6645

Awesome! :D

Also knugen i'm moving to sweden to play sc with you. me you thorzain and sase can all team up. jinro can stay with his liquids

At 8/11/11 11:14 PM, Starogre wrote: Also knugen i'm moving to sweden to play sc with you. me you thorzain and sase can all team up. jinro can stay with his liquids

coolio, I think we should set up our own newgrounds pro gaming house though and own the shit out of all of those guys instead :)

At 8/12/11 01:00 PM, knugen wrote:

At 8/11/11 11:14 PM, Starogre wrote: Also knugen i'm moving to sweden to play sc with you. me you thorzain and sase can all team up. jinro can stay with his liquids

coolio, I think we should set up our own newgrounds pro gaming house though and own the shit out of all of those guys instead :)

i've had talks with a couple of people to set up a house for real. it is too hard to practice alone when you have no one irl to mutually benefit from. problem is that no one in that skill range has any money, because none of them have a job (partly due to playing starcraft too much), and all of them are just 1 step away from being a progamer and making money, but that's the hardest step there is.

At 8/12/11 01:58 PM, Toast wrote: i've had talks with a couple of people to set up a house for real. it is too hard to practice alone when you have no one irl to mutually benefit from. problem is that no one in that skill range has any money, because none of them have a job (partly due to playing starcraft too much), and all of them are just 1 step away from being a progamer and making money, but that's the hardest step there is.

props to you if you ever go through with it :) it's of course a big leap of faith though, one I would never actually go for myself, or at least not the way esport looks today. for one I don't feel like the pro gaming house lifestyle is for me, but also it feels like the risk/reward aspect economically speaking is no good.

then again my skills are nothing extraordinary though (mid-ish diamond). how good are you? :D

At 8/12/11 05:08 PM, knugen wrote:

At 8/12/11 01:58 PM, Toast wrote: i've had talks with a couple of people to set up a house for real. it is too hard to practice alone when you have no one irl to mutually benefit from. problem is that no one in that skill range has any money, because none of them have a job (partly due to playing starcraft too much), and all of them are just 1 step away from being a progamer and making money, but that's the hardest step there is.

props to you if you ever go through with it :) it's of course a big leap of faith though, one I would never actually go for myself, or at least not the way esport looks today. for one I don't feel like the pro gaming house lifestyle is for me, but also it feels like the risk/reward aspect economically speaking is no good.

You are right in everything you say. I would never do such a thing for money or for a solid career, I would do it because competing at a strategy game of any kind sounds much better to me at the moment than getting a boring job or going to a very bad school.

I'm 'top' master atm, overall I'm #500 or so in europe (including gm league). it sounds good but it's really not enough to compete. I could take out pros in ladder games from times to times, but that doesn't do much. In starcraft, the higher you are, the harder it is to reach the next step. Getting to mid master or high master is piss easy if you actually dedicate yourself to the game and play enough every day, but making the jump from 'just good' to 'pro / semipro' is insanely hard. I have friends who have been at a #300-#400 rank in europe ever since the game was released, but even today they can't make grandmaster league and they are just stuck at the top of master.

The thing is that pretty much every single pro player is an ex wc3, scbw, or C&C player. they are all guys who already knew all about strategy games when sc2 was released, and while i and noobies like me were just climbing up the bronze league in august 2010, they were already playing at the highest levels and learning the game much faster. in fact, many players started playing in the very beginning of 2010, in blizzard's exclusive beta.

but i digress - the thing is, i don't have many options right now. i left high school without accomplishing anything, i wasted most of my education due to personal reasons, and come the last few months of school, i look at my life and decide 'well, im doing pretty well in starcraft, maybe i should give it a go' ... haha. it's harder than it looks.

btw it's awesome to hear that you play starcraft, and apparently you're not half bad at it ;) i already knew about starogre, we had a few strategy chats when the game came out:)

Taking my first look at the actual Flash Forum in what feels like forever, I must say it disgusts me that people are still bothering to learn and use AS2.

wow that's really impressive, especially considering you started at bronze level :D but as you say you still have a bit to go until you start earning some real money and can make a living out of it; except from the absolute top players (who brings in lots of prize money in tournaments) I can imagine most live off the sponsor money their team brings in, and perhaps some from streaming?

it's of course way easier said then done, and perhaps you're already trying, but I think you should start by finding some way to make someone wanting to sponsor you guys. perhaps start streaming and making a name for yourselves that way would be the easiest; that way you can advertise your sponsor through the stream as well? alternatively have a team pick you up, but you might need to improve a bit more before that's actually on the table?

this is mostly just speculation as I don't know a whole lot of the inner workings of esport, so sorry if I give shit advice haha :P I have been curious about how this stuff does work for a while, but at the same time the biggest realistic(-ish) goal I have is to eventually get high enough on the ladder to play a pro or two.

btw I have a somewhat new stream set up (with starogre as one of the regular viewers): http://www.twitch.tv/knugen89. I have a hard time advancing towards master and I have been stuck where I am now since before season 2 started, so if you can give any tips on how to improve my play that would be great :)

At 8/13/11 02:20 AM, PSvils wrote: I realize that this might be only vaguely related to Flash, but as Flash is a part of web design, I wanted to bring your guys attention to this awesomely designed website I found. It seriously is every good design technique stuck into one page!

Check it out.

made me lol. i followed him on twitter in case i ever want to try and find that blog again.

And Toast, didn't know you were that high either. I don't play too much and I don't practice builds or analyze timings of other races so I'm always stuck at top plat, playing against mostly diamond players and a few other rank 1 plat players. (Not now in season 3, been too busy irl) but yeah I think if i were to make any kind of leap i'd get a stream going and get followers on TL and reddit. root.destiny gets thousands of viewers and followers just cus he's popular on reddit, TL, and coaches people for cash. you should def. try it. Being social in a community can definitely give you a leap in getting noticed. Also it's still BS that US wasn't linked with EU. unless hulalaoo plays starcraft, i don't know anyone down there in latin america...

Looks pretty quiet around here recently..?

Wow, it's been a week since the last post. That's quite sad, actually.

Unless it's because everyone who used to post here got a life, then I guess it's not so sad.

At 8/20/11 10:11 AM, Xeptic wrote: Wow, it's been a week since the last post. That's quite sad, actually.

Well after this thread turned into a circlejerk for all the old regs the quality of discussion just went down and down...

At 8/20/11 10:18 AM, Archawn wrote: Well after this thread turned into a circlejerk for all the old regs the quality of discussion just went down and down...

I sure as hell hope you're trolling.

the quality of discussion was just shifted to circle jerking by none other than

Sup guys

At 8/13/11 02:20 AM, PSvils wrote: I realize that this might be only vaguely related to Flash, but as Flash is a part of web design, I wanted to bring your guys attention to this awesomely designed website I found. It seriously is every good design technique stuck into one page!

Check it out.

But..
where's the comic sans?

Hello.

At 8/21/11 05:44 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: Hello.

Hey, you're alive!

Wow Toast was around.

Wow, when did this place pass 2000 posts? Crazy :p

I found a link to this innocent page of mushrooms that look like penises on facebook. Imagine my surprise when I saw a photo from Newgrounds' very own Wade Fulp there :D

At 8/21/11 05:51 PM, 4urentertainment wrote: Hey, you're alive!

And so are you, hey.

At 8/22/11 02:14 AM, Paranoia wrote: Wow, when did this place pass 2000 posts? Crazy :p

I found a link to this innocent page of mushrooms that look like penises on facebook. Imagine my surprise when I saw a photo from Newgrounds' very own Wade Fulp there :D

That made me laugh :)

At 8/22/11 02:06 AM, PSvils wrote: Now to move on from the circle jerk, you know how everyone was pissing their pants about Molehill? Well, yeah, sure, it was okay for 3D...but THIS is what I was excited for:

G.. g.. giggedy giggedy

At 8/22/11 02:06 AM, PSvils wrote: 2D rendering with molehill

Yeah wow. That's great news. My only concern would be the reach of the version of FP with molehill. Is FP11 out of incubator build yet? If so -- Are there any stats about what % of computers have FP11 installed?

Also: Anyone particpate in Ludum Dare over the weekend? I would love to check out your entries.

At 8/22/11 05:35 AM, Deadclever23 wrote:

At 8/21/11 05:51 PM, 4urentertainment wrote: Hey, you're alive!

And so are you, hey.

oh wow

At 8/22/11 12:56 PM, PSvils wrote: FP11 is now in Beta, so it's exciting, should be released soon. When it is, I expect give it a few months, and it'll be up'n'running on 90% of browsers. And us making games for it will only help.

I'm skeptical about only a few months. FP versions take a while to penetrate. Check out this information:
http://www.adobe.com/products/player_cen sus/flashplayer/version_penetration.html

You can see FP 10.2 was released back in February (~6 months ago) and still only has a 77% install rate. My guess would be that it might take more like 1-2 years to reach 90% penetration following FP11's release. Although, I think if you're just releasing a game here on Newgrounds then it's probably fine. It's probably safe to say that most tech-savvy people tend to keep their FP updated.