Kongregate has the advantage of just being for games though, NG hasn't felt like a gaming site for years now. NG feels hard to navigate (for me at least) because there's simple too much different stuff. There's time when it feels like several different communities pressed into one site.

At 7/27/10 12:52 PM, citricsquid wrote: As someone said in a reply to me, even though a lot of good games come from Newgrounds they play them on Kongregate because the Kongregate layout is good and navigating to good games is much easier than here, the only way to find good games here is through the front page or pure luck.

Well I think the reason for that is Newgrounds isn't mainly a game portal, it's been mainly focused on animations for the past few years hasn't it? It's going to be hard rivaling Kong and other websites focused on only games, but I think Newgrounds will remain as the best place for animators, as well as collaborations and all the fun events that go on.

It is hard to find good games. Kong has it nice getting into the game late, having a better scope from the beginning. I wonder if it's a cause or an effect that the current state of flash games is so focused on daily new games.

The 'hard to find' part of Ng comes down to a few things. Firstly the search bar, it is just useless really, it can't recognise short words in the forums and it makes it hard to find users, especially if they have not submitted games or animations, I had to type in their name into the address bar to go to their page. Some sort of suggestive system for games may sort this out. Kongregate does not have an intuitive voting system, it just gives 1 point per vote, at NG you can revote making you revisit games when updated and refresh your rating giving you blam points etc, updating your rating at kong gives you nothing extra. The medal system is not linked to the levels that you can get on NG, on kongreate the achievements are linked to your account. I also think that the width of page on NG is smaller than kong, this makes less content viewable. There are also things like game CHAT that newgrounds lacks.

We have had the Kongregate/NG arguement before, I'm with NG and I hope you are I only go to Kong to get achievements, their forums are not as active and it seems a lot less personal, I can say we prefer Tom over Jim?

At 7/27/10 10:56 AM, 4urentertainment wrote: GameStop bought Kongregate

Link and related article.

They're going to be giving actual rewards for collecting achievements. I mean, that surely is problematic for other sites such as Newgrounds.
Whatever you do, don't tell these guys.

I feel like a dick for saying that I want this thing to go badly. I have nothing against Kongregate, but I care for Newgrounds so much that I don't want to see it hurt by this new venture.

I don't think this is something that would hurt newgrounds tremendously or anything like that.

In general, games are moving towards digital downloads so retail discs will be out of here completely in a few years or less. Gamestop is just using this as one step to changing their business model from retail to downloadable games. This article talks about Gamestop wanting to expand to games that can be played on any game system or mobile device. This means they are actually going to play a role in the mobile games industry now. They know if they start expanding with downloadable Flash games first, they can start to branch out from there.

I don't think their primary goal is to jump on the flash games bandwagon, that would look silly. I think their ultimate goal is to use this as a stepping stone to a bigger switch from retail to download.

I would tend to agree with Starogre's assessment on this one. Two physical retail game stores have disappeared in our small town due to market saturation and obsolescence. Even folks hellbent on owning a physical copy cannot sustain a retail establishment, and the costs associated with it. They just buy it online. And really, in this day an age, why would anyone want to do business that way? If I need to buy a hammer, I'll go to Fred Meyer. If I need to upgrade Reason IV to V, I want to be doing that quickly, over the internet. I'm glad Gamestop is looking ahead, since one of the two stores that closed here, was a GameStop. I don't think it'll cause any problems for the NG set. Someone sold, and got paid. That's a game everyone should already be playing. :)

Im enjoy these latest post about NG vs GAMESTOP

At 7/27/10 07:54 PM, rome-lherison wrote: Im enjoy these latest post about NG vs GAMESTOP

im enjoying starcraft

speaking of which, feel free to add me:
name: plato
code: 637

SC is for koreans and faggots that like to use words such as CHEESE in regular conversations.

you're the faggot

lolumad?

At 7/27/10 10:03 PM, fwe wrote: lolumad?

i've never used the word cheese in my life and all of a sudden it pops up. i guess it's supposed to be the politically correct form of doing 'gay' strategies

At 7/27/10 10:24 PM, Starogre wrote:

At 7/27/10 10:03 PM, fwe wrote: lolumad?

i've never used the word cheese in my life and all of a sudden it pops up. i guess it's supposed to be the politically correct form of doing 'gay' strategies

well urkle said cheese a lot so he's probably referring to that. Cheese=urkle=annoying/nerdy

At 7/27/10 10:03 PM, fwe wrote: lolumad?

you're cool with your cool internet speak. did you learn that from the 9 year olds?a

At 7/27/10 11:00 PM, turtleco wrote: well urkle said cheese a lot so he's probably referring to that. Cheese=urkle=annoying/nerdy

Ohhhh noo! Nerds on starcraft! Scram! Scram Nerds on a video game scram everyone and get out of here asap !!!! they adopted the use of the word cheese to mean something else than the food !! scram, newgrounders!

Mmm, cheese on Toast.

Is there a type of game like Enigmo on the iPhone but on flash, it is where you have running water and you have to fill a bucket, directing the route of the water with funnels/tubes etc?

Back from Comic Con:

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1185 837

At 7/29/10 02:57 PM, BoMToons wrote: Back from Comic Con:

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1185 837

That's pretty cool what did you see at Comic Con? Also see you did the design in Solidworks?

Hey guys,

I'm participating in a charity even in LA soon and wondered if anyone could spare a few bucks for a good cause:

http://www.gifttool.com/athon/MyFundrais ingPage?ID=168&AID=1241&PID=153803

Even if it's a couple of dollars it will be much apreciated!

bump

also sup guys? ^_^

why the heck does starcraft 2 not let me play with people outside the US. now toast and i can't pwn n00bz

Wow never seen this thread get less posts over summer.

At 8/1/10 10:58 AM, Depredation wrote: Wow never seen this thread get less posts over summer.

got sc2?

At 8/1/10 11:26 AM, Toast wrote: got sc2?

Would do if i had the cash. Looks good.

At 8/1/10 11:34 AM, Depredation wrote:

At 8/1/10 11:26 AM, Toast wrote: got sc2?

Would do if i had the cash. Looks good.

It is good.

It's nice that there are so many noobs now. Even my noob sc2 skills beat their noob sc2 skills. I JUST NEED MORE PYLONS ALL THE TIME.

At 8/1/10 02:46 PM, Coaly wrote: It's nice that there are so many noobs now. Even my noob sc2 skills beat their noob sc2 skills. I JUST NEED MORE PYLONS ALL THE TIME.

CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS.

poweroverwhelming

Making a game in Flash makes me realize how much I hate the Flash IDE, and love FlashDevelop/Flixel..