At 10/14/09 07:46 PM, sir5000 wrote:

At 10/14/09 04:07 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: Over-rated.

I actually kinda agree with the writer in stating that there's no purpose in making any CS apps for the iPhone as it would be tedious and impractical in so many ways...

While I agree in principle with the fact that Adobe would need to break the performance thing wide open before we're all developing Castle Crashers clones in Flash for the iPhone, there's one part of the article that disapoints...

OK, so you are a Windows person and don't have a Mac. So what? Get a Mac. If that's your sole reason you are holding yourself back from doing iPhone development... I'm sorry, but you are delusional.

Actually it's because I'm living on a shoestring as it is, and don't want to be purchasing a grand and a half* worth of hardware solely to POSSIBLY develop applications that MIGHT have a return on investment for another quarter of a grand** worth of hardware I don't own yet.

Because I would have no use for a Mac, or indeed an iPhone/iPod Touch otherwise. I have an MP3 player which holds two gigs of music (seriously, you can listen to more than that before the batteries run out and you need to plug it into the computer anyway?), and I have my current tools which are sufficient for all my artistic and development needs. I do not need another bit of hardware until the stuff I have falls apart. Which means no Windows 7, no getting my offline XP PC upgraded, no buying a PS3 because it's newer than my 360, no buying an acoustic drum kit until I've exhausted every option on my electronic one (hella unlikely), no GH5 until the Rock Band store closes, and certainly no buying a shiny new chunk of silicon that none of my current software will run on without emulation.

If I'm going to develop for iPhone, by all means I'll learn ObjC. I'm planning learning some C# soon as well so I can develop for nonoba server anyway, so two similar languages won't be a massive undertaking. But I'm not going to bother with the practical execution until I can compile it from XP.

Obviously I'm not the target audience here - part timers aren't welcome to this party - and so the chances of Apple opening the floodgates to Windows and *nux users isn't going to happen soon. Apple values it's exclusivity and all.

iPhone developers need to be the kind of people who are ready to throw a massive amount of money into the pot to risk them getting an ROI and spend a really quick time developing a real gimmicky app that hopefully takes flight, or already have to be platform advocates from the web or design industries***, and I have a strong feeling there's more emphasis on the latter group of old pros than there are of the former. There was a hope that with Flash being able to compile to .ipa gives another avenue to an indie developer or a freelancer without putting an extra straw on thier already quite brittle backs, as well as giving hobbyists free reign.

* iMac 24inch Core 2 Duo - £1,199.00
** New Apple iPod touch 32GB - £222.00
Source, Amazon.co.uk

*** Who owns a Mac and *isn't* working in the print, audio or web design sectors? Or isn't a pretentious college/university student (in which case, they should save themselves a few hundred pounds and buy a beret)

You need to spend money to make money...
Being entrepreneurial takes risks. the idea is to take calculated ones.

At 10/15/09 10:08 AM, Luis wrote: You need to spend money to make money...

This is one of the most important truths in business. You always hear so many romantic stories of self-made millionaires who started out from scratch. I'm willing to bet the percentage of people who succeed in that way is smaller than 0.0001%.

At 10/14/09 11:33 PM, BoMToons wrote: I've just been put in charge of Boy Scouts in my church. All the boys seem really un-motivated by their current leaders. Any advice on how to motivate 12-17 yr old boys to accomplish goals?

Man, good luck! That's a rough age group/gender to motivate.

My only suggestion would be to make an awesome reward that is the leading goal for the motivation. Like a rock climbing trip, or something fun like that. And remember: One day they'll look back and be really grateful for all the work you're doing, but they may not say so right now. Keep at it, you're helping them in the long run!

Heh that sucks. 2Games just being the sponsor I suppose he couldn't know (talked to the guy a couple of times, he's also the guy behind Bubblebox.com and a Flash developer himself). Any idea who the real author is?

At 10/15/09 01:31 PM, Xeptic wrote: Heh that sucks. 2Games just being the sponsor I suppose he couldn't know (talked to the guy a couple of times, he's also the guy behind Bubblebox.com and a Flash developer himself). Any idea who the real author is?

Well its blammed now for some reason... he must have removed it.
meh. removed the post, no point in linking to a broken link.

If all my oranges have oranges, how many oranges do I have?

2 possible answers.

At 10/15/09 02:45 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: If all my oranges have oranges, how many oranges do I have?

2 possible answers.

Actually just one possible answer. The other option you were thinking of - while it can be mathematically described - is not a "possibility". And of course, if you go as far as to neglect those limits, you might aswell say that there are 3 possible answers.

At 10/15/09 02:45 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: If all my oranges have oranges, how many oranges do I have?

2 possible answers.

I don't know but is the answer the 5 Shades of Orange collab? Or would that just be a shameless plug to the other thread? :)

At 10/15/09 06:31 AM, KaynSlamdyke wrote: iPhone developers need to be the kind of people who are ready to throw a massive amount of money into the pot to risk them getting an ROI

Because I am already a mac user, my iphone dev license (which will go 90% unused) only cost me $100.
Glorp, my crappy-ass "first iphone app", sold about 140 copies total, making me about $100, so I broke even.

Apple would be stupid to open up development to windows machines. They know the store is flooded as it is, and they know that people are gonna buy macs so they can develop for the device.

The iphone is not a powerhouse for graphics btw, so if you want to do anything special on it flash is not gonna be the way to go, but it'll be fine for simple games.

At 10/15/09 02:45 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: If all my oranges have oranges, how many oranges do I have?

2 possible answers.

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At 10/15/09 03:02 PM, Toast wrote: Actually just one possible answer. The other option you were thinking of - while it can be mathematically described - is not a "possibility". And of course, if you go as far as to neglect those limits, you might aswell say that there are 3 possible answers.

Let's think in abstract terms.

Crap, I decided to make a game for Media Studies and it hasn't gone well. I kind of shoved it to the side while doing other subject coursework and now I have to finish an 8 week project in 1 week.

It's time to work.

Heres where it crashed!:

Hehehe, awesome, that's quite the gory game you got there :)

At 10/16/09 01:40 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: Crap, I decided to make a game for Media Studies and it hasn't gone well. I kind of shoved it to the side while doing other subject coursework and now I have to finish an 8 week project in 1 week.

It's time to work.

Ouch. Well good luck. I've done that myself once or twice. Lots of sleepless nights......

At 10/16/09 04:29 PM, JKR wrote: Ouch. Well good luck. I've done that myself once or twice. Lots of sleepless nights......

I'm just taking a beak while watching Peep show. My cat was kind though and bought me a dead squirrel with it's heads and forelegs ripped off.

I hate cats.

Nice! Nothing like a dead squirrel to motivate the inner artist.

I think.

Cats are weird. Fun, but very odd.

LIKE OH EM GEE CHECK OUT MY NEW DRAWINGZ

At 10/16/09 07:37 PM, Blackfang wrote: LIKE OH EM GEE CHECK OUT MY NEW DRAWINGZ

Tetris: Behind the scenes

At 10/16/09 07:39 PM, zrb wrote: I FUCKING LOVE IT. Looks pretty awesome. So simple yet so fresh looking :)

THANKS ZRB. I'm gonna make another one but more complex. Still keep it simple but just...and upgrade.

In my English class we had to write short stories. Some kid wrote a story about cocks, assholes, and jizz, then put my name on it and left it on the teacher's desk.

I wasn't able to read much of it, but i sorta stopped reading after "It was at that point that Mr Poppy found out he had large amounts of jizz in his pockets."

Also over half the class hates me. Probly won't figure out who did it.

At 10/16/09 08:55 PM, fluffkomix wrote: In my English class we had to write short stories. Some kid wrote a story about cocks, assholes, and jizz, then put my name on it and left it on the teacher's desk.

Also over half the class hates me. Probly won't figure out who did it.

That's one of the better practical jokes I've heard of. Sorry your life sucks :(

At 10/15/09 02:45 PM, Deadclever23 wrote: If all my oranges have oranges, how many oranges do I have?

You have the amount of oranges that you received, not the oranges your oranges have, as they are not yours..

In that case, you should take this to court and demand custody of those oranges from your oranges, thus increasing your orange count.

But in that case, you mentioned that your oranges have oranges, so if those oranges become yours, then they too will possess oranges.

Then you can take that to court and receive custody of those oranges.

When those oranges become your oranges, then those oranges will have oranges.

Then you can...

protip: make sure your version of flash is up to date! it could be the solution to hours of frustration.

At 10/16/09 06:08 PM, JKR wrote: Cats are weird. Fun, but very odd.

I recently discovered that cats are great to watch when thinking about basic creature AI.
My cat fails at pathfinding - She tried to get at a toy through the gap between a laptop's screen and base, before finally realising it could go around the laptop.
That said, cats are still very cute.

Mine is currently lying on her side with her paw over her eyes. Daww...

At 10/16/09 07:37 PM, Blackfang wrote: LIKE OH EM GEE CHECK OUT MY NEW DRAWINGZ

Looks great!
It really makes me want to navigate my way around it with a tiny character (that's a compliment, by the way)!

It's amazing how fast things can get done when you have a deadline.

At 10/17/09 09:27 AM, Deadclever23 wrote: It's amazing how fast things can get done when you have a deadline.

I finished an 8 week project in a week and 2 days. Was proud.

At 10/17/09 09:27 AM, Deadclever23 wrote: It's amazing how fast things can get done when you have a deadline.

It's true. Deadlines are magical.

At 10/17/09 09:39 AM, Saza wrote:

At 10/17/09 09:27 AM, Deadclever23 wrote: It's amazing how fast things can get done when you have a deadline.

I finished an 8 week project in a week and 2 days. Was proud.

I feel you, I'm working on a Halloween animation and I finished my initial blocking in only 3 days. :D

Advanced blocking is taking a while though, :/