I quite like the idea of charging people for superficial stuff. I'm sure you could find a tonne of people willing to pay a small amount of money to play through your platformer as Michael Jackson or whatever, and for the time it takes for you to do an extra spritesheet it's a good deal for everyone involved. Still like I said, small stuff like that really needs a standardised payment system - once you get to the stage of small purchases, the inconveinence of actually paying is costing more than the purchase itself.

I was thinking about having adverts for new features which automaticall appear when someone loads the game for the second time or whatever. That way, you're already restricting the people who'll see them to people who like your game anyway, and you're not going to get OMG VOTE ZEROed by people who get scared away by that sort of thing.

At 7/15/09 01:29 PM, Duchednier wrote: And the crazy thing is, with the amount of hits that the game will get while on frontpage and mochi or wherever else on the internet that its played, how much money do you think this game is making for the author(s)?

You can make a lot, Fantastic Contraption sold a level editor for $10 and made well over $100k (and counting, I imagine. Thing is, the hardest thing to do is getting people to get their wallet out. Once they have, the difference between paying $0.50 and $5 for a bit of light entertainment is pretty small. Lets just hope people dont get too greedy :)

Very off topic, but Simple Wikipedia is addictive as hell :P

The only thing in an game i'd pay for is DLC. Like...new weapons, new maps, new gameplay types, new features. Things that make the boring game you baught fun again.

At 7/15/09 02:21 PM, Blackfang wrote: The only thing in an game i'd pay for is DLC. Like...new weapons, new maps, new gameplay types, new features. Things that make the boring game you baught fun again.

Exactly. Like this RPG I'm coding right now, if I ever were to decide to stick in MochiCoins or something, it would be like Oblivion's DLC. You know, a new town to explore. Maybe a massive dungeon with a bunch of new weapons and enemies, stuff like that. Even if I did that, I would still charge, most likely, under $7.00 for it, because the way I see it, it's a way to enhance a flash game, it's not Oblivion where they can get $20.00 for something.

At 7/15/09 02:08 PM, Paranoia wrote: Very off topic, but Simple Wikipedia is addictive as hell :P

I love simple wikipedia's articles on simplicity and complexity.

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics

To me, the only 'ethical' things you can sell in as an add on to a game are levels, weapons, badguys and a level editor. You shouldn't sell a main point of it, but an improvement of one that's expected.

I personally would never get out a credit card for a flash game upgrade, but that's because I'm incredibly autistic when it comes to credit card details, but I would definatly use my phone to spend a quid or two on something genuinely worth it, as it's less direct and no credit cards would be needed. If Portal: The Flash Version released an extra 25 levels for a pound, I would get out my phone to buy it on the spot, but this would only be true for a handful of awesome games.

What I do think should be added more on flash games are the 'buy me a coffee' type things that are on blogs, where the user just donates straight to the designer a pound or two. Not sure how effective they are, but they are probably worth adding.

ALSO: I'm making a full API game that's fast paced that I want to release as a proper game. Do you think it's a good idea to add sound, even though it will stop it being a 'true' API game (as there would be something in the library)? I'll kinda feel dirty if I do. I want the library to be clean. I considered hosting them on a server and loading them from there but Newgrounds threw loads of sandbox errors when I last made a game when I tried to do that.

I know I used 'API' in the wrong sense but for some reason everyone uses it in this way when talking about flash, and you know what I'm talking about.

Also: sorry for double post, but I came across an ASCII version of portal (its just a video at the moment - he hasn't released it yet). It looks amazing. Btw - he says it's open for beta but he since has made it private.

Added medals to an old gem of mine. Hopefully folks will enjoy just how huge this game is now:

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  Trick-or-Treat Adventure!

  by Mockery

  "Trick-or-Treat Adventure Quest" is a HUGE Halloween-themed point-n-click advent

  Game

  1,172,936 Views

  (Ages 13+)

At 7/15/09 08:01 PM, BoMToons wrote: Added medals to an old gem of mine. Hopefully folks will enjoy just how huge this game is now:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/40 8167

loved that game when i first played it. as for the new medals, i must say, i like the way you rhymed incest with best to create a potentially awkward achievement for anyone.

If you do make extra levels and what not. Please please make them balanced and not just completely half arsed. I bought swords and sandals 3 after playing the trial, the rest of the game is so ridiculous, but they knew you'd already bought it, so who cares if its not up to the standard of the rest of the game.

Id happily use my phone to buy stuff, id much rather do that then a credit card. And the kids love wasting there credit on crappy ring tones and what not, there's clearly money for taking from those clowns.

I think in multiplayer games that kind of revenue has the most potential, people love to show up with all the new fancy hats they have bought for their in game character. People love paying for dress up games as long as its disguised as something else.

I don't think has been mentioned but I think it's of great interest, especially since many of you are scientifically and mathematically minded. I'm sure you've heard about it too but I'm going to pretend I'm revealing it to you for the first time (it sounds really exciting when I say it like this).

Bill Gates purchased the rights to some lectures made by theoretical physicist (winner of the Nobel prize, the Einstein award, plus many others) Richard Feynman. They have been released on Microsofts "Research" web application which aims to link related articles, for example if you watch one of these lectures you will notice articles/information popping up on the right regarding what is being currently said.

It's a fantastic opportunity to learn about physics from someone who was a master of his field.

The only problem I had with it is that it uses Silverlight (of course), which means I had to launch Firefox (boo) though I assume most of you use Firefox anyway and will only dislike Silverlight because it's not Flash ;) That is another reason I dislike it - Silverlight was developed solely to give Microsoft their own Flash competitor, but nobody uses it except them. It's an unnecessary competitor. It works pretty well while watching the lectures, though the subtitling is a bit shaky, but you'd expect it to =p

'Tuva'.

At 7/16/09 06:36 AM, liaaaam wrote: It's an unnecessary competitor.

No such thing. Competition forces other companies to re-evaluate thier own project to maintain thier natural monopolies. Silverlight, by nature of existing, helped convince Adobe to open up the SWF format to a more open format and gave them a kick to making a decent Flash port for Smartphones and Set Top Boxes. Maybe if Silverlight gains some actual strength rather than it's monolith-corporate backing, Adobe will fix some of Flash's most glaring flaws for version 11.

At 7/16/09 06:36 AM, liaaaam wrote: Bill Gates purchased the rights to some lectures made by theoretical physicist (winner of the Nobel prize, the Einstein award, plus many others) Richard Feynman. They have been released on Microsofts "Research" web application which aims to link related articles, for example if you watch one of these lectures you will notice articles/information popping up on the right regarding what is being currently said.

I downloaded all the Feynman lectures on physics already. Saying he was a master in his field would be an understatement, for some reason I love him more as a human being than a physicist, despite his brilliant achievements. It's great to see that people aren't forgetting him

Paranoia > Mindchamber

According to this.

At 7/16/09 10:00 AM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: Paranoia > Mindchamber

According to this.

Hang on. The server where all the content is stored is only responsible for 1.2% of Newgrounds views?

At 7/16/09 10:00 AM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: Paranoia > Mindchamber

Booyah.

I downloaded all the Feynman lectures on physics already. Saying he was a master in his field would be an understatement, for some reason I love him more as a human being than a physicist, despite his brilliant achievements. It's great to see that people aren't forgetting him

I completely agree.

At 7/16/09 10:00 AM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: Paranoia > Mindchamber

According to this.

I don't quite believe that, because I see no reason why I should be on about place 40 on such a list :P

If it was correct I would obviously have been on at least top 5!

On a totally unrelated note: the video card on my 360 is fried. FF7 is now the game to play for the upcoming like 3-4 weeks *can't decide between a happy or a sad smiley here*

At 7/16/09 11:49 AM, knugen wrote: I don't quite believe that, because I see no reason why I should be on about place 40 on such a list :P

I have your user page open all day and hit refresh every couple of mins.

At 7/16/09 11:54 AM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote:

At 7/16/09 11:49 AM, knugen wrote: I don't quite believe that, because I see no reason why I should be on about place 40 on such a list :P

I have your user page open all day and hit refresh every couple of mins.

That reminds me, i better go refresh paranoias userpage.

At 7/16/09 11:54 AM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: I have your user page open all day and hit refresh every couple of mins.

I kno rite, who doesn't?

At 7/16/09 12:22 PM, knugen wrote: I kno rite, who doesn't?

Definitely not me.

At 7/16/09 11:49 AM, knugen wrote: On a totally unrelated note: the video card on my 360 is fried. FF7 is now the game to play for the upcoming like 3-4 weeks *can't decide between a happy or a sad smiley here*

its a happy faic unless you have recently played through the game. Its very nostalgic.

At 7/16/09 05:08 PM, MichaelHurst wrote:

At 7/16/09 12:22 PM, knugen wrote: I kno rite, who doesn't?

Definitely not me.

You're such a rebel. Come here and let me touch your big manly muscles. Ohh feels good man

ATTN: Hollywood

Please stop remaking old films.

At 7/16/09 05:13 PM, Toast wrote:

At 7/16/09 05:08 PM, MichaelHurst wrote:

At 7/16/09 12:22 PM, knugen wrote: I kno rite, who doesn't?

Definitely not me.

You're such a rebel. Come here and let me touch your big manly muscles. Ohh feels good man

We all know you weren't joking you fag :)

At 7/16/09 11:49 AM, knugen wrote: On a totally unrelated note: the video card on my 360 is fried.

The same happened to me a few weeks ago. Yet to get it fixed/a new 360.

At 7/16/09 05:43 PM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: ATTN: Hollywood

Please stop remaking old films.

They're remaking Flash Gordon? It better be epic.
It won't be epic.
It won't have Brian Blessed going "Gordon's alive?!"
Sad faic.

I'm starting to get a bit nervous here, my programmer for the Power of Three has been aparently dead for over a month now, I've tried contacting him on MSN, PM and E-mail, but he just won't answer back, the frustration is horrifying, we were supposed to have the playable demo for this month but I haven't been able to see ANYTHING at all from him, he hasn't really posted on the BBS, reviewed or really done ANYTHING at all since the last time I spoke to him on MSN, which was, if I remember right, June 7th or something like that.

At 7/16/09 08:23 PM, Zyphonee wrote: Programmer missing

Try and find a new one would be my only thought, our team is on its 3rd programmer now :P

At 7/16/09 05:43 PM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: ATTN: Hollywood

Please stop remaking old films.

Oh deeaaarrr, that sucks. Especially since the original was such a classic! Ugh it was so creepy but fantastic... i guess the word to use would be "Fun" really.

Were talking about the original japanese one right? or was there an american version made?

At 7/16/09 10:09 AM, KaynSlamdyke wrote:

At 7/16/09 10:00 AM, Kirk-Cocaine wrote: Paranoia > Mindchamber

Hang on. The server where all the content is stored is only responsible for 1.2% of Newgrounds views?

I beleive the graph counts pageviews, not where the info is being pulled from. 97% or whatever it is, of the pageviews are to NG.com, the only times the ungrounded is accessed i THINK would be when people upload flash?

(and i realize of course the flash's are all pulled from there when viewing, but it doesn't count as a pageview)