Flash stealing sites piss me off. Especially when they keep the friggin' newgrounds loading screen or whatever. That aside, I doubt it would end up in the papers since every 10 year olds making flash websites called www.newbounds.com or something nowadays.

At 5/26/06 12:51 PM, Asvegren wrote: Good luck, the police can't touch him and you know it.

I've already got the creator of Final Fantasy A+ on his ass

Nice, think of all the website hits we're giving him...

Guys, stop taking is so hard. Tom should care, you shouldn't.

At 5/26/06 12:54 PM, BumFodder wrote:

At 5/26/06 12:51 PM, Asvegren wrote: Good luck, the police can't touch him and you know it.

I've already got the creator of Final Fantasy A+ on his ass

Ooh, since you seems to be Mr.Wiseass, then you maybe can answer the question that was mentioned before:

Hello everybody out there! First of all I would like to say something to your all guys

mater ti jebem! (:

I would like to know about this download from newgrounds.com server "David vs. Goliath" why do I get spyware?

Puss <3

Update:

Me: what question?

At 5/26/06 12:45 PM, Knaz_Mongo wrote: Johan Höglund will own the crap out of you!

Well, if you want to send that guy hatemail, you might want to do it through this
email-spammer. For legal reasons, I don't recommend using this, but it's your choice.

Just don't put your email as the sender, and you'll be okay.

eMail-Bomber

At 5/26/06 01:04 PM, BumFodder wrote: Update:

Me: what question?

I would like to know about this download from newgrounds.com server "David vs. Goliath" why do I get spyware?

I smell a flame war coming on. And its not just a Derek Smart one either. I admire your courage for this one.

At 5/26/06 12:54 PM, BumFodder wrote:

At 5/26/06 12:51 PM, Asvegren wrote: Good luck, the police can't touch him and you know it.

I've already got the creator of Final Fantasy A+ on his ass

Oh joy, what's he going to do? Travel to Sweden, hire an attorney, pay a lot of money, waste a lot of time, and maybe, maybe have his Flash taken down?

Update:

Him: > what question?

The one I've been referring to since the first email from you arrived...

You talked about articles in the newspapers as a fact, but there hasn't
been any articles, still you are so goddamn sure that they till exist. You
said those articles was "a fact" and not only results of your imagination.

So please, tell me about them!
Otherwise, confess that you are a liar.

Regards, Johan Höglund

Me: Here http://newgrounds.co../topic.php?id=492894

In a completely unrelated question, do any of you remember Derek Smart?

At 5/26/06 01:13 PM, BumFodder wrote:

[...] You talked about articles in the newspapers as a fact,[...]

So please, tell me about them!
Otherwise, confess that you are a liar.

Regards, Johan Höglund

Me: Here http://newgrounds.co../topic.php?id=492894

Hahaha, I never guessed that NG is a newspaper. :D

At 5/26/06 01:13 PM, BumFodder wrote: Him: > what question?

The one I've been referring to since the first email from you arrived...

You talked about articles in the newspapers as a fact, but there hasn't
been any articles, still you are so goddamn sure that they till exist. You
said those articles was "a fact" and not only results of your imagination.

So please, tell me about them!
Otherwise, confess that you are a liar.

Regards, Johan Höglund

Me: Here http://newgrounds.co../topic.php?id=492894

Oh christ, this isn't a damn article.

Listen, the whole eBaum's thing is old. This is a relatively small (international measures), Swedish website. None of the visitors would know anything at all about Newgrounds or the artists here if they didn't host the Flash.

Get over it, slap some damn protection on your files if they are so important. Or better yet, PUT YOUR NAME ON THEM and link to your own site. Be happy for the additional exposure and traffic you would get instead of whining about it.

And BumFodder, you're handling this in a completely retarded way. You're hardly even reading his responses and you're not even making a good point. He doesn't care if NG hates him, all his traffic comes from Sweden. Got it?

At 5/26/06 01:18 PM, Asvegren wrote: something

If you wouldn't mind I was doing this for entertainment, not for debating.

Thats why I i'm not really replying to people.

Sorry if I upset anybody.

and if you think this topic is dumb then just ignore it

At 5/26/06 01:04 PM, Johan_hoeglund wrote: Yes, I do live in Västerås.

If you'd like, your are welcome to have a chat with me/us about this matter. We are neither 10year olds using freeweb templates or some brats from stockholm trying to steal money on the Internet...

Lol, n00b.
There, I said it for you.

At 5/26/06 01:23 PM, Kromeclutch wrote:

:: Lol, n00b.

There, I said it for you.

But we gotta hand it to him. He signed up for ng knowing he'd be completely flamed.

He pretty much served you in those emails.

At 5/26/06 01:26 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: He pretty much served you in those emails.

go serve yourself

; to death

At 5/26/06 01:25 PM, Scarab797 wrote:

At 5/26/06 01:23 PM, Kromeclutch wrote:

Lol, n00b.

There, I said it for you.

But we gotta hand it to him. He signed up for ng knowing he'd be completely flamed.

True, true.

At 5/26/06 01:27 PM, BumFodder wrote: go serve yourself

; to death

Like at a buffet?

At 5/26/06 01:04 PM, Johan_hoeglund wrote: If you'd like, your are welcome to have a chat with me/us about this matter. We are neither 10year olds using freeweb templates or some brats from stockholm trying to steal money on the Internet...

No I know that you aren't a ten year old brat from Stockholm. I read your article when it was publiced in Aftonbladet and read it today aswell to be given an update on the subject.

However, you are young for having an own website, just as Tom Fulp was when he made Newgrounds.

(By the way, browsing for my adress and threatening me in private is just ridicilous... If you're arguing about a legal matter - piracy, stick to legal methods!)

Haha, no that was just a joke. XD

I was just gonna check if I could get out your exact adress, and it wasn't hard. Just took me a few minutes. I did that before and felt like I'd see if it was just an coincidence or if Sweden really is like an open book when it comes to finding private persons; just like they say in "Livvakterna" which I guess you have seen.

However, yeah, I hoped you could have spotted sarcasm in my post since I couldn't be bothered to visit you.

Anyways, about the legal matters, the thing is that you do need the author's permission to have the his/her content on your site. Otherwise, you are infact breaking the law.

Notice now that I'm not saying that you are hosting material on your site without the author's permission, but that if you do, then you should take it off untill you have the author's permission.

The reason to why authors doesn't just give away their work to any site is that someone else will make money on their work through advertisement revenue. Which is your site's income source.

So, if lets say that you got Flash work that you don't have permission to host on your site, you would actually be making money instead of someone else doing it, who actually got permission to do so.

"Well, what does it matter if two sites host the same movie/game?" you may ask.

What matters is that the audience of this movie/game will not visit the same site. Instead there will be two sites hosting the Flash file, and both sites will have a smaller number of visitors, and the site which got permission to host the movie/game won't get as many people visiting the site, and thereby the ad revenue won't be as large for them, causing economical losses.

That must be one of Eric Bauman's old sites.

Anderson:

How come everybody with acceptable arguments, come from Sweden? Which you, if I've understood it right, do.

You've actually got a point there. While I - if I were a flash-movie maker - would gladly accept Johan to advertise and distribute my creations for me, many people would probably not.

But this "treathing about suing for fun"-thing is pretty ridiculous. And in the other thread, I read this post: "theyve got some fuckred up language". Oh, before complaining about our language, learn speaking english yourself! Well, we don't have english as a primary language, but I've met thousands of Swedish people, who speak better English than for example Bush, and he would be your president?

And I did know what envy could do, but threating to sue somebody because he is more popular than you. That is both tragic, and amusing. Well, I know that suing is slowly but surely becoming your national sport, but don't overdo it. Take a break and go to MCDonalds to eat your national food instead, will ya? Let those who are responsible for the creations do the suing instead. And you know what? There have been threats to sue Johan many times before, and the result of the two only time he "lost"? He deleted a game about shooting gays and a sex test which some people were dumb enough to try. And I don't see why this time would end otherwise than a deletion of some games or nothing at all.

At 5/26/06 01:28 PM, Scarab797 wrote:

At 5/26/06 01:27 PM, BumFodder wrote: go serve yourself

; to death

Like at a buffet?

sounds tasty

At 5/27/06 10:30 AM, delpieric wrote: Stuff...

Hehe, as I said, I was being sarcastic. And since I'm from Sweden, my national sport is not to sue people, neither is our national food the cheapest meny on McDonalds.

But then again, I think your post seems a little equivocal, so I'm not entirely sure if the whole post was directed towards me.

But my point is not that I'd sue him, that would just take too much effort. However, it wouldn't take much effort from Johan to ask the authors for their permission to host their games if he haven't done that.

To do so is a good and honourable guesture and it'd keep a site legal.

Lol they expect us to believe they made madness.

Dicks.

At 5/27/06 10:43 AM, -Slayer- wrote: no one can read anything on that site so who gives a shit?

Are you sure? I can. And I actually believe that about 7.5 million Swedes excluding me can. (there are probably people outside Sweden, especially in Finland, that would)

At 5/27/06 10:46 AM, ThePlasticCheese wrote: Lol they expect us to believe they made madness.

Dicks.

Oh, if you could read Swedish, you'd know that Johan didn't take any credit for making these files. And go easy on the personal abusing, ok? Oh, I forgot that you'd set your mature-level very low, but i'd hope you'd grow up, just a little bit.

Andersson: No, nothing but the beginning was pointed against you.

At 5/28/06 05:09 PM, -Slayer- wrote: no one cares about sweden. what have they done for the world?

What have YOU done for the world the last 50 years? Expect for waging a countless numbers of wars and making McDonalds a global corporation.

At 5/28/06 05:09 PM, -Slayer- wrote: no one cares about sweden. what have they done for the world?

I can guess people in Sweden care about Sweden. Anyway, its home of Ikea.

At 6/2/06 02:55 PM, Sanch wrote:

At 6/2/06 02:52 PM, Paxdax wrote:

At 5/28/06 05:09 PM, -Slayer- wrote: no one cares about sweden. what have they done for the world?

What have YOU done for the world the last 50 years? Expect for waging a countless numbers of wars and making McDonalds a global corporation.

Because a single person is completely responsible for the actions of another just because they're loosely related.

Yup.

Unless you are completely retarded you would understand that with YOU, I meant Americans. Although I doesn´t doubt that he has been playing a mayor role in the growth of McDonalds.