At 9/5/08 08:53 PM, Marsupial wrote:

At 9/5/08 08:49 PM, Skeik-Sprite wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/42 4683

The first one/

you understand that this isnt the abusive review thread?

Sorry, I clicked the wrong thread XD

I'd like to join this club! I'm not completely sure if I understood the point system though: Am I going to review some or all of the weekly submissions and get points for this? And shall I post my weekly points in this thread so you can keep track of it? Where are every user and their points stored anyways?

There are many things I find confusing, probably because you only use this thread to give information, get review requests, get members etc. I suggest a web site! :D I can help creating one...

- Svinepels

Hey guys, It would be great if you all recomended this to the halo collection for me, I really need it to be seen and I think I need more reviews... Thnaks

Current points: 0 :'(

This week points:

5 points for reviewing a Movie flash
+
7 points for reviewing a audio submission
+
2 points for putting [Review Request Club] on the reviews
+
3 points for post once this week

My internet connection only stabilize Friday, so I'll be more active this week

I counted 151 points this week but I'm not sure.

Hi I'd like some feedback on my MAC8 submission:

.:HMS:. Ephemera MAC8

Thanks

At 9/6/08 05:31 PM, svinepels wrote: I'd like to join this club!

Hi and welcome to the club!

I'm not completely sure if I understood the point system though: Am I going to review some or all of the weekly submissions and get points for this?

People request reviews for their submissions in this thread. You get points for reviewing those.
Once a week a list is posted that contains all requests made during that week. I suggest that you start reviewing the requests Bezman posted on the list on page 184 (the list is near the bottom of the page).

And shall I post my weekly points in this thread so you can keep track of it?

Once you have reviewed as many requests as you like you post your points in this thread and you will be included to the list. You should report back until next Sunday.
May I suggest that you put a bit more thought into your reviews? Some of them are fine and detailed, but you also have some reviews that are only one sentence long. Those aren't helpful for the author at all. Tell them what you liked and what you didn't like. Then try to give some advice on how the author can improve their submission.

Where are every user and their points stored anyways?

Once a week there is an update of the memberlist. The current list was posted by me on page 183. You also find a list of how many points you get for what in that post.

There are many things I find confusing, probably because you only use this thread to give information, get review requests, get members etc. I suggest a web site! :D I can help creating one...

A webiste isn't necessary, it's just too much work. This is a club that reviews NG-submissions and nothing else. This thread is good enough for all our needs. ;)

Once a week a list is posted that contains all requests made during that week. I suggest that you start reviewing the requests Bezman posted on the list on page 184 (the list is near the bottom of the page).

Got it.

Once you have reviewed as many requests as you like you post your points in this thread and you will be included to the list. You should report back until next Sunday.

Alright.

May I suggest that you put a bit more thought into your reviews? Some of them are fine and detailed, but you also have some reviews that are only one sentence long. Those aren't helpful for the author at all. Tell them what you liked and what you didn't like. Then try to give some advice on how the author can improve their submission.

Of course, no need to compare my older reviews to what I'll contribute with in this club :)

A webiste isn't necessary, it's just too much work. This is a club that reviews NG-submissions and nothing else. This thread is good enough for all our needs. ;)

I wasn't thinking of a big site, maybe just a small site where general information (rules, users and points) is available and easy to find (no need to scroll through this thread to gather information), so you can link to this site instead of posting the same posts in this forum on every new page. May I suggest a wetpaint wiki site? That's definitely not too much work ;)

Thanks for the membership!

14 audio 8 x 14 = 112
9 flash 6 x 9 = 54
112 + 54 = 166
166 + 399 = 565
total: 565

also i'm sorry to say this but i wont be submitting points anymore, because although it's fun fact is what with some of you ranting on about quality of reviewing.
well honestly you kinda sucked the fun right out of it.
telling me what to do doesn't work for me.
this is a pretty good idea. but i am not bothered about point system anymore.
so i will still review, not all but some..
but if you want me out of the club, then just say.
thanks for letting me hang around in the first place, it was fun while it lasted...

At 9/7/08 11:44 AM, svinepels wrote: I wasn't thinking of a big site, maybe just a small site where general information (rules, users and points) is available and easy to find (no need to scroll through this thread to gather information), so you can link to this site instead of posting the same posts in this forum on every new page. May I suggest a wetpaint wiki site? That's definitely not too much work ;)

Thanks for the membership!

I think that posting the club info on the top of each page has a few advantages.

a) it puts the info in front of casual requestors, who may not click a link. With the rules at the top of each page, folk no longer have an excuse to not read them.

b) club regulars are reminded of the rules and could easily spot something that needs to be changed

c) as it's a big post, new members are maybe more likely to notice it and continue posting it each page.

If it were on a website, we'd be able to fit more info in. However, all the info we'd want to put in is already less than the character limit of a single post.

Having said that, someone suggested trimming the 'page-ly post' - only keeping the most important rules - and linking to a web page with more info. That way, folk may be more likely to pay attention to what's written.

I had no clue what a 'wetpaint wiki site' is but am checking it out now.
http://newgroundsrrc.wetpaint.com

I agree with the advantages you mentioned, but still an additional wetpaint can be pretty useful in many ways.

I had no clue what a 'wetpaint wiki site' is but am checking it out now.
http://newgroundsrrc.wetpaint.com

Nice, I joined! Let's try to build up a decent wetpaint site. Wetpaint is a type of wiki site where anyone one the net can register and contribute (don't worry, if spammers are caught they can easily be banned and pages can be restored). Very easy to use, and developed to be perfect for clubs, clans and people that share the same interest. Like "Review Request Club" :D

At 9/7/08 02:45 PM, X3cutioner wrote: 14 audio 8 x 14 = 112
9 flash 6 x 9 = 54
112 + 54 = 166
166 + 399 = 565
total: 565

i too am confused with the points. Where are you getting the extra 399 points from!?

At 9/7/08 05:04 PM, Marsupial wrote:

At 9/7/08 02:45 PM, X3cutioner wrote: 14 audio 8 x 14 = 112
9 flash 6 x 9 = 54
112 + 54 = 166
166 + 399 = 565
total: 565

i too am confused with the points. Where are you getting the extra 399 points from!?

I'm guessing the 399 points are coming from the total score he has gotten from past weeks. Even though I never included those points in my totals before.

Seems as though I didnt get time to do the reviews this week, seems a bit of a waste actually, but lectures start this week, so I'll get some routine going :P

Oh and Haggard, I can do the updates again if you wanna work something out :D

At 9/8/08 09:09 AM, Shanus wrote: Oh and Haggard, I can do the updates again if you wanna work something out :D

I'd be glad if you can take over again. Life is getting a bit busier right now. ^^

So, will you do the update today or should I do it once more?

Take a look at the website: http://newgroundsrcc.wetpaint.com
I made some updates there. Feel free to join, anyone who has registered can contribute easily.
- Svinepels, newbie

At 9/8/08 12:23 PM, svinepels wrote: Take a look at the website: http://newgroundsrcc.wetpaint.com
I made some updates there. Feel free to join, anyone who has registered can contribute easily.
- Svinepels, newbie

oops.. wrong link. I meant http://www.newgroundsrrc.wetpaint.com
Sorry!

At 9/8/08 09:30 AM, Haggard wrote:

At 9/8/08 09:09 AM, Shanus wrote: Oh and Haggard, I can do the updates again if you wanna work something out :D

I'd be glad if you can take over again. Life is getting a bit busier right now. ^^

So, will you do the update today or should I do it once more?

Well if you could do it it would be greatly appreciated. As I don't have the datasheets :P

Who's gonna do the Thursday list when Bez leaves??

At 9/8/08 12:47 PM, Shanus wrote:

At 9/8/08 09:30 AM, Haggard wrote:

At 9/8/08 09:09 AM, Shanus wrote: Oh and Haggard, I can do the updates again if you wanna work something out :D

I'd be glad if you can take over again. Life is getting a bit busier right now. ^^

So, will you do the update today or should I do it once more?

Well if you could do it it would be greatly appreciated. As I don't have the datasheets :P

Ok, the next update will come tomorrow then. It's a bit late here already. ^^

Who's gonna do the Thursday list when Bez leaves??

I can do that. Shouldn't take too long.

CLUB INFO
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General Rules for Requesters:
If you are planning on requesting reviews, please:
- Post a direct link to the submission(s) you want reviewed.
- Make no more than 3 requests within one week.
- Do us a favour and respond to our reviews.
- Be patient. Due to the points system, you may not see reviews until up to two weeks after you request.
- Do NOT request without posting a link.
- Do NOT just say "Review everything" or just link to your profile.
- Do NOT request reviews for the same submission more than once.

General Rules for New Reviewers:
If you are planning on completing requests, please do the following:
- Post in this thread to let us know you'd like to join.
- Understand the points system and keep track of your own score. You will only be added to the list if you post your own score within the first week.

Points:
**Please also keep track of your own points. If you see something missing, it's probably a mistake**
**To be on the list, you must make at least one review, posters only will not be counted**
5 points for a review on a requested movie/game
7 points for a review on a requested audio
+1 point for putting "Review Request Club" at the bottom of a requested review
3 points for posting at least once throughout the week
5 points for referring a new member (must mention you in first post)
7 points for reviewing all requests/recommendations for that week

Club updates
Each Sunday or Monday, Haggard or Shanus currently create a list of all the members, counting up their points, calculating various stats and posting a list of requested submissions. Assuming you review the submissions listed, you will get points for them on the following members' update, 6 or 7 days later.

On Thursday, Bezman currently creates a list of all requests and recommendations made up until then, since the previous thursday. This can be seen as a 'preview' of the list that will accompany the following members' update on Sunday/Monday. The points for these are tallied 10 days later.

Requests made between the 'preview list' and the 'members' update' carry over to the next preview list. So you will always have over 9 days to finish the reviews. (Feel free to review submissions as soon as they are requested!)

FAQ
Should we have a FAQ?
I don't know. It kinda seems like overkill.

Should I link to the club in my sig?
There's no obligation to do so, but it's certainly appreciated. Remember that you can put a high number in place of the page number in the url and if that page doesn't exist yet, NG will take you to the latest page, whatever it is.

So if you link to: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/4834 48/999
then anyone following that link will always see the latest page.

I don't understand what recommendations are all about!
As mentioned under this section in each list, 'You may make a recommendation if you reviewed 100% of the previous weeks requests and recommendations. It should be over 3 days old and have under 50 reviews.'

As long as your name is on the last 'All requests completed' list, feel free to recommend something you've enjoyed from the portal.

You could use this to let us know about something you think is specially awesome, yet overlooked. If there aren't many game or movie requests, maybe you could make a recommendation so we have something to review.

Does the Review Request Club review stuff for non-NG stuff?
Short answer: no.

Long answer: Milinko used to include youtube requests in the list of requests, but the introduction of a points system didn't leave room for such things. You can request reviews here, but some of us may not have accounts on Myspace/Youtube/whatever or may simply be disinclined to review things outside NG. It wouldn't get nearly as much attention compared to if it were a NG submission.

I'd suggest putting songs on the AP, then making a request that way. It lets us give feedback whilst staying on our favourite site. ;-)

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Plaintext version here. If a new page hase begun and this info has not been posted yet, please copy the text in the link above and post it, thus keeping this info at the top of each page.

At 9/8/08 02:00 PM, Haggard wrote:

At 9/8/08 12:47 PM, Shanus wrote: Well if you could do it it would be greatly appreciated. As I don't have the datasheets :P

Ok, the next update will come tomorrow then. It's a bit late here already. ^^

I may do the reviews then, well we'll see :P

Who's gonna do the Thursday list when Bez leaves??

I can do that. Shouldn't take too long.

That would be cool. I have no qualms with that.

But if anyone else wanna take some responsibility etc. Input is always welcome :P

Sorry guys, I have been really busy lately, and I don't think I have the time top tally up the points for the club anymore :( Is it ok if I review the things on the list, put the Review request club thingo as a signoff but not tally my points? I will be invisble. Its a win-win situation.

Requests list as posted by Bezman on page 184 (those requests should be done until Sunday, the 14th):
If your request does not appear on the list below, you probably made your request between late Thursday and now. Your request will be added to the next list on Thursday.

General Rules for Requesters:
If you are planning on requesting reviews, please:
- Post a direct link to the submission(s) you want reviewed.
- Make no more than 3 requests within one week.
- Respond to reviews.
- Be patient. Due to the points system, you may not see reviews until up to two weeks after you request.
- Do NOT request without posting a link.
- Do NOT just say "Review everything" or just link to your profile.
- Do NOT request reviews for the same submission more than once.

General Rules for New Reviewers:
If you are planning on completing requests, please do the following:
- Post in this thread to let us know you plan on reviewing.
- Understand the points system and keep track of your own score. You will only be added to the list if you post your own score after the first week

Points:
**Please also keep track of your own points. If you see something missing, there is probably a mistake**
**To be on the list, you must make at least one review, posters only will not be counted**
5 points for a review on a requested movie/game
7 points for a review on a requested audio
+1 point for putting "Review Request Club" at the bottom of a requested review
NOTE: From now on you won't get any points for putting abbreviations like "RRC" at the bottom of a review
3 points for posting at least once throughout the week
5 points for referring a new member (must mention you in first post)
7 points for reviewing all requests for that week

Movie Requests:(5)
A new clock! by Joao (sistem69)
Gein kills the kk by Gein
The Dropping Egg Collab by Argentin
Ode to Elevator Music by Trevor Wiles (SprintT)
Newgrounds Intro Collab by fish1892

Game Requests:(4)
NG Character Quiz by yoshi77777
GTFTN1 - Scanlines by Marsupial
Clyde's Revenge! by Zach (newnerdproductionsTM)
Dress Our King! by ThaDj

Audio Requests:(14)
The First Sunrise Original Mix by FlamingFirebolt
stories of autumn by Stephan (riemannSum)
p4c-I'llBeLovin[LostSoul rmx] by p4c
<==Cry Out In Terror==> by DjCompass
Hacsev Jazz by Hacsev
Proclamation for two clarinets by El-Scotto1
Bagatelle for two Clarinets by El-Scotto1
8-biterror by cpukilla101
Paff! by Fredrik Svensson (svere)
Sleep In Your Tomb by The Bad Man (Bad-Man-Incorporated) (reccommended by Corky52)
Wats goin on? by Your Master (KlanMaster911)
Last Impression by svinepels
==(Deep Blue Clouds)== by SBB
Sorrow Knows Many Names by MusicMyOxygen

Spotlighted Recommendations: none
You get points for reviewing recommendations as if they were requests.
You may make a recommendation if you reviewed 100% of the previous weeks requests and recommendations. It should be over 3 days old and have under 50 reviews.

Points | Stats | % rate | weekly | user
1. 6978 | 928/1006 | 092,25 | 12/13 | Coop83
2. 5064 | 665/0666 | 099,85 | 13/13 | Haggard
3. 3368 | 494/1032 | 047,87 | 00/13 | Milinko959
4. 3364 | 448/0662 | 067,67 | 01/13 | Shanus
5. 2618 | 373/1032 | 036,14 | 06/13 | Bezman
6. 2144 | 282/0312 | 090,38 | 01/13 | phantomlassuk
7. 1638 | 212/0212 | 100,00 | 11/11 | Corky52
8. 1117 | 167/0323 | 051,70 | 09/13 | shadowchaotailsevil3
9. 1045 | 136/0550 | 024,73 | 00/11 | WritersBlock *
10. 577 | 078/0120 | 065,00 | 00/13 | UnknownFear **
11. 514 | 056/0256 | 021,88 | 00/13 | HeavyTank ***
12. 488 | 068/0090 | 075,56 | 13/13 | X3cutioner
13. 417 | 056/0056 | 100,00 | 13/13 | perfect-insanity
14. 413 | 055/0055 | 100,00 | 13/13 | xIDoL
16. 281 | 037/0037 | 100,00 | 13/13 | Marsupial
15. 250 | 034/0119 | 028,57 | 00/13 | Satoris ***
17. 015 | 002/0013 | 015,38 | 02/13 | Mrputter

The stars indicate for how long the user has been inactive in this club. "Inactive" means, that user hasn't gained any points by reviewing OR by posting.

*: User has been inactive last week
**: User has been inactive for the last two weeks
***: User has been inactive for the last three weeks
****: User has been inactive for the last four weeks

If you are inactive for more than three weeks AND if your completion rate falls below 20%, OR if you are inactive for more than four weeks you are excluded from the list. You may rejoin this club, but your points will be lost.

Requests this week: 13
Total all time: 1032
Review this Week: 107
Average per member: 5,94
Average per request: 8,23

New To the List:
MrPutter

Leaving the List :( :
none

All Requests Completed:
Haggard, Corky52, X3cutioner, perfect-insanity, xIDoL, Marsupial

Additional Comments:

At 9/7/08 03:02 PM, Bezman wrote: I had no clue what a 'wetpaint wiki site' is but am checking it out now.
http://newgroundsrrc.wetpaint.com

At 9/8/08 12:24 PM, svinepels wrote: oops.. wrong link. I meant http://www.newgroundsrrc.wetpaint.com
Sorry!

Looks nice, but doesn't work properly with Opera (the edit bar looks very weird). And the IE crashed on me, when I tried to edit something. And I'm NOT going to try if Firefox works for me.
So I can't put this update on there, as I can't edit the page.

At 9/7/08 02:45 PM, X3cutioner wrote: also i'm sorry to say this but i wont be submitting points anymore, because although it's fun fact is what with some of you ranting on about quality of reviewing.
well honestly you kinda sucked the fun right out of it.
telling me what to do doesn't work for me.

Nobody expects you to write a whole book as a review, but we do expect our members to write more than a one line long review. It's the quality that counts here, not the quantity.

At 9/9/08 12:51 AM, xIDoL wrote: Is it ok if I review the things on the list, put the Review request club thingo as a signoff but not tally my points?

Yes, that's perfectly fine.

Also, here's the datasheet, Shanus. ;)

At 9/9/08 03:51 AM, Haggard wrote: Points | Stats | % rate | weekly | user
1. 6978 | 928/1006 | 092,25 | 12/13 | Coop83
2. 5064 | 665/0666 | 099,85 | 13/13 | Haggard

Okay, I'll hold my hands up because I missed a review, but I could have sworn that I'd reviewed that particular request. I remember listening to it and describing all of the emotions that it provoked. I just can't have hit the submit button, but that in itself is quite strange.

Still, I've got 23 reviews to make this week and I'm not going to the pub this Sunday, so there's plenty of time to deal with the likes of them >:)

At 9/9/08 03:51 AM, Haggard wrote:

At 9/9/08 12:51 AM, xIDoL wrote: Is it ok if I review the things on the list, put the Review request club thingo as a signoff but not tally my points?

Yes, that's perfectly fine.

Thank you :P

Thanks for the update Haggard.

At 9/9/08 03:51 AM, Haggard wrote:

Movie Requests:(5)

I don't ever see too many more then 5 requests, but that's just about where I like to have them.

Game Requests:(4)
NG Character Quiz by yoshi77777

Another one that I can't do myself because I am coed on. Oh well. You guys should actually be getting some more for me. I had one submitted not too long ago, but I don't think it's review material for you guys.

Audio Requests:(14)

So after this week I will be close to 300 audio reviews. If I had more time I would of probably had them awhile ago, but slow and steady wins the race.

6. 2144 | 282/0312 | 090,38 | 01/13 | phantomlassuk

With her not reviewing everything anymore this may be easy to catch, but if she leaves completely it will be a shame because she wrote great reviews.

7. 1638 | 212/0212 | 100,00 | 11/11 | Corky52

There isn't just as much competition in this list as there are others. We need some hard core reviewers and some people who are committed. :(

New To the List:
MrPutter

Hello, you have great reviews. Do you have any friends that would like to join?

All Requests Completed:
Haggard, Corky52, X3cutioner, perfect-insanity, xIDoL, Marsupial

After my short little rant, which I felt like an asshole after, some reviews have actually picked up and are a lot better. Good job to everyone getting all the reviews done.

Looks nice, but doesn't work properly with Opera (the edit bar looks very weird). And the IE crashed on me, when I tried to edit something. And I'm NOT going to try if Firefox works for me.
So I can't put this update on there, as I can't edit the page.

I use Firefox and it's the best browser for Wetpaint sites. I've experienced some crashes with IE but over all it works good. Never tried opera, and with safari some of the editing possibilities are missing. I suggest that you use Firefox when editing the site. It is the best browser right?? Better than IE at least........

Sorry for sounding ignorant, but why do I only have 15 points?

At 9/9/08 08:30 AM, svinepels wrote:

Looks nice, but doesn't work properly with Opera (the edit bar looks very weird). And the IE crashed on me, when I tried to edit something. And I'm NOT going to try if Firefox works for me.
So I can't put this update on there, as I can't edit the page.

I use Firefox and it's the best browser for Wetpaint sites. I've experienced some crashes with IE but over all it works good. Never tried opera, and with safari some of the editing possibilities are missing. I suggest that you use Firefox when editing the site. It is the best browser right?? Better than IE at least........

Well, Opera is the best browser, but let's not start a browser war here. ;)
You're right that FF is A LOT better than the IE, but usually I'll try IE first when Opera doesn't suceed. First of all, most people that code websites will only check if their site works in IE and second, I can easily start it with the command "iexplore". To start Firefox I have to browse through the depths of my program folder. ^^
I didn't felt like trying FF with Wetpaint when two browsers didn't work.

At 9/9/08 01:08 PM, Mrputter wrote: Sorry for sounding ignorant, but why do I only have 15 points?

Because I only found two reviews from you. Maybe you reviewed the "wrong" list. The update was based upon the list found on page 183. The preview list on page 184 is for the next update. Maybe you reviewed the request on that list?

At 9/9/08 03:51 AM, Haggard wrote: Review this Week: 107
Average per member: 5,94
Average per request: 8,23

A respectable review/request stat.

Thanks for the update, Haggard!

Also - welcome back Shanus. :-)

At 9/8/08 02:00 PM, Haggard wrote:

At 9/8/08 12:47 PM, Shanus wrote: Who's gonna do the Thursday list when Bez leaves??

I can do that. Shouldn't take too long.

Perfect Insanity had volunteered and I've gotten a PM stating that he's still willing.

As far as I know, that's still the plan.

At 9/9/08 08:30 AM, svinepels wrote:

Looks nice, but doesn't work properly with Opera (the edit bar looks very weird). And the IE crashed on me, when I tried to edit something. And I'm NOT going to try if Firefox works for me.
So I can't put this update on there, as I can't edit the page.

I use Firefox and it's the best browser for Wetpaint sites. I've experienced some crashes with IE but over all it works good. Never tried opera, and with safari some of the editing possibilities are missing. I suggest that you use Firefox when editing the site. It is the best browser right?? Better than IE at least........

I was able to edit stuff on Firefox on OSX. What've you got against it, Haggard?

I personally don't see a reason to duplicate the lists on that site, unless folk start checking there rather than looking back a page.

I liked the idea of having a place for folk to easily work on a set of 'FAQs' or add on info if some is needed.

I think it'd be cool to keep records of the co-op stats (reviews/submission each week would be interesting and meaningful, imo) but as for the weekly updates, I'm not sure there's any benefit to posting them there.