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Response to Review Request Club 2008-08-30 20:40:14


New song.
<==Cry Out In Terror==>
Thanks you all again.


Review Request Club

Join Us!!! Or not...

Response to Review Request Club 2008-08-30 21:22:14


44 points so far (all the audio requests. It'll take me a while to get into the habit of tagging <-RRC-> to the bottom of my reviews...)
The first audio link on the wednesday list didn't work.


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Response to Review Request Club 2008-08-30 22:23:12


At 8/30/08 09:22 PM, DjCompass wrote: 44 points so far (all the audio requests. It'll take me a while to get into the habit of tagging <-RRC-> to the bottom of my reviews...)
The first audio link on the wednesday list didn't work.

You have to write 'Review Request Club' instead of RRC. New rule...

Response to Review Request Club 2008-08-31 08:32:55


At 8/30/08 05:45 PM, Shadow-1409 wrote:
At 8/30/08 05:23 PM, X3cutioner wrote: i dont get this system,
You'll figure it out eventually. ;]

i still don't get it dude.. =(
i bet all the reviews i've done this week still won't account for 100%.
oh well to be fair i'm only doing it for them, not for the points..
even though it would be nice to get 100% at least once.
but i'd have to figure this system out first.

Response to Review Request Club 2008-08-31 08:47:10


Movie Request For: Dropping Egg Collab, thanks, mwmike


Formerly known as mwmike | I'm moderately active on last.fm | Before you post, read these. Please.

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Response to Review Request Club 2008-08-31 10:39:23


Song Request For: Hacsev Jazz

Thanks!

$$$ | Strawberry Dodge | Abusive Reviews! | Sig by TheDingo

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Response to Review Request Club 2008-08-31 12:49:14


Movie review: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/45 7718
Please and TY


<"Clusterfuck of ideas heading nowhere... " Writersblock

Response to Review Request Club 2008-08-31 13:13:04


Hello, I need some reviews!

I have two pieces that I would like reviews on, but I don't expect everyone to review both of them. Just review one of them, if you'd like. They are 1 minute long clarinet duets, so it shouldn't take too much time. Thanks!

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1 67502
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1 67178

Response to Review Request Club 2008-08-31 14:44:30


At 8/30/08 08:39 PM, xIDoL wrote: Its Sunday now :P Are you going to tally the points? Or isn't it Sunday for you guys?

I think the update is more often than not done on a Monday now. I'm quite glad, to be honest, as I can spend my time over the weekend to catch up and get the reviews done.


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Response to Review Request Club 2008-08-31 16:24:57


3 posting
14 audio 14 x 8 = 112
11 flash 11 x 6 = 66
112 + 66 + = 178
178 + 215 = 393
Total: 393
i probably haven't done 100% though i think i have, but you should know cause you check through and you know of reviews pushed to next week's list and what not..
i hope you still tally it all up since i don't know what's on what list. but i have reviewed it...

Response to Review Request Club 2008-08-31 20:11:13


http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1 69254 I'd like to have my song reviewed

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-01 00:06:04


Sorry that I didn't add up all of the total like I usually do, but I need to get to bed because I have to wake up early to go to college tomorrow. I am by the way done though and I have completed all of the requests for this week. Again, sorry for not adding up my totals for you guys like usual.

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-01 08:25:37


Good day members of the Review Request Club :).
Is it at all possible for me to become a member?

I have a fair number of reviews, of which many are well thought out (especially in the games section).

Thank you for reading ;).

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-01 09:28:49


At 9/1/08 09:25 AM, Haggard wrote: Requests this week: 25
Total all time: 1019
Review this Week: 148
Average per member: 9,25
Average per request: 5,92

Damn, I forgot to adjust the forumla again. So the correct stats are:

Requests this week: 25
Total all time: 1019
Review this Week: 197
Average per member: 12,31
Average per request: 7,88


Surf Nazis must die! || Wi/Ht? #38

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-01 10:03:05


At 9/1/08 09:25 AM, Haggard wrote: Movie Requests:(4)
The Last Hour: Chapter 8 by The Final Hour (Jaiba)
The Last Hour: Chapter 9 by The Final Hour (Jaiba)
Wegra Adventure 4 by Michael (wegra2007)
The Last Hour: Chapter 10 by The Final Hour (Jaiba)

Game Requests:(2)
Newgrounds Helpful Guide by yoshi77777 & Corey Fromille (Corky52)
How to help Newgrounds by RohantheBarbarian

Audio Requests:(8)
NES Metal by Jeffaro
The Death of Hank by
WritersBlock
rock across the town by mikkim
bashunter song loop by mikkim
Digital High by Bob (Bob-Music)
Art by Sam C (BreakingFaces)
Somewhere in Nevada by WritersBlock
<--An Angry Afterlife--> by DjCompass

nope must have done them from before..
but glad you did tally it up, thank you.

Points | Stats | % rate | weekly | user
11. 514 | 056/0243 | 023,05 | 00/25 | HeavyTank **
12. 399 | 055/0077 | 071,43 | 25/25 | X3cutioner
13. 319 | 043/0043 | 100,00 | 25/25 | perfect-insanity

if HeavyTank takes another week off, it would be helpful, but looks as if perfect-insanity is chasing me.
You Shall Not Surpass Me..! =)

New To the List:
Marsupial

hello

Leaving the List :( :
aldlv, Gu-rrilla

goodbye

All Requests Completed:
Coop83, Haggard, Corky52, X3cutioner, perfect-insanity, xIDoL, Marsupial

ooooh yeaaaa 100% i knew i'd get it eventually ;)

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-01 11:49:15


Okay, I'm going to give this points system a go then.

I have just reviewed:
How to help Newgrounds.
and
Newgrounds Helpful guide.

I added the "Review Request Club" at the end of each review as well, so that makes 12 points.

I have also posted in this club, which adds an extra 3 points, making the total 15 points.

Now, do I have to post my final number of points before the everyone's scores are recorded (which is on Sunday/Monday)?

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-01 13:13:10


At 9/1/08 11:49 AM, Mrputter wrote: Now, do I have to post my final number of points before the everyone's scores are recorded (which is on Sunday/Monday)?

That's right. ;)


Surf Nazis must die! || Wi/Ht? #38

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-01 16:10:46


You guys rule!
Paff!
also, you win if you've ever listened to Steve Vai before listening to that.


Kirlian Choices

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Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-01 22:14:06


Sup homez can I enter this treehouse club 8)


www.macjams.com/artist/kgz (Download links)

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-02 01:54:30


At 9/1/08 09:25 AM, Haggard wrote: Leaving the List :( :
aldlv, Gu-rrilla

Can't blame you, I've been having some tough issues to deal with. I was wondering if you guys could take me back. I would like to re-apply to the Review Request Club.

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-02 03:36:34


At 9/1/08 09:25 AM, Haggard wrote: Points | Stats | % rate | weekly | user
1. 6891 | 916/0993 | 092,25 | 25/25 | Coop83
2. 4962 | 652/0653 | 099,85 | 25/25 | Haggard

Ah, another good week for the RRC :) Thanks for the update, Haggard.

Not too many requests, so it should be easy enough to get 100% this time around.

At 8/30/08 06:26 PM, milinko959 wrote: Hey you guys kept this alive! Good job :DD
Hey, thanks for dropping by! Feel like reviewing again? :D

That would be nice to see, considering I jinxed his presence on NG by suggesting that he was going to become only the third user to 10,000 Reviews :P


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Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-02 07:20:09


At 9/1/08 09:25 AM, Haggard wrote: Requests list as posted by Bezman on page 182 (those requests should be done until Sunday, the 7th):
If your request does not appear on the list below, you probably made your request between late Thursday and now. Your request will be added to the next list on Thursday.

General Rules for Requesters:
If you are planning on requesting reviews, please:
- Post a direct link to the submission(s) you want reviewed.
- Make no more than 3 requests within one week.
- Respond to reviews.
- Be patient. Due to the points system, you may not see reviews until up to two weeks after you request.
- Do NOT request without posting a link.
- Do NOT just say "Review everything" or just link to your profile.
- Do NOT request reviews for the same submission more than once.

General Rules for New Reviewers:
If you are planning on completing requests, please do the following:
- Post in this thread to let us know you plan on reviewing.
- Understand the points system and keep track of your own score. You will only be added to the list if you post your own score after the first week

Points:
**Please also keep track of your own points. If you see something missing, there is probably a mistake**
**To be on the list, you must make at least one review, posters only will not be counted**
5 points for a review on a requested movie/game
7 points for a review on a requested audio
+1 point for putting "Review Request Club" at the bottom of a requested review
NOTE: From now on you won't get any points for putting abbreviations like "RRC" at the bottom of a review, but only for "Review Request Club"

I am going to have trouble remembering this :P

3 points for posting at least once throughout the week
5 points for referring a new member (must mention you in first post)
7 points for reviewing all requests for that week

Movie Requests:(4)
The Last Hour: Chapter 8 by The Final Hour (Jaiba)
The Last Hour: Chapter 9 by The Final Hour (Jaiba)
Wegra Adventure 4 by Michael (wegra2007)
The Last Hour: Chapter 10 by The Final Hour (Jaiba)

I love Reviewing movies :P

Game Requests:(2)
Newgrounds Helpful Guide by yoshi77777 & Corey Fromille (Corky52)
How to help Newgrounds by RohantheBarbarian

But I love reviewing games more O.o Not too many this week which is a bit of a let down :P

Audio Requests:(8)
NES Metal by Jeffaro
The Death of Hank by
WritersBlock
rock across the town by mikkim
bashunter song loop by mikkim
Digital High by Bob (Bob-Music)
Art by Sam C (BreakingFaces)
Somewhere in Nevada by WritersBlock
<--An Angry Afterlife--> by DjCompass

Oh god! The dreaded Audio! Not too many this week which is good :P

12. 399 | 055/0077 | 071,43 | 25/25 | X3cutioner
13. 319 | 043/0043 | 100,00 | 25/25 | perfect-insanity
14. 312 | 042/0042 | 100,00 | 24/24 | xIDoL

Hmm, I'm just trailing here, I would be closer to P-I but I couldn't review my own submission :)


Requests this week: 25
Total all time: 1019
Review this Week: 148
Average per member: 9,25
Average per request: 5,92

Easy 100% this week yay!

New To the List:
Marsupial

Welcome


Leaving the List :( :
aldlv, Gu-rrilla

Bye

All Requests Completed:
Coop83, Haggard, Corky52, X3cutioner, perfect-insanity, xIDoL, Marsupial

I must keep this 100% streak going *determined*

Ah yes, I will get around to reviewing later, I am playing Castle Crashers!

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-02 08:16:42


At 9/1/08 09:25 AM, Haggard wrote:

Thanks for the update. I can't believe I didn't respond to it. Oh well, I got to it now.

Movie Requests:(4)
The Last Hour: Chapter 8 by The Final Hour (Jaiba)
The Last Hour: Chapter 9 by The Final Hour (Jaiba)
Wegra Adventure 4 by Michael (wegra2007)
The Last Hour: Chapter 10 by The Final Hour (Jaiba)

I still think The Last Hour submissions were some kind of joke. I really had no clue what was going on the entire time and the animation jumped back and forth from decent to bad and then even to good. Something was fishy with those. Oh well, I managed to get the movie reviews done so I don't have much more to do.


Game Requests:(2)
Newgrounds Helpful Guide by yoshi77777 & Corey Fromille (Corky52)
How to help Newgrounds by RohantheBarbarian

Well, the links are messed up, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to go and find the right link. If you want to find it easier just go to my flashes and they will both be there. On that note, I am coed on both of these so I can't review these.


Audio Requests:(8)
NES Metal by Jeffaro
The Death of Hank by
WritersBlock
rock across the town by mikkim
bashunter song loop by mikkim
Digital High by Bob (Bob-Music)
Art by Sam C (BreakingFaces)
Somewhere in Nevada by WritersBlock
<--An Angry Afterlife--> by DjCompass

Overall, this is a smaller list then usual. It's nice to have a week or so off from writing a bunch of reviews. I haven't gotten to these so I'm going to try and get them finished today if I'm lucky enough.


Spotlighted Recommendations: none
You get points for reviewing recommendations as if they were requests.
You may make a recommendation if you reviewed 100% of the previous weeks requests and recommendations. It should be over 3 days old and have under 50 reviews.

I would like to make a spotlight recommendation for the next list. I would like you guys to check out Sleep In Your Tomb. Aka, Corky52's Theme Song with vocals. :)


Points | Stats | % rate | weekly | user
6. 2135 | 281/0299 | 093,98 | 12/25 | phantomlassuk

I'm still scraping my way out to catch up. Maybe someday I can catch up, but looks like I may be sticking right in my spot for awhile.

7. 1548 | 201/0201 | 100,00 | 24/24 | Corky52

I'm still 100 percent. It's been quite a task for me, but I don't think I would review if it wasn't for this club.

8. 1059 | 158/0310 | 050,97 | 11/25 | shadowchaotailsevil3

I'm quite far ahead to feel safe. Catch me if you can though. ;)


Requests this week: 25
Total all time: 1019

There we are, over 1,000. On to the next 1,000 I guess.

Review this Week: 148
Average per member: 9,25
Average per request: 5,92

New To the List:
Marsupial

Welcome to the club.


Leaving the List :( :
aldlv, Gu-rrilla

Bye guys.


All Requests Completed:
Coop83, Haggard, Corky52, X3cutioner, perfect-insanity, xIDoL, Marsupial

Hm, still with the elite, but I'm concerned about some of your guys reviews. This isn't fucking youtube, please actually review the submissions. Stop this small commenting stuff it's annoying. Anyone could get all reviews done if you only right a couple of lines. I think there should be some sort of rules where you have to have over 3 maybe even 5 lines in your reviews not counting when you push enter.

At 8/28/08 12:30 PM, Shanus wrote: Laptop's finally back. Everything's working as was. So I'm back. Maybe not this weekend because I'm moving house but definitely after :D
Hi, welcome back! :)

Welcome. I hope you can start reviewing again. Even though you've missed most of the submissions that I request here. :(

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-02 10:15:59


CLUB INFO
...............................

General Rules for Requesters:
If you are planning on requesting reviews, please:
- Post a direct link to the submission(s) you want reviewed.
- Make no more than 3 requests within one week.
- Do us a favour and respond to our reviews.
- Be patient. Due to the points system, you may not see reviews until up to two weeks after you request.
- Do NOT request without posting a link.
- Do NOT just say "Review everything" or just link to your profile.
- Do NOT request reviews for the same submission more than once.

General Rules for New Reviewers:
If you are planning on completing requests, please do the following:
- Post in this thread to let us know you'd like to join.
- Understand the points system and keep track of your own score. You will only be added to the list if you post your own score within the first week.

Points:
**Please also keep track of your own points. If you see something missing, it's probably a mistake**
**To be on the list, you must make at least one review, posters only will not be counted**

5 points for a review on a requested movie/game
7 points for a review on a requested audio
+1 point for putting "Review Request Club" at the bottom of a requested review
3 points for posting at least once throughout the week
5 points for referring a new member (must mention you in first post)
7 points for reviewing all requests/recommendations for that week

Club updates
Each Sunday or Monday, Haggard or Shanus currently create a list of all the members, counting up their points, calculating various stats and posting a list of requested submissions. Assuming you review the submissions listed, you will get points for them on the following members' update, 6 or 7 days later.

On Thursday, Bezman currently creates a list of all requests and recommendations made up until then, since the previous thursday. This can be seen as a 'preview' of the list that will accompany the following members' update on Sunday/Monday. The points for these are tallied 10 days later.

Requests made between the 'preview list' and the 'members' update' carry over to the next preview list. So you will always have over 9 days to finish the reviews. (Feel free to review submissions as soon as they are requested!)

FAQ
Should we have a FAQ?
I don't know. It kinda seems like overkill.

Should I link to the club in my sig?
There's no obligation to do so, but it's certainly appreciated. Remember that you can put a high number in place of the page number in the url and if that page doesn't exist yet, NG will take you to the latest page, whatever it is.

So if you link to: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/4834 48/999
then anyone following that link will always see the latest page.

I don't understand what recommendations are all about!
As mentioned under this section in each list, 'You may make a recommendation if you reviewed 100% of the previous weeks requests and recommendations. It should be over 3 days old and have under 50 reviews.'

As long as your name is on the last 'All requests completed' list, feel free to recommend something you've enjoyed from the portal.

You could use this to let us know about something you think is specially awesome, yet overlooked. If there aren't many game or movie requests, maybe you could make a recommendation so we have something to review.
...............................

Plaintext version here. If a new page hase begun and this info has not been posted yet, please copy the text in the link above and post it, thus keeping this info at the top of each page.

At 9/1/08 10:14 PM, KgZ wrote: Sup homez can I enter this treehouse club 8)

Sure thing!

I checked your reviews and though short, you seem to have clear criticisms and praise to give, which is great.

I'd suggest that some, like your review for ' -HarDon-' should be lengthened to be more like your reviews for 'Atom Bomb--_--goa Trance" and ' Xtreme Wave {DJ S}', where you're more specific about WHY you like it and actually give constructive criicisms.

Review some of the stuff in Haggard's list on the previous page. Let us know on Sunday morning (or earlier) how many you reviewed and how many 'points' you garnered. Then Haggard will add you to the list next Monday.

Welcome to the club!

At 8/30/08 06:26 PM, milinko959 wrote: Hey you guys kept this alive! Good job :DD

Hey! You're alive! :-D

Weren't you gonna go to 10,000 exp before leaving?

At 8/30/08 05:49 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: Its been making me feel that the its more of a chore

Yeah ultimately, none of us are likely to get awards, make a living or radically improve our lives from reviewing. It should be just a fun thing to do.

I wonder how you others people get round this without buring out?. I really like to do next weeks list.

I personally don't have as good a 'record' as most other folk here. But I find that challenging myself to write a review within X minutes makes it more fun. For example, with a 2 minute song, I'll have normally already listened to it once or twice in the background. Then, when it comes to review, I challenge myself to write a review within three playthroughs - once to just listen and soak up the details, then 2 more loops to quickly type up my thoughts.

Having short time limits can make things more fun.

At 9/2/08 08:16 AM, Corky52 wrote:
All Requests Completed:
Coop83, Haggard, Corky52, X3cutioner, perfect-insanity, xIDoL, Marsupial
Hm, still with the elite, but I'm concerned about some of your guys reviews. This isn't fucking youtube, please actually review the submissions. Stop this small commenting stuff it's annoying. Anyone could get all reviews done if you only right a couple of lines. I think there should be some sort of rules where you have to have over 3 maybe even 5 lines in your reviews not counting when you push enter.

I'm in two minds about what you're saying. On the one hand - yeah, a more thorough review is far more useful to an author and when I submit flash, the thorough ones are worth multiple 'comment-style' ones as the former actually give me ideas of what would be useful to improve, what to keep doing etc.

On the other hand, a short review is far better than nothing - at least giving an opinion (and even a short comment can contain a bit of specific praise and some constructive criticism).

Personally, there have been times when I've watched (or played) something, felt like my review wouldn't be thorough enough if I wrote it then, decided to come back to it later and ended up writing nothing in the end.

That's probably the worst thing to do and lambasting people on general terms for writing shitty reviews just results in a bit of resentment and ill-feeling. And in the end, this shouldn't be a chore - just a bit of fun.

I'd say that anyone should be commended for completing all the reviews, no matter their quality. BUT if a review seems shitty to you, call it out. Maybe suggest ways to improve the review. Review the review - maybe give constructive feedback rather than just having a blanket call for folk to lengthen their work.

I think more discussions about what makes a good review etc. might help.

Sorry for the lack of a solid conclusion, but basically I feel like we should be willing to 'call out' specific people or reviews and still commend people for even writing however much they do.

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-02 15:58:59


At 9/2/08 10:15 AM, Bezman wrote:
At 9/2/08 08:16 AM, Corky52 wrote:
All Requests Completed:
Coop83, Haggard, Corky52, X3cutioner, perfect-insanity, xIDoL, Marsupial
Hm, still with the elite, but I'm concerned about some of your guys reviews. This isn't fucking youtube, please actually review the submissions. Stop this small commenting stuff it's annoying. Anyone could get all reviews done if you only right a couple of lines. I think there should be some sort of rules where you have to have over 3 maybe even 5 lines in your reviews not counting when you push enter.
I'm in two minds about what you're saying. On the one hand - yeah, a more thorough review is far more useful to an author and when I submit flash, the thorough ones are worth multiple 'comment-style' ones as the former actually give me ideas of what would be useful to improve, what to keep doing etc.

Quality, not quantity, correct?

I feel that those of us who complete all the reviews are the ones who actually care about the flash, rather than the numbers of reviews. Since I care more about the responses I gain than the actual numbers of reviews, I feel that I'm more likely to receive a response (Hopefully positive) from a well constructed and detailed review, than a quick one liner.

On the other hand, a short review is far better than nothing - at least giving an opinion (and even a short comment can contain a bit of specific praise and some constructive criticism).

Better than nothing, but even though I have never had a flash which has been reviewed, I would feel that feedback is more use as detailecd as possible, than a quick "LOL, that was some crazy shit" for example.

I'd say that anyone should be commended for completing all the reviews, no matter their quality. BUT if a review seems shitty to you, call it out. Maybe suggest ways to improve the review. Review the review - maybe give constructive feedback rather than just having a blanket call for folk to lengthen their work.

Sounds like a good idea - I wouldn't mind hearing feedback on my own reviews.

I think more discussions about what makes a good review etc. might help.

This would certainly help us to produce quality reviews that express a variety of opinions in a nicely detailed and well constructed manner.

Sorry for the lack of a solid conclusion, but basically I feel like we should be willing to 'call out' specific people or reviews and still commend people for even writing however much they do.

Sounds like the start of a plan, does anyone else have anything to add?


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Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-02 18:32:34


14 points for 2 audio submissions
+
5 points for 1 flash submission
+
2 points for sign "RRC" on 2 submissions
+
3 points for reviewing at least once last week

I've not been browsing here cause of my Internet, sorry guys :'(

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-02 19:29:37


At 9/2/08 06:32 PM, BlackPT wrote: 14 points for 2 audio submissions
+
5 points for 1 flash submission
+
2 points for sign "RRC" on 2 submissions
+
3 points for reviewing at least once last week

I've not been browsing here cause of my Internet, sorry guys :'(

The 3 submissions you reviewed are from the PREVIOUS list - you needed to post this info on Sunday or earlier to be added. The next members' update will involve the reviews for the stuff Haggard mentions on page 183.

And when tagging reviews, you need to add "Review Request Club" - not just 'RRC'. The former is searchable and could help spread the word but the latter isn't.

Your reviews seems like you've put in a little bit of effort so feel free to review this week's list and report back before sunday to be added this time around.

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-02 20:05:22


Yo.I got a new song that I need everyone to hear..

Its just so damn funny.If you liked my other works then this tops them all from a comedy standpoint.

Here it is.

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-03 11:28:05


I'd like more people to review my song. I feel it didn't get enough attention and it's one of my best. It has kind of an 8-bit feel, that's a part of my image. The length is pretty epic too.

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1 68277

Thanks!
- Svinepels

Response to Review Request Club 2008-09-03 18:49:39


I dont think i will be doing any more reviews, for a while. I have come to the decision to quit this club, for now. Ive not been happy for a while i been finding it to much ,and dont have the time at the moment. I really wanted to carry on but found the pressure ,i was putting myself under is to much. So you can remove me from the list?, but is it okay if i want to come back in the future again?. This sucks i loved the idea but i think i rather do reviews, in my own time. Thanks i liked writing reviews.


Archer I'm a good shot!