At 2/12/08 09:10 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote:

At 2/12/08 09:04 PM, DarkSoldier wrote: I personally think there should be Flash Mods: Mods who see if flash are spam or not and can remove them but only if they passed the Under Judgement rank.

Actually, seeing as how the flagged submissions haven't been cleared out since the redesign, that might be a good idea, Portal Mods.

You're right, Portal Mods wouldn't be a bad idea. Although, I've heard once that the Portal Mods idea had already been sugested, and not accepted. But that was about 6 months ago, now the Flash Portal seriously need moderators who control the spam Flashes that pass.

My criteria to judge who would be Portal Mods would be users with a good ammount of B/P, no spam-flashes (duh...) and constructive reviews. BBS posts wouldn't count, in my opinion.

Maybe change the job of the icon mods; they don't do all that much anyways, other than check out the icons.

I don't really agree with this. Sure, the icon mods should be the mods who work less here, but that wouldn't mean they have the capacity to be "Portal Mods". Also, some BBS mods are also icon mods, so that should make them work too much here.

...And allow whistle-blowing after it passes Judgment, for stolen or unsuitable Flash that pass.

This is a good idea. Maybye it could be a hidden option in the bottom of the page.

At 2/12/08 10:09 PM, RSQViper wrote: Ahhhhh, Clock Day. How I don't like that day any more after last year.

Luckily I only have one Clock Day in my history here.

Days later Tom toted about how many Flash were submitted, but when you look at cereal, Milfred and Fleek who submitted masses of Flash themselves... well, then it sucked.

Don't forget "cousin" and his huge family. He had about 10 alts, and submitted two flashes with each one of them. All of which passed.

In fact, there were some actual good Flash that day like any other Clock Day. Unfortunately they were buried in shit and a portal that was flying fast as hell.

But some of them were saved from been burried and got front-page. Fortunately.

Maybe this Clock Day will be some of these alt spammers last day when Wade catches them all and deletes, deletes, deletes. >=)

The problem is: will Wade be able to delete all of them? Maybye he can IP ban some of them before Clock Day starts.

They should rename it SPAM Day if this happens again because it's obviously how people see the day. You still see how bad it was if you weren't here for it, folks. It was many months ago and we're STILL pissed about it.

Why Clock Day exists? Why everything passes with a 3.60 score?

At 2/13/08 04:05 AM, BlueHippo wrote:

At 2/12/08 11:04 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: He's no Kitty. He's one of those cr0m wannabes whose "sites" all link to something called "xh4ck", whatever that is. I assume it has something to do with the Star Syndicate, in their days of abuse and exploitation.

Actually, he's neither. He's just a spammer like fleek and fr0k, just pretending to be a kitty krew member to piss them (and you) off. Remember stripes? (hi milfred!)

But most spammers are still related with KK members. They were worse last year.

Oh yeah... hello to you all as well... how's it going? I have been b/p'ing less and less and less every day :( I saw my name was taken off the list, blah... yet DLT was allowed to stay? Damn that c&c whore.. oh well.

Yeah, Sterockicy did a bit of a clean in the rosters. Speaking of which, where are the rosters? He said that about in two weeks he would post the due to school. Well, maybye he posts them next week.

Oh well, hope you guys are enjoying blamming those shoeeee movies, getting some free blam points or something. Keep those portals clean :)

We try as hard as we can to make the Flash Portal a better place. However...

Fleek also made a sproof from the Adolf Hitler series. When is this madness of the original series' rip offs will end?! There are about five of them already!.

At 2/13/08 11:11 AM, DarkSoldier wrote: 146 B/P points away from my former badge!

how many times have i said "Former Badge"?

About two times, but that's normal. I also got a bit anxious when I was close on becoming a Sergeant.

Anyways back to portal!

I'm coming along!

*Salutes*

At 2/13/08 11:55 AM, Sir-Nuts wrote:

At 2/12/08 10:09 PM, RSQViper wrote: They should rename it SPAM Day if this happens again because it's obviously how people see the day. You still see how bad it was if you weren't here for it, folks. It was many months ago and we're STILL pissed about it.

Why Clock Day exists? Why everything passes with a 3.60 score?

It's supposed to be in celebration of one of the most famous groups on Newgrounds. Of course, thats' out of the non-spamming group. And usually, not very many flashes get a 3.60; they used to get average scores, except for the not as good flashes (those would pass, but with the minimum).

Fleek also made a sproof from the Adolf Hitler series. When is this madness of the original series' rip offs will end?! There are about five of them already!.

There's a new one that just came out. This is about Morgan Freeman capturing the capturers of the Pokemon . Now it's just getting obnoxious. Well, more than usual.

*Salutes*

*Salutes*

At 2/13/08 05:00 PM, TheThing wrote:

Fleek also made a sproof from the Adolf Hitler series. When is this madness of the original series' rip offs will end?! There are about five of them already!.

There's a new one that just came out. This is about Morgan Freeman capturing the capturers of the Pokemon . Now it's just getting obnoxious. Well, more than usual.

It was OK when it was just AfroUnderscoreStud and Hitler... I wasn't even going to complain when Elite-Sniper got in on the action with Stalin... But when Mao, Ice Cube, Tom Fulp, and now Morgan Freeman get involved... Pretty soon, if this keeps up, the Portal will be covered in knockoffs! Well, maybe not. But none of the knockoffs are any good, even when compared to the original... I mean, let's compare the Ice Cube ones (by JamesOnNoGrace), the Tom Fulp ones (by yoshi77777), and AfroUnderscoreStud's originals.

PICTURE:
AfroUnderscoreStud: Photoshops Adolf Hitler with the qualities of the Pokémon.
yoshi77777: MS Paints Tom Fulp's profile pic (badly) with some of the qualities of the Pokémon
JamesOnNoGrace: Neglects to so much as alter Ice Cube's picture in any way.

MUSIC:
AfroUnderscoreStud: A selection of music from his collection. Usually fits the Pokémon's character.
yoshi77777: A selection of music from the Audio Portal. Doesn't always quite fit the Pokémon as well as Afro's
JamesOnNoGrace: The same David Hasselhoff song every time.

BACKGROUND:
AfroUnderscoreStud: A new, fitting background each time, drawn from real life and fitting the appearance and location of the Pokémon.
yoshi77777: Sorta the same as Afro does.
JamesOnNoGrace: No background.

It's clear by this comparison that the knockoffs are inferior to the original.

At 2/13/08 11:55 AM, Sir-Nuts wrote: You're right, Portal Mods wouldn't be a bad idea. Although, I've heard once that the Portal Mods idea had already been suggested, and not accepted. But that was about 6 months ago, now the Flash Portal seriously need moderators who control the spam Flashes that pass.

I do like the idea of Portal Mods as I brought it up months ago in this club. However to use them properly the rules of the portal need to be more clear and somewhat more restrictive to include SPAM Flash as a whistle option.

Also, I feel that Flash should remain able to be whistled until the 2,000 views where an artist can only make changes to it with approval. However, the difference would be that after a Flash passes thru the portal, the whistle does not remove it from the system and people can still watch it. All it would do is raise a flag on something that only a Portal Mod or Admin could see. Once that flag is cleared if the Flash is deemed worthy then the whistle option removes itself unless the Flash changes again before 2,000 views.

At 2/13/08 06:00 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: It's clear by this comparison that the knockoffs are inferior to the original.

Here's one for ya'.

The original sucks balls and I'd love if it were never made again. The fact he lists so many co-authors AFTER it passes the portal since it would not pass with them attached is despicable. They need to make it so you can't add co-authors without approval since people are side-stepping the higher score threshold for more co-authors.

The crap he makes is spam. (same opening, same opening music and one picture that is different between them all. SPAM.)

At 2/13/08 05:00 PM, TheThing wrote:

At 2/13/08 11:55 AM, Sir-Nuts wrote: Why Clock Day exists? Why everything passes with a 3.60 score?

It's supposed to be in celebration of one of the most famous groups on Newgrounds. Of course, thats' out of the non-spamming group. And usually, not very many flashes get a 3.60; they used to get average scores, except for the not as good flashes (those would pass, but with the minimum).

I know it is supposed to celebrate the Clock Crew, I just don't know who created it. Did Tom made a post about it at its first edition, oficialising it?

About the scores, when I came to Newgrounds on the clock day last year, almost everything had a "blue" score. I didn't understood it, but I got used with everything passing that day. I didn't knew that clock day was that ''spamy'', I just though it would be a day like no other here. I was wrong. Very wrong.

Fleek also made a sproof from the Adolf Hitler series. When is this madness of the original series' rip offs will end?! There are about five of them already!.

There's a new one that just came out. This is about Morgan Freeman capturing the capturers of the Pokemon . Now it's just getting obnoxious. Well, more than usual.

There's even a second episode of it. I don' get why so many people made a series out of it. Nor why they pass. Some of them are very crappy, it annoys me when I see a new one.

At 2/13/08 06:00 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote:

It was OK when it was just AfroUnderscoreStud and Hitler... I wasn't even going to complain when Elite-Sniper got in on the action with Stalin... But when Mao, Ice Cube, Tom Fulp, and now Morgan Freeman get involved... Pretty soon, if this keeps up, the Portal will be covered in knockoffs!

The original one by Afro_Stud is ok. The song he uses are nice, they match with the Pokemon (as you said). Once, when he ''caught'' a Mankey, it was playing Monkey Man by Reel Big Fish. I laughed at it, he's very original when it comes to the soundtrack.

I also liked the Stalin one, but when they re-submitted it thrice after it got blammed, I just started being more harsh on it. And after all those sproofs came in, I completely lost my respect for it, since they started the idea of copying the original series.

Now there are about five of them (whithout counting the one episode only by Bahamut, which is preety funny). But I won't count the spacial episodes that came by the original creators.

So the conclusion is: the Flash Portal is already flooded by spin-offs.

It's clear by this comparison that the knockoffs are inferior to the original.

Very inferior. It's not their creation, they didn'have the original concept of it.

At 2/13/08 07:00 PM, RSQViper wrote:

At 2/13/08 06:00 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: It's clear by this comparison that the knockoffs are inferior to the original.

Here's one for ya'.

The original sucks balls and I'd love if it were never made again. The fact he lists so many co-authors AFTER it passes the portal since it would not pass with them attached is despicable. They need to make it so you can't add co-authors without approval since people are side-stepping the higher score threshold for more co-authors.

I never said (at least here) that I really liked the originals, although I do give them 2s (or even 3s) sometimes, just for a few free protects (although the amount I've 2'd and 3'd so far is nothing compared to the 0s I hand out on a daily basis). Hell, they're just +1 Flash Count statwhoring, and if there was any chance of getting them Blammed, I'd vote 0 every single time. There's too many save-happy statwhores in the Portal though, and they don't get Blammed, so I look the other way. It's when the spinoffs start clogging the Portal, giving everyone +1s, and those spinoffs make the originals (themselves low-quality shit) look like Waterlollies, that I get pissed off.

The crap he makes is spam. (same opening, same opening music and one picture that is different between them all. SPAM.)

True. It's just like spamming the Forums though, not the trolling kind of spam Fleek submits. It's all for +1s...

If any sort of post-judgment whistling is allowed, it needs to work differently than normal whistling---not pulling the flash off of the Portal. Such an option would result in dickheads mass-whistling perfectly legit flashes, as well as uninformed newbies whistling their idea of 'spam'.

A post-judgment whistle could let the flash stay, but would bring the flash up on a list for a Portal Mod to check out. They could approve or delete the flash, and possibly block those whistling something obviously legit (like an illwillpress flash, which would likely be one of the first targets of abusing the feature). Blocking could only apply to post-judgment whistling, and for either a set amount of time or permanently.

Another anti-abuse feature could be making it possible to whistle a flash post-judgment only during its first week on the Portal, so we don't have morons going through the archives and picking off anything they wish.

ANOTHER possible feature would be allowing this as a relatively low-level secret---potential solutions including attaching it to EXP, where it would be unlocked like a normal secret (low enough for legit users to earn in a few months, high enough to make it a pain for people to alt-farm accounts), or attaching it to Whistle level---silver or higher, maybe.

I'm not sure if a Portal Mod should be able to pull and delete flashes on their own; that seems like too much power for one person (admin-power, in fact).

There are LOTS of possibilities in implementing Portal Mods, and lots of ways to prevent it from being abused. I hope to see Portal Mods someday---I think quite a few EGB members would make good judges of what is and is not abuse---in some form or fashion.

Hell, at the very least, they could sort through the queue of normally-flagged flashes, so Wade doesn't have to look through them all himself or purge everything in one blast.

At this rate, the knockoffs may likely include Norwood as well. Anyway I have another confession, I knew someone who took VGH and that's why he hasn't update the list anymore on 51+ b/p thread.

At 2/13/08 07:42 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: If any sort of post-judgment whistling is allowed, it needs to work differently than normal whistling---not pulling the flash off of the Portal. Such an option would result in dickheads mass-whistling perfectly legit flashes, as well as uninformed newbies whistling their idea of 'spam'.

A post-judgment whistle could let the flash stay, but would bring the flash up on a list for a Portal Mod to check out. They could approve or delete the flash, and possibly block those whistling something obviously legit (like an illwillpress flash, which would likely be one of the first targets of abusing the feature). Blocking could only apply to post-judgment whistling, and for either a set amount of time or permanently.

Or maybe huge losses (the equivalent of 15 abusive reviews or so) in whistle points would work, before blocking. Just like review mods sometimes tell us down at Rage's that shitty reviewers sometimes get PMs admonishing them for their crappy reviews, and only review bans or review deletions afterwards if they're unresponsive to the mods' warnings. And if this were implemented, it should probably be on a flags-per-votes system, that a submission with a ton of votes over time (say, any award-winner) would take a large number of flags, even from Deity whistles, to even bring it up for deletion.

And why, exactly, would IWP Flashes be the first ones flagged? I'd think something that many people hate would be the first to be mass-flagged, for example KK movies, or even the Hitler/Pokémon flashes. IWP has his haters, but not as many as the KK.

Another anti-abuse feature could be making it possible to whistle a flash post-judgment only during its first week on the Portal, so we don't have morons going through the archives and picking off anything they wish.

Maybe the first month or so... But not something really old.

ANOTHER possible feature would be allowing this as a relatively low-level secret---potential solutions including attaching it to EXP, where it would be unlocked like a normal secret (low enough for legit users to earn in a few months, high enough to make it a pain for people to alt-farm accounts), or attaching it to Whistle level---silver or higher, maybe.

Maybe a secret between the Cake and the Graffiti, or better between the Graffiti and the one after it. But I kind of like the idea of attaching it to whistle levels, only giving users who are able to be trusted with whistles the opportunity to flag after Judgment. Though, if I were Wade, I'd begin it at Bronze rather than Silver, just to make it a bit easier. Not that it's all that hard to go from Bronze to Silver.

I'm not sure if a Portal Mod should be able to pull and delete flashes on their own; that seems like too much power for one person (admin-power, in fact).

Hmm... Maybe deletion on account of flag criteria could only happen after a certain amount of flagging power (say, the equivalent of 50 Normal whistles, or 10 Deities if the ratios that I heard are correct) at 200 votes, that the ratio of total flag power (with Normal-level whistles as 1) to votes would have to be at least 1/4 after Judgment, and increasing as the number of votes increase.

There are LOTS of possibilities in implementing Portal Mods, and lots of ways to prevent it from being abused. I hope to see Portal Mods someday---I think quite a few EGB members would make good judges of what is and is not abuse---in some form or fashion.

Actually, the user who I think would make the best Portal Mod would be BlueHippo... But he's already got two responsibilities (for Reviews and the BBS), plus work, so he might be hard-pressed for time.

Hell, at the very least, they could sort through the queue of normally-flagged flashes, so Wade doesn't have to look through them all himself or purge everything in one blast.

He hasn't had time to do either since the redesign, if what I've been hearing on Wi/Ht is correct. That's why this whole idea of Portal mods came up, and why it's such a good idea.

I have a question...
is a little.. kind of stupid question...
but...

apart from the color... what are the differences between the Private to Sgt. Major & Praporshchik to General... ?

because
I heard... welcome to the "officers"... &... the "big leagues"
I know they are different... obviously...
but... what's that difference?

At 2/13/08 10:23 PM, aldlv wrote: apart from the color... what are the differences between the Private to Sgt. Major & Praporshchik to General... ?

It's the color, the style, the level of the real-life equivalent, and the gap between ranks (it's 1000 from Private to Pvt First Class, 1500 from Praporshchik to Lieutenant, with both continuing until the end of their series). So basically, it's the same as the difference between the first few ranks and the Police ranks, or between the Police ranks and the lower Elite Guard ranks.

At 2/13/08 10:30 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote:

At 2/13/08 10:23 PM, aldlv wrote: apart from the color... what are the differences between the Private to Sgt. Major & Praporshchik to General... ?

It's the color, the style, the level of the real-life equivalent, and the gap between ranks (it's 1000 from Private to Pvt First Class, 1500 from Praporshchik to Lieutenant, with both continuing until the end of their series). So basically, it's the same as the difference between the first few ranks and the Police ranks, or between the Police ranks and the lower Elite Guard ranks.

the level of the real-life equivalent
... interesting...
let me see...
*copy all rank on wikipedia*
*chose go to Spanish's wikipedia*
interesting...

btw... Praporshchik could be Ensign, right?

At 2/13/08 11:06 PM, aldlv wrote:
btw... Praporshchik could be Ensign, right?

Since Praporshchik means "flag officer" or something, then yes, Ensign (which also means a flag) could mean the same thing.

At 2/13/08 11:12 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote:

At 2/13/08 11:06 PM, aldlv wrote:
btw... Praporshchik could be Ensign, right?

Since Praporshchik means "flag officer" or something, then yes, Ensign (which also means a flag) could mean the same thing.

I'm frankly surprised at the usage of the rank 'Praporshchik' in the B/P rankings, especially considering it's an old russian rank that is now in abeyance.

My interpretation of the rank, in context of the NG rankings hierarchy, is that it equates to an 'Officer Cadet', as pre-redesign it was the rank previous to Second Lieutenant, which is the lowest commissioned officer rank in the existing army rankings.

Now it probably serves more as a Second Lieutenant placement, due to the merging of First and Second Lieutenant into one rank.

It's such an ambiguous rank - I'd really like to find out what the thinking was behind its inclusion to the B/P ranks.

Also aldv, so you know, some people don't take kindly to PM spam.

Keep that in mind next time you send PMs off to the online list.

At 2/13/08 10:23 PM, aldlv wrote: apart from the color... what are the differences between the Private to Sgt. Major & Praporshchik to General... ?

Sergeant Major is an NCO or Non-Comissioned Officer. Praporshchik is the lowest of Comissioned Officers, I believe. Any rank from Praporshchik is a Comissioned officer, as was the way that these ranks were handed out during the 17th century onwards. Rich people could buy their sons a nice comission, so they went to military school and didn't have to deal with the common soildery, that was the NCO's job.

Can I join?

At 2/14/08 09:42 AM, cristianedu wrote: Can I join?

Sorry, Civilian, but the minimum requirements for joining the Elite Guard Barracks are 2,500 B/P points (Private B/P rank).

Consider joining the NG Police Headquarters once you have gained the rank of Portal Security - several EGB members have 'graduated' from the NG Police HQ and joined us once they gained the required amount of points.

Hey guys whats up? I see we got a few more civilians trying to join around here. But as for me i hav been having some problems around here and havent really been able to be as active as i would like to be. And i also havent been able to deposit alot either cosidering i am so close to my next lvl.

Happy Valentines Day, y'all!

I'd tell you how mine was but....., ok well it started off by a math test, well thats how i started off school...

At 2/14/08 08:20 AM, NEVR wrote: It's such an ambiguous rank - I'd really like to find out what the thinking was behind its inclusion to the B/P ranks.

I read in this thread (Wade's post) that Tom didn't like the sound of "Warrant Officer", so he decided to replace it with a similar rank from the Russian army that sounded cooler.

why should we care about valentine day anyway?

isn't it just another random commercial holiday?
anyway, have fun kids

Valentine's Day hasn't really ever been special for me. I wish my friends happy Valentine's, but that's about it. Hell, the only reason I'm writing a Valentine's special fanfiction is so my readers don't lynch me.

Incidentally, has anyone noticed that there have been a LOT of school shootings in the past week, and damn near zero media coverage about it? What the fuck is up with that? It hasn't been one or two, it's been like half a dozen.

And yet, I still manage to get BREAKING NEWS e-mails about Britney Spears.

Goodie.

At 2/14/08 08:27 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Valentine's Day hasn't really ever been special for me. I wish my friends happy Valentine's, but that's about it. Hell, the only reason I'm writing a Valentine's special fanfiction is so my readers don't lynch me.

Incidentally, has anyone noticed that there have been a LOT of school shootings in the past week, and damn near zero media coverage about it? What the fuck is up with that? It hasn't been one or two, it's been like half a dozen.

And yet, I still manage to get BREAKING NEWS e-mails about Britney Spears.

Goodie.

I call conspiracy! Too little security at our schools, the politicians are total do-nothings, the corporations are in control, the economy is in shambles... And all this time, the corporate media is focusing on BS, moving the public's mind away from real issues and towards some dumb celeb. That's taking advantage of an evolutionary instinct, for the purpose of continuing wealth and power, because if the public had any idea what was really going on, there'd be some changes coming. Not a revolution, but reforms to put the power back in the hands of the people.

My God! I haven't been home in over 13 hours! Let's see what we got here...

Oh! Before I forget does anyone what to deposit for me from the 19-24? I might be able to squeeze in a deposit on the 19th and 24th, and I also would like to have them vote on 2-5 UJ submissions, so I can keep getting some points.

At 2/14/08 08:27 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Valentine's Day hasn't really ever been special for me.

Meh, me either. I mean, I haven't ever really had anyone special to share it with, so it hasn't ever really held any importance in my life.

Incidentally, has anyone noticed that there have been a LOT of school shootings in the past week, and damn near zero media coverage about it?

If the news didn't cover it, it didn't happen.

But its because this week is supposed to be all about love (and depression, hence school shootings), and the news doesn't want to bring a lot of sad news to its viewers.

And yet, I still manage to get BREAKING NEWS e-mails about Britney Spears.

Because she's more important than whoever lost their lives in those shootings, duh.

Not to be an insensitive prick or anything.

At 2/14/08 10:06 PM, TheThing wrote:

Oh! Before I forget does anyone what to deposit for me from the 19-24? I might be able to squeeze in a deposit on the 19th and 24th, and I also would like to have them vote on 2-5 UJ submissions, so I can keep getting some points.

If you really need someone I guess I could deposit for you.

My friends xbox sounds like they're bouncing bolts on a subwoofer inside their xbox.

At 2/14/08 10:16 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: My friends xbox sounds like they're bouncing bolts on a subwoofer inside their xbox.

Please ignore this. D: Wrong thread D:

At 2/14/08 10:06 PM, TheThing wrote: My God! I haven't been home in over 13 hours! Let's see what we got here...

Oh! Before I forget does anyone what to deposit for me from the 19-24? I might be able to squeeze in a deposit on the 19th and 24th, and I also would like to have them vote on 2-5 UJ submissions, so I can keep getting some points.

Hmm. You're going away? Where to? Well, if nobody else wants the job, I'd be willing to do it... I mean, just vote on those five or so UJ submissions per day for you, then get back to my own account.

At 2/14/08 08:27 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Valentine's Day hasn't really ever been special for me.

Meh, me either. I mean, I haven't ever really had anyone special to share it with, so it hasn't ever really held any importance in my life.

Agreed... I just can't seem to get chicks to like me. The only chick I have is Palmela Handerson.

At 2/14/08 07:17 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: I read in this thread (Wade's post) that Tom didn't like the sound of "Warrant Officer", so he decided to replace it with a similar rank from the Russian army that sounded cooler.

Interesting. 'Warrant Officer' is the British Army version of a Sergeant Major, which is a senior NCO rank, not a commissioned rank.

In the US, a 'Warrant Officer' is ranked above all enlisted and NCO ranks, and Officer cadets, but below any commissioned Officers, like Second Lieutenants.

In that respect, I imagine Warrant Officer is an even more ambiguous rank than Praporshchik, due to it being an Officer rank in the US, and an NCO rank in the UK.