At 3/19/24 08:35 PM, tox wrote:At 3/19/24 08:33 PM, gamejunkie wrote:Does this work/do anything/have a purpose?
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/922450
if you click and drag the different parts from the bottom left of the game to the given spots, you have put the computer parts in the slot
Nothing showing on the bottom left of my screen, bottom right has a sell button, I've tried resizing the page up & down but there's nothing in the bottom left corner.
At 3/19/24 08:41 PM, gamejunkie wrote:At 3/19/24 08:35 PM, tox wrote:At 3/19/24 08:33 PM, gamejunkie wrote:Does this work/do anything/have a purpose?
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/922450
if you click and drag the different parts from the bottom left of the game to the given spots, you have put the computer parts in the slot
Nothing showing on the bottom left of my screen, bottom right has a sell button, I've tried resizing the page up & down but there's nothing in the bottom left corner.
scroll down in the game, and it should appear in the bottom left
At 3/19/24 08:43 PM, tox wrote:At 3/19/24 08:41 PM, gamejunkie wrote:At 3/19/24 08:35 PM, tox wrote:At 3/19/24 08:33 PM, gamejunkie wrote:Does this work/do anything/have a purpose?
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/922450
if you click and drag the different parts from the bottom left of the game to the given spots, you have put the computer parts in the slot
Nothing showing on the bottom left of my screen, bottom right has a sell button, I've tried resizing the page up & down but there's nothing in the bottom left corner.
scroll down in the game, and it should appear in the bottom left
It's a bit sticky for the drag and drop but it worked for me
Audio / Forum / Games & Movies Moderator. Flag stolen content, don't be a dingus.
Alright, I have a question for my betters regarding copyright
I will not be flagging this submission myself
https://www.freepik.com/ advertises itself as a free to use website, and freepik.com even gives you a big and bold download button near pictures, not to mention the online editor
A search through the terms of service of freepik.com shows that freepik.com owns all materials, intellectual thoughts, and everything that is posted to the website
freepik.com is free to
By uploading any User Content to the Service, you expressly grant, represent and guarantee that you have all necessary rights to grant the Company a multi-use, sub-licensable, transferable, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, non-exclusive, worldwide license to use, reproduce, publish, communicate to the public and distribute all User Content, in whole or in part, and in any form, media or technology, whether now known or hereafter developed, for use in connection with the Service and the business of the Company (and its successors and affiliates), including without limitation to promote and redistribute part or all of the Service in any format and through any media channels, including any third party with whom the Company may partner.
but you wouldn't know that unless you went looking for it because... well... freepix.com, download, edit, share buttons
smells like AI art, viruses and tracking cookies if you ask me
The linked game features SOME art taken from freepix.com. Is that against the rules here on newgrounds?
On the surface it's free, they encourage users to download and use materials freely
At 3/20/24 12:57 AM, tox wrote:Alright, I have a question for my betters regarding copyright
I will not be flagging this submission myself
and a lot of other stuff.
What do you think? Knowing that it's ok to use some assets in games that are gained elsewhere, like we've discussed already, what do you think on this? Make a decision and post it, Tox.
At 3/20/24 01:01 AM, Exedor wrote:At 3/20/24 12:57 AM, tox wrote:Alright, I have a question for my betters regarding copyrightWhat do you think? Knowing that it's ok to use some assets in games that are gained elsewhere, like we've discussed already, what do you think on this? Make a decision and post it, Tox.
I will not be flagging this submission myself
and a lot of other stuff.
after humming and hawing, I'm siding with caution and flagging it after all
At 3/20/24 01:16 AM, tox wrote:At 3/20/24 01:01 AM, Exedor wrote:At 3/20/24 12:57 AM, tox wrote:Alright, I have a question for my betters regarding copyrightWhat do you think? Knowing that it's ok to use some assets in games that are gained elsewhere, like we've discussed already, what do you think on this? Make a decision and post it, Tox.
I will not be flagging this submission myself
and a lot of other stuff.
after humming and hawing, I'm siding with caution and flagging it after all
Ok, but why?
At 3/20/24 12:57 AM, tox wrote:On the surface it's free, they encourage users to download and use materials freely
Not flag-worthy in my eyes, given that the images are properly credited. If they were claimed as their own with the watermark taken out, then maybe, but it's not bad for these type of games to use free assets.
Wouldn't blame you if you wanted to rate it zero though!
At 3/20/24 01:26 AM, Exedor wrote:At 3/20/24 01:16 AM, tox wrote:after humming and hawing, I'm siding with caution and flagging it after allOk, but why?
why flag it?
when it all boils down, freepik.com as an entity owns the digital files that are being submitted through the game
the user does not have free use of the materials even if freepik.com is encouraging users to download materials and content. freepik is paying to store that file, they own that file
At 3/20/24 01:35 AM, tox wrote:why flag it?
when it all boils down, freepik.com as an entity owns the digital files that are being submitted through the game
the user does not have free use of the materials even if freepik.com is encouraging users to download materials and content. freepik is paying to store that file, they own that file
Not sure if I agree, given one of the first things I see when I look at the site is the phrase "Ready-to-use everything" - it's clear the website wants you to use these files, and with proper credit given I don't see the harm.
Worth rating 0 on, it's pretty obvious this game wasn't made to be anything but shovelware - but I don't think it's flaggable.
At 3/20/24 01:35 AM, tox wrote:At 3/20/24 01:26 AM, Exedor wrote:At 3/20/24 01:16 AM, tox wrote:after humming and hawing, I'm siding with caution and flagging it after allOk, but why?
why flag it?
when it all boils down, freepik.com as an entity owns the digital files that are being submitted through the game
the user does not have free use of the materials even if freepik.com is encouraging users to download materials and content. freepik is paying to store that file, they own that file
The rule that I'm going for is the inclusion of photographs, (art pieces) that the author did not create
/edit
NOPE!!!!
I'M STAYING MY COURSE!
terms of service:
section V. user submissions
C. In connection with User Submissions, you further agree that you will not: (i) submit material that is copyrighted, protected by trade secret or otherwise subject to third party proprietary rights,
thank you Exedor, your poking makes me a better person here
At 3/20/24 02:03 AM, tox wrote:C. In connection with User Submissions, you further agree that you will not: (i) submit material that is copyrighted, protected by trade secret or otherwise subject to third party proprietary rights,
Not to act like a lawyer for a shovelware game, but it seems the whole point of Freepik is that the images aren't copyrighted - they're free to use with attribution required, unless you pay for their premium membership in which case attribution isn't required.
Attribution was clearly given, both in the pictures being watermarked and in the description of the game itself.
At 3/20/24 02:20 AM, CarterSterling wrote:At 3/20/24 02:03 AM, tox wrote:C. In connection with User Submissions, you further agree that you will not: (i) submit material that is copyrighted, protected by trade secret or otherwise subject to third party proprietary rights,
Not to act like a lawyer for a shovelware game, but it seems the whole point of Freepik is that the images aren't copyrighted - they're free to use with attribution required, unless you pay for their premium membership in which case attribution isn't required.
Attribution was clearly given, both in the pictures being watermarked and in the description of the game itself.
I'll just v0te on it.
CS - Musician, animator, and nostalgia enthusiast since 2020.
- they/she - 🏳️⚧️
Created with Animaker, by submitter's admission
he/they - pretty cool guy
Reupload of Metalocalypse special "Metalocalypse: The Doomstar Requiem - A Klok Opera":
he/they - pretty cool guy
At 3/20/24 12:57 AM, tox wrote:Alright, I have a question for my betters regarding copyright
I will not be flagging this submission myself
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/922508
https://www.freepik.com/ advertises itself as a free to use website, and freepik.com even gives you a big and bold download button near pictures, not to mention the online editor
A search through the terms of service of freepik.com shows that freepik.com owns all materials, intellectual thoughts, and everything that is posted to the website
freepik.com is free toBy uploading any User Content to the Service, you expressly grant, represent and guarantee that you have all necessary rights to grant the Company a multi-use, sub-licensable, transferable, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, non-exclusive, worldwide license to use, reproduce, publish, communicate to the public and distribute all User Content, in whole or in part, and in any form, media or technology, whether now known or hereafter developed, for use in connection with the Service and the business of the Company (and its successors and affiliates), including without limitation to promote and redistribute part or all of the Service in any format and through any media channels, including any third party with whom the Company may partner.
but you wouldn't know that unless you went looking for it because... well... freepix.com, download, edit, share buttons
smells like AI art, viruses and tracking cookies if you ask me
The linked game features SOME art taken from freepix.com. Is that against the rules here on newgrounds?
On the surface it's free, they encourage users to download and use materials freely
This is a standard use license for every site that hosts user content. It means that freepik.com is allowed to host the content on their servers, generate thumbnails, and have it be shown on people's browsers regardless of where they're accessing the site from in the world or what device they use to do it, without having to pay a license fee to do so.
If you look at the Terms of Service of sites like Imgur, Reddit, Twitter, Tumblr, Discord, etc., they will all ask the same thing. It doesn't mean they own all the rights to everything. In fact, this is from the same section you quoted, but at the start (emphasis mine):
Some areas of the Service allow Users to upload and use content such as [list of examples], or to create new content by the User (“User Content”). The User retains ownership of his or her User Content, and understands that he or she is entirely responsible for all such User Content, including the Intellectual Property Rights of third parties incorporated therein.
And here's this section of Newgrounds's terms:
For clarity, you retain all of your ownership rights in your User Submissions. However, by submitting the User Submissions to Newgrounds, you hereby grant Newgrounds a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform the User Submissions in connection with the Newgrounds Website and Newgrounds's (and its successor's) business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the Newgrounds Website (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels. You also hereby grant each user of the Newgrounds Website a non-exclusive license to access your User Submissions through the Website, and to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display and perform such User Submissions as permitted through the functionality of the Website and under these Terms of Service. The foregoing license granted by you terminates once you remove or delete a User Submission from the Newgrounds Website.
What does the part mean where "You also hereby grant each user of Newgrounds" the same rights? It means I can favorite your art and have a thumbnail of it show up on my profile under my "favorite art" section. Or feature your art in a news post, or suggest your art in the Art Front Page Suggestion Thread. All of that involves me using the intellectual property you uploaded to Newgrounds in some way, while also transforming it in the process (thumbnails don't look like the art you submitted - they're much smaller). It doesn't mean I own your stuff now, or that you no longer own it yourself.
It all sounds very nefarious but that's because it's written in lawyerspeak.
At 3/20/24 02:03 AM, tox wrote:At 3/20/24 01:35 AM, tox wrote:At 3/20/24 01:26 AM, Exedor wrote:At 3/20/24 01:16 AM, tox wrote:after humming and hawing, I'm siding with caution and flagging it after allOk, but why?
why flag it?
when it all boils down, freepik.com as an entity owns the digital files that are being submitted through the game
the user does not have free use of the materials even if freepik.com is encouraging users to download materials and content. freepik is paying to store that file, they own that file
The rule that I'm going for is the inclusion of photographs, (art pieces) that the author did not create
/edit
NOPE!!!!
I'M STAYING MY COURSE!
terms of service:
section V. user submissions
C. In connection with User Submissions, you further agree that you will not: (i) submit material that is copyrighted, protected by trade secret or otherwise subject to third party proprietary rights,
thank you Exedor, your poking makes me a better person here
This means you have to own the copyright to the content you submit to freepik.com. You're not allowed to submit images that are copyrighted by someone else.
Almost an entire page about a Colouring Book Game? Wow! That was exhausting, you're all arguing about a game? that is clearly made for young children, young children that are not allowed on Newgrounds. So posting it here was basically pointless because unless you're like 3 to 8 years old, I'm positive you all v0ted c0rrectly anyway. I mean if you did give it anything more than '0' I seriously question your sanity. So anyway stop arguing about it, it's been dealt with.
The game wasn't really the point, only the catalyst of the discussion for copyright
Also, this actually marks the first time I have ever used the terms of service instead of the guidelines to flag something
It's always a big event when you pop your cherry 🍒
At 3/20/24 08:39 AM, gamejunkie wrote:Almost an entire page about a Colouring Book Game? Wow! That was exhausting, you're all arguing about a game? that is clearly made for young children, young children that are not allowed on Newgrounds. So posting it here was basically pointless because unless you're like 3 to 8 years old, I'm positive you all v0ted c0rrectly anyway. I mean if you did give it anything more than '0' I seriously question your sanity. So anyway stop arguing about it, it's been dealt with.
At 3/20/24 08:39 AM, gamejunkie wrote:Almost an entire page about a Colouring Book Game? Wow! That was exhausting, you're all arguing about a game? that is clearly made for young children, young children that are not allowed on Newgrounds. So posting it here was basically pointless because unless you're like 3 to 8 years old, I'm positive you all v0ted c0rrectly anyway. I mean if you did give it anything more than '0' I seriously question your sanity. So anyway stop arguing about it, it's been dealt with.
Rather than dedicate ~30 posts, you could've just called it shovelware.
CS - Musician, animator, and nostalgia enthusiast since 2020.
- they/she - 🏳️⚧️
I wasn't arguing for or against anything. I just wanted to clear up a (very common) misunderstanding.
At 3/20/24 10:01 AM, SmurfCatIsGay wrote:Stolen:
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/922542
Original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFf4FmmTBXo
Not stolen, the Linktree for the YouTube account that made the thing links back to the Newgrounds account that uploaded the "stolen" submission.
I'm happy it got dealt with, but the conversation was more about whether or not images from free-to-use image sites constitute as stolen assets or not.
And given that Newgrounds itself allows users to publish art under a Creative Commons license in the Art portal, I think it's a healthy conversation to have!
At 3/20/24 11:50 AM, CarterSterling wrote:I'm happy it got dealt with, but the conversation was more about whether or not images from free-to-use image sites constitute as stolen assets or not.
And given that Newgrounds itself allows users to publish art under a Creative Commons license in the Art portal, I think it's a healthy conversation to have!
Its definitely good this whole issue got hashed out - makes it clear where the line is regarding asset use.
he/they - pretty cool guy
he/they - pretty cool guy
He just doesn't know when to quit. Reuploading blammed content.
Originals:
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/rip/918306
At 3/20/24 03:31 PM, Pokemonpoeguygcn wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/922575
He just doesn't know when to quit. Reuploading blammed content.
Originals:
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/rip/918306
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/rip/918429
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/rip/920388
Its times like these which make me wonder how you'd automate detecting such reuploads.
he/they - pretty cool guy
At 3/20/24 03:34 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:At 3/20/24 03:31 PM, Pokemonpoeguygcn wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/922575Its times like these which make me wonder how you'd automate detecting such reuploads.
He just doesn't know when to quit. Reuploading blammed content.
Originals:
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/rip/918306
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/rip/918429
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/rip/920388
It's quite easy when they don't wait for a long period of time before reuploading. If they had waited like a month before doing it the first time, I would not have remember this and ignore it. But after 4 reuploads within a little over a month, it's a lot more obvious and way easier to remember.
<EXPLICIT> https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/922611
Reupload of removed submission: https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/922511
he/they - pretty cool guy
he/they - pretty cool guy
he/they - pretty cool guy
