Ooof! Headache or Aneurysm, I'm not sure. I'm going to continue what I've been doing regardless.
If you can't understand what Tom or Exedor wrote you should not be a member of the EGB.
At 2/24/24 12:44 PM, Exedor wrote:At 2/24/24 12:34 PM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:7- If the character is presented with the features of a 18 year old and the author says nothing about their age.The answer to your questions are: Fap away, and, if you get an erection. It it looks like an 18 and no age is given, it's legal and there are no issues.
8- If the character is presented with the features of a 18 year old and the author says nothing about their age.
What about these ones? How do you tell?
Not necessarily good advice for those with ED, or are pedos, or is EDP.
At 2/24/24 12:30 PM, tox wrote:Don't go into older stale items unless it was something that you thought needs to really be brought to attention
Bring out your hammers
If you happen to run across something that was submitted 10 years ago & let's say it's. 'Bart Simpson fucking Lisa Simpson', then YES, Flag it. Just don't go searching for it.
At 2/24/24 12:34 PM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:At 2/24/24 12:30 PM, tox wrote:At 2/24/24 12:10 PM, TomFulp wrote:At 2/24/24 10:55 AM, tox wrote:At 2/24/24 04:55 AM, Exedor wrote:At 2/24/24 04:00 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:Does this include aging up the character (physically, based entirely on appearance)?It's based on the appearance. I've mentioned that many times. Don't contrast rules from one area to another and confuse yourself, or others.
I saw in the Art Guidelines and the Content Submission rules that this is based on whether it looks like a minor, not necessarily their canon age, but the Movie Guidelines states "no grey areas".At 2/24/24 06:47 AM, gamejunkie wrote:At 2/24/24 04:00 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
Does this include aging up the character (physically, based entirely on appearance)?
My rule of thumb & it sits with the 'No Grey Areas' clause is quite simple, if they're not 18 then it's underage. I do a simple Google search on each individual Movie/Character for example, Pokemon Misty age. The result will be Misty is 12 years old. It DOES NOT matter if they put a disclaimer in their Author Comments saying, 'All characters depicted in this movie are 18+' that's just a pathetic attempt at getting around the 'No Grey Areas' clause & it's not an acceptable excuse. Also & this is where Exedor & I have differing opinions on the subject, the ageing up thing is in my opinion not acceptable, underage is underage & since it doesn't say anywhere in the Movie Guidelines that it's okay to submit underage content as long as you age the characters up, underage is underage. Think of this as an example, if you or I had a 12/13/14 year old daughter & she put on all her make-up & looked a million dollars & looked 20 years old (it happens, I've seen it many times) would you be happy if a 20/25 year old guy hit on her? Simple answer here is No you would not & if you say it wouldn't bother you, you're straight up lying. The only instance where submitters kind of get around this is when they're posting content where the characters look young but they're Fairies or whatever & Google search shows their age as over 1,000 years or whatever. I'll discuss this further with Tom. From the talks we've had so far he's suggested that cleaning up the site is long overdue & he's happy that I've taken the initiative to do what I can about it.
@Tomfulp
@Exedor
@Gamejunkie
Sexual content involving underage characters is prohibited, please don't look for grey areas.
I think that this rule will have to change after this discussion as the gray area might expand a lot based on these posts
I already see how this will potentially change the art portal rules as well
how we have been taught:
I believe that the argument here is on #5 and #6
Gamejunkie wants us to flag, Exedor wants us to nothing, Tom wants us to _____
The second and possibly more important question is: if the decision to change #5 and #6 is, to a flaggable item, how far back do we want to take this?
I am pretty sure that I speak for a lot of individuals with this, please let us know how you want us users to flag and we will go to war, I know that this has been a rather hot topic for a bunch of us
We have traditionally allowed the aging up of characters, where if the art looks like an adult, we treat it as an adult. There is still a lot of grey area stuff where it's questionable if characters have been aged up enough and overall, I'm so sick of it at this point and I'm sick of artists who specialize in making lewds of characters who are known for being kids.
When you say "go to war", you're right because it's a massive topic to tackle, it's hard to specify where the line is unless you do things 100% based on canonical age.
This post by rtil is one to think about. RTIL was banned from DeviantArt because DA considered this art to be a 14 year old. To someone who isn't fixated on fictional character canonical ages, it does seem silly. But it's also what would happen if you have a black and white policy based on canonical ages.
NG has its own Overton Window that is shifting over time, where it seems like we wouldn't want to get as extreme as what happened in that DA example, but there is stuff that should be removed that might have gotten a pass in the past.
I'll note, this gradual slide goes both ways. When we opened the Portal in 2000, we had a rule that hardcore porn was not allowed. But people would make funny porn, or really well animated porn and the window gradually shifted. It got harder and harder to draw a line because we were making more and more exceptions, until we got to the point where we are now.
I would very much like to see artists simply stop lewding characters who are known for being kids, or at least not post that art on Newgrounds, although posting it anywhere will give you a reputation that will follow you. There are so many adult characters to lewd, or you could create your own OCs, so I don't feel like that's asking too much.
As far as going back and mass flagging everything possible, I'd say start with flagging a few items that are at the top of your list of what you think is the most blatant.
so then as it sits now:
Don't go into older stale items unless it was something that you thought needs to really be brought to attention
Bring out your hammers
7- If the character is presented with the features of a 18 year old and the author says nothing about their age.
8- If the character is presented with the features of a 17 year old and the author says nothing about their age.
What about these ones? How do you tell?
Not everyone's going to be saying their characters' age in every single movie.
I guess the best answer to those 2 points is:
how can you tell that the character is ....15,16,17,18,19,20...
Per Tom we are now doing canon age's and or if it makes you sick then flag it
it's a great scapegoat or retort for us/mods/admins being able to tell rule breakers to be original and stop trying to ride on the backs of other already created characters, "be original" instead of creating a gray area character
Per Exedor, we are no longer splitting hairs
Per GameJunkie we need to clean it up
At 2/24/24 12:47 PM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:Not necessarily good advice for those with ED, or are pedos, or is EDP.
Why would ANY of these people give enough shit about flagging underage content in the first place.
At 2/24/24 01:47 PM, BickerySebastian wrote:At 2/24/24 12:47 PM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:Not necessarily good advice for those with ED, or are pedos, or is EDP.Why would ANY of these people give enough shit about flagging underage content in the first place.
Good question.
No animation. Just a reminder, if this link disappears, that means it has been blammed, but if it turns into "Unpublished Submission", that means the mods took it down.
Might possibly be AI generated. Same face, and there's no animation except for visual effects on a song.
Still image. No animation
No animation
As indicated by the description, this is a modified version of someone else's work.
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/919314 (NSFW)
Friday Night Fuckin modded gameplay footage
<EXPLICIT> https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/919485
Speedpaint
Stolen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ScZyrCa3iU
AI-generated, using veed.io
At 2/25/24 05:28 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/919467
Stolen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ScZyrCa3iU
I was looking for that!
thanks bud
modified version of these animations
Big Idea Productions Logo (1997, Extended Version) by JYStudios
https://youtu.be/HcAgKEDA_bM?list=PL-30vG3zE6DfNAKhtoqawrGReINd5tU2X&t=4
https://youtu.be/XIbgfGkiX_s?list=PL-30vG3zE6DfNAKhtoqawrGReINd5tU2X
At 2/25/24 05:40 PM, tox wrote:modified version of these animations
Big Idea Productions Logo (1997, Extended Version) by JYStudios
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/919503
https://youtu.be/HcAgKEDA_bM?list=PL-30vG3zE6DfNAKhtoqawrGReINd5tU2X&t=4
https://youtu.be/XIbgfGkiX_s?list=PL-30vG3zE6DfNAKhtoqawrGReINd5tU2X
Hi commander! Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure this is a recreation as opposed to simply a modified version of something - maybe not something that warrants a high score, but I'm not sure if it warrants getting reported or not. I may be wrong though!
Fetish animation rated as M - although they're both clothed, Newgrounds only allows M ratings for butts that are clearly non-sexual which this doesn't fall under.
And another from the same creator, again rated as M
Stolen, note sure where the actual source is but I found another reupload confirming this was stolen -> https://ifunny.co/video/see-that-meme-up-there-it-s-mine-now-spor-sUK20FDzA
EGB-related update:
My whistle's just turned silver! :D
At 2/26/24 02:45 AM, CarterSterling wrote:[...] [A]lthough they're both clothed, Newgrounds only allows M ratings for butts that are clearly non-sexual[.]
The art, game and movie portals do not share exact guidelines. There isn't really a "Newgrounds only allows" in that sense. The guideline you're (probably) thinking of is from the Art Guidelines.
Also, you're misremembering the guideline, which is about nude butts:
Mild artistic nudity (non-sexualized butts, mostly) is allowed in M-rated submissions but we ask that nudity not be shown in a thumbnail unless a submission is A-rated.
The Games Portal has a similar guideline, but again it is about nudity:
Any nudity beyond a non-sexualized butt should fall under the A rating nowadays.
There are other reasons you might rerate some of these entries (arguably sexualised content) or even remove some of them (sexualisation of underage characters). Butt, in the end, the bottom line is I wanted to make sure you don't make an ass of yourself misquoting or misapplying guidelines in a cheeky manner.
At 2/26/24 05:02 AM, alsoknownas1 wrote:The art, game and movie portals do not share exact guidelines. There isn't really a "Newgrounds only allows" in that sense. The guideline you're (probably) thinking of is from the Art Guidelines.
Also, you're misremembering the guideline, which is about nude butts:
The Games Portal has a similar guideline, but again it is about nudity:
There are other reasons you might rerate some of these entries (arguably sexualised content) or even remove some of them (sexualisation of underage characters). Butt, in the end, the bottom line is I wanted to make sure you don't make an ass of yourself misquoting or misapplying guidelines in a cheeky manner.
Sorry about that, I'll try not to butt in without re-checking the rules next time. I always overestimate how good my memory is lol - I appreciate it, thank you!
At 2/26/24 05:20 AM, CarterSterling wrote:At 2/26/24 05:02 AM, alsoknownas1 wrote:The art, game and movie portals do not share exact guidelines. There isn't really a "Newgrounds only allows" in that sense. The guideline you're (probably) thinking of is from the Art Guidelines.
Also, you're misremembering the guideline, which is about nude butts:
The Games Portal has a similar guideline, but again it is about nudity:
There are other reasons you might rerate some of these entries (arguably sexualised content) or even remove some of them (sexualisation of underage characters). Butt, in the end, the bottom line is I wanted to make sure you don't make an ass of yourself misquoting or misapplying guidelines in a cheeky manner.
Sorry about that, I'll try not to butt in without re-checking the rules next time ;P I always overestimate how good my memory is lol - I appreciate it, thank you!
Don't listen to him. Fetish content is fetish content:
If your animation is fetish content, please just mark at as adult; people get unhappy when fetish content appears in the non-adult listings.
At 2/26/24 05:22 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:Don't listen to him. Fetish content is fetish content.
Peace brother.
I already mentioned the sexualisation/fetish rules. I was just trying to clarify the rules regarding clothed butts.
The means by which you pursue an end matters. :)
At 2/26/24 05:20 AM, CarterSterling wrote:Sorry about that, I'll try not to butt in without re-checking the rules next time. I always overestimate how good my memory is lol - I appreciate it, thank you!
No worries man. I wasn't trying to dump on you or bum you out. Just glad to be of ass-istance.
At 2/26/24 05:49 AM, alsoknownas1 wrote:At 2/26/24 05:20 AM, CarterSterling wrote:Sorry about that, I'll try not to butt in without re-checking the rules next time. I always overestimate how good my memory is lol - I appreciate it, thank you!
No worries man. I wasn't trying to dump on you or bum you out. Just glad to be of ass-istance.
highlighting a pun in bold sure takes away from what makes it funny in the first place.
At 2/26/24 06:44 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:highlighting a pun in bold sure takes away from what makes it funny in the first place.
Exactly. It simulates what would be my terrible IRL delivery.
At 2/26/24 02:45 AM, CarterSterling wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/919542
And another from the same creator, again rated as M
Rating error aside, this is also straight-up stolen from somewhere else.
Hell, the dumbass who did it even admitted as such:
At 2/26/24 08:00 AM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:At 2/26/24 02:45 AM, CarterSterling wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/919542
And another from the same creator, again rated as M
Rating error aside, this is also straight-up stolen from somewhere else.
Hell, the dumbass who did it even admitted as such:
How did you find that? Do you suppose the Misty animation was stolen too?
At 2/26/24 08:06 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:At 2/26/24 08:00 AM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:At 2/26/24 02:45 AM, CarterSterling wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/919542
And another from the same creator, again rated as M
Rating error aside, this is also straight-up stolen from somewhere else.
Hell, the dumbass who did it even admitted as such:
How did you find that? Do you suppose the Misty animation was stolen too?
I found it by Googling ShulkKid's name and searching for their DeviantArt page. Content thieves aren't the brightest bulbs in the shed.
The Misty animation's probably stolen as well, but Brap hasn't openly admitted where they got it from.
You'll need to find the source yourself if you want to prove its stolen.
Reupload of blammed submission: https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/rip/919465
Good catch on the skullkid thing
I like the puns :p
We usually use the art portals age guidelines as a good reference point for content that we find in the games and movies portal. Apart from that we don't really mix and match guidelines from different portals to use against an artist
I think in my total time here I have only done that twice and while successful in removing the two animations based on art portal rules, there was good grounds to hold the user to account based on ownership rights which are ingrained in the movie Portal guidelines
Realistically:
Movie guidelines are for the movies portal
Game guidelines are for games portal
Art guidelines are for the art portal
I know both of these are stolen, and I recall them turning up in the Barracks earlier, but I cannot for the life of me find or remember what the sources are.
If anyone knows the source, please tell me.
At 2/26/24 04:02 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/919621
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/919623
I know both of these are stolen, and I recall them turning up in the Barracks earlier, but I cannot for the life of me find or remember what the sources are.
If anyone knows the source, please tell me.
Between the Lions
Q Without U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yqcZRjSGKI
When Two Vowels Go Walking
Mess with me and I'll rip your face off.
At 2/26/24 04:24 PM, Horgor wrote:At 2/26/24 04:02 PM, BlueMonday1984 wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/919621
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/919623
I know both of these are stolen, and I recall them turning up in the Barracks earlier, but I cannot for the life of me find or remember what the sources are.
If anyone knows the source, please tell me.
Between the Lions
Q Without U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yqcZRjSGKI
When Two Vowels Go Walking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fb3Pdt8kxg
Thanks.
At 2/26/24 05:06 PM, BlastoiseNetworkYT wrote:(Also because CoolSpeedyJosh was recently exposed for being a part of a nazi, racist community who harasses and doxxes people into suicide)
Here's a good question: what the fuck does this has to do with the submission at all??
Because at the end of the day, this is the EGB, drama doesn't have any place in here because it's a waste of space that steals the really important stuff away. Nobody comes here for drama, they're here to report submissions. Unless it's about the submission, I don't see any point mentioning of this in here.
