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The Elite Guard Barracks

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-07 01:46:41


At 7/7/22 01:13 AM, Exedor wrote:
At 7/6/22 08:20 PM, tox wrote:
At 7/6/22 01:42 PM, Pokemonpoeguygcn wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849128
No animation - Text messaging footage
no animation, just a text convo/RP between a few or 2 people... not sure how it works... it's not animation

It's not a real text message screen capture. notice the website at the very top of the screen? It's an app where users can write a story, just in the form of text message appearance:

D: Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.

L: He told me enough.
L: He told me you killed him.

D: Nope. I am your father.

L: ...dafuq?
L: wtf?!
L: OMG
L: X_x


Still, it's not an animation, not even close.


CS - Musician, animator, and nostalgia enthusiast since 2020.


- they/she

- My voice sucks, twice as much as usual

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-07 03:46:53


At 7/7/22 01:46 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 7/7/22 01:13 AM, Exedor wrote:
At 7/6/22 08:20 PM, tox wrote:
At 7/6/22 01:42 PM, Pokemonpoeguygcn wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849128
No animation - Text messaging footage
no animation, just a text convo/RP between a few or 2 people... not sure how it works... it's not animation

It's not a real text message screen capture. notice the website at the very top of the screen? It's an app where users can write a story, just in the form of text message appearance:

Darth Vader: Luke! I am your father.
Luke Skywalker: NOOOOOOOOO!!!!


As long as the original script isn't in a text message form as seen above, it's fanfiction and therefore parody, not rule-breaking.


Still, it's not an animation, not even close.


Very true, it's not. Doesn't necessarily belong in movies, but this doesn't mean it shouldn't belong somewhere else here.

#obituaries #deletedcontent #blam


If it's got enough value to get streamers of this sort coming here, it might be a good idea to see what happens.

Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-07 03:53:36


At 7/7/22 03:46 AM, Redmage4 wrote:
At 7/7/22 01:46 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 7/7/22 01:13 AM, Exedor wrote:
At 7/6/22 08:20 PM, tox wrote:
At 7/6/22 01:42 PM, Pokemonpoeguygcn wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849128
No animation - Text messaging footage
no animation, just a text convo/RP between a few or 2 people... not sure how it works... it's not animation

It's not a real text message screen capture. notice the website at the very top of the screen? It's an app where users can write a story, just in the form of text message appearance:

Darth Vader: Luke! I am your father.
Luke Skywalker: NOOOOOOOOO!!!!

As long as the original script isn't in a text message form as seen above, it's fanfiction and therefore parody, not rule-breaking.
Still, it's not an animation, not even close.


Very true, it's not. Doesn't necessarily belong in movies, but this doesn't mean it shouldn't belong somewhere else here.

If it's got enough value to get streamers of this sort coming here, it might be a good idea to see what happens.


I'm a hard no about this one. Also I think I can get this one under the 'modification of someone else's work' guideline, since it IS generated using a set template provided by someone else.


"Your submission must not be a modified version of someone else's work, including tutorial files."


CS - Musician, animator, and nostalgia enthusiast since 2020.


- they/she

- My voice sucks, twice as much as usual

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-07 04:22:07


At 7/7/22 03:53 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 7/7/22 03:46 AM, Redmage4 wrote:
At 7/7/22 01:46 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 7/7/22 01:13 AM, Exedor wrote:
At 7/6/22 08:20 PM, tox wrote:
At 7/6/22 01:42 PM, Pokemonpoeguygcn wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849128
No animation - Text messaging footage
no animation, just a text convo/RP between a few or 2 people... not sure how it works... it's not animation

It's not a real text message screen capture. notice the website at the very top of the screen? It's an app where users can write a story, just in the form of text message appearance:

Darth Vader: Luke! I am your father.
Luke Skywalker: NOOOOOOOOO!!!!

As long as the original script isn't in a text message form as seen above, it's fanfiction and therefore parody, not rule-breaking.
Still, it's not an animation, not even close.


Very true, it's not. Doesn't necessarily belong in movies, but this doesn't mean it shouldn't belong somewhere else here.

If it's got enough value to get streamers of this sort coming here, it might be a good idea to see what happens.

I'm a hard no about this one. Also I think I can get this one under the 'modification of someone else's work' guideline, since it IS generated using a set template provided by someone else.

Then flag it for anime copyright, and I'll recklessly see if putting all my 'voting power' to use can blast it away.

"Your submission must not be a modified version of someone else's work, including tutorial files."


"Your own work included, self plagiarism and all that" would be something to add.

Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-07 07:25:27


At 7/7/22 04:22 AM, Redmage4 wrote:"Your own work included, self plagiarism and all that" would be something to add.


What would that achieve?


CS - Musician, animator, and nostalgia enthusiast since 2020.


- they/she

- My voice sucks, twice as much as usual

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-07 15:00:23 (edited 2022-07-07 15:03:15)


At 7/7/22 07:25 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 7/7/22 04:22 AM, Redmage4 wrote:"Your own work included, self plagiarism and all that" would be something to add.

What would that achieve?


Just remember that we are supposed to vote fairly based on the face value content that is infront of us.

Flagging and voting ate 2 different entities, just because something brakes a rule dosent mean that its not a fantastic animation, or vise versa


Legend of Miyamoto for instance, broke the rules back in the day and our very own Frog fixed it


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-07 19:21:46


Original:


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-07 20:20:08 (edited 2022-07-07 20:20:18)



No animation


Yea, I farm Anal Penguins. Do something about it.

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-07 22:32:07


At 7/7/22 08:20 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849339

No animation


brah! that is one of the better live action's/skits i have seen in months

I gave it 4.5 stars ... a rare score from me

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-07 23:15:51


At 7/7/22 10:32 PM, tox wrote:
At 7/7/22 08:20 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849339

No animation

brah! that is one of the better live action's/skits i have seen in months

I gave it 4.5 stars ... a rare score from me


I’m confused though, is it not something we’re supposed to flag?


Yea, I farm Anal Penguins. Do something about it.

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-07 23:38:08


At 7/7/22 11:15 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote:
At 7/7/22 10:32 PM, tox wrote:
At 7/7/22 08:20 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849339

No animation

brah! that is one of the better live action's/skits i have seen in months

I gave it 4.5 stars ... a rare score from me

I’m confused though, is it not something we’re supposed to flag?


the "no aniamation" idea is an umbrella term that we usually use when there are a few things wrong with a submission, but its not "really" against the rules of the website, but it definatly falls under the idea of "why is this submission being uploaded to newgrounds, it belongs on youtube or something similar"


https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/387319/1807#bbspost27393116_post_text

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/387319/1807#bbspost27393804_post_text

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/387319/1806#bbspost27389260_post_text

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/387319/1806#bbspost27391978_post_text

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/387319/1805#bbspost27385524_post_text

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/387319/1805#bbspost27388427_post_text

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/387319/1805#bbspost27389025_post_text

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/387319/1804#bbspost27383669_post_text

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/387319/1804#bbspost27383807_post_text


althought the submissions are no longer viewable, these are good representations of what we usually call under the no animation rule


Our focus is on animation. If you want to try live action here, it must be a short film with legit production value and preferably some animation component done in post production.


would I flag a live-action/skit/presentation (thing) about FNF singing and rather creative methods to convey changes in a character's emotional state based on the characters' interactions inside of their "world"?

I think that there is legitimate production value to the presentation that the uploader presented...


here is an example... if this was uploaded to newgrounds, i would flag it as a no animation submission

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoDx_-4hW04&ab_channel=KidsFunTV

sure it has some production value, but why would we want to host something like this when youtube is a far better place to host this kind of content


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-07 23:55:35


gameplay footage, and edits from youtube/stolen

Pac man becomes sonictuber


@analpenguinfarming

a case could be made on the grounds of no animation on this video because there is no animation from the uploader...

bare in mind it's a weak case compared to "gameplay footage, and edits from youtube/stolen" but in a pinch, you can say "no animation" and it conveys the message that there is something wrong with the content that is being presented.


no animation = why is this here on Newgrounds, it belongs somewhere else in the WWW.

or

no animation = literally no animation


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-08 00:12:33 (edited 2022-07-08 00:13:34)


@analpenguinfarming


here is one that is currently passing


this one gets close to the no animation rule because of the content being primarily about the robotic voice/audio

it only shy's away from me calling it because there are SMALL amounts of animation in the character on the screen...

this is really close for me, and I'm sure that if I were to ask @Exedor for the logs or reports on the uploader in relation to these submissions, for flags, I'm pretty sure that there are going to be a few other people calling this thing under a spam rule otherwise known to us as "no animation"


but it doesn't pass the line because there "is" animation here and it's not "expressly" something that could easily integrate somewhere else in the WWW.


but I mean it's close for me

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-08 00:34:34


@tox I’ve followed all of your points and understand where you’re coming from but to me drawing on popsicle sticks about NG characters is still not animating. That’s youtube content like you’ve pointed out with other things. Even if it is very good and the voice acting is good isn’t it still not animation?


I think if we have a standard for all things not animation getting through then it’s something we have to stick to. There’s a reason NG is separate from youtube. I see your points but I have to, respectfully of course, disagree because we have a standard to uphold on what comes through.


How do we judge what is good popsicle stick drawing and bad? Fantastic voice acting but mediocre drawing is ok? Bad drawing but fantastic voice acting or vice versa? I don’t think there’s a solid line on it all.


Yea, I farm Anal Penguins. Do something about it.

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-08 01:50:12 (edited 2022-07-08 01:52:34)


At 7/8/22 12:34 AM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote:@tox
How do we judge what is good popsicle stick drawing and bad? Fantastic voice acting but mediocre drawing is ok? Bad drawing but fantastic voice acting or vice versa? I don’t think there’s a solid line on it all.


that first sentence lol


I look at the submission with an increased score because of the characters used in the animation. just the same way that if the characters were furries and the submission was submitted to a furry website the resulting score would be higher, just the same way that if the characters were emo/goth and the animation was submitted to (if such a thing exists im curious) an emo/goth website, the score would be higher... and an FNF character set was submitted to Newgrounds, the score was higher. if you mix and match those submissions the score is inherently lower than what could be achieved with the correct submission location, and it's on those grounds that I would not call it a no animation submission


I can see it's a gray area and attempting to give the gray area definition is to me... fruitless


I guess a good way to sum up the content of the discussion on my end is:

Is the content that you are flagging something that expressly brakes the rules

"I" believe that the contents of the video fall "well" within the range of:

If you want to try live action here, it must be a short film with legit production value

I can see though that your argument is based on the other half of the same rule

Our focus is on animation, and preferably some animation component done in post production


would I stand on a hill like I have done in the past for other animations/movies/submissions and defend the submission and be ready to die on my anthill for the principle of: If you want to try live action here, it must be a short film with legit production value

no I'm not going to go to bat for this particular submission, I think it's cool and pretty different, but it's not political or a spark event piece and while I think it's cool, it's not worth my time to defend its right to exist I'm only speaking about it because you had questions

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-08 02:03:26


the author admits to not owning the animation

Heyo! Nothing fancy, just a short sound edit I did for an animation by PlusBestia of Stagiselle's lovely OC Sylphine.

Sylphine Animation (Voiced)

adult https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849354


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-08 04:09:28


At 7/8/22 12:12 AM, tox wrote:@analpenguinfarming

here is one that is currently passing
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849026

this one gets close to the no animation rule because of the content being primarily about the robotic voice/audio
it only shy's away from me calling it because there are SMALL amounts of animation in the character on the screen...
this is really close for me, and I'm sure that if I were to ask @Exedor for the logs or reports on the uploader in relation to these submissions, for flags, I'm pretty sure that there are going to be a few other people calling this thing under a spam rule otherwise known to us as "no animation"

but it doesn't pass the line because there "is" animation here and it's not "expressly" something that could easily integrate somewhere else in the WWW.
but I mean it's close for me


Barely. There's a few backgrounds that are animated, both behind the static character portraits and behind the text (darkened), and even then those could be looped and recycled in 9 chapters, requiring very minimal effort.


The 'core' of that submission is the huge wall of text on the right, which contains all the story + writing. So it's pretty much a book. I'd still like to know what @Exedor thinks.


CS - Musician, animator, and nostalgia enthusiast since 2020.


- they/she

- My voice sucks, twice as much as usual

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-08 07:49:32


It is what it is. The flash made it through with a 3.15 score. I think I’m only going to be flagging painfully obvious content from now on because I don’t think I understand the system well enough yet.


Yea, I farm Anal Penguins. Do something about it.

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-08 09:31:31


Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-08 23:20:43


speed paint

Speedpaint- The Angel of War

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gameplay footage of a FNF game mod with a voice overlay to pretend they are singing ... the audio should be in the audio portal.... even if it would probably get blamed over there 

Friday night funkin D sides full week with lyrics

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admits to not owning that animation : this video is not my,this video belongs to rexdal suscribe him in youtube :)

madness Meme to be continued

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double submission

https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849463 delete this one


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-08 23:28:46 (edited 2022-07-08 23:29:49)


At 7/8/22 11:20 PM, tox wrote:speed paint
Speedpaint- The Angel of War
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849420

Flagged! Those aren't allowed


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gameplay footage of a FNF game mod with a voice overlay to pretend they are singing ... the audio should be in the audio portal.... even if it would probably get blamed over there 
Friday night funkin D sides full week with lyrics
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849421

The Audio Portal doesn't use a blam system.


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admits to not owning that animation : this video is not my,this video belongs to rexdal suscribe him in youtube :)
madness Meme to be continued
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849458

Flagged!

Original can be found here:


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double submission
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849457
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849463 delete this one

Those are different. The one you highlighted is the SWF. The first one is video. If anything, delete the video. SWF is superior.

Besides that, v0te. They'll most likely get blammed.


CS - Musician, animator, and nostalgia enthusiast since 2020.


- they/she

- My voice sucks, twice as much as usual

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-08 23:41:18


At 7/8/22 11:28 PM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 7/8/22 11:20 PM, tox wrote:


double submission
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849457
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849463 delete this one
Those are different. The one you highlighted is the SWF. The first one is video. If anything, delete the video. SWF is superior.
Besides that, v0te. They'll most likely get blammed.


vote fairly... that's your job as an Officer of the barracks. I had to say that to redmage the other day, I shouldn't have to tell you that



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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-09 00:01:40


At 7/8/22 11:20 PM, tox wrote:------
gameplay footage of a FNF game mod with a voice overlay to pretend they are singing ... the audio should be in the audio portal.... even if it would probably get blamed over there 
Friday night funkin D sides full week with lyrics
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849421
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Pretty sure this was uploaded once and removed by the mods in the past. Not sure if this is the correct link but this was what I had from my browsing history: https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/846950


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-09 00:05:22 (edited 2022-07-09 00:11:47)


At 7/9/22 12:01 AM, Pokemonpoeguygcn wrote:
At 7/8/22 11:20 PM, tox wrote:------
gameplay footage of a FNF game mod with a voice overlay to pretend they are singing ... the audio should be in the audio portal.... even if it would probably get blamed over there 
Friday night funkin D sides full week with lyrics
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849421
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Pretty sure this was uploaded once and removed by the mods in the past. Not sure if this is the correct link but this was what I had from my browsing history: https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/846950


Wayback Machine can confirm! Same author and everything!

Friday night funkin D side full week 1 with lyrics (archive.org)


CS - Musician, animator, and nostalgia enthusiast since 2020.


- they/she

- My voice sucks, twice as much as usual

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-09 00:06:26


At 7/8/22 11:41 PM, tox wrote:
At 7/8/22 11:28 PM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 7/8/22 11:20 PM, tox wrote:
double submission
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849457
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849463 delete this one
Those are different. The one you highlighted is the SWF. The first one is video. If anything, delete the video. SWF is superior.
Besides that, v0te. They'll most likely get blammed.


vote fairly... that's your job as an Officer of the barracks. I had to say that to redmage the other day, I shouldn't have to tell you that


Both movies have static images without animation and some TTS audio (derived from a meme). The closest thing to animation is the 'NECTAR' subtitle wiggles a bit, and the Spongebob flies sometimes misalign, but that's about it.


Who are you to tell us what to do?


CS - Musician, animator, and nostalgia enthusiast since 2020.


- they/she

- My voice sucks, twice as much as usual

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-09 00:07:34


At 7/9/22 12:01 AM, Pokemonpoeguygcn wrote:
At 7/8/22 11:20 PM, tox wrote:------
gameplay footage of a FNF game mod with a voice overlay to pretend they are singing ... the audio should be in the audio portal.... even if it would probably get blamed over there 
Friday night funkin D sides full week with lyrics
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849421
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Pretty sure this was uploaded once and removed by the mods in the past. Not sure if this is the correct link but this was what I had from my browsing history: https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/846950


I have seen a few of these types of voice-over things come and go,

I could also call it under a no animation idea under the idea that there is no original animation from the author in this case

@analpenguinfarming


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-09 00:15:42


At 7/9/22 12:06 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 7/8/22 11:41 PM, tox wrote:
At 7/8/22 11:28 PM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 7/8/22 11:20 PM, tox wrote:
Who are you to tell us what to do?


I don't take/understand your counter meaning?

you in this case are held to a code of conduct, you cant just view some animations and tell people to "v0te"


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-09 05:17:16


At 7/9/22 12:15 AM, tox wrote:
At 7/9/22 12:06 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 7/8/22 11:41 PM, tox wrote:
At 7/8/22 11:28 PM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 7/8/22 11:20 PM, tox wrote:
Who are you to tell us what to do?

I don't take/understand your counter meaning?
We are held to a code of conduct, you cant just view some animations and tell people to "v0te"


I think I understand what the two of you are getting at.

On the one hand, if something is 5 seconds long, poorly made and with no audio or just sounds terrible, to "v0te" is protecting the portal. That is part of our duty and it should be done using our judgement, which is why it's the judgement phase.

On the other hand, you can't just "0pen fire and sh00t" at everything, then tell everyone else to "v0te" the same. Trolling like this is unethical, against the EGB code of conduct, and is against the rules.


So just look at stuff and decide what star rating it should get by yourself, then rate it.

Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-09 09:47:48


if i didn't know any better this is just a stolen FNF game

Dave and Bambi Ultimate Edition


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-09 20:26:02


No animation


Original: https://twitter.com/KemoCamotli/status/1102016102542929923


Original artist is @whisperingfornothing

I can't find the original post but the reupload is visible on repost sites like the boorus


This was uploaded and removed in the past.

Old link from my browsing history: https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/848830


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