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The Elite Guard Barracks

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-04 18:18:06 (edited 2022-07-04 18:23:26)


At 7/4/22 03:54 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:Burning the American flag is illegal, so should we flag this one?

It's all animated. Sh0w dis n0n-American s0me l0ve.


At 7/4/22 05:45 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote:In my opinion no. They’re not posting a real American flag burning. It’s a cartoon interpretation.

Tru. See above th0.


At 7/4/22 06:00 PM, DoctorPac wrote:That's a really faulty reason for taking this down. I'd be more concerned about the copyrighted audio.

Tru dat. I figure it'll blam. I'll torpedo it if it doesn't.


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-04 19:44:39 (edited 2022-07-04 19:49:24)


At 7/4/22 06:18 PM, Exedor wrote:
At 7/4/22 03:54 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:Burning the American flag is illegal, so should we flag this one?
It's all animated. Sh0w dis n0n-American s0me l0ve.


just out of curiosity:

under what site rule will you take the video down under/torpedo it

and

what site rule would you flag it under

I don't see that animation breaking a site rule? Other than the US flag code (interesting read as a Canadian) BUT because it's an effigy wouldn't it fall under the free speech laws in this instance?


@DoctorStrongbad

@Exedor


under a technicality... https://www.newgrounds.com/ is registered as a Canadian website owned by an American multinational


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-04 20:27:20


At 7/4/22 07:44 PM, tox wrote:just out of curiosity:
under what site rule will you take the video down under/torpedo it

Music.

Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-04 20:36:01


At 7/4/22 08:27 PM, Exedor wrote:
At 7/4/22 07:44 PM, tox wrote:just out of curiosity:
under what site rule will you take the video down under/torpedo it
Music.


This guy fucks.


Yea, I farm Anal Penguins. Do something about it.

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-04 20:38:19 (edited 2022-07-04 20:38:55)


At 7/4/22 08:36 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote:This guy fucks.

Hopefully, he uses protection.

Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-04 20:39:56


At 7/4/22 08:38 PM, Exedor wrote:
At 7/4/22 08:36 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote:This guy fucks.
Hopefully, he uses protection.


To be honest it’s 2022 nobody does anymore so good luck. Nobody has used protection since the 90s.


Well, at least not me.


Yea, I farm Anal Penguins. Do something about it.

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-04 21:40:11



No animation just gameplay


Yea, I farm Anal Penguins. Do something about it.

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-04 21:47:42


At 7/4/22 09:40 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849001

No animation just gameplay


also it was an old youtube video from around 2013-2014


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-04 21:56:13


copyright on the music

Circus Baby - Walk Animation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIwCkQxIL58&ab_channel=Spinnin%27Records

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no animation

P-p.. puppies???

adult https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/848988

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copyright music

bang bang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFoFN9Sbk2w&ab_channel=KnaanVEVO


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-04 23:09:05


At 7/4/22 03:54 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:don't wanna be an american (newgrounds.com)

Question about this one.

Burning the American flag is illegal, so should we flag this one?


Burning the flag is not illegal what the fuck are you talking about

Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-04 23:30:51 (edited 2022-07-04 23:31:16)


At 7/4/22 11:09 PM, GUTHRIE wrote:
At 7/4/22 03:54 PM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:don't wanna be an american (newgrounds.com)

Question about this one.

Burning the American flag is illegal, so should we flag this one?

Burning the flag is not illegal what the fuck are you talking about


Yes we should flag this, not for burning the American flag, but for using an edited version of 'American Idiot' by Green Day


Also here's the submission again


CS - Musician, animator, and nostalgia enthusiast since 2020.


- they/she

- My voice sucks, twice as much as usual

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-05 00:06:38 (edited 2022-07-05 00:14:27)


https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/848963


I do not think that we should flag this submission

  1. the length of time that the song plays is too short to *legitimately* be considered against the rules
  2. the implications of the user going outwards into the net and then getting other outlets on us/Newgrounds for the forceful removal of this specific content could be a powder keg that would be far more detrimental than allowing it to exist and fade into the background


the ONLY standing point that I can say in favor of removal is that shazam is able to pick up what song it is within the 5 seconds... and if a robot can pick up what it is inside of a 5-second clip... then there is grounds to remove because there is enough to be recognized


but the content, usage of the song and idea presented, I believe for a few reasons that it should remain up


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-05 00:59:48


At 7/5/22 12:06 AM, tox wrote:
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/848963

I do not think that we should flag this submission

the ONLY standing point that I can say in favor of removal is that shazam is able to pick up what song it is within the 5 seconds... and if a robot can pick up what it is inside of a 5-second clip... then there is grounds to remove because there is enough to be recognized

but the content, usage of the song and idea presented, I believe for a few reasons that it should remain up


> The length of time that the song plays is too short to *legitimately* be considered against the rules


In the Movie Guidelines, there's this rule:

You must credit and have rights to the music in your submission, or be using music that grants rights freely. Your favorite song from the radio can't be played here.

Where does it mention the length of time or the percentage of the song used?


In addition there's this section that shows up on Under Judgement movies/games.

"If you believe this submission contains unlicensed music (for example, a song from the radio), please flag it as such! Newgrounds is unable to host this sort of material and it puts us at risk."


> the implications of the user going outwards into the net and then getting other outlets on us/Newgrounds for the forceful removal of this specific content could be a powder keg that would be far more detrimental than allowing it to exist and fade into the background

Are you trying to say that removing stuff with unlicensed music would lose us traffic? You should probably word that better / touch up on that in better detail because I have no idea what you're trying to describe here.


I think what you're going for is that the burning flags animation is (or should be) protected under fair use, which has four main factors:

1. the purpose | 2. the nature | 3. the amount of work used | and 4. the effect on the work used.


That animation uses 12 seconds of 'American Idiot' but the author transformed it a little to change the words / meaning, and it's also not used commercially, so fair use could apply.


Unfortunately, companies can and will twist or ignore fair use and will still try to get stuff taken down regardless. Unlike YouTube, which has enough resources to be able to settle such claims, Newgrounds cannot, so fair use is ignored here so that there's zero chance of any legal shenanigans.


Better safe than sorry!

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CS - Musician, animator, and nostalgia enthusiast since 2020.


- they/she

- My voice sucks, twice as much as usual

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-05 01:12:17 (edited 2022-07-05 01:14:03)


At 7/5/22 12:59 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 7/5/22 12:06 AM, tox wrote:
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/848963

I do not think that we should flag this submission

the ONLY standing point that I can say in favor of removal is that shazam is able to pick up what song it is within the 5 seconds... and if a robot can pick up what it is inside of a 5-second clip... then there is grounds to remove because there is enough to be recognized

but the content, usage of the song and idea presented, I believe for a few reasons that it should remain up

> The length of time that the song plays is too short to *legitimately* be considered against the rules

In the Movie Guidelines, there's this rule:
Where does it mention the length of time or the percentage of the song used?

In addition there's this section that shows up on Under Judgement movies/games.
"If you believe this submission contains unlicensed music (for example, a song from the radio), please flag it as such! Newgrounds is unable to host this sort of material and it puts us at risk."

> the implications of the user going outwards into the net and then getting other outlets on us/Newgrounds for the forceful removal of this specific content could be a powder keg that would be far more detrimental than allowing it to exist and fade into the background
Are you trying to say that removing stuff with unlicensed music would lose us traffic? You should probably word that better / touch up on that in better detail because I have no idea what you're trying to describe here.

I think what you're going for is that the burning flags animation is (or should be) protected under fair use, which has four main factors:
1. the purpose | 2. the nature | 3. the amount of work used | and 4. the effect on the work used.

That animation uses 12 seconds of 'American Idiot' but the author transformed it a little to change the words / meaning, and it's also not used commercially, so fair use could apply.

Unfortunately, companies can and will twist or ignore fair use and will still try to get stuff taken down regardless. Unlike YouTube, which has enough resources to be able to settle such claims, Newgrounds cannot, so fair use is ignored here so that there's zero chance of any legal shenanigans.

Better safe than sorry!


Nah my dude...

what I'm worried about is this person going out to a vast number of places that are literally burning with hate and emotion over the Roe v Wade case that is the center point of the animation... and saying that the guys over on Newgrounds must support the court's decision because:


"I can't upload a video of me saying fuck all this American shit inside of their bastion of OBVIOUSLY republican/pro-life-ultra conservative/church supporting filth, and they pulled it over a 5-second audio clip of copyright infringement WHILE they allow other MUCH longer audio clips to pass... I was targeted... they are bigots... Newgrounds is a bastion of hate"


shit could go RIGHT sideways for a ton of reasons...


I'm just reading the room right now because I don't want to be anywhere near a spark event


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-05 01:48:47


At 7/5/22 01:12 AM, tox wrote:
At 7/5/22 12:59 AM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 7/5/22 12:06 AM, tox wrote:
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/848963

I do not think that we should flag this submission

the ONLY standing point that I can say in favor of removal is that shazam is able to pick up what song it is within the 5 seconds... and if a robot can pick up what it is inside of a 5-second clip... then there is grounds to remove because there is enough to be recognized

but the content, usage of the song and idea presented, I believe for a few reasons that it should remain up

> The length of time that the song plays is too short to *legitimately* be considered against the rules

In the Movie Guidelines, there's this rule:
Where does it mention the length of time or the percentage of the song used?

In addition there's this section that shows up on Under Judgement movies/games.
"If you believe this submission contains unlicensed music (for example, a song from the radio), please flag it as such! Newgrounds is unable to host this sort of material and it puts us at risk."

> the implications of the user going outwards into the net and then getting other outlets on us/Newgrounds for the forceful removal of this specific content could be a powder keg that would be far more detrimental than allowing it to exist and fade into the background
Are you trying to say that removing stuff with unlicensed music would lose us traffic? You should probably word that better / touch up on that in better detail because I have no idea what you're trying to describe here.

I think what you're going for is that the burning flags animation is (or should be) protected under fair use, which has four main factors:
1. the purpose | 2. the nature | 3. the amount of work used | and 4. the effect on the work used.

That animation uses 12 seconds of 'American Idiot' but the author transformed it a little to change the words / meaning, and it's also not used commercially, so fair use could apply.

Unfortunately, companies can and will twist or ignore fair use and will still try to get stuff taken down regardless. Unlike YouTube, which has enough resources to be able to settle such claims, Newgrounds cannot, so fair use is ignored here so that there's zero chance of any legal shenanigans.

Better safe than sorry!

Nah my dude...
what I'm worried about is this person going out to a vast number of places that are literally burning with hate and emotion over the Roe v Wade case that is the center point of the animation... and saying that the guys over on Newgrounds must support the court's decision because:

"I can't upload a video of me saying fuck all this American shit inside of their bastion of OBVIOUSLY republican/pro-life-ultra conservative/church supporting filth, and they pulled it over a 5-second audio clip of copyright infringement WHILE they allow other MUCH longer audio clips to pass... I was targeted... they are bigots... Newgrounds is a bastion of hate"

shit could go RIGHT sideways for a ton of reasons...

I'm just reading the room right now because I don't want to be anywhere near a spark event


Then let them complain all they want.

Knowing this user, I doubt they'll complain that fuckin' hard and even if they do, it won't reach any more than 20 people in my opinion.


CS - Musician, animator, and nostalgia enthusiast since 2020.


- they/she

- My voice sucks, twice as much as usual

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-05 12:33:26


Uploads of the same game from two different accounts:


Looks like it's from Scratch, but I can't find the original so I can't verify if this was stolen or not. There's too many games on Scratch titled with some variation of "Minecraft Survival" and the game doesn't have much identifiers for me to narrow down my search.

Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-05 13:46:41


I saw an IllWillPress Foamy video pop up in the portal and I was 100% ready to flag it. I did not know that dude was still making flashes! I remember watching those originals like 18 years ago.


Yea, I farm Anal Penguins. Do something about it.

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-05 20:37:51


At 7/5/22 01:46 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote:I saw an IllWillPress Foamy video pop up in the portal and I was 100% ready to flag it. I did not know that dude was still making flashes! I remember watching those originals like 18 years ago.


Whoah woah hang on. IllWillPress? As much as he's been infamously low-effort, he's at least been able to abide by the rules. What are you flaggin' him for?


CS - Musician, animator, and nostalgia enthusiast since 2020.


- they/she

- My voice sucks, twice as much as usual

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-05 21:04:27


At 7/5/22 08:37 PM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 7/5/22 01:46 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote:I saw an IllWillPress Foamy video pop up in the portal and I was 100% ready to flag it. I did not know that dude was still making flashes! I remember watching those originals like 18 years ago.

And you still can with Ruffle.


Whoah woah hang on. IllWillPress? As much as he's been infamously low-effort, he's at least been able to abide by the rules. What are you flaggin' him for?


Probably because that voice of Foamy sounds like what you'd get if Alvin and the Chipmunks got combined with Chip and Dale?


Better off to flag this instead: https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849131

Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-05 21:11:07


At 7/5/22 12:33 PM, Mikoma wrote:Uploads of the same game from two different accounts:
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849068
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849069

Looks like it's from Scratch, but I can't find the original so I can't verify if this was stolen or not. There's too many games on Scratch titled with some variation of "Minecraft Survival" and the game doesn't have much identifiers for me to narrow down my search.


I flagged Gneo777's version, which was uploaded 15 minutes apart from the older DiegoGamerNeon version.


CS - Musician, animator, and nostalgia enthusiast since 2020.


- they/she

- My voice sucks, twice as much as usual

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-05 22:33:14


BFDIA 5b (newgrounds.com)


Admits he is not the author.


I have a PhD in Troll Physics

Top Medal points user list. I am number 12

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-05 22:46:55


At 7/5/22 08:37 PM, Anonymous-Frog wrote:
At 7/5/22 01:46 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote:I saw an IllWillPress Foamy video pop up in the portal and I was 100% ready to flag it. I did not know that dude was still making flashes! I remember watching those originals like 18 years ago.

Whoah woah hang on. IllWillPress? As much as he's been infamously low-effort, he's at least been able to abide by the rules. What are you flaggin' him for?


I think I was misunderstood in what I’m saying. I thought it was stolen because I didn’t know he was still making flash content. It’s been 18 years from him. So that’s what I was saying. I didn’t know the flash actually came from him.


Yea, I farm Anal Penguins. Do something about it.

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-06 00:48:18


Cheese (newgrounds.com)


Slide show about cheese.


I have a PhD in Troll Physics

Top Medal points user list. I am number 12

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-06 07:04:33 (edited 2022-07-06 07:04:54)


At 7/6/22 12:48 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:Cheese (newgrounds.com)

Slide show about cheese.


We need more cheese slideshows on Newgrounds though.


(doc·tor pack)

"Nixon had powers including, but not limited to: telekinesis, super speed, superhuman strength, invisibility, and mind control."

Youtube

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-06 13:42:59


No animation - Geometry Dash gameplay


No animation - Text messaging footage


No animation - Live action toy showcase


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-06 15:16:28


E.B's Cast (newgrounds.com)


It's a religious theme puppet show. So, no animation?


I have a PhD in Troll Physics

Top Medal points user list. I am number 12

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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-06 20:20:16


At 7/6/22 01:42 PM, Pokemonpoeguygcn wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849128
No animation - Text messaging footage

no animation, just a text convo/RP between a few or 2 people... not sure how it works... it's not animation



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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-06 20:29:55


no animation, just a video of a Carousel lamp thing

New York lamp


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-06 21:51:42


speed painting video

A sneak peak into my new art project ;)


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Response to The Elite Guard Barracks 2022-07-07 01:13:31 (edited 2022-07-07 01:14:06)


At 7/6/22 08:20 PM, tox wrote:
At 7/6/22 01:42 PM, Pokemonpoeguygcn wrote:https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/849128
No animation - Text messaging footage
no animation, just a text convo/RP between a few or 2 people... not sure how it works... it's not animation


It's not a real text message screen capture. notice the website at the very top of the screen? It's an app where users can write a story, just in the form of text message appearance:


D: Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.


L: He told me enough.

L: He told me you killed him.


D: Nope. I am your father.


L: ...dafuq?

L: wtf?!

L: OMG

L: X_x