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Hanoi Forever.
A poor-quality submission which was simply deleted then re-uploaded in the hopes of obtaining a better rating.
Original was here.
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I asked and @NekoMika said to report it and post in this thread.
At 2/27/17 12:04 AM, NeonSpider wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/688683
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Hanoi Forever.
A poor-quality submission which was simply deleted then re-uploaded in the hopes of obtaining a better rating.
Original was here.
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http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/687712
I asked and @NekoMika said to report it and post in this thread.
It seems the user removed it themselves and submitted the newer version with medals and some music.
A lot of users think the game doesn't work, but it does. I wish the author would put instructions on how to move the disks, though.
I don't see anything wrong with this, since what they added to the game wasn't much, but it still counts as improvement. Also, I don't think the author was trying to resubmit their game to obtain a higher score. I think they were just trying to improve their game a bit, since a lot of people were complaining about the old version.
It's all shits and giggles until someone giggles and shits.
At 2/27/17 10:37 PM, NekoMika wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/689542
@DeftonesFan665, someone impersonating theodd1scout.
Took care of it. Thanks for the report, Neko.
It's all shits and giggles until someone giggles and shits.
Why is this acceptable? Can I get an expert clarification on this one?
At 2/28/17 02:44 AM, Makakaov wrote: Why is this acceptable? Can I get an expert clarification on this one?
When you're reporting something here, you need to elaborate on what you think the issue is. I think I know the problem you're having with those submissions, but I want you to clarify what you think the problem is so I can understand where you're coming from.
It's all shits and giggles until someone giggles and shits.
At 2/28/17 03:28 AM, DeftonesFan665 wrote:At 2/28/17 02:44 AM, Makakaov wrote: Why is this acceptable? Can I get an expert clarification on this one?When you're reporting something here, you need to elaborate on what you think the issue is. I think I know the problem you're having with those submissions, but I want you to clarify what you think the problem is so I can understand where you're coming from.
Fair enough. While I don't think I should be the key factor, over things like common sense for example, that tells you that there's something wrong with those submissions.
It's clear that all those subs are just one game with only cosmetic changes. I think publishing series of games based on the same mechanic is debatable - some sequels in series like crush the castle or dark cut, while using the same mechanic were either a reasonable extension of the gameplay, or a similiar, decent game.
Here, however, we're dealing with series of exact clones of game that appeared here originally almost 2 years ago. I do believe it actually can and should be called cookie cutter game at this point. Every next edition of this game is as original and creative as those "dress up" games, or Bejeweled clones.
I understand the game mechanic itself is not as boring and simple as the one in dress up games, but it doesn't change the fact, that it's just another attack of clones, and I have strong reason to believe that the producer doesn't write the code from scratch everytime he makes another one of those games, so it's most probably reusing a template to fill the site with number of clones of the same submission, just with different graphics and names.
Musicians make music , producers make products. * drops mic :D
At 2/28/17 03:43 AM, Makakaov wrote: It's clear that all those subs are just one game with only cosmetic changes.
Ah, welcome to games submission 101, 2016 ver!
Here, however, we're dealing with series of exact clones of game that appeared here originally almost 2 years ago. I do believe it actually can and should be called cookie cutter game at this point. Every next edition of this game is as original and creative as those "dress up" games, or Bejeweled clones.
In some ways, true. However, these do take more work than the various clones out there, and they are still fun. As time goes on, these might enter the realm where we will need to request some improvements and upgrades and originality. However, this guy's the only one who seems to be making these, so we're not inundated with a new one every day or two, so they're still acceptable.
At 2/28/17 03:43 AM, Makakaov wrote:At 2/28/17 03:28 AM, DeftonesFan665 wrote:It's clear that all those subs are just one game with only cosmetic changes. I think publishing series of games based on the same mechanic is debatable - some sequels in series like crush the castle or dark cut, while using the same mechanic were either a reasonable extension of the gameplay, or a similiar, decent game.At 2/28/17 02:44 AM, Makakaov wrote: Why is this acceptable? Can I get an expert clarification on this one?When you're reporting something here, you need to elaborate on what you think the issue is. I think I know the problem you're having with those submissions, but I want you to clarify what you think the problem is so I can understand where you're coming from.
Here, however, we're dealing with series of exact clones of game that appeared here originally almost 2 years ago. I do believe it actually can and should be called cookie cutter game at this point. Every next edition of this game is as original and creative as those "dress up" games, or Bejeweled clones.
I understand the game mechanic itself is not as boring and simple as the one in dress up games, but it doesn't change the fact, that it's just another attack of clones, and I have strong reason to believe that the producer doesn't write the code from scratch everytime he makes another one of those games, so it's most probably reusing a template to fill the site with number of clones of the same submission, just with different graphics and names.
That's what I thought the issue was, but I just wanted to make sure.
Anyways, while you think the Shop Empire games you reported are basically cookie cutter/shovelware games, they're not QUITE that. Sure, they have a lot of similarities, since they're a series of games, but it's not like the author is submitting the same game over and over each day or every other day.
With each new Shop Empire game that this author submits, sure it's the same kind of concept, but each game has it's own unique idea. When the mods and staff qualify someone as a shovelware submitter or spammer, it's because they upload basically the same game every day or every other day.
For example, if a user is submitting one to two escape games every day or every other day that have really no difference to them, those are shovelware submitters. I wouldn't consider LittleGiantWorld to be a shovelware submitter/spammer, since every Shop Empire game they have submitted, except for the last two, have been submitted at least a year apart. They're not trying to spam Newgrounds with a certain type of game or anything and that's a big part of classifying a user as a shovelware submitter or spammer.
With that being said, there's really no reason to take any action against LittleGiantWorld right now. However, if they start submitting several Shop Empire games or another type of game in the future very frequently with no real effort put into them, then action will be taken.
It's all shits and giggles until someone giggles and shits.
At 2/28/17 04:28 AM, DeftonesFan665 wrote: Shovelware
Also, @Exedor
I guess I understand your point. Frequency, or "shovelware" issue was never my concern. I understand that nowadays every bigger submission here counts, since it's source of ads money, but the idea of justifying a cookie cutter because it's not fucking you to death with high frequency of appearance on portal was just over me until this conversation. Thanks for clearing things up for me.
I'm not mad or try to be passive-agressive, I just don't know how to paraphrase it to sound polite.
At 2/28/17 05:37 AM, Makakaov wrote: I'm not mad or try to be passive-agressive, I just don't know how to paraphrase it to sound polite.
It's actually nice to see someone asking questions re: submissions rather than just assuming stuff.
Barracks Roster as of March 1st, 2017:
Welcome to almost spring-summer-winter! Not sure how the weather has been on the other side of the pond, but here in the northeastern US we've managed to make all of the weather models break down and huddle whimpering in a corner. One day it's 40 and breezy; two days later it's 65 and springlike, then the next day snow showers and ice, then back to the 40's. Looks like someone is screwing around with the HAARP system again. Now I know what it was like living on the Genesis Planet just before it exploded. (KHAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN!)
But I digress. Last month was quiet for overall BP points, but we had a lot of activity in the forum over countless crap flashes. Our intrepid crew of mods and members kept them all at bay, and they do it well, especially EGS EDM364, EGSC Exedor, EGSC DeftonesFan665 and EGSC GameJunkie. Thank you all for a job well done *SALUTES*
There was also some activity from some dormant members (EGSC GameJunkie and EGSFC ZJ) , and I'm glad to see them back in the saddle again! Also saw a lot of new names in the EGB Forum - maybe some potentials for new members?
Speaking of dormant - I have been contemplating cleaning up the roster and moving some members to inactive status (which will shorten the active roster and affect active ranking). Based on no activity for the past 12 months, there are 12-15 members that would drop off (some of which I know are never coming back). I can always reactivate them if they return.
What do you all think? Should I clean it up - or leave it be? Please let me know.
Anyways, back to the roster:
Milestones::
byteslinger - 116K saves, 132K total B/P
DefTonesFan665 - 31K total B/P
ZJ - 8K total B/P
Promotions::
ZJ - Sgt. First Class
The Roster:
No. B/P / Gain / Average / Level / Change / Username / Rank / Posts / Level
01) 132,109 | 0,762 | 27.21 | B | +001.33 | byteslinger Sup. Commander | 9 | C
02) 130,281 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | Coop Sup. Commander | 0 | F
03) 83,483 | 0,146 | 05.21 | C | +121.21 | GameJunkie Sup. Commander | 10 | C
04) 80,295 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | Phantom Sup. Commander | 0 | F
05) 66,749 | 0,101 | 03.61 | D | -036.08 | Jolly Sup. Commander | 1 | D
06) 60,281 | 0,190 | 06.79 | C | +004.97 | Exedor Sup. Commander | 25 | B
07) 56,964 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | Little-Rena Sup. Commander | 0 | F
08) 52,653 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | EagleRock Sup. Commander | 0 | F
09) 43,206 | 0,133 | 04.75 | D | -045.49 | Asandir Sup. Commander | 1 | D
10) 36,654 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | Cootie Sup. Commander | 0 | F
11) 31,607 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | RohantheBarbarian Sup. Commander | 0 | F
12) 31,322 | 0,369 | 13.18 | C | -015.17 | DefTonesFan665 Sup. Commander | 19 | B
13) 30,384 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | idiot-buster Sup. Commander | 0 | F
14) 27,532 | 0,134 | 04.79 | D | -038.81 | Decky Commander | 3 | D
15) 25,186 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | Gimmick General | 0 | F
16) 14,335 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | Chrausner Captain | 0 | F
17) 10,070 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | SeeD419 Sgt. Major | 0 | F
18) 8,013 | 0,016 | 00.57 | D | +500.00 | ZJ Sgt. First Class | 0 | F
19) 7,409 | 0,083 | 02.96 | D | -071.28 | Jackho Master Sergeant +1 | 1 | D
20) 7,403 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | phantomlassuk Master Sergeant -1 | 0 | F
21) 6,697 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | HeavenDuff Staff Sergeant | 0 | F
22) 6,562 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | Ronald-McDonald-Lol Staff Sergeant | 0 | F
23) 6,415 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | SpiffyMasta Staff Sergeant | 0 | F
24) 6,357 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | -100.00 | BenwaHakubi Staff Sergeant | 0 | F
25) 5,266 | 0,070 | 02.50 | D | +002.94 | EDM364 Sergeant | 30 | A
26) 3,968 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | Sectus Pvt. First Class | 0 | F
27) 2,729 | 0,000 | 00.00 | F | +000.00 | ForNoReason Private | 0 | F
Top 5 Gainers::
byteslinger - 762 (38.02% of total)
DefTonesFan665 - 369 (18.41% of total)
Exedor - 190 (9.48% of total)
GameJunkie - 146 (7.29% of total)
Decky - 134 (6.69% of total)
Top 5 users accounted for 79.89% of B/P points (1,601 total)
Top gainers, repeat appearances::
byteslinger (49)
DefTonesFan665 (39)
Decky (4)
Total gain for month: 2,004 (10 Active Members)
That's 71.57 per day, or 7.16 per day per active member.
At 3/1/17 11:19 AM, byteslinger wrote: Barracks Roster as of March 1st, 2017:
Whoo, another month gone by. Sorry to say I dropped off for around 7 days of it B/P-wise. Much better than past months. Am still overdue for some other projects like my wheneverly mod-diary podcasts for the AP side of things. RL has been busy every weekend with my fiancee and every Tuesday for creator's club.
But I digress. Last month was quiet for overall BP points, but we had a lot of activity in the forum over countless crap flashes. Our intrepid crew of mods and members kept them all at bay, and they do it well, especially EGS EDM364, EGSC Exedor, EGSC DeftonesFan665 and EGSC GameJunkie. Thank you all for a job well done *SALUTES*
*Salutes* Yes, yes, it was a good month for blams, at least. Reminded me of '06 with the relative speed of submissions and frequency of shit submitters. Thanks for the mention. I really didn't think I did all that well this month!
maybe some potentials for new members?
I still think the ROTC is a good idea, considering the PD is totally defunct and we have users interested in the EGB still.
What do you all think? Should I clean it up - or leave it be? Please let me know.
That sounds fair. Maybe change up the formatting in the header just slightly while we're at it, and add @ mentions to users in the roster. It's a bit hard to read with the spaces in the header and "Username" extending it to the point my eyes aren't wanting to make the connection between columns. Overall, good roster this month, and good mileage it looks like.
Total gain for month: 2,004 (10 Active Members)
That's 71.57 per day, or 7.16 per day per active member.
Now that's something I can salute to, considering the slim pickings this month.
*Salutes*
Also, do you have any plans to update NG Log? I know I keep asking, but the lack of inclusion of Art Reviews in the counts when I Jack In on there drives me crazy!
Speaking of things driving me crazy, Geometry Dash spam has graduated to the movie portal. What has the world come to?
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Unpublished Submission
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At 3/1/17 06:59 PM, EDM364 wrote: I still think the ROTC is a good idea, considering the PD is totally defunct and we have users interested in the EGB still.
I think I'll start drafting the ROTC addendum - and then let you all review it and help me tune it before it goes live.
What do you all think? Should I clean it up - or leave it be? Please let me know.That sounds fair. Maybe change up the formatting in the header just slightly while we're at it, and add @ mentions to users in the roster. It's a bit hard to read with the spaces in the header and "Username" extending it to the point my eyes aren't wanting to make the connection between columns. Overall, good roster this month, and good mileage it looks like.
Yeah, it's crappy. I can't set up "divs" or "tables" to clean it up; however, you can always check out the current and previous rosters at The EGB Stat Site . It's formatted nicer, and it also generates the rough text for the monthly roster posts.
Also, do you have any plans to update NG Log? I know I keep asking, but the lack of inclusion of Art Reviews in the counts when I Jack In on there drives me crazy!
I am currently working on a project to merge NG Logs with my other site, NG Stats . The stats site needs a lot more functionality added, such as a quick search for a user, the ability to log stats on demand (right now, everyone's stats are captured semi-automatically the last day of every month), and merging NG Stat reports / graphs into the site. When you visit the site, click on "Users", find your name (yes, the list has 3000+ entries), and click on it - your latest stats will be shown ( see here ) - and you can then select prior month's stats. I plan on making the site "responsive" via Bootstrap as well. All ideas are welcome!
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Would assume just a single screenshot with music in the background for five minutes doesn't belong. Audio Portal maybe, if it's even his music
A music video that shows only one picture:
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At 3/2/17 06:21 PM, MchectorII wrote: A music video that shows only one picture:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/689672
Which was also stolen. Thanks for the report. Removed.
It's all shits and giggles until someone giggles and shits.
this game that made with construct 2 showing only white screen after the construct 2 logo loading game, does that happens with you too?
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This is a game that stole a lot of music and sounds from a fangame called Super Mario Flashback.
The game:
Super Mario Flashback, if you want to play it for proof:
I couldn't get too far but it stole like 6 or 7 tracks from the game.
So this guy, CaliberProductions, uploaded a game he did not make. This is the game in question.
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The author is called "warfame", but here's the thing. The link below is the original game. You can clearly see in the project comments that the author gave CaliberProductions the permission to post his game onto Caliber's newgrounds.
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/65568156/
Caliber even credited the author into the game's description, as you can see in the first link. All evidence is in the links. However, shouldn't this be violating the Newgrounds rules anyway? I read you should be the creator of the game you make if you are posting it to your NG profile. I don't know too well how this works though.
Got ourselves a shovelware submitter today, 2 submissions in UJ with the same engine and overall point pretty much, just reskinned with different BGM, it seems. Dinosaurs and robot dinosaurs, for kids. Sound familiar?
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I wonder if this guy :
http://sds1161.newgrounds.com/movies/
And this guy :
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrqiO3UH77TidwkeXyKZPeQ/videos
Are indeed the same person.
Or a single person at all.
Musicians make music , producers make products. * drops mic :D
An old(and edited) video from television:
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At 3/10/17 04:18 AM, LexaHergon wrote: I wonder if this guy :
http://sds1161.newgrounds.com/movies/
And this guy :
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrqiO3UH77TidwkeXyKZPeQ/videos
Are indeed the same person.
Or a single person at all.
Tis possible, I suppose. But there are several accounts that are actually 'team' accounts. While one-person accounts are the preferred way of doing things, unless they're stealing or being a nuisance, then they're ok.
At 3/11/17 11:02 PM, MchectorII wrote: An old(and edited) video from television:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/690112
Ah, we know what to do with such rubbish. Gone. :)
At 3/11/17 11:02 PM, MchectorII wrote: An old(and edited) video from television:Ah, we know what to do with such rubbish. Gone. :)
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/690112
A music 'video' that shows only a picture:
Gameplay recording:
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This submission contains age-rated material and requires an account to view.
Not only is this one shovelware, I get stuck on a loading screen after I click the play button:
At 3/13/17 09:21 AM, Nimhster2 wrote: Gameplay recording:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/690071
This one is actually okay, since it's gameplay footage of a game that the author created/is in the process of making.
Not only is this one shovelware, I get stuck on a loading screen after I click the play button:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/690187
I removed it and PM'ed the author. It fails to load for me as well. I even tried a couple of different browsers.
It's all shits and giggles until someone giggles and shits.
Stolen/freebooted clone of Fruit Ninja:
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Definitely not the first iteration of this game. Maybe they added that weird intro and the music but I doubt it.
Here's a copy of Veg Ninja that was released in 2013: http://www.moddb.com/games/veg-ninja
At 3/13/17 09:21 PM, GUTHRIE wrote: Stolen/freebooted clone of Fruit Ninja:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/690217
Definitely not the first iteration of this game. Maybe they added that weird intro and the music but I doubt it.
Here's a copy of Veg Ninja that was released in 2013: http://www.moddb.com/games/veg-ninja
100% agreed and gone.
