At 2/18/10 09:46 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote: My laptop kept restarting without warning lately, and believing that it was nothing I just went along with it. I didn't have any viruses or other malicious content, so I just don't know at the moment.

Sounds like a thermal issue - the mobo or cpu is getting too hot, and she's rebooting at random times. Try ti get some canned air and blow out as much dust as you can from the inside out. Does the bottom of your laptop get uncomfortably warm? It could also be the battery overheating.

After you spray out the dust, remove the battery pack and try running it on wall-power only. See if it lasts longer between boots. If it does, it's the battery overheating. If it make no difference, it could be thermal fade and failure.

What make & model is your laptop, and about how old is it? Let me know so i can research other possible failures (and fixed).

Good luck!
*Salutes*

Who here knows where I can get a cheap car?

I'm so desperate, I'll even ask you guys.

At 2/18/10 10:07 PM, byteslinger wrote:

At 2/18/10 09:46 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote:

Thanks for the advice, byte, and yeah it was getting warm often. The thing is, I took it apart one day and after I put it back together it started getting much warmer much faster than before I opened it up. I switched nothing around and changed no settings, but it still was never the same after that.

What make & model is your laptop, and about how old is it? Let me know so i can research other possible failures (and fixed).

It's a 2 year old Compaq Presario 4700.

Good luck!
*Salutes*

Thanks! *salutes*

At 2/18/10 10:30 PM, puddinN64 wrote: Who here knows where I can get a cheap car?

I'm so desperate, I'll even ask you guys.

Buy a '83 Yugo - I hear they're REALLY cheap.

Okay, bad Idea. I would look in Craig's List - search for cars in your city / county. But remember - you get what you pay for. What's your budget? Are you working? Car dealers are desperate - if you have a job and are over 18, you might find that you can lease a small car (Hyundai, Toyota, etc) for about $150 / month.

Hope this helps! ;)

At 2/18/10 10:44 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote:

At 2/18/10 10:07 PM, byteslinger wrote:

At 2/18/10 09:46 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote:

Thanks for the advice, byte, and yeah it was getting warm often. The thing is, I took it apart one day and after I put it back together it started getting much warmer much faster than before I opened it up. I switched nothing around and changed no settings, but it still was never the same after that.

Chances are when you disassembled it you didn't reconnect everything. It is possible you didn't reconnect a fan cable or something like that. Also, to make sure your hard drive is not actually failing, hold your ear close to where the hard drive is and listen for clicks. Regular clicking sounds indicate constant parking of the hard drive, which is a sign of imminent failure.

Best thing to do for now is to keep the machine running cool. If you have one readily available, a laptop chill pad works well. Short of that, just keep it off your lap or any soft surface like a sofa or a bed. You might need to re-disassemble the laptop and check connections to the cooling system.

It's a 2 year old Compaq Presario 4700.

I was looking for a disassembly manual for that model, but I haven't found anything. Are you sure that's the exact model? I've seen 8-year old 4700 laptops and a few 4700 desktops. if you have a full model number or something, it might point us in the right direction.

We'll figure this out one way or another. :-)

Just out of curiosity are the cooling fans on the bottom and the battery acts as an incline, so to speak, that all the heat escapes out the sides and up? That's what mine does. It's a DELL studio 1735.

At 2/19/10 04:05 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Just out of curiosity are the cooling fans on the bottom and the battery acts as an incline, so to speak, that all the heat escapes out the sides and up? That's what mine does. It's a DELL studio 1735.

Well, usually, laptops are not dependent on a battery to create air flow. usually if a battery sticks out or causes a laptop to sit on an incline, it is because it is an oversized battery for extended life. Without an extension, 99% of the time the battery will sit flush with the rest of the chassis. In that case, fans that blow underneath the case are usually deflected out to the side via directional scoops. Also, a laptop usually has rubber feet that are designed to give the laptop enough standoff to provide a cooling space of air beneath the laptop.

Usually, two things will disrupt that necessary airflow: the rubber feet come off the bottom of the laptop, or someone sits the laptop down on a soft surface, such as a bed, a couch, or a pillow. In those situations, the laptop will easily overheat, as the laptop warms up the surface it is on which in turn makes the laptop run hotter. Additionally, bottom-venting fans have nowhere to push the hot air from the processor. All of this makes for a very toasty laptop, which usually trips the processor's thermal cutoff switch.

Luckily, most laptop manufacturers today use a side-venting CPU heatsink, which blows heat away from the CPU through the side or the back of the laptop, not the bottom. This is generally better, as even a laptop sitting on a bed has a method of pulling away the CPU heat.

Like I said before, his best course of action right now is to keep the laptop cool for the time being until we can figure out his exact model and see how we can get his machine running cooler. It could even be as simple as using canned air to blow dust out of his heatsink fins.

Following up on this laptop discussion:

First, thank you, EagleRock, for adding some fine ideas and insight to mine. Good to know that we can tag-team these hardware issues from all sides. You do bring up some important points.

Now, I did some digging around, and I can't find any specifically reported problems for that Presario - no recalls or reported issues of known failures.

That being said, and after reading all of these posts, IMHO this is what I would do if it were my laptop:

1) Carefully re-open it and check all the connections. It's possible that the fan wires are loose and no longer working

2) Use canned air to blow all the dust and crud off all the heat sinks, vents and any place that the air would flow.

3) If possible, start the unit up while partially disassembled just to see if the fans spin. This way, if they don't, you'll know right away, and you can then order a replacement one ASAP

4) Once all the fans are verified and working, carefully re-assemble it - and then check the feet and the clearance underneath it. Right now, although I am sitting on my couch, my laptop is on a piece of finished laminate board (about 18" x 24") so that I don't block the vents.

5) If the laptop still overheats after that, I would recommend the Belkin Laptop cooling base - it fits units up to 17", and draws power from the USB port. It has two fans in the base, forcing air up into the laptop. I use one with (oddly enough) my own Compaq laptop - it does help quite a bit.

I know some of this had been bantered around before, but I figured I'd put this checklist together just to get a gameplan started.

So, grab that screwdriver and get to work. Hopefully, you'll have this fixed in no time!

Good luck!

*Salutes*

At 2/18/10 11:28 AM, EagleRock wrote: That gave me a laugh..."Wow, I'm talking to a mod!" I'll be sure to say that every time we chat on AIM. :-P

You''l get bored before I do :P

At 2/18/10 10:45 PM, byteslinger wrote:

At 2/18/10 10:30 PM, puddinN64 wrote: Who here knows where I can get a cheap car?

Buy a '83 Yugo - I hear they're REALLY cheap.

I have imagery of Dan Ackroyd sitting in a Yugo, as it gets rolled over in the film Dragnet going through my head. Classic.

STOLEN FLASH ALERT:

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  by <deleted>

  Under Judgment

  (Everyone)

Stolen from:

http://www.neave.com/games/nblox/

Good find Sir-Nuts. It's been flagged. Anyway, any y'all seen the "5 Hour Energy, 2:30pm" commercial? I feel like taking a nap by 2 at the earliest. Ugh, I am so not a morning person at all.

At 2/18/10 10:45 PM, byteslinger wrote:

Hope this helps! ;)

Yeah, that's solid advice. If I don't do that, I might just keep borrowing my family's second car. It works alright.

As payment for your help Byte, I'm going to be Mr. Flintstone and make your bed rock!

I have now got a brand new charger and hopefully it will be okay touch wood its seems to be working but it was expensive. I'm now also signed up to XBox Live I have got a one months Gold account free trail not to bothered about going online on it though. I'm not for online gaming. But I may try it out its looks fun I guess. Don't get what the big deal with online gaming is. As for the ad I would not have seen it but I'm not from the US though. I got Fable the first game for XBox.

At 2/20/10 04:48 PM, puddinN64 wrote: As payment for your help Byte, I'm going to be Mr. Flintstone and make your bed rock!

Do you want me to ban you for that awful pun? Or do you just want to self impose an exile from the BBS for a day in shame?

At 2/21/10 05:13 AM, Coop83 wrote:

At 2/20/10 04:48 PM, puddinN64 wrote: As payment for your help Byte, I'm going to be Mr. Flintstone and make your bed rock!

Do you want me to ban you for that awful pun? Or do you just want to self impose an exile from the BBS for a day in shame?

Nice one Coop. "Self impose an exile from the BBS for a day in shame." That should be a sig or something. Though I have no idea how I would make it look. Any ideas?

The latest update.

Also it's currently live until 6 P.M. eastern time so feel free to comment before it ends in almost 4 hours.

At 2/21/10 05:13 AM, Coop83 wrote:

At 2/20/10 04:48 PM, puddinN64 wrote: As payment for your help Byte, I'm going to be Mr. Flintstone and make your bed rock!

Do you want me to ban you for that awful pun? Or do you just want to self impose an exile from the BBS for a day in shame?

Well, first off, you can't make a bed rock if all you have is pebbles and a small stick. Secondly, I wasn't even going to comment on that post, but since everyone else is, I figured I'd chime in. I appreciate the humor - but you really could have done better. Hopefully your skill at fixing your laptop exceeds your skill at the English language...hehehe...

Oh, and as for a sig - I threw together this one. Wear it in good health!

At 2/21/10 07:37 AM, Lizzardis wrote: Anywho... It's nice to actually finally post in here. No I haven't been banned, the fact being I've been on holiday from school for the past week and it's safe to say...

I just came back from vacation too, but I posted while I was gone so it's like I never left :D

I should say something, yet don't feel like I can mainly because I can't be bothered.

Bleh. So yeah... I'm still here... Just lurking and such. :)

Don't worry about that! After all, some of our members are much more inactive than you. Besides, we don't expect you to come here and post every single day, right? Sometimes we just don't feel like posting. Everyone gets bored after a while, and it's only a matter of time until you get motivated again.

At 2/21/10 05:13 AM, Coop83 wrote:

At 2/20/10 04:48 PM, puddinN64 wrote: As payment for your help Byte, I'm going to be Mr. Flintstone and make your bed rock!

Do you want me to ban you for that awful pun? Or do you just want to self impose an exile from the BBS for a day in shame?

I would absolutely love to see that ban. Reason for Ban: "Shitty puns"

At 2/21/10 02:25 PM, byteslinger wrote: Oh, and as for a sig - I threw together this one. Wear it in good health!

ROFL!!! Oh Bytw, your sense of humor never ceases to amaze me. ^_^ I'm going to tell you the same thing I told Eagle, both y'all should drop the IT act and go into stand-up comedy. Y'all would make a killing!

*Byte

damn that "Edit Button"!

sorry for double post. I hate having to come back in behind myself and correct my spelling errors. >_>

At 2/21/10 01:18 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote:

At 2/21/10 05:13 AM, Coop83 wrote: Do you want me to ban you for that awful pun? Or do you just want to self impose an exile from the BBS for a day in shame?

Nice one Coop. "Self impose an exile from the BBS for a day in shame." That should be a sig or something. Though I have no idea how I would make it look. Any ideas?

That's the thing - you don't have to impose bans, if you can show users how silly their ideas are. This was not one of the cases that was inferred in Mod School (Yes, we have one), but I felt that the idea of calling for a taxi for PuddinN64 was only moments away.

At 2/21/10 02:25 PM, byteslinger wrote: Oh, and as for a sig - I threw together this one. Wear it in good health!

That sig is pure win.

At 2/21/10 02:32 PM, puddinN64 wrote: I would absolutely love to see that ban. Reason for Ban: "Shitty puns"

Be careful what you wish for ;)

At 2/21/10 02:43 PM, Coop83 wrote: That's the thing - you don't have to impose bans, if you can show users how silly their ideas are. This was not one of the cases that was inferred in Mod School (Yes, we have one)

MOD SCHOOL?! Wow, I really had no idea you had to take a course about how to moderate the BBS or reviews. How long is it and how much does it cost? Are there any tests or quizzes? (I know these questions seem silly, but they are not. I'm being completely serious here.)

At 2/20/10 04:48 PM, puddinN64 wrote: As payment for your help Byte, I'm going to be Mr. Flintstone and make your

bed rock!

I know bad puns too...

A dyslexic guy walks into a bra.

Does the name Pavolv ring a bell?

Gossipers have a great sense of rumor.

The Energizer Bunny was arrested yesterday. He was charged with battery.

And my own pun that only some of you will get:

A guy walks into a bar, but didn't like the atmosphere.
He would've tried two bars, but couldn't stand the pressure.

At 2/20/10 08:53 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: I have now got a brand new charger and hopefully it will be okay touch wood

its seems to be working but it was expensive.

Especially Apple. I think this is why my next laptop probably won't be a Mac.

At 2/21/10 07:37 AM, Lizzardis wrote: I should say something, yet don't feel like I can mainly because I can't be

bothered.

Bleh. So yeah... I'm still here... Just lurking and such. :)

Imagine how hard it is to lurk and feel obligated to reply to everyone around here? :-) It makes it really tough to post around here sometimes, honestly. I see three pages of people, and I want to repsond to them all. ugh...

At 2/21/10 02:25 PM, byteslinger wrote: Well, first off, you can't make a bed rock if all you have is pebbles and a

small stick. Secondly, I wasn't even going to comment on that post, but since
everyone else is, I figured I'd chime in. I appreciate the humor - but you
really could have done better. Hopefully your skill at fixing your laptop
exceeds your skill at the English language...hehehe...

OH BURN!

Oh, and as for a sig - I threw together this one. Wear it in good health!

Awesome 'shopping skills there.

At 2/21/10 02:36 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote:

At 2/21/10 02:25 PM, byteslinger wrote: Oh, and as for a sig - I threw together this one. Wear it in good health!

ROFL!!! Oh Bytw, your sense of humor never ceases to amaze me. ^_^ I'm going

to tell you the same thing I told Eagle, both y'all should drop the IT act and
go into stand-up comedy. Y'all would make a killing!

Bytw? That's a shortcut she should use for her blog or something:

Byte The Way - Quips and hilarious comments from everyone's favorite Supreme Commander!

At 2/21/10 02:43 PM, Coop83 wrote: That's the thing - you don't have to impose bans, if you can show users how

silly their ideas are. This was not one of the cases that was inferred in Mod
School (Yes, we have one), but I felt that the idea of calling for a taxi for
PuddinN64 was only moments away.

Mod School? Sounds like Poozy was the class clown... :-P

At 2/21/10 02:32 PM, puddinN64 wrote: I would absolutely love to see that ban. Reason for Ban: "Shitty puns"

Be careful what you wish for ;)

Is that a hammer that Coop is swinging down onto puddin's head? :-)

At 2/21/10 02:38 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: *Byte

damn that "Edit Button"!

sorry for double post. I hate having to come back in behind myself and correct my spelling errors. >_>

bytw?
byte way? haha... byt the way? something like that?

that's a vote for the Edit button... I think it should be that kind of edit button that only last for... let say, and hour... (maybe that too much, maybe just about 5 min) you only have 1 hour to edit your post, and after the hour, that's it, and now it is unchangeable...

bytw... i mean... btw... hi guys!

Oh fer cryin out loud! I make one spelling mistake on AIM, my own name no less, and I get flack about that. Now I accidentally, misspell Byte and I'm getting more flack!?!

WTF?! GAH! It's like we're a bunch of 10 year old kids in here. :\

At 2/21/10 03:56 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: WTF?! GAH! It's like we're a bunch of 10 year old kids in here. :\

haha, understande me please... i have a mayor report to do for tomorrow, and i am really tired, and i came here trying to look for a little of distraction, and i found kinda funny for make jokes about your typo, but c'mon is not like a mean it, i am just kidding, acting like a 10 years old, just for the LOLS... hahaha
anyway
*salute*
*back to the portal... and back to my Organic report...*

Not to be a dick or anything but your spelling reminds me of this pic"

I have a feeling I may get banned, but this is all in good fun.

Again, no offense about your spelling and grammar ALDLV.

At 2/21/10 08:00 PM, Lizzardis wrote:

At 2/21/10 06:00 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Again, no offense about your spelling and grammar ALDLV.

He's allowed to be a dick to you and have a joke about your spelling.... English is your native language. For ALDLV however... Spelling is NOT his native language.

This is true. Spanish is my first language too, and most of aldlv's mistakes are typical. We all made them at some point of another and it takes some time to actually learn not to keep making them. (hell, my English is not perfect either).

That's why I love the inbuilt spell checker for Firefox. Unfortunately, it doesn't see the uncapitalised i as a spelling error. So when I'm talking about myself... I have to make sure I capitalize the I... And since it's not a habit of mine to do that, I find it quite difficult. Plus, it's an American dictionary that comes with it, and I have the release candidate for Firefox, so the English dictionary doesn't work with it... Therefore words such as realise, that are spelt with an S in England... Are spelt with a Z in America.

I missed the spell checker A LOT while I was on vacation. The computer I used in the house I was staying at only had the Spanish spell checker, and I didn't want to change any of the configuration so I just had to deal with it.

And about the Firefox RC, I always used Firefox (even though now I'm using chrome), and I'm pretty sure that you can download the RC with built-in English (British) spell checker. Is this the latest RC? Because there's an English (British) download available.

England: Realise
America: Realize

What the fuck? I've been making the same mistake for years then! >:(

At 2/21/10 06:00 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Not to be a dick or anything but your spelling reminds me of this pic"

I have a feeling I may get banned, but this is all in good fun.

Again, no offense about your spelling and grammar ALDLV.

Okay, if everyone here wants to get technical, the language of America should be the Native American tongue. Everyone forgets that those poor bastards had been here for freakin' centuries before the Vikings ran into NewFoundland. Then then when Christopher "where the hell is India anyway - I didn't bring my GPS or a wife" Columbus discovered a new land, he told the King and Queen of Spain that he found a new land for conquest - even though he missed his mark by half the planet!

Once the Europeans started making forays to North America, they found it to be a great vacation spot. The Native Americans, who did not collect wealth and were generally living in harmony with the Earth, graciously gave these visitors land - and in return, they gave them diseases and lead poisoning. After a while, some of the Native Americans took affront to all of this, and started to fight back. So the Europeans hired mercenaries to come on in and kick some brick-red butt.

Later, the Spanish decided that not only did this new land look like a great place to live, but the ignorant primitives who had an Earth-based religion for many millennia needed to be saved by way of Jesus Christ. Now, trying to explain JC to the Native Americans is like trying to teach somebody with no feet how to tie a sneaker - it doesn't make sense. Well, that made it too challenging, so the Crusades began, and those who didn't follow JC wound up on the wrong side of dead.

Then after that, Britain sent out some of their own ships, and formed colonies all along the East Coast. These were met with varying degrees of resistance and friendship, but no matter how you sliced it, the Native Americans kept getting pushed off their land . Eventually, there were 13 colonies, which then became independent of Britain, and now a brand-new country was formed on the eastern side of a large continent that had already been spoken for,

Of course, religion followed, and the concept of "manifest destiny" was formed - meaning that it was "God's will" that the USA keep going west and taking all that it could - until they hit the left side of the continent. Hell, we didn't even stop there - we eventually grabbed Alaska from the Russians and Hawaii from the Philippines, and made a few small islands in the Caribbean our territories. All in the name of religion, we systematically vanquished the natives and their cultures. All that's left of the Native Americans are a few small spots of reservations, where we continue to pillage them by setting up casinos and cheap smoke-shops.

So, while all of you are debating over English and Spanish as the American Language, you are all forgetting that those are not the languages that were first spoken here. I just wanted to set the record straight!

MI MINIK; MI IW - PEGESH KIJE-MANITOO JAWENIMIG

(translated: That's all to say - may God bless you!)

*Salutes*