At 3/13/09 08:45 PM, DarkSoldier wrote: The [OO] just seems like they want to make history on Newgrounds or something. A wannabee spam raider group in my opinion. The quality of their flash may not be bad but i think their intent of raiding the portal should be taken into account and because of their intent i have not voted so highly on them. I gave them mostly 1's.

Rereading my post got me thinking that some of you may have understood by me giving them mostly 1's that i don't watch the flash. I would like to clarify and say that i do watch the flash movies but the score they would get from me is affected a lot because i don't like their intent to spam the portal and the only reason they're submitting these ok quality flash is because of that.

At 3/13/09 08:20 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Well, the best thing to do in that case is to keep an eye on them, and try to be online whenever they plan another big submission-spree. If they really give a shit, though, they'll probably lock down their forums and/or post disinformation, so take anything you see with a grain of salt.

I gotta stop procrastinating on my portal watch, one of another Chris Beer's trash just slipped through and I thought the security at the movie theater is bad.

I know Idiot-Finder I just checked the portal and he has made another account with the same garbage. I think its just sad he has nothing better do to then waste time with flash then get deleted. I noticed all of his other flash has gone as well as some of The OO spam group stuff in the obituaries. I did see one by them but I missed that Chris Beer one under judgment. I did not think about the whistle status but what you say SlashFirestorm sounds fair enough to me. I have got a bad feeling about the (OO) are they going do spam like FFF did? this is getting serious the portal needs defending. Good screen shot idiot-buster looks suspect there forum does.

Another spam group? Why won't stupid people stop spamming the portal? I hate seeing things like that in the portal >:(

At 3/13/09 03:34 PM, Ismael92 wrote: Not sure of what you're talking about, and probably I'm in the "newer members" category.

Hint: bird

Eagle?

Also, be sure to check out this game, it has medals!

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  Fear Unlimited Issue2

  by Dizimz

  Encons adventure continues in this prequel series to FU 1

  Game

  141,360 Views

  (Ages 17+)

I haven't played it yet...

Well I talked to Slash about this not too long ago and he said that I was allowed to rejoin and go through the voting system like a new member. If some people don't remember or weren't around when it happened I submitted 7 (I think) spam flashes to the portal and got a lot of shit from the club for it. I thought of it as a joke, but shortly afterward realized that one submission was a joke and 7 submissions was spam. I then willingly left the club to give myself some time to work things out.

I would like to rejoin this club. Not only did I remove every spam submission that I have I know for a fact that some of the members know that I'm now working on legitimate flash and really working hard on it.

I'm an honest voter and reviewer and have worked hard to stop award stealing throughout the weeks. I even found one in time to have all of the reviews deleted and shortly after the submission itself was deleted.

Either way I respect your guy's opinions. Thanks for your time.

At 3/13/09 03:34 PM, Ismael92 wrote:

At 3/13/09 03:18 PM, Lotus wrote: AHEM: Reporting in for duty sirs.
Sorry as well for not coming around as I should've, but l'm gonna do my best to get back into B/Ping once I get back from vacation. <3

I hope you're having a great time wherever you are :D

Hehe, I don't leave just yet but I'm venturing off to Paris, IL for a nice eight day vacation pretty soon. Until then though, I won't be of much use since I'm working a lot to save up some cash and all for the trip.

I will be back soon after though, just gotta get a break from girl troubles, worries, woes, and the such for a while, have a nice trip, and then come back to a fresh start in a sense.. I think it will do me good. :)

At 3/13/09 11:20 PM, Corky52 wrote: Well I talked to Slash about this not too long ago and he said that I was allowed to rejoin and go through the voting system like a new member. If some people don't remember or weren't around when it happened I submitted 7 (I think) spam flashes to the portal and got a lot of shit from the club for it. I thought of it as a joke, but shortly afterward realized that one submission was a joke and 7 submissions was spam. I then willingly left the club to give myself some time to work things out.

I would like to rejoin this club. Not only did I remove every spam submission that I have I know for a fact that some of the members know that I'm now working on legitimate flash and really working hard on it.

I'm an honest voter and reviewer and have worked hard to stop award stealing throughout the weeks. I even found one in time to have all of the reviews deleted and shortly after the submission itself was deleted.

Either way I respect your guy's opinions. Thanks for your time.

Good. We need more members like you in the club.

But would you be willing to pledge or promise not to make the same mistakes again? Not to be an ass, but this is a pretty prestigous organization. We still have honor.

***IMPORTANT***

While I know everyone here understands the rules of the Barracks, we're under increased observation lately, largely due to increased anti-spam groups and my efforts to teach them how to properly help clean up the Portal. I do not want any observers to even think we condone mass-voting, and some of the talk lately, without the context of our history, could give that false impression.

Users like Chris Beer and HENTUX have been banned and deleted multiple times, and yes, a great deal of their flash is rulebreaking. If the Elite Guard Barracks had real "enemies", rulebreakers like them would fit the bill. However, they are still entitled to the fair voting and presumption of innocence that all flash authors receive from us.

If they submit a flash that breaks no rules, don't mention it unless it's already passed or been blammed. We don't need any warnings; any EGB'ers currently online are smart enough to check the Portal and vote on their own.

If they submit a rulebreaking flash, alert the Barracks with links and the reasons why it's whistle-worthy. Be certain of your claims, though; if you're not certain, provide the evidence you have, and others will investigate.

If they fileswap something post-judgment, inform the Barracks and PM Wade. The reason you should inform the EGB in this situation is so that only one person contacts the admins; whoever posts the alert is in charge of follow-up unless a senior EGB member offers to do it themselves.

So no more "alert, crap in the Portal", kay? It gives off the wrong impression, especially when I'm linking the EGB to confused newbies who are trying to understand why they shouldn't mass-vote on shit flash. Even if a notorious rulebreaker like Chris Beer submits, only alert the Barracks if they've done something rulebreaking.

Now, with that out of the way...

At 3/13/09 11:20 PM, Corky52 wrote: I would like to rejoin this club. Not only did I remove every spam submission that I have I know for a fact that some of the members know that I'm now working on legitimate flash and really working hard on it.

Indeed, you have certainly improved enough to warrant a re-evaluation. Barracks members can go to the appropriate thread for discussion and voting. Remember that you must be signed in to view/post, and speak now or forever hold your peace.

Yeah i noticed that this Penguin Posse could become a new spam group made up by this crisbeer person. But there was two in the portal by him they where pointless and where almost identical. Adn i blew my whistle on one of them but blammed them both.

At 3/14/09 02:27 AM, SlashFirestorm wrote: So no more "alert, crap in the Portal", kay?

Understood.

Basically, all members are under their own influence as to what to vote on a movie or game as it is submitted.

After all, personally, I vote 0 on Waterlollies every day with one of my accounts, as it's far too lame to still be up there with the best movies on the portal. The other Brackenwood movies have their place up there, but Waterlollies just isn't as good, to be honest.

I can't influence you guys to go out there and vote 0 on that movie - hell, I've probably influenced some of you to go out there and 5 it, just to spite me.

Just consider the movie that you watch and all of it's merits and flaws before you vote, it's worth a lot more than that.

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  by <deleted>

  Under Judgment

  (Everyone)

This flash just passed, and with an astonishingly high score for a spam flash this crap (well over 2.0). However, so far it only has 4 reviews, but the review score is currently 9.0/10. While it is a long way from being in the region to steal Underdog/RCP, I'd still recommend some surveillance in case a flurry of alt mass-reviewing occurs once it drops off the page.

At 3/14/09 02:27 AM, SlashFirestorm wrote: While I know everyone here understands the rules of the Barracks, we're under increased observation lately, largely due to increased anti-spam groups and my efforts to teach them how to properly help clean up the Portal. I do not want any observers to even think we condone mass-voting, and some of the talk lately, without the context of our history, could give that false impression.

Yes, I also saw some threads in the C&C and the Wi/Ht? forums some threads which titles were something like "Tired of spam?" or stuff like that. Those threads clearly aimed to have more people voting zero on each submission by a spam group even if it wasn't rule-breaking. I was glad to see you posted in those threads to teach them how to clean the Portal. Also, I think I'll provide a link to your two PSA about mass-voting and award stealing next time I see that kind of thread.

At 3/13/09 11:20 PM, Corky52 wrote: I would like to rejoin this club. Not only did I remove every spam submission that I have I know for a fact that some of the members know that I'm now working on legitimate flash and really working hard on it.

I'm so happy to have you back around here and to see you applied back just after me, like you said me on AIM. I'm pretty confident you will be accepted so I hope we both will enjoy our stay around here :).

At 3/14/09 08:17 AM, RohantheBarbarian wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/48 6947
This flash just passed, and with an astonishingly high score for a spam flash this crap (well over 2.0). However, so far it only has 4 reviews, but the review score is currently 9.0/10. While it is a long way from being in the region to steal Underdog/RCP, I'd still recommend some surveillance in case a flurry of alt mass-reviewing occurs once it drops off the page.

I think they are trying to steal Review Crew Pick, hopefully my review gave them a little set back.
Hey Chris Beer might actually take into consideration my points, but I highly doubt it.

At 3/13/09 11:36 PM, Lotus wrote:

At 3/13/09 03:34 PM, Ismael92 wrote:

At 3/13/09 03:18 PM, Lotus wrote: AHEM: Reporting in for duty sirs.
Sorry as well for not coming around as I should've, but l'm gonna do my best to get back into B/Ping once I get back from vacation. <3

I hope you're having a great time wherever you are :D

Hehe, I don't leave just yet but I'm venturing off to Paris, IL for a nice eight day vacation pretty soon. Until then though, I won't be of much use since I'm working a lot to save up some cash and all for the trip.

I will be back soon after though, just gotta get a break from girl troubles, worries, woes, and the such for a while, have a nice trip, and then come back to a fresh start in a sense.. I think it will do me good. :)

Woah Paris must be great, I wish I can visit it one day... Have a good time, and bring us a present or something!

At 3/14/09 02:27 AM, SlashFirestorm wrote: So no more "alert, crap in the Portal", kay?

OK, I haven't done that before but I couldn't agree with you more, people could think we're trying to mass vote submissions.

At 3/14/09 07:01 AM, Coop83 wrote: After all, personally, I vote 0 on Waterlollies every day with one of my accounts, as it's far too lame to still be up there with the best movies on the portal. The other Brackenwood movies have their place up there, but Waterlollies just isn't as good, to be honest.

In my opinion, the YuYu is much better, I love that movie. The music is great and so is the animation.

At 3/14/09 08:17 AM, RohantheBarbarian wrote: However, so far it only has 4 reviews, but the review score is currently 9.0/10.

The review score has been lowered, but I may leave a review for it later, just in case.

• Unsuitable Submission

  This submission contains age-rated material and requires an account to view.

This has lived long enough.

Question:

How is one supposed to vote on a submission like this:

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  2nd Annual Tank Awards

  by MindChamber

  Find out who won what for the 2nd Annual Tank awards!

  Movie

  255,648 Views

  (Everyone)

On one hand, this is an pretty big thing by the NG crew and I can see why it's so popular, but this to me personally is a terrible entry and not even a FLASh product. Not only this, but "It's A Tank" irritates me, because they're technically "good" videos, but they are not flash and I'm not sure if they belong on this site.

So, what's the official EGB stance on this?

At 3/14/09 01:52 PM, puddinN64 wrote: Question:

How is one supposed to vote on a submission like this:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/48 6001
On one hand, this is an pretty big thing by the NG crew and I can see why it's so popular, but this to me personally is a terrible entry and not even a FLASh product. Not only this, but "It's A Tank" irritates me, because they're technically "good" videos, but they are not flash and I'm not sure if they belong on this site.

So, what's the official EGB stance on this?

there is nothing in the terms of service or the rules for uploading that says that what you upload needs to be made in Flash. In fact, numa numa - a live-action video of a fat dude spazzing out started on NG, not youtube, and became an internet fad. There are other examples of people uploading stop-motion claymation to the portal. If these things didn't belong on the site, there would be an option to flag them as "not flash" in the judgment phase. Remember, NG has been around a lot longer than youtube, so its not like people are uploading videos to the wrong website.

As long as it is a .swf file, you are able to upload it to the site.

Also, Please don't feed the trolls by replying to chris beers if he posts in here with his new account or not. yes, he is antagonizing you guys, but I had to delete a couple of posts in here just now because you replied to him. unfortunately I need to leave one of hentux's posts to ban him, and since this is his only post..well, that's how the cookie crumbles. Just pretend it's not there, k?

At 3/14/09 12:27 PM, TheSongSalad wrote: yeah, i always try to vote that crap a '0'. i like what you guys are doing here, keep it up. and i think it would be dumb if wade deleted an alt account of someone just trying to keep the portal free of spam.

Personally, I think Wade should delete every single alt connected with a rulebreaking spammer, along with warning co-authors to be careful who they become Portal Buddies with, lest they get deleted too.

At 3/14/09 12:53 PM, Zacht3hking wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/48 5645
This has lived long enough.

Perhaps you should read my posts a bit more carefully. We're not a mass voting club. If you don't like that flash, then go ahead and vote zero on it, but there's nothing that can be done about it, as it's passed judgment. It'll be here forever unless the author is deleted.

Click the two links in my signature and give both PSA's a good read.

At 3/14/09 01:52 PM, puddinN64 wrote: So, what's the official EGB stance on this?

The EGB doesn't have a stance on it; like everything else, it's up to the individual user. Technically it IS a flash, as it's in .swf format (and likely edited in Adobe Flash, even if it is live action). Furthermore, since it's Tom's website, he can put up whatever the hell he wants.

The question is whether or not live action belongs on Newgrounds. Claymation and other stopmotion clearly is permitted, but most normal, Youtube-like shit gets blammed just fine (though it's not technically against any rules). Tom has hinted at a "video portal", so perhaps that's where such things would go. Personally, I have no problem with that as long as it stays the fuck out of the Flash Portal, lol.

I, myself, don't bind myself to one set of guidelines for voting. If anyone else submitted a live-action video of themselves, I'd vote zero because it's lame. But this was the Tank Awards, a major event on Newgrounds, and for that purpose, it was pretty swell.

At 3/14/09 02:47 PM, Malachy wrote: As long as it is a .swf file, you are able to upload it to the site.

Indeed.

Also, Please don't feed the trolls by replying to chris beers if he posts in here with his new account or not.

Listen to the kind mod, he speaks truth. Ignore any spammers and go about your business. If they persist in voting, a senior member will PM a mod about it and it'll be taken care of without clogging up the thread with bickering.

At 3/14/09 02:58 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Listen to the kind mod, he speaks truth. Ignore any spammers and go about your business. If they persist in voting, a senior member will PM a mod about it and it'll be taken care of without clogging up the thread with bickering.

*posting, not voting. asdffd

Bleh.

Anyway, FC-Thun-Fan brought up an interesting idea in the forums. We could have an agreement with the NGPD, where they require a Bronze Whistle or higher for entry, and we require Silver, so users have to keep improving as they go. Sound like a good idea? If it's well-received, I'll talk to Tails about it (along with the Guardsman stuff).

At 3/14/09 03:02 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Anyway, FC-Thun-Fan brought up an interesting idea in the forums. We could have an agreement with the NGPD, where they require a Bronze Whistle or higher for entry, and we require Silver, so users have to keep improving as they go. Sound like a good idea? If it's well-received, I'll talk to Tails about it (along with the Guardsman stuff).

I think that sounds like a good plan so in time they can become a better user overal and not just get in here because they have a high amount of blams. Someone could just sit infrot of there computer blamming everying for 2 weeks and at about the 50-100 blammed submissins a day thay can get far. I'll endorce this idea because we are now making people make better posts higher whistle and someone with a decent save/blam ratio.

At 3/13/09 11:20 PM, Corky52 wrote: I would like to rejoin this club. Not only did I remove every spam submission that I have I know for a fact that some of the members know that I'm now working on legitimate flash and really working hard on it.

Yes, it's good to remove all of that spam you had created. I'm happy to see you work on a legitimate submission that i will review and vote on.

I'm an honest voter and reviewer and have worked hard to stop award stealing throughout the weeks. I even found one in time to have all of the reviews deleted and shortly after the submission itself was deleted.

Oh i know that, you were the one who pointed out to me that i was saving everything and blamming very little. I think one day i got a 100 or so b/p and only 20 were blams. As of now yesterday i got about 50 and 29 were blams much better than i was a few months ago.

Either way I respect your guy's opinions. Thanks for your time.

You have changed for the better and they do show. I think you would do just fine if you rejoin. You are one big ball of helpfullnes and your post quality is much better than mine will ever be so it will be great to have you back. And thats one more person for me to talk to on this thread.

It looks like we got a rash of spam again. Just want to let you guys know before they try to do something sketchy like alt reveiw everything to get an award. Seems kinda fishy to me.

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  by <deleted>

  Under Judgment

  (Everyone)

He did it, he finally did it and is using alts to vote it up on reviews

Don't watch this! For your sake don't!!!

At 3/14/09 09:33 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/48 7057
He did it, he finally did it and is using alts to vote it up on reviews

Don't watch this! For your sake don't!!!

It was fileswapped, obviously. Report it to Wade.

At 3/14/09 03:02 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote:

At 3/14/09 02:58 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Listen to the kind mod, he speaks truth.

I completely second that. Spammers just want attention, and by replying to them, you're only giving them that attention. Hell, they may even be lurking in this thread to see what we're talking about, and if they made a huge impact on us. That's unlikely, but still.

Anyway, FC-Thun-Fan brought up an interesting idea in the forums.

I kind of like the idea; forcing new members to get Silver. But I think there should be a time frame to get it; say, 2 months or so. Not sure on how much time exactly, but barring them from admittance is cruel, just because they don't have a Silver whistle.

Yes I agree been reading all the posts about the spam and hope I have not linked to any that have not been rule breaking. I must admit I may have gotten carried away lately sorry if I have. I have tried to link to ones that have passed already, but I have not replied to any trolls on here. I have PM Tom Fulp about that file flash Idiot-Finder good work on reporting it. I have not been that active in the portal but a good idea is to look through there pages and to check flash, and see if they have any under judgment. That is how I found some. I voted for Corky52 to come back on the forums. Anyway the new medals for games are really cool.

At 3/14/09 01:52 PM, puddinN64 wrote: Question:

How is one supposed to vote on a submission like this:
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/48 6001

When I read your post, I was thinking about what I was going to say here... But damn it looks like Malachy read my mind.

But in my opinion it's OK to have that kind of videos here, I don't like when people in reviews write things like "That belongs to YouTube!" or stuff like that. Some early submissions were live videos (Numa Numa) and we even have a collection for clays. I can't see why thinks like that don't belong here, after all, if their quality is good, I'm fine with it :)

At 3/14/09 03:02 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: Anyway, FC-Thun-Fan brought up an interesting idea in the forums. We could have an agreement with the NGPD, where they require a Bronze Whistle or higher for entry, and we require Silver, so users have to keep improving as they go. Sound like a good idea? If it's well-received, I'll talk to Tails about it (along with the Guardsman stuff).

That sounds great! The only trouble I see is that bronze could be a little too hard to join the NGPD, since you can join there with only 400 b/p, and maybe by that time you don't know how to use the whistle. Though it doesn't take many time getting it, even if Rage's thread is not here anymore it's possible to get a bronze whistle in a few days. Other than that I think it's a good idea.

At 3/14/09 09:33 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/48 7057
He did it, he finally did it and is using alts to vote it up on reviews

Don't watch this! For your sake don't!!!

Even if that is a real piece of shit, it contains A LOT of abusive reviews (as I mentioned in the EGB forum). Many of those reviews will end up getting deleted and the average review score could be a bit high. I'll keep track of it and review it if necessary, you may want to do the same.

The problem with the NGPD-bronze, EGB-silver idea is that most our new recruits don't come from the NGPD. If the majority of Barracks members wanted to raise our requirements to Silver, that'd be fine, but most votes were in favor of Bronze. So...I don't know.

One idea is that Guardsmen from the NGPD could be required to have Bronze whistles, and they'd have to move up to Silver before becoming official Barracks members; the general population would just need Bronze.

Hm, this needs more discussion, I think.

Anyhow, onto other business. The discussion period on Corky52 is over, and the majority was substantial enough for me to re-allow him into the Barracks; 75% was needed, and 79% was received. Hopefully everyone can accept him back with open arms and forget past grudges. If there are any conflicts, PM me and we'll get it straightened out before it becomes a blow-up.

Corky52, you can sign back up to the EGB forums and I'll validate you.

In other news, I had a PM conversation with a spammer tonight, and it was pretty interesting. Despite what their antics in the Portal might lead you to believe, most spammers are actually pretty intelligent and know what they're doing, so hopefully something productive will come out of the ongoing discussion. And if not, oh well, then nothing will have changed.

Personally, I would love for there to be a spam group on Newgrounds that shows a degree of effort and doesn't break any rules...such a group would be one I might join, if I had the time.

I miss the old days...

At 3/15/09 05:12 AM, SlashFirestorm wrote: The problem with the NGPD-bronze, EGB-silver idea is that most our new recruits don't come from the NGPD. If the majority of Barracks members wanted to raise our requirements to Silver, that'd be fine, but most votes were in favor of Bronze. So...I don't know.

One idea is that Guardsmen from the NGPD could be required to have Bronze whistles, and they'd have to move up to Silver before becoming official Barracks members; the general population would just need Bronze.

I agree that maybe Silver is a bit of a tall order after all, but I think requiring it only from Guardsmen is a bit silly. They shouldn't have to meet higher standards just because of the way they join the club. I think I'll stick with my original decision of bronze as the required whistle level. It gives the right impression of whether the new user can use his whistle or not, without unnecessary pressure. After all I think all EGB members strive to get a higher whistle level and we don't need to constantly be on their backs about it.