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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 05:47:09


Am I the only one here doing exams? Anyway, I just got my AS results this morning.

drum-roll please....

thank you...

Biology - A
ICT - A
Chemistry - B (2% off an A)
Physics - D :(

I'll be repeating some Chemistry modules to get that A and dropping Physics.

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 05:53:22


At 8/19/04 05:47 AM, Eldarion wrote: Am I the only one here doing exams? Anyway, I just got my AS results this morning.

Well, I just completed my summer courses. I don't think many people are getting their grades right now. It is the end of summer you know ;P

Anyway, Good job on your grades!!

excluding physics...

I just received my grades too, like 3 days ago. (Now I have my CS degree!!!)

CS 110: A
Oracle: A
C++ OOP: A

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 05:53:54


Congrats to Dogma for the wonderfull new badge, well done old bean, well done indeed. Congrats also to Kam Ron for his posting acheivements, excellent work.

As for j00bies movie, due to reading the posts in here before i actually watch it, i think it will be shitty, thanks for the warning though guys :)

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 06:04:35


At 8/19/04 05:53 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Congrats to Dogma for the wonderfull new badge, well done old bean, well done indeed. Congrats also to Kam Ron for his posting acheivements, excellent work.

Man, I didn't even realize you got it...FUCK YEAH!!!

Supreme Commander D0GMA.

I like the sound of that.

As for j00bies movie, due to reading the posts in here before i actually watch it, i think it will be shitty, thanks for the warning though guys :)

Yeah, you are right about that premonition, but at least some of us pry ourselves away from the forums every once in a while.
*slaps own wrist* :)

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 06:12:45


At 8/19/04 05:47 AM, Eldarion wrote: Am I the only one here doing exams? Anyway, I just got my AS results this morning.

Heh, was about four years ago that I got my A-level results. I got a B in chemistry as well.

Biology - A
ICT - A
Chemistry - B (2% off an A)
Physics - D :(

I'll be repeating some Chemistry modules to get that A and dropping Physics.

Fair enough.

Congrats to D0gma on now having no need to vote on anything under judgement ever again.

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 06:27:53


At 8/19/04 06:12 AM, jonthomson wrote: Congrats to D0gma...

Despite the fact that about 20 people have mentioned it, I just realised: well done D0GMA on getting EGSC. Very well done indeed.

...on now having no need to vote on anything under judgement ever again.

That's what's so great about the b/p system. It's static. D0GMA will always be EGSC now no matter how many movies fixit blams/saves.

The level system needs to be static as well. D0GMA would lose his level 14 eventually if he didn't deposit. We need more levels, and a new, static level system. Please.

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 07:02:16


At 8/18/04 10:09 PM, D0GMA wrote: LOL 20 minutes to get 2 points with 9 flash parked UJ :-P~~~

Congratulations on becoming the 9th Supreme Commander D0GMA. My password is hotmanlove. What's yours? :P

At 8/18/04 10:28 PM, D0GMA wrote: I voted that we not even have an election. Like I said, I don't believe it's warranted at this point.

I completely agree with you, but I didn't think raising the issue would result in the election being cancelled. Maybe I should have spoken up after all.

At 8/18/04 10:59 PM, j00bie wrote: HOORAY!

If I ever get Flash and submit something here I'd be looking for a 3.00 at the least. I couldn't bring myself to submit absolute trash and get an equally trashy Batting Average.

At 8/19/04 01:11 AM, D0GMA wrote: To all of you who tossed passing scores at it, fuck off.

Damn D0GMA. You said exactly what I was thinking. I actually sat through that quiz atrocity and couldn't bring myself to watch that stupid Handbook, especially after reading the negative opinions here and the review on the very same page. Being a smartass is all well and good, but that quiz was just damn stupid.

At 8/19/04 03:59 AM, Dobica wrote: Oh, and he's banned for being a general nuiscane about four pages back, sorry folks.

Please do that more often.

At 8/19/04 06:27 AM, Eldarion wrote: The level system needs to be static as well. We need more levels, and a new, static level system. Please.

Shut the fuck up n00b. Static level system is stupid. More levels are supposedly 'on the way'. Fucking patience.


I'll probably read this in ten minutes and facepalm. - RageVI

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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 07:12:00


Thank you IMKRU and Lion..

I would've thanked you's earlier,but my hard drive is acting up and somehow is makin my computer 'stutter'..

Shitty Western Digital hard drives.


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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 07:13:56


At 8/19/04 07:02 AM, FlGMENT wrote:
At 8/19/04 06:27 AM, Eldarion wrote: The level system needs to be static as well. We need more levels, and a new, static level system. Please.
Shut the fuck up n00b. Static level system is stupid. More levels are supposedly 'on the way'. Fucking patience.

I was simply stating my opinion on the matter. I am no n00b. I've been a member of NG on and off since 2001. I fail to see a hint of impatience in my post above. I find your reaction to my post both inappropriate and abusive. Now fuck off.

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 07:14:23


At 8/19/04 05:47 AM, Eldarion wrote: Am I the only one here doing exams? Anyway, I just got my AS results this morning.

Nope - just got my A-level results as well - I was the most nervous I've ever been...

I got As in Maths, Further Maths, Physics and Economics!! I've been accepted at Oxford and am a very happy boy!

Good luck to everybody else with exams...

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 07:22:41


At 8/19/04 07:14 AM, --delteated-- wrote: I've been accepted at Oxford and am a very happy boy!

Thats excellent news mate, well done. But why in gods name arent you depositing ? I looked at your profile a few days ago and you have the same experience, i hope i didnt deposit for you for nothing.

Eldarion and FIGMENT, calm down ladies, thsi is a fun day, not to mention a lounge were people talk about good things. Theres no need for flaming.

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 07:33:33


At 8/19/04 07:14 AM, --delteated-- wrote: I got As in Maths, Further Maths, Physics and Economics!! I've been accepted at Oxford and am a very happy boy!

Well done delteated, that's amazing!

At 8/19/04 07:20 AM, BonusStage wrote: Why would a B+ be THAT bad, but i don't care, good job on all those

Thanks :) I need an A in Chemistry to do Pharmacy.

besides Physics i guess :/

fuck it. I don't care. :)

At 8/19/04 07:22 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Eldarion and FIGMENT, calm down ladies, thsi is a fun day, not to mention a lounge were people talk about good things. Theres no need for flaming.

You know you love it. :)
Besides, he started it.
I was just stating an opinion.

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 08:47:22


At 8/19/04 06:27 AM, Eldarion wrote: The level system needs to be static as well.

But the current level system is good. The fact that you could lose your level encourages you to keep depositing and makes the levels more special than it would be if it was static. If everyone could get to the last level, then level 30 wouldn't be so special. Anyway, with the exp system, since you can only get 10 exp per day, two people depositing everyday stay the same distance away from each other. There's no chance that level 30 would be completely unobtainable because sooner or later the person in the lead is going to miss a deposit. There is no need for this system to be static as the fact that there's usually only one level 30 and that's enough to keep people depositing.
You could agrue that the b/s system has special levels and what not, but with b/s allows you to get more than 10 points a day. That system needs to be static. If it was like the level system, and fixit was still going, no one would ever get close to the fourth final rank, let alone the last. Also that getting those 10+ points whenever there are UJ submissions and not on a daily basis means you could reach EGSC (in a static system) in twenty years, ten months or if there was a extremeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeely rare glitch that put all the submissions on NG UJ again, 96 hours if you were able to vote correcly on 30,000 entries at a pace of 1 entry/11.52 seconds (which would also be extremely rare considering others would be voting). The only reason to keep voting after you reach it is to get in front of someone, nothing more.
So EGSC differs from level 30 due to the possibility of getting there, the way you get there, and what you do after you get there.

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 09:42:29


At 8/19/04 08:47 AM, Qwoxyl wrote:
At 8/19/04 06:27 AM, Eldarion wrote: The level system needs to be static as well.
But the current level system is good. The fact that you could lose your level encourages you to keep depositing and makes the levels more special than it would be if it was static. If everyone could get to the last level, then level 30 wouldn't be so special.

OK, I accept your argument and you do have a point. If making the level system static is too much, then at the very least, we need more levels. 50 levels would be excellent, we could put humantarget52 at level 50, and then the experience differential would be lower, so we'd be able to level up in say, 30-40 days as opposed to 70-80. This would make all the difference, and leveling up would still be special.

Anyway, with the exp system, since you can only get 10 exp per day, two people depositing everyday stay the same distance away from each other. There's no chance that level 30 would be completely unobtainable because sooner or later the person in the lead is going to miss a deposit.

Level 30 is almost impossible to get, especially for a level 9 like me. Let me do some calculations...

ht52's exp = 16,976
my exp = 680
difference = 16,296
days for me to reach level 30, if no-one else deposits = 1,630
years = about 4 and 1/2

Now, let's say ht52 did deposit every day for those 1,630 days.

ht52's exp after 1,630 days = 33,276
my experience after 1,630 days = 16,980

Now, in four and a half years, if I were to deposit every day, and no-one else has deposited, I would have enough exp points to be level 30. But because ht52 has been depositing all this time (possible, however unlikely) I would only have enough for level 15 or around that.

You could agrue that the b/s system has special levels and what not, but with b/s allows you to get more than 10 points a day.

Yeah, but it still takes a long time to rank up in the b/p levels because of the large gaps at the end (5,000 b/p points)

That system needs to be static.

I agree, I never said it shouldn't be.

If it was like the level system, and fixit was still going, no one would ever get close to the fourth final rank, let alone the last.

Good point.

OK, I've read your argument, and you've convinced me: maybe a static level system would be a bad idea, there would be too many level 30's etc. However, we still need more levels: it just takes too long to level up. It wasn't too bad a few years ago, but -bomb-, Pimp, Shrapnel and ht52 have been depositing all this time and it has gotten out of hand. It takes 5 days to level up from 8 to 9, but (currently) it then takes 74 days to level up from 9 to 10!

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 10:00:04


Theres still a small flaw in your plan Eldarion. Just say Wade upgraded to 50 levels and HT was put at 50, the same thing would happen, with him depositing everyday the points would still accumulate, and it would take us lower levelled users the same amount of time just to level up once.

The only thing i can see is if Wade upgraded, he didnt move HT and he would have to gain those levels, but then it would take forever for us still to reach level 30. Meh, i dont know if you guys will understand this, but im trying :)

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 10:35:01


At 8/19/04 10:00 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Theres still a small flaw in your plan Eldarion. Just say Wade upgraded to 50 levels and HT was put at 50, the same thing would happen, with him depositing everyday the points would still accumulate, and it would take us lower levelled users the same amount of time just to level up once.

No, we would level up quicker.

This is a very basic example:

16,976 / 30 = 565.87
16,976 / 50 = 339.52

BAsic, and not how the level system works, but it does illustrate how, if ht52 was at level 50, the gap between levels would be smaller.

The only thing i can see is if Wade upgraded, he didnt move HT and he would have to gain those levels, but then it would take forever for us still to reach level 30. Meh, i dont know if you guys will understand this, but im trying :)

This would basically be the same as the current system, and only ht52 and a few others would benefit, and the exp gap between levels would just keep increasing.

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 12:01:30


At 8/19/04 07:14 AM, --delteated-- wrote: Good luck to everybody else with exams...

Can you smell that? Smells like shit.

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 12:28:08


At 8/19/04 01:58 AM, Recon_Rebel wrote:
Yeah sure, it'll probably be worth a zero so that's what I'll vote.

If you plan on throwing a 0 at them out of spite, so be it.

I've missed out on points for the same reasons you mentioned. I do not "go with the flow" on Fun Stuff crap, Star Syndicate garbage, etc. If it sucks, it gets a 0, even if I know people are going to be sheep and get it to pass. I've said it before, I'd rather make my point on a submission than earn a point off one.

At 8/19/04 05:53 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Congrats to Dogma for the wonderfull new badge, well done old bean, well done indeed.

Thanks much.


As for j00bies movie, due to reading the posts in here before i actually watch it, i think it will be shitty, thanks for the warning though guys :)

~shrug~ He claimed he would be updating them over time. When submitted, the recent one at submission had no bgm, but now people are talking about there being music. I take back my above "bonus" as he's bulked the file size up from 250k to 1mb with music. Eventually it will be viewable, but not today.

At 8/19/04 06:04 AM, RedCircle wrote:
Supreme Commander D0GMA.

Supreme Dogma will do. *tsk tsk* Leaving without kissing my ring? For shame.

At 8/19/04 06:12 AM, jonthomson wrote:
Congrats to D0gma on now having no need to vote on anything under judgement ever again.

I at least need to finish out the week ... have to keep up my gold pace ;)

At 8/19/04 06:27 AM, Eldarion wrote: Despite the fact that about 20 people have mentioned it, I just realised: well done D0GMA on getting EGSC. Very well done indeed.

Thanks =)

The level system needs to be static as well. D0GMA would lose his level 14 eventually if he didn't deposit. We need more levels, and a new, static level system. Please.

Everyone is used to the static-scaling system in place now. There's been rumours of either an entirely new system (for both ranks and levels), or just more ranks and levels, being implemented at some unknown future date. Just wait for it.

At 8/19/04 07:02 AM, FlGMENT wrote:
Congratulations on becoming the 9th Supreme Commander D0GMA. My password is hotmanlove. What's yours? :P

D0GMAMeansBitch


At 8/18/04 10:28 PM, D0GMA wrote: I voted that we not even have an election. Like I said, I don't believe it's warranted at this point.
I completely agree with you, but I didn't think raising the issue would result in the election being cancelled. Maybe I should have spoken up after all.

I doubt my "vote-no-vote" will have any affect, but I cast it ... same as my giving j00bie's flash what it deserved :-P~~ spancker is back, sort of, and trying to get back into the swing of things. The obvious and most effective way to prove he's back is to run an election. I just think people need more time to either chill out, get more known, get more familiar with the answers they are misquoting, etc.

If I ever get Flash and submit something here I'd be looking for a 3.00 at the least. I couldn't bring myself to submit absolute trash and get an equally trashy Batting Average.

~nod~ I'm my biggest critic. Even once I get "good" at putting a flash together, I'll never qualify for a Time Trial. I'll spend weeks tweaking a scene to get it just where I want it.


At 8/19/04 01:11 AM, D0GMA wrote: To all of you who tossed passing scores at it, fuck off.
Damn D0GMA. You said exactly what I was thinking. I actually sat through that quiz atrocity and couldn't bring myself to watch that stupid Handbook, especially after reading the negative opinions here and the review on the very same page. Being a smartass is all well and good, but that quiz was just damn stupid.

Baaaaaaa! Vote Fifen! Baaaaa!

At 8/19/04 09:42 AM, Eldarion wrote:
Level 30 is almost impossible to get, especially for a level 9 like me. Let me do some calculations...

<snip out math>

Work it out however you like, the fact remains that it's a good system as it is representative of the fact that you are constantly increasing both your experience and your proporionate experience. I've used this example a number of times:

Your parents are 20 when you are born.
When you are 5, you are 20% of their age.
When you are 10 you are 33.33% of their age.
When you are 20, you are 50% of their age.
When you are 40, you are 66.67% of their age.
When you are 60, you are 75% of their age.

At no time are you ever any closer than 20 years younger than your parents, but your percentage constantly goes up. In the experience system, this is reflected by the fact that your base voting power is constantly increasing.

The fact that there are "levels" arbitrarily placed along the way causes people to think that more levels would actually mean something. They are simply there as a courtesy to let people have shorter range goals to attempt to achieve, as well as having predefined BBS icons.

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 13:05:21


At 8/19/04 07:22 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote:
But why in gods name arent you depositing ? I looked at your profile a few days ago and you have the same experience, i hope i didnt deposit for you for nothing.

I've deposited every day...

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 14:15:54


At 8/19/04 12:28 PM, D0GMA wrote: Just wait for it.

I know it's not going to happen overnight, and it would take James, Will, Wade and Tom a long time to get it all sorted out. I'll be waiting...

At no time are you ever any closer than 20 years younger than your parents, but your percentage constantly goes up. In the experience system, this is reflected by the fact that your base voting power is constantly increasing.

The fact that there are "levels" arbitrarily placed along the way causes people to think that more levels would actually mean something. They are simply there as a courtesy to let people have shorter range goals to attempt to achieve, as well as having predefined BBS icons.

Interesting. I never thought of it that way. When you think about it levels are just an icon and a number. It's Vote Power that matters. OMG! I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT! :)

Thanks once again D0GMA for your patient question-answering :D Still, though, it would be cool to see some new level icons, just for the sake of change.

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 15:01:54


At 8/19/04 12:28 PM, D0GMA wrote:
At 8/19/04 01:58 AM, Recon_Rebel wrote:
Yeah sure, it'll probably be worth a zero so that's what I'll vote.
If you plan on throwing a 0 at them out of spite, so be it.

Maybe you should reread my post again. The word "probably" is referring to your impending flash. If it's worth a passing score then that's what I'll give it. As for your little "spite" cheap shot, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't question the integrity of my voting. I've never questioned yours, no matter how many points you care to make.


Levels --- Badges

Chaos, panic and disorder; my work here is done.

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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 15:14:20


oh damn, i just found out about this topic, looks like i got a place to post more often, as soon as i could follow on whats goin on.

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 19:09:03


MEMBERS OF WI/HT PLEASE CHECK YOUR MAIL

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 19:13:13


At 8/19/04 07:09 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: MEMBERS OF WI/HT PLEASE CHECK YOUR MAIL

Damn im thinking the elections been cancelled, *tear*

Im hoping i'll have something to celebrate tommorow with you guys, but i'll keep you informed :)

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 19:31:20


Yes, yes I cancelled the elcetions:'-( ....or did I?
Why does everyone think I was cancelling? (maybe its becasue I was???)

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 20:08:47


Yay! Today I reach my 500th save now I only 500 more until I get 1000! Also in other news tommorow I go to level 8 I'm finally gonna get out of the bracelet levels.

Lets see... anything else... Oh! Wait... no... no other news.

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 20:23:00


At 8/19/04 07:16 PM, BonusStage wrote:
At 8/19/04 07:13 PM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote:
At 8/19/04 07:09 PM, the_phantom_spancker wrote: MEMBERS OF WI/HT PLEASE CHECK YOUR MAIL
Damn im thinking the elections been cancelled, *tear*
uh i hope not, i love congratulating people heh, COME ON EVERYONE GATHER ROUND, the answer may be soon :o

That's privileged information BonusStage. You're gonna have to bite the bullet and wait until spancker is ready to announce the winner. The funny thing is before I read spancker's latest e-mail I seriously thought he was gonna call off the election like some of you believed. I'm glad he didn't.


Levels --- Badges

Chaos, panic and disorder; my work here is done.

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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 20:36:40


Not only do I find out the results of the election, I ranked up aswell. Such an eventful day.

Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge

Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 20:37:57


At 8/19/04 08:36 PM, MPA wrote: Not only do I find out the results of the election, I ranked up aswell. Such an eventful day.

Damn, you are on your way to EGSC, won't be to much longer at the rate you are going!

Good job my good man!

Mike


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Response to Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge 2004-08-19 20:38:13


At 8/19/04 08:26 PM, BonusStage wrote: um ok, good job on that, you certainly are determined :\, but why do you not congratulate others on their accomplisments as well :(

Hmm... I guess I should start doing that... sorry. I guess I'm so determined upon my own accomplishments I forgot to congratulate others.