At 3/2/09 09:12 PM, Aci6 wrote:
At 3/2/09 08:48 PM, Narusegawa wrote:
I suggest scrapping the completely mindless listings and things such as 'rules for accepted achievements'.
Won't happen, it works too well in its current state.
Works too well? In what sense? Yes it works very well if the goal would be to archive and list everyone's achievements. If the goal would be to discuss and congratulate eachother achievements, it isn't exactly working if you ask me.
At 3/3/09 04:03 AM, Coop83 wrote:
Well, be that as it may, it's a format that works.
Then again, ask yourself in which sense it works. Look what I wrote in my response to Aci6.
Your suggestion has been noted. *looks around* No, we're going to stick with this, thanks anyway. At the end of the day, you don't have to like what the thread has evolved into. If you don't, an experienced poster such as yourself should know where the door is. This has been influenced over the years by the people who have frequented it and have contributed positively to the thread.
I am saying this in an attempt to make this a better place for everyone, high level people and low level people alike. Just because it has with time turned into this it doesn't mean that it's the best thing. Actually, the reason it has changed is because of that different users has come and gone here, resulting in these changes over time, and in my opinion corrupting this topic, more or less.
I don't know, I ain't never seen you round here before. </scruffy>
It's irrelevant.
At 3/3/09 07:04 AM, Bahamut wrote:
I respect your opinion on the LUL today, but there's a good reason why we have these guidelines and ask people to not post what aren't considered achievements here. We've had spammers in the past posting tons of crap here which aren't anything special at all (e.g. 10 blams, 100 EXP, 1300 posts, etc.) and they needed to be cut down.
I know. I stated in 'my proposed guidelines' that people shouldn't post all kinds of achievements just to raise their postcount. If they seem like unimportant achievements, whoever shares them should also say why its so important for them.
I'll admit, I'm not too bothered with those posting very low level and B/P rank achievements since they wouldn't be familiar with our policies. However, I still think they're too minor achievements since those levels are easy to reach.
If you can only come on for one hour a day and don't really know what's flaggable and not, regaining a silver whistle might be a great achievement. As I said, it's about the importance to whoever's sharing the achievement, not about the actual 'statistical worth' of the achievement.
I'm afraid that won't be happening. With the exception of spam, things are fine the way they are.
I'll say it again, I think you need to rethink what you really mean by 'fine'.
At 3/3/09 12:14 PM, Haggard wrote:
Well, I enjoy making lists and I do care about other peoples level ups.
It's easy to say. I don't know if you truthfully do or not, but if you do, I don't see a way for people to know that you do. Especially if you just write out a list identical to four others that just says the same thing, albeit in a different order, but that doesn't matter.
See above, they are guidelines, not "strict rules" that you have to follow.
But level ups like "Level 5" are just a matter of a few days and not noteworthy (in my opinion ;) ).
I know they are called 'guidelines', but I was reacting to that it was posted directly as some kind of 'follow these or get out' rules right after someone shared an achievement.
At 3/3/09 12:29 PM, Auz wrote:
At least now you know some people read your achievement and post a comment on it every now and again if they feel like it. And there are still some other discussions going on so it kinda helps making this topic serve like a regulars lounge as well.
It used to work like that people shared achievements they were happy about, and discussions about those were often integrated in a constantly ongoing bigger discussion. Now it's almost as if they've been split, like the lists are irrelevant to the discussions and they have little to do with eachother.
Although I do not really like the idea of the made-up guidelines either, I do think we should keep the congrats lists or something similar in this topic.
Sure, lists are fine, but not how they work now. Now, to most, they simply work as lists summing up 'accepted achievements' people have shared. I don't see my username mentioned in a list I knew from before I was going to be mentioned in as a 'congratulation'. You could make a bot to do that automatically for you, sum up every achievement and add them to a list.
It's just mindless listing, without care or thought, that's what I'm saying. Sometimes someone adds a comment or two next to the achievment, it's a little better but it's still far too bad. It should be more about the fun with leveling up, achieving different Newgrounds stats and discussing them with fellow Newgrounds and less about just acknowledging achievements in mindlessly compiled lists.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
