At 9/22/05 02:48 PM, ChurroNG wrote:

At 9/21/05 03:31 PM, canada_rocker wrote:

Also The war efforts of Australia and New Zealand are ignored jsut as much. If you feel the same way as i do tell me. I just dont ike seeing my grandfathers sarifices and acomplishments ignored nor the sacrifices of all his comrades ignored either.

I agree, the Anzacs did do well but were largely ignored because everyone was to busy looking at the achievements of USA and UK.

Ah, they defended Guatalcanal and many other posts in the Colonies - and I recognize em for it - as if you ever play Civilization III Conquests (I highly reccomend it), it's Britain's main unit of choice in that scenario - the best part about that game is though, that you can read up on actual history about the unit - it's very interesting.

1 more thing. If you ask me who won the war i'd say it has to be Russia

I agree, Stalingrad was <quote>" the beginning of the end for the Nazis" </quote>
Apparently 200,000 Nazis and 1,000,000 Soviets died in that battle.

They did, I wouldn't be suprised - but Russia in my opinion didn't win the war - it was the Russian winter that did =D

welcome to the crew, canada_rocker. If you post 2 more times here, then you will get the rank of Private First Class a.k.a. PFC.

At 9/22/05 07:12 PM, GeneralMBison wrote: welcome to the crew, canada_rocker. If you post 2 more times here, then you will get the rank of Private First Class a.k.a. PFC.

Finally, more members - I love it =D

At 9/22/05 07:26 PM, Nomader wrote:

At 9/22/05 07:12 PM, GeneralMBison wrote: welcome to the crew, canada_rocker. If you post 2 more times here, then you will get the rank of Private First Class a.k.a. PFC.

Finally, more members - I love it =D

It doesn't matter how many members we have, all we need are good topics. Although, it's cool to have new people, most are just drifters. However some stay, but again, we just need good topics.

At 9/22/05 07:29 PM, seventy-one wrote:

At 9/22/05 07:26 PM, Nomader wrote:

At 9/22/05 07:12 PM, GeneralMBison wrote: welcome to the crew, canada_rocker. If you post 2 more times here, then you will get the rank of Private First Class a.k.a. PFC.

Finally, more members - I love it =D

It doesn't matter how many members we have, all we need are good topics. Although, it's cool to have new people, most are just drifters. However some stay, but again, we just need good topics.

I have to agree - we do need good topics, which I believe that GeneralMBison has provided in ample supply for us.

Also, just wanted to add, that the M1 Garand is a good gun, but it can't reload until you empty a clip - a major drawback.

At 9/22/05 07:52 PM, Nomader wrote:
Also, just wanted to add, that the M1 Garand is a good gun, but it can't reload until you empty a clip - a major drawback.

But at the time it was the most accurate and reliable, if I had the choice I would choose the M1 Garand. Patton called it the greatest gun ever.

At 9/22/05 07:54 PM, seventy-one wrote:

At 9/22/05 07:52 PM, Nomader wrote:
Also, just wanted to add, that the M1 Garand is a good gun, but it can't reload until you empty a clip - a major drawback.

But at the time it was the most accurate and reliable, if I had the choice I would choose the M1 Garand. Patton called it the greatest gun ever.

True, but I still find that a problem, when you miss with one shot, and the guy simply blows you to shreds... not my type of weapon there...

At 9/22/05 09:04 PM, Nomader wrote: True, but I still find that a problem, when you miss with one shot, and the guy simply blows you to shreds... not my type of weapon there...

If you have good aim, with M1 garand you shouldn't miss, but also you should check how many shots you have and you'd be stupid to be out from cover in the first place with one shot. Compared to the other weapons that was out there I would choose the M1 garand, although you do have a point.

At 9/22/05 09:07 PM, seventy-one wrote:

At 9/22/05 09:04 PM, Nomader wrote: True, but I still find that a problem, when you miss with one shot, and the guy simply blows you to shreds... not my type of weapon there...

If you have good aim, with M1 garand you shouldn't miss, but also you should check how many shots you have and you'd be stupid to be out from cover in the first place with one shot. Compared to the other weapons that was out there I would choose the M1 garand, although you do have a point.

And I'm not really positive if you can unload it either - I mean, I can see the idea if your charging up the beaches of Normandy - that's one thing - but when your in towns, it would definitly not be my weapon of choice.

At 9/22/05 09:43 PM, Nomader wrote: And I'm not really positive if you can unload it either - I mean, I can see the idea if your charging up the beaches of Normandy - that's one thing - but when your in towns, it would definitly not be my weapon of choice.

That's why you have your trusty Colt .45 for backup. Your down on bullets, you a) fire your last one at the enemy, lets say you miss, you pull out the Colt. 45 and knock him on his feet. If he has a machine gun you shouldn't be facing him head-on anyway.

At 9/20/05 06:42 PM, redglare1 wrote:

:m16 still cant beat an ak though

OH SNAP!
you did not go thr, i even watched an hour long comparison betweet the ak und die m16, and the m-16 was better. there were things like stoping power und range, but the m16 is way bettter

At 9/22/05 10:40 PM, SHAITH_HEAD wrote:

At 9/20/05 06:42 PM, redglare1 wrote: m16 still cant beat an ak though

OH SNAP!
you did not go thr, i even watched an hour long comparison betweet the ak und die m16, and the m-16 was better. there were things like stoping power und range, but the m16 is way bettter

All right, here's my opinion on a few weapons - you'll see which one's which...

M16 - A good weapon, which has only one problem - it jams now and then.

vs.

AK47 - The weapon that has been used in the most wars in the history of man, it's advantage over the M16 is the fact it jams less - however, it's far less accurate, and the ammo clip's larger... etc.

Victor - M16!

Next up on the list:

Colt45, M1Garand Combination

The M1 Garand has one major flaw - you can't reload in the middle of a clip. However, you can do so with the Colt .45, at the horrible cost of range. It's a miss-match, that works out in the end.

vs.

Lugar, Maschinegerwehr 42

The lugar is one of the more famed weapons of the German army - however, if anyone's heard of a Maschinegerwehr 42, they must be out of their minds. The Maschinegerwehr was a German machine gun which had the largest rate of fire of all infantry weapons in WWII, and had a tripod underneath to hold it up. Consider this one of those sorts of weapons you'd find on Normandy beach, firing down on the Americans, Canadians, and Brits.

The combination of the two would be horrible for the charging opponent, but a person using the M1 Garand could just as easily knock a bullet in the head of the enemy.

Winner: Draw

Wow! That's a good idea Nomader, war tactics and weapons face-off we should incorporate that to the club.

actually the ak has more advantages the m16 is more accurate but dents and degrades easier the ak is more adaptable and can be used for any terrain by the most in experinced indiviuals even kids also the aks rear site allows both eyes open for maximum aim and an ak is nearly in destructable in vietnam vietcong hid aks under water for as long as free months and when they came back for them they still work.
also if the m16 was better why did the vietnamese beat the americans in standard infantry only battles in the tet offenseive

The thing about the AK47 is that it has a limited amount of things it can do. For example it cant launch grenades, so terrible against anything armourded. 2 it's unable to use scopes. \Its unweildy and isnt very good for clubbing and as far as im aware cant fire single shots effectively.

actually there was an updated model with a grenade launcher and it can be modified for scopes most guns can if you know a good gunsmith and it fires single shots fine i know ive used one on a range.

and nomader the russian winter was an enemy for the germans but the red army was getting stronger and stronger with each day and hitler took control of the army and was more concerned with capturing namesakes i.e ;lenningrad sevastapol stalingrad moscow minsk kiev etc and lost site of strategic battles also there was german arogance and pride when the red army started teking back soviet soil they were still regarded as sub human and as such it was determined that the superhuman ss and whermact would be embarassed if the adequete supplys and reunforcements were comitted eventually the red army overpowered the third reich and defeated the germans. 28million lost there lives in that war

Yo Red...
i'm here
So what you got in mind?

At 9/24/05 08:02 AM, the_phantom16 wrote: Yo Red...
i'm here
So what you got in mind?

well phantom how about this
since my war with maggot started with an arguement how about this we corner him he reaches for a gun
you blast his hand
and while hes on the fall i vent of my steam and argue again but i blast one of hes limbs after every point then i flip him over with my foot then we both head shot him vicecity style
how about that?

sorry fellow war crew members i just needed to talk with a mafia member in private and since no one was here i figured you wouldnt mind i'll get back on topic know.

p.s if you want to know what that was about visit the ng mafia

Sure homie...
Nice idea...
Consider it done.
It should be ready soon enough.

GeneralMBison is here.

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Lieutenant General: Nomader
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since i readed the parts after I made my last post about making new topics.
Ok, here is a new rule: When the leader is out and an officer wants to make new topics, then any officers from the rank of Lt. Colonel and above can make any topics about war or anything with war in it.

new topics ok how about this

what do you think was the worst military blunder of all time
and was to blame

are you saying its unfortunate that ww3 didnt happen or unfortunate that hes troops mutined

Someone post two weapons or tactics, that rival each other in any war...

At 9/25/05 02:14 PM, seventy-one wrote: Someone post two weapons or tactics, that rival each other in any war...

Alright - AK47 vs. M16 - which one wins out?

And also, just wanted to add, I'm sorry for my absence, but I was on a campout... yeah...

At 9/25/05 02:35 PM, Nomader wrote:

At 9/25/05 02:14 PM, seventy-one wrote: Someone post two weapons or tactics, that rival each other in any war...

Alright - AK47 vs. M16 - which one wins out?

Should we do a face-off, like you pick a gun, and I pick the other then we post our arguments, and somehow the crew decides which gun wins or something like that, or just do what you did last time?

At 9/25/05 02:37 PM, seventy-one wrote:

At 9/25/05 02:35 PM, Nomader wrote:

At 9/25/05 02:14 PM, seventy-one wrote: Someone post two weapons or tactics, that rival each other in any war...

Alright - AK47 vs. M16 - which one wins out?

Should we do a face-off, like you pick a gun, and I pick the other then we post our arguments, and somehow the crew decides which gun wins or something like that, or just do what you did last time?

Whoops - jsut realized what I did last time - exact same weapon... lol - I guess I'll compare two other things - actually ships.

WWII - Battleship vs. Carrier

I was wondering what you guys thought about these ships at their time in a comparison (don't pick one weapon vs. the other - show your arguments for both)

And sorry for that absence...

At 9/25/05 02:42 PM, Nomader wrote:
WWII - Battleship vs. Carrier

I pick the Carrier, the Battleship can't bring air support, you can bomb the hell out of coastal areas, but what good is that going to do you. With a carrier you have more flexibility, by sending the planes where you want them to go. You can stay in deep ocean enough to keep out of fire range, and launch planes to do your bidding.

And sorry for that absence...

Totally fine. I'm going to be gone for the rest of the day as well, so....adu.

its unfortunate that world war 3 didnt happen.

look no matter how powerful the ussr nuculear capabilties were the MAD(mutually assured destruction) program would be the only victor

would you agree that an American CIA collaborator inflitrated the Chernobyl Nuclear plant and sabotaged it and that is one of the main reasons for the breakup of the Soviet Union?

no as a matter of fact i wouldnt 3 men alone were to blame for that
1)the supervisor who intiated core test while ignoring safty protocals
2)the plant supervisor and the plants government correspondant conspired to stall the rescue and biohazard teams hopeing they could salvage there careers

cheynobl was a small civillian nuclear plant it had no strategic or propaganda importance to the west your infomation is was again inacurate plus the soviet union broke up in 1991 when the army overthrew the government.

At 9/25/05 11:47 AM, marchingtyrants wrote:

At 9/25/05 10:14 AM, redglare1 wrote: are you saying its unfortunate that ww3 didnt happen or unfortunate that hes troops mutined

its unfortunate that world war 3 didnt happen.

My God... this must be a sick joke... imagine the consequences...

would you agree that an American CIA collaborator inflitrated the Chernobyl Nuclear plant and sabotaged it and that is one of the main reasons for the breakup of the Soviet Union?

No. Chernobyl blew up on its own - that's why we have the NNSA (National Nuclear Security Administration) to deal with crap like that - so we don't have disasters occuring like this in foreign countries.