More reveals, including the Luvdisc evo - which they still aren't saying IS one, but look at it & seriously tell me it isn't.

The groundhog-that-evolves-from-the-chipmunk has Illuminate. Normally, this would suck, but the little blurb that followed might suggest Illuminate's effect could be altered or added onto to make it actually useful. One can only hope, since that would mean that other useless abilities could get upgrades.

At 8/8/10 10:08 AM, TheMaster wrote:

At 8/8/10 10:03 AM, Machop90 wrote: Oh yeah, and my Tyrannitar in SoulSilver has reached level 100

I'm always wary of doing that incase I ever want to change EVs. I have a level 93 Gyarados, and that's too high for my liking. Mind, realistically, Gyarados is always going to be 252 Attack, 252 Speed, so it doesn't really matter.

Ugh, this still confuses me....... I got the impression from serebii.net that it was possible to adjust EVs even after you hit Lv100, and the changes only take place when you stick them in a PC box.

I gotta get this straight before I accidentally fuck up my Pokes...... :/

At 8/8/10 08:18 PM, Swackman wrote: Ugh, this still confuses me....... I got the impression from serebii.net that it was possible to adjust EVs even after you hit Lv100, and the changes only take place when you stick them in a PC box.

I gotta get this straight before I accidentally fuck up my Pokes...... :/

Nope. Worked in older games, I believe, but definitely not in gen 4. Stats aren't recalculated until you level up, so once you hit level 100, that's it, stuck with the stats you have.

HEY a pokemon club! Awesome! I'll join. I currently have Pokemon Pearl, Soul Silver, Fire Red, and Emerald.. So I have a game for all of the different regions.. I really need to get back into playing those some more.

Anyway, what are we talking about right now, someone please, catch me up.

At 8/8/10 10:12 PM, Machop90 wrote: Yo. We don't really have uh, 'organised' discussions, we tend to roll with the punches, but right now we're talking about the first black character *scroll down to the bottom* in a Pokemon game/anime. You're welcome to join.

Ahh, okay.. Well I really don't know much about the first black character.. So I guess I can't really throw anything important into this discussion.

But, has anyone done the Arceus event in HG and SS? It's defiantly a pretty awesome event, I won't say too much for those who are about to do it, but trust me its.. eh.. Different.

Also, I AM NOT loaning out my arceus, that thing was a big pain to get and I'm not about to lose it.

At 8/8/10 10:12 PM, Machop90 wrote:
Yo. We don't really have uh, 'organised' discussions, we tend to roll with the punches, but right now we're talking about the first black character *scroll down to the bottom* in a Pokemon game/anime. You're welcome to join.

And I'm just waiting for the shitstorm to ensue.
Lately Nintendo has upped the censorship ante and is now gutting the casinos and changing skin color of human characters in order to appease the Christian Right and Carole Boston Weatherford wannabes.

At 8/8/10 11:16 PM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:

And I'm just waiting for the shitstorm to ensue.
Lately Nintendo has upped the censorship ante and is now gutting the casinos and changing skin color of human characters in order to appease the Christian Right and Carole Boston Weatherford wannabes.

Wait. What?! You mean their going to make the casino's even MORE censored?! Is that even possible?! I mean they've already gotten rid of the slots! And what do you mean their going to change the skin color of the characters? Is it really necessary?

<rant/>

Seriously though, when you have to censor an "E" rated game with literally nothing offensive in it, then the world is getting ready to come to an end.

Stupid nintendo , always censoring the bland. This is why NO nintendo games are liked by hardcore gamers.

Anyway, did all my pokmeon, started again on Diamond, All Kanto badges, Beat red, Got bulbasaur and mudkip, Accidently killed groudon (Oops), Caught Red gyradoes this time, and somehow lost my kingler.
Its not in any PC boxs, not in the daycare, and cant hink of anywhere else it could be. Any ideas guys?

At 8/8/10 11:16 PM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:
Lately Nintendo has upped the censorship ante and is now gutting the casinos and changing skin color of human characters in order to appease the Christian Right and Carole Boston Weatherford wannabes.

What the hell man?

At 8/9/10 03:24 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:

At 8/8/10 11:16 PM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:
Lately Nintendo has upped the censorship ante and is now gutting the casinos and changing skin color of human characters in order to appease the Christian Right and Carole Boston Weatherford wannabes.

What the hell man?

I don't know man, I don't know..

I'm just hoping that they don't make Black and White suck.. The games are going to (finally) have wifi battles where you can challenge any random person online.. I'll be really disappointed if they make this game suck.

My hopes for altered abilities were confirmed - they've turned Sturdy into a PERMANENT Focus Sash, meaning any Pokemon who has it isn't useless with it anymore.

Also, that Dream World thingy allows access to special Pokes with new abilities, Hydration Vappy being the first revealed one. Boy, will that be nuts in Ubers.......

At 8/8/10 09:20 PM, TheMaster wrote:

At 8/8/10 08:18 PM, Swackman wrote: Ugh, this still confuses me....... I got the impression from serebii.net that it was possible to adjust EVs even after you hit Lv100, and the changes only take place when you stick them in a PC box.

I gotta get this straight before I accidentally fuck up my Pokes...... :/

Nope. Worked in older games, I believe, but definitely not in gen 4. Stats aren't recalculated until you level up, so once you hit level 100, that's it, stuck with the stats you have.

Aw, fuck; good thing none of mine have hit there yet. Thanks for the warning.

Just why the hell did they change that, anyway?

At 8/8/10 11:16 PM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote: And I'm just waiting for the shitstorm to ensue.
Lately Nintendo has upped the censorship ante and is now gutting the casinos and changing skin color of human characters in order to appease the Christian Right and Carole Boston Weatherford wannabes.

It's shit like this that makes me miss the '90s. :'(

If GameFreak decides to switch the franchise to another handheld, I won't be surprised.

At 8/9/10 08:23 PM, Swackman wrote: It's shit like this that makes me miss the '90s. :'(

If GameFreak decides to switch the franchise to another handheld, I won't be surprised.

I don't think that has anything to do with it.
To my knowledge, most other Nintendo games aren't arbitrarily censored like they were in the 80s and 90s; this is franchise-specific. Over the years, every activist network on the face of the earth has found something to whine about in the Pokémon series, and Nintendo and Game Freak have just rolled with the punches and hacked up all the games, cards and anime so they can squeeze more cash out of unsuspecting kids without upsetting parents (while gleefully overlooking us first-gen veterans).

At 8/9/10 08:23 PM, Swackman wrote: My hopes for altered abilities were confirmed - they've turned Sturdy into a PERMANENT Focus Sash, meaning any Pokemon who has it isn't useless with it anymore.

Wow, now it's an epic ability, and not a useless piece of shit one anymore. Luckily that most of the pokemon who run with this aren't particularly fast, or else we'd be in a world of pain from them. Nevertheless, it's definitely going to bump a few Underused pokes up a bit, I think.

At 8/9/10 10:05 PM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote:

At 8/9/10 08:23 PM, Swackman wrote: It's shit like this that makes me miss the '90s. :'(

If GameFreak decides to switch the franchise to another handheld, I won't be surprised.

I don't think that has anything to do with it.
To my knowledge, most other Nintendo games aren't arbitrarily censored like they were in the 80s and 90s; this is franchise-specific. Over the years, every activist network on the face of the earth has found something to whine about in the Pokémon series, and Nintendo and Game Freak have just rolled with the punches and hacked up all the games, cards and anime so they can squeeze more cash out of unsuspecting kids without upsetting parents (while gleefully overlooking us first-gen veterans).

Trust me; I've seen other franchises getting neutered plenty.

What I meant about the '90s is that I never had to worry about soccer moms & religious douchebags ruining my cartoons. Ahhhhhhh, those were the days......

At 8/9/10 10:23 PM, ParadoxVoid wrote:

At 8/9/10 08:23 PM, Swackman wrote: My hopes for altered abilities were confirmed - they've turned Sturdy into a PERMANENT Focus Sash, meaning any Pokemon who has it isn't useless with it anymore.

Wow, now it's an epic ability, and not a useless piece of shit one anymore. Luckily that most of the pokemon who run with this aren't particularly fast, or else we'd be in a world of pain from them. Nevertheless, it's definitely going to bump a few Underused pokes up a bit, I think.

Luckily, all of them are remotely slow, and the only 2 I recall in OU are Magnezone & Skarmory.

Oh fuck, I forgot to mention a VERY important piece of info:

TMs NO LONGER DISAPPEAR AFTER USE.

No, that's not a joke.

At 8/9/10 11:59 PM, Swackman wrote: Luckily, all of them are remotely slow, and the only 2 I recall in OU are Magnezone & Skarmory.

Oh damn, this will make setting up as those two much easier though, that's for sure, and there's not as much need to worry about getting an Earthquake to the face as Magnezone and fainting in one hit any longer.

At 8/10/10 12:08 AM, Swackman wrote:

TMs NO LONGER DISAPPEAR AFTER USE.

No, that's not a joke.

Your bluffing. I am now Calling your bluff. If they did that they would have to recall EVERY GAME EVER and change the programing. Not to mention the total amount of game chaos, and the change of common knowledge that we'd all have to go through.

No way.

At 8/10/10 02:10 AM, Gamewiz wrote: Your bluffing. I am now Calling your bluff. If they did that they would have to recall EVERY GAME EVER and change the programing. Not to mention the total amount of game chaos, and the change of common knowledge that we'd all have to go through.

No way.

He's not bluffing. It's happening.

I don't even know how you come up with that conclusion. What happens in fifth gen, has no effect on fourth gen or earlier. They might even rehaul the TM list, and make sure that a Pokemon from DPPtHGSS cannot hold an item if it is going to transfer to BW.

At 8/9/10 11:59 PM, Swackman wrote: Trust me; I've seen other franchises getting neutered plenty.

This is an anomaly from those: Nintendo of America has (seemingly) lifted most of the arbitrary censorship policies it became infamous for in the 80s and 90s.

What I meant about the '90s is that I never had to worry about soccer moms & religious douchebags ruining my cartoons. Ahhhhhhh, those were the days......

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

At 8/10/10 07:44 AM, Aci6 wrote:

At 8/10/10 12:08 AM, Swackman wrote: TMs NO LONGER DISAPPEAR AFTER USE.

No, that's not a joke.

That's so silly though, what about all those good TMs? They'll just be usable over and over?

It'll reduce my motivation to do Frontier stuff. I wouldn't have touched anything outside of the Tower if I didn't want more Earthquake TMs and such.

At 8/10/10 12:08 AM, Swackman wrote: TMs NO LONGER DISAPPEAR AFTER USE.

No, that's not a joke.

can't wait, if more then one member of my team can learn phycic and/or thunder i am set... thunder never misses for me

At 8/10/10 12:07 PM, deathofghosts wrote: Thunder never misses for me

Whats your secret?! I've got a flying pikachu in my soul silver that knows Thunder and its more of a 50/50 chance than the 70% chance it's supposed to be >.<.

Also, I've heard some where that the new Pokemon games will be more directed to the older 1st gen gamers.. Of course I honestly don't know how accurate that is, but if its true than hopefully censorship won't be nearly as bad.

How'd you get flying pikachu in SS?

At 8/10/10 03:19 PM, Gamewiz wrote:

At 8/10/10 12:07 PM, deathofghosts wrote: Thunder never misses for me

Whats your secret?! I've got a flying pikachu in my soul silver that knows Thunder and its more of a 50/50 chance than the 70% chance it's supposed to be >.<.

i have no secret, i once had a 12 use thunder (PP ups) on my luxray in platinum, i was fighting in the eliet four, it missed 2 times in all 12 uses, that well over beays the sperad

i just have luck with it, there was another time where i was playing against my friend who had alot of water types, he looked at me after my 5th consecuitive thunder hit and asked " is that pokemon hacked or something?!?!"

good times

At 8/10/10 03:36 PM, chubzilla100 wrote: How'd you get flying pikachu in SS?

a pokewalker route you can't get anymore, yellow forest

How'd you get flying pikachu in SS?

a pokewalker route you can't get anymore, yellow forest

Oh... Nevermind.

Yeah when I had my Dragonair (Dragonite now :) ) I taught her Blizzard and thunder. Blizzard always missed, while Thunder did indeed always hit.

Speaking of female pokemon (Sort of(Dragnoair)) Almost all of my pokemon (Up to Elite Four) have been female, in Diamond and SS. Currently in Diamond my new game has all of its pokemon female, apart from one combee. Damn.

At 8/10/10 12:10 AM, ParadoxVoid wrote:

At 8/9/10 11:59 PM, Swackman wrote: Luckily, all of them are remotely slow, and the only 2 I recall in OU are Magnezone & Skarmory.

Oh damn, this will make setting up as those two much easier though, that's for sure, and there's not as much need to worry about getting an Earthquake to the face as Magnezone and fainting in one hit any longer.

And Lead Skarmory can eat a LeadTran's Fire attack & still set up a (2nd) layer of Spikes. LeadApe still screws it over, though.

Golem gets a similar benefit in UU as a Stealth Rocker. No more getting KO'd by a Water or Grass attack before throwing them up.

At 8/10/10 03:40 AM, HibiscusKazeneko wrote: I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Difference is, I never noticed any ridiculously stupid changes with shows back then like I do with shows now. The shit that happens now is way beyond what's necessary, while several examples you just linked to at least had some reasonable semblance of a point to them (not all of them, mind you, but some of them).

With the way things are going now, the future of the first Black Gym Leader looks rather shitty.

At 8/10/10 07:44 AM, Aci6 wrote: That's so silly though, what about all those good TMs? They'll just be usable over and over?

Maybe you'll have to 'recharge' the TMs after use or something.

So, has anyone here played the Pokemon Drinking Game? A couple of mates and I are planning on going through the first season (or as close as we can manage) on Thursday. Here are the rules if you're interested:

1. Everytime the word pokemon is said, drink.
2. Everytime pikachu says his name, drink.
3. If brock gets a boner over any female (officer jenny for example, drink.
4. If team rocket decides to show up, drink.
5. If someone is not singing along to team rockets theme song, a slap and a drink are in order for the guilty party.
6. If a pokeball is thrown, you must drink.
7. If a legendary pokemon is mentioned, drink for the sheer honour.
8. If ash turns his hat, lookout, 2 drinks for you brave soldier.
9. If psyduck makes an appearance, drink for his sheer incompetence.
10. If psyduck falls on his arse, down it
11. The first person to shout Gary is a bellend, as he appears can nominate one unlucky trooper to drink.
12. Drink everytime togepi says his name (he never shuts up)

Should be a very loose night, since this shit tends to happen a million times each episode. :D

At 8/10/10 07:42 PM, chubzilla100 wrote:

How'd you get flying pikachu in SS?

a pokewalker route you can't get anymore, yellow forest

Oh... Nevermind.

If you want one of the special Pikachu, I think I've got more than one Surfing. Only the one Flying, though. Got anything to trade?

Well on SS im working to complete the whole pokedex (Apart from the ones I cant catch or breed) so at the moment I've got most Johtos, and about 40% of kantos and shinohs.

The ones of the top of my head that you might like:
Shiny Golem Lv44
Red Gyradoes
Snoarlax Lv87
Heatran
Shaymin (Diamond)

I got a lot more, but those are the current one I can think of.

At 8/11/10 10:17 AM, TheMaster wrote:

At 8/10/10 07:42 PM, chubzilla100 wrote:

How'd you get flying pikachu in SS?

a pokewalker route you can't get anymore, yellow forest

Oh... Nevermind.

If you want one of the special Pikachu, I think I've got more than one Surfing. Only the one Flying, though. Got anything to trade?

I have yet to find a surfing Pikachu.. I'll tell you what, if I find another flying I'll trade with you.

One of the new molemon line's abilities is the Sandstorm equivalent of Swift Swim/Chlorophyll, and the other one ups the power of all Rock-, Ground-, and Steel-type moves in sand. As if SS teams weren't dominant enough, this little fella just made them nuts.

At 8/11/10 02:01 AM, ParadoxVoid wrote: So, has anyone here played the Pokemon Drinking Game? A couple of mates and I are planning on going through the first season (or as close as we can manage) on Thursday. Here are the rules if you're interested:

At that rate, you could get alcohol poisoning....... >_< Might wanna switch to Coors'.