Ill tell ya Im a republican and im proud of it. i might only be a teen but i think president bush is doing the right things in Iraq, and all that other stuff.

thanx for telling us. Imagine what would happen if everybody started a thread to tell us that theyre rupublican. go read the rules and dont waste space.

At 3/6/05 11:15 AM, Nomader wrote: Im a republican

therefore your also a ignorant idiot.

Geee, that just proves how much of an ass each and every republican can be sometimes. What is Georgie doing right in Iraq? Killing innocent civilians? Stealing their oil? Playing world police? What about Afghanistan, they hate us too for stealing their economy by lowering their opium production. Give me some reasons as to why I should think that ass is doing everything right by making us the world police.

hey i didnt even mean 2 start a thread with this u think i wanted 2 do this? i meant to put it in the republican or democrat thing but i messed up... and i cant figure out how to delete it

At 3/6/05 12:17 PM, Nomader wrote: ... and i cant figure out how to delete it

Don't worry. Lovely lesbian Maus here will do it for you.

At 3/6/05 11:21 AM, Tripnosis wrote:

At 3/6/05 11:15 AM, Nomader wrote: Im a republican

therefore your also a ignorant idiot.

You don't sound that intelligent either, buddy.

At 3/6/05 11:23 AM, Punk_clock wrote: What is Georgie doing right in Iraq? Killing innocent civilians? Stealing their oil? Playing world police?

Um... you're a dumbass.

At 3/6/05 01:06 PM, BeFell wrote:

At 3/6/05 11:23 AM, Punk_clock wrote: What is Georgie doing right in Iraq? Killing innocent civilians? Stealing their oil? Playing world police?

Um... you're a dumbass.

Wow, I'm a dumbass? hehe, thats all you can say. Wow, talk about an idiot. Picking the newest one and calling him a dumbass because he thinks that something is wrong with our reasons for going into Iraq? Get a life moron. I'll be happy to give you stats showing that what I'm saying is whats really going on. And yes, we are playing world police, so stop being an ass. Tell me something meaningful, not that I'm a dumbass. Stupid republicans.

At 3/6/05 01:13 PM, Punk_clock wrote:

At 3/6/05 01:06 PM, BeFell wrote:

At 3/6/05 11:23 AM, Punk_clock wrote: What is Georgie doing right in Iraq? Killing innocent civilians? Stealing their oil? Playing world police?

Um... you're a dumbass.

Wow, I'm a dumbass? hehe, thats all you can say. Wow, talk about an idiot. Picking the newest one and calling him a dumbass because he thinks that something is wrong with our reasons for going into Iraq? Get a life moron. I'll be happy to give you stats showing that what I'm saying is whats really going on. And yes, we are playing world police, so stop being an ass. Tell me something meaningful, not that I'm a dumbass. Stupid republicans.

Wow your little rant is really pathetic, at least learn how to swear or something.

Let's take a look at your "statistics," http://www.iraqbodycount.net/database/. Oh was that the site you were going to spring on me to completely boggle my mind?

So let's just take a look at your examples of Bush killing civilians provided by every liberals favorite website.

I linked the page that shows an incident by incident breakdown of their count and on the entire page there are only 4 deaths out of 138 that American soldiers are responsible for: 2 were in a terrorists hold out that was blown up and more than likely terrorists themselves, 1 was in a car accident with a military vehicle and another ignored warnings from a military vehicle and kept approaching.

Yes indeed I can see how you think we are just over there masecaring people nevermind the sources showing the terrorists blowing up civilians at a time with bombs.

I suggest you go get a crowbar and work the best you can to pry your head from your ass.

Wow your little rant is really pathetic, at least learn how to swear or something.

Let's take a look at your "statistics," http://www.iraqbodycount.net/database/. Oh was that the site you were going to spring on me to completely boggle my mind?

So let's just take a look at your examples of Bush killing civilians provided by every liberals favorite website.

I linked the page that shows an incident by incident breakdown of their count and on the entire page there are only 4 deaths out of 138 that American soldiers are responsible for: 2 were in a terrorists hold out that was blown up and more than likely terrorists themselves, 1 was in a car accident with a military vehicle and another ignored warnings from a military vehicle and kept approaching.

Yes indeed I can see how you think we are just over there masecaring people nevermind the sources showing the terrorists blowing up civilians at a time with bombs.

I suggest you go get a crowbar and work the best you can to pry your head from your ass.

Thats what you republicans need to do. You obviously didn't get what I was saying. Remember when we started attacking? Remember when we were senslessly dropping bombs everywhere? Oh no, you didn't see THAT footage, you were too damn busy watching fox. Anyway, your stats are partially right. Many people were killed by the bombs, but that's not all. So many poor Iraqis had their houses blown up. The innocent civilians were unfairly put into this. Also, we are playing world police whether you like it or not. We got involved with Afghanistan, and it's still warlord heaven, we attacked Iraq, nothing is better there besides the election (because of which, we should be out of Iraq by now).

At 3/6/05 11:21 AM, Tripnosis wrote:

therefore your also a ignorant idiot.

Ignoring the humour of saying "your a idiot"... actually that's all to say because your post has no point whatsoever.

At 3/6/05 01:42 PM, Punk_clock wrote: We got involved with Afghanistan, and it's still warlord heaven, we attacked Iraq, nothing is better there besides the election (because of which, we should be out of Iraq by now).

And you know this for sure.... how?

How do I know there are still warlords in Afghanistan? Look at websites and the news. My world cultures teacher says that there are warlords in many parts of Afghanistan still, while Kabul is this big touristy attraction. I'll find a good website saying so, but my world cultures teacher isn't dumb.

I'm still waiting for Lovely Lesbian Maus. Meanwhile, I'm partially enjoying the sudden noobishness.

Sure be proud of being a republican. Be proud of you f*cking republican president Bush. I'm not an america and I'm happy of that. Be pround of america were people die every day, were people are getting more stupid than in any other country in the world. Be proud! God bless america!!

At 3/6/05 04:54 PM, Maciej_Leczowski wrote: Sure be proud of being a republican. Be proud of you f*cking republican president Bush. I'm not an america and I'm happy of that. Be pround of america were people die every day, were people are getting more stupid than in any other country in the world. Be proud! God bless america!!

DAmn right, and i live in NY

*sigh*

How come people these days think that Republican means "For the war in Iraq" and Democrat means "Against the war in Iraq"? I've got to tell you, there's more to life than what's going on in Iraq.

Yes, I admit, the traditional position on the war in Iraq is that we should stop it right now. But there's a reason for that. It's not because "boohoo, iraqis are getting killed" (although death never is a nice thing), it's because we're in the wrong country. The major centor of Islamic terrorists is in Afghanistan. So even if we are going to hold a war, it shouldn't be in Iraq.

But that doesn't mean that there's this uniform set of beliefs one must follow to be a Democrat or a republican. Just because someone's a Democrat or Republican, doesn't mean they share a specific view with their party on a specific issue, it's more of a moral mindset.

I'm a Democrat, but that doesn't mean I don't agree with the war on Iraq. In my view, there are a bunch of third world countries out there, and if we don't stop their insane violent oppressive and poverty crushed society before it gets its hands on a nuclear bomb (Like Iran is getting right now), then we're probably screwed.

Lots of people have screwed up ideas about what the Democratic party's position is (most Republicans and neutrals have this idea that the Democrats are a bunch of tree-hugging sissy hippies or just another corrupt media monster) and who the Republicans are (most Democrats and neutrals somehow got it into their brain that all Republicans are violent, stupid, southerners who have yet to grasp on to modern ideas of freedom and equality).

What do Democrats and Republicans really believe in?
A quick overview of some hot topics by Me. I have purposely tried to make the Republican viewpoint sound sensible and understandable, which it is. The Democratic viewpoint often refutes the Republican viewpoint, and while I blame that on bias, I also blame it on it being the truth. The point is that I accurately related which Party has which position, and that both arguments are the one most commonly made by their parties.

Abortion
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Republican
There is nothing more important than a human life, abortion is essentially murder with a pretty name and shouldn't be allowed.

Democrat
A women should have control over her own body, and whether she has a child or not, if the Republicans really cared about the child's life that much, they would support pre and post natal care, and government funded health care for infants, which they don't.

Welfare
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Republican
People should earn their own money. If they're poor, that's their own fault. This is America. They should get a job and work themselves up from the ground like everyone does. Welfare just discourages them from getting a job.

Democrat
Not everyone who is poor is that way because they're lazy, or stupid. The poor in this nation are that way because they were born into a poor family, and homeless people can't exactly just "go out and get a job" if they look like they haven't eaten in days, and smell like they haven't showered in days. Welfare is important so people can work their way off of the ground

Taxes
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Republicans
Let's keep taxes low. People who earn their money should be able to keep it. Income taxes are already brutal as it is. Every American should have the right to earn money and keep it. They shouldn't be run into the ground by the government.

Democrats
Let's tax the rich and have low taxes for the poor. Remember that people get full deductions for charities, so if the rich were actually using that money to good cause, they wouldn't get taxed so much, but that's not how it happens. The reason the taxes should most effect the rich is because the money usually just lays around in the bank, and instead should go to good use. Remember that taxes have gave us: The highway system, the internet, funding for our schools, money for the sciences and space exploration, funding for medical research, funding for hospitals and law enforcement, food for the hungry. The list goes on and on. The government can actually use that money to a good cause.

Gay Marriage
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Republicans
No way should homosexuals be allowed to marry!

Democrats
Who the hell cares?

The Death Penelty
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Republicans
Let's cook some criminals. We shouldn't be spending the nations money to feed the worst criminals for the rest of their life.

Democrats
No way. Death as a punishment should constitute as a cruel and unusual punishment. Killing someone to get some sick, egotistical revenge doesn't make any sense.

Workers' rights
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Republicans
Let's take away their right to a lunch break and keep minimum wage low. Hey, if the corporations make more money, they'll pay their employees more anyway, right?

Democrats
How is keeping minimum wage low going to make the corporations pay the workers more? Trickle-down economics (the theory that rich companies will spread wealth to their employees) doesn't work, because the owners of the company hoarde the excess money, or just use it to open more stores and treat their workers just as bad. Workers deserve higher minimum wage, their lunch break, more rights under the company, and companies need to be open about their wages. Listing wages will force-prevent salary bias based on sex, race, or religion, also the companies which treat and pay their workers best will flourish, because the jobless will be able to compare wages easily. Treating American workers as trash is not what I call patriotic or morally correct.

Exporting Labor
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Republican
Exporting Labor is a trade barrier which prevents efficient foreign economics, and should be allowed in all forms.

Democrats
Exporting Labor should be allowed except when the employees paid in other countries are employees in Sweatshops. The people in China should be able to get better jobs than $2 worth of pay per hour, they're human too, and promoting low-wage labor to manufacture products on the cheap will only keep the sweatshops going

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Okay, it's not the most well rounded thing. But at least half the people here think that a political party is only related to one's position in Iraq. That's not right, and I think I needed to explain a few of the issues here. A little biased I may be, sure, but in that case, just assume that I'm presenting the Democratic viewpoint of these issues, just so you know where the Democrats stand, and that it's not just "against Iraq".

Can anyone tell me their proof the war was for oil. How about enforcing the treaties of the U.N.? The U.N. had 16 resolutions against Iraq. Can a liberal tell me why it is ok not to enforce them. Why is it ok to ignore treaties? What is the point of having treaties if they are not enforced? Ill tell you why its not okay, the world didnt enforce WWI treaties against Germany that limited military production, and look what happened. So tell me why its ok to let countries violate treaties.

At 3/6/05 11:15 AM, Nomader wrote: Ill tell ya Im a republican and im proud of it. i might only be a teen but i think president bush is doing the right things in Iraq, and all that other stuff.

Congratulations someone should give you an award for wasting the most space on NG BBS.

At 3/6/05 07:43 PM, Kieland wrote: Congratulations someone should give you an award for wasting the most space on NG BBS.

You must not go to the General forums much.

At 3/6/05 07:31 PM, Chris1985 wrote:

:So tell me why its ok to let countries violate treaties.

Funny, that's the first thing I thought when the US went into Iraq without the permission of the UN.

guys, shut up! He is allowed to have a political opinion, and while he was stupid on posting it in the politics forum, he is not an "ignorant idiot" for supporting Bush. Bush is...silly...but that does not mean that this dude is ignorant for liking him. Think next time before insulting people's personal opinions.

Hehehehe, if Democrat meant against the war, then how is Kerry a Democrat? Lololol. I hate Kerry almost as much as I hate Bush. All the Democrats that are running are only good for one thing.... kissing up to the Republicans. I'm sick of politicians in this country as of now, but one thing is, I'm not "dumb". I really hate it how just because you don't agree with me, that I'm stupid. That is how most conservatives are. I do happen to know many places outside of Kabul are being run by warlords and we can't do jack shit about it because we're too damn lazy. Anyway, please argue a point that proves me wrong. All I get from you conservatives is mindless BS, and I'm sure you have your facts backing up your opinion, so state them unless you're too damn stuck up of yourself.

Calling someone a dumbass based on their political orientation is spiteful and ignorant. I am an independent, so I have been called a "communist" by republicans and a "fascist" by democrats (LoL). Face it folks, both parties are totally corrupt and hopelessly beyond recovery. I find many conservatives are stuck-up and judgemental, but I also find that many liberals are hate-filled and demonizing. I tend to think more like a republican, but I agree with democrats on some issues. By the way, that lecture by Skizor wasn't exactly "impartial" (LoL). ~.^

Tell me something meaningful, not that I'm a dumbass.

Ok. You're a tree hugging, pot smokin, Kerry votin, baby killin dumbass.

At 3/6/05 10:42 PM, Punk_clock wrote: Hehehehe, if Democrat meant against the war, then how is Kerry a Democrat? Lololol. I hate Kerry almost as much as I hate Bush. All the Democrats that are running are only good for one thing.... kissing up to the Republicans. I'm sick of politicians in this country as of now, but one thing is, I'm not "dumb". I really hate it how just because you don't agree with me, that I'm stupid. That is how most conservatives are. I do happen to know many places outside of Kabul are being run by warlords and we can't do jack shit about it because we're too damn lazy. Anyway, please argue a point that proves me wrong. All I get from you conservatives is mindless BS, and I'm sure you have your facts backing up your opinion, so state them unless you're too damn stuck up of yourself.

You apparently didn't read any of my post. Or you would know that it was specifically to refute the claim that Democrat always meant against the war. And please, don't be so egotistical, I'm not here to "prove" you wrong. It really doesn't matter to me what your specific opinions about Iraq are. And if you want everyone to include proof so bad, you could start by providing some proof yourself.

One thing I do agree with you on, Bush certainly is screwing around in Iraq. If he had a bit of intelligence, he'd do a strike on Afghanistan, and he'd have just bombed them to the ground. Take care of those warlords, and the entire damn misinformed population. Then maybe we could nuke iran, and then iraq, then north korea, and then Pakistan if we're in a good mood. Oh yah, I'm sure the rest of the world would like that. The U.S. would be toast as soon as it started bombing the countries on the U.N. Or on the other side, we could just sit back, do nothing, wait for them to get their hands on some nukes, and get bombed to death there. Hell, we're probably still going to get bombed to death now anyway, Iran is getting a nuke right now. Who're we kidding, no matter what we do, we get nuked. But at least if we go in there and smack them up a good bit, we get a good bit of satisfaction before we sizzle away in crispy ashes, yes, the victims will literally be vaporized before they know what the hell is going on, but at least we stopped some of those those damn suspected terrorists with suspected relations to Al-Qaida and other suspected Terrorist organizations!

I sympathise with American citizens for having the most horrible choice of all - Republicans or Democrats?

Anyway, it's fine to be a republican. But George W Bush, in my opinion, is just as dangerous to society as any "Islamic terrorist".

God this makes me laugh. It's like dinner and a movie, except there's no movie and it's 3:59. Anyway I'll throw in my two cents. Now not all Republicans are bad, some are cool. Now I don't like what Bush is doing in Iraq, but Bush shouldn't just be the one who gets the blame, if I remember right from my American History class that congress has to approve of the war...thing. DAMMIT THERE GOES MY VOCABULARY! Anyway, people should calm the fuck down, it's to late to bitch about it know because there is no way to go back 2 years and stop the war from happening.

P.S. Why can't we all just get along? Actually don't this stuff is too enjoyable.

Hmm... no signals of Lovely Lesbian Maus yet... I guess this thread is staying, then.

Anyways, didn't mean to interrupt, go on with the n00bishness, it's fun.