At 3/1/06 02:28 AM, MasterStalker wrote: Well, I finished the Bourne Identity series

It sounds intriguing. Tell me, do the movies do the books justice? or should I just read the books and forget about the movies.

At 3/1/06 04:31 AM, Coop83 wrote:

At 3/1/06 02:28 AM, MasterStalker wrote: Well, I finished the Bourne Identity series

It sounds intriguing. Tell me, do the movies do the books justice? or should I just read the books and forget about the movies.

FUCK THE MOVIES! Please save your self the pain of the movies... No, wait, read the first book, than watch the first movie. trust me, you'll hate the movie if you read the book first. I want to go inter the entertainment industry just to remake the movie to do better justices to the books. I think Ludlum rolled over twice in his grave after hollywood took his best selling character and pissed on him.

At 3/1/06 06:18 AM, MasterStalker wrote: FUCK THE MOVIES! Please save your self the pain of the movies... No, wait, read the first book, than watch the first movie. trust me, you'll hate the movie if you read the book first. I want to go inter the entertainment industry just to remake the movie to do better justices to the books. I think Ludlum rolled over twice in his grave after hollywood took his best selling character and pissed on him.

*Image of Ludman rotating slowly in his grave like a kebab*

Okay, I shall do that, just write me a review first.

At 3/1/06 06:19 AM, Coop83 wrote:

At 3/1/06 06:18 AM, MasterStalker wrote: FUCK THE MOVIES! Please save your self the pain of the movies... No, wait, read the first book, than watch the first movie. trust me, you'll hate the movie if you read the book first. I want to go inter the entertainment industry just to remake the movie to do better justices to the books. I think Ludlum rolled over twice in his grave after hollywood took his best selling character and pissed on him.

*Image of Ludman rotating slowly in his grave like a kebab*

Okay, I shall do that, just write me a review first.

you got it, It'll take a little time though because I was planning to review the whole series and both movie comparisons at the same time. I'll post it in about half an hour.

At 3/1/06 06:26 AM, MasterStalker wrote: you got it, It'll take a little time though because I was planning to review the whole series and both movie comparisons at the same time. I'll post it in about half an hour.

Take your time, I'd like to think that it all gets a proper airing.

Sorry, I kind fell asleep at the keyboard yesterday, but here's my reviews. Trust me, I didnt do them nearly enough justice, but I want to leave a little for you to find out when you decide to read them. I would seriously love to hear from some one else i know about what they though about the book

The Bourne Identity
The story starts with a near-dead man being fished out of the icy waters of the Meditteranian Sea by a fishing boat just ouside of a back-wash town outside of Marseille. Immediately, the man recieved medical treatment from an english doctor. Though the bamage to the mans body was great, the damage to his mind was greater. The shock of the near freezing water, combined with a bullet wound in the head has caused fully loss of memory. The only clue to his past is photographic film implanted into his hip with the number for a bank accound deposit box in Zurich. Now this man, Jason Bourne must find out who he is, all the while being chased by an army of trained assassins lead by Carlos the Jackle, and the United States CIA.

Book V. Movie, "The Bourne Identity"
The movie had very little to do with the book. The only similarity was the main character's name, which wasnt even his real name. In the book "Jason Bourne" is an alias, David Webb is his real name. And the VERY beginning is similar with the being fished out of the water, and the film implant. The rest they kinda just "winged it."

The Bourne Supremacy
Second installment of the Bourne series takes place five years after The Bourne Identity. Jason Bourne, AKA David Webb, is lured into East Asia by his own government in a cleaver, yet inhumane plot to stop a maniac bent on nuclear war, and killing an imposter Bourne. The Bait to lure him to the far east is the kidnapping of his wife Marie, who helped him escape the Jackle 5 years earlier. So now Bourne is on the run again, this time trying to save his wife while hunting a madman and his psychopathic imitation Bourne, while trying to keep his mind from slipping away.

Book V. Movie, "The Bourne Supremacy"
The second movie had nothing to do with any of the books at all, in any way. This movie would have probably drove Ludlum to suicide it was so bad compared to his book, which was a work of art.

The Bourne Ultimatum
The third installment of the Bourne Series takes place 10 years after the Bourne Supremacy. The Jackle is back, and wants to kill Bourne, the man who he failed to kill, and almost lost his life to. Bourne is now a 50 year old man, and has two kids, Jamie(4) and Allysa(6 months). The jackle is dying and has pulled all the stops to kill his rival. Now Bourne has to hunt down and kill the force which tries to harm his family, while dealing with the handicaps that come with his age, and chase the Jackle from America, to the Caribean, to Paris, and to Moscow. On top of all of this, he has to deal with the mafia and the Jackle's vast network of minions in a very dangerous game of cat and mouse.

The Bourne Legacy
Robert Ludlum had passed away, so This one was written by Eric Van Lustbader, another international best seller. In this one, Bourne is framed for the murder of his two best friends, Mo Panov, his psycologist since after his memory loss, and Alex Conklin, the man who trained him in an underground deathsquad during the Vietnam War after the death of his first wif and children. Now he must run for his life because of a world wide sanction put out by the Director of Central Intelligence, and a mysterious assassin named Kahn who claims to be his son Joshua who everyone thought died at the age of 6 in Pomn Peh when a rogue fighter jet gunned down his first family.

Comparing the authors, Ludlum V. Lustbader
I think Lustbader wis very good at keeping Jason Boune the Way Ludlum portrayed him. I actually forgot Ludlum didnt write the book a few times, but there were some things Lustbader didnt add. In the Bourne Ultimatum, Bourne was feeling the full efects of his age, but in the Bourne Legacy, it seemed as though nothing he did phased him, nomatter how badly how got injured, or what he did, even though he should be a 60 year old man by now. Lustbader is definitely a great writer, but he fails in comparison to Ludlum in my opinion.

At 3/2/06 08:05 AM, MasterStalker wrote: The Bourne Identity

Wow, I am convinced, I've ordered Boure Identity from play, alonmg with the autobiography of Rik Mayall: Bigger than Hitler, better than Jesus. He's a funny guy, so I'll give that a read.

At 3/2/06 08:28 AM, Coop83 wrote:

At 3/2/06 08:05 AM, MasterStalker wrote: The Bourne Identity

Wow, I am convinced, I've ordered Boure Identity from play.

Finally, some one takes my opinion on something! yeah, it is a pretty good series. I'm currently starting to read the Tristan Betrayal by Ludlum, it's not going to be the same without Bourne, but it should still be pretty good. Then I'll read either The Davinci Code, or Without Remorse by Tom Clancy. I have Rainbow 6 By Tom Clancy, but refuse to read it because the inside cover says the leader of Rainbow, was the main character of Without Remorse.

At 3/2/06 09:13 AM, MasterStalker wrote: Then I'll read either The Davinci Code, or Without Remorse by Tom Clancy. I have Rainbow 6 By Tom Clancy, but refuse to read it because the inside cover says the leader of Rainbow, was the main character of Without Remorse.

I'm thinking of giving Chris Ryan a go and reading his Bravo Two-Zero series. That was something which sounded really enthralling when I read about it in the papers a few years back.

At 3/3/06 09:05 AM, Coop83 wrote:
I'm thinking of giving Chris Ryan a go and reading his Bravo Two-Zero series. That was something which sounded really enthralling when I read about it in the papers a few years back.

I beleive i wrote a Bravo-Two-Zero, review a long time ago in here. It's actually quite a good read. There's quite a bit of action, and some of the deaths in the book, do really tug at your indides. The torture parts also, shit. The stuff those guys went through, was terrible, but it's a good thing they were british, because we are hardcore :)

I'm reading Haunted at the moment, by Chuck Palanhuik (spelling? fuck it). It's not so bad at all, kind of twisted and degrading, but it does take you into that world of sicknes, if you're into that sort of thing.

At 3/5/06 10:44 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: I beleive i wrote a Bravo-Two-Zero, review a long time ago in here. It's actually quite a good read. There's quite a bit of action, and some of the deaths in the book, do really tug at your indides. The torture parts also, shit. The stuff those guys went through, was terrible, but it's a good thing they were british, because we are hardcore :)

The British Army is the best in the world. For the SAS, we take a group of psychopaths with anger management problems and we teach them self control, focus and how to use weapons. When we let them out on the battlefield, they are so effective, that we have earnt the reputation of the best regiment in the world.

If only the Americans would learn this is the better alternative to death row.

Hopefully, my copy of the Bourne Identity will arrive today :)

At 3/6/06 06:17 AM, Coop83 wrote:

At 3/5/06 10:44 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: I beleive i wrote a Bravo-Two-Zero, review a long time ago in here. It's actually quite a good read. There's quite a bit of action, and some of the deaths in the book, do really tug at your indides. The torture parts also, shit. The stuff those guys went through, was terrible, but it's a good thing they were british, because we are hardcore :)

oh, you mean like those idiots on shawn of the dead? lol

The British Army is the best in the world. For the SAS, we take a group of psychopaths with anger management problems and we teach them self control, focus and how to use weapons. When we let them out on the battlefield, they are so effective, that we have earnt the reputation of the best regiment in the world.

damn tea drinkers... you cant beat the US! just kidding. and I prefer tea so I just damned myself.

If only the Americans would learn this is the better alternative to death row.

not american, Southerners. the rest of the country is getting rid of the deat penalty, Texas wants an express lane. XD

Hopefully, my copy of the Bourne Identity will arrive today :)

I thought it was very impressive. hell, if you read them one after another, you wont know what to do with your self for like the week or so after you've finished.

At 3/6/06 06:33 AM, MasterStalker wrote: not american, Southerners. the rest of the country is getting rid of the deat penalty, Texas wants an express lane. XD

Sorry, didn't mean to tar you all with the same brush.

I thought it was very impressive. hell, if you read them one after another, you wont know what to do with your self for like the week or so after you've finished.

If I do that, my brain will melt and start to dribble out of my ears.

At 3/6/06 06:36 AM, Coop83 wrote:

At 3/6/06 06:33 AM, MasterStalker wrote: not american, Southerners. the rest of the country is getting rid of the deat penalty, Texas wants an express lane. XD

Sorry, didn't mean to tar you all with the same brush.

doesnt bother me. When most people think internationally, thy tend to do that so I dont really care. I do the same thing to some times though I still know everyone is an individual with their own thought and views. besides, it's just text on a screen, I doubt it seriously hurt me or anything.

I thought it was very impressive. hell, if you read them one after another, you wont know what to do with your self for like the week or so after you've finished.

If I do that, my brain will melt and start to dribble out of my ears.

yeah, but its worth it. just avoid stepping in your brain puddles and you'll be alright.

At 3/6/06 06:59 AM, MasterStalker wrote: yeah, but its worth it. just avoid stepping in your brain puddles and you'll be alright.

It's worse when I disagree with someone, as I shake my head and people get coated in intelligent mush.

Moby Dick by Herman Melville:

This classic story by Herman Melville revolves around Captain Ahab and his obsession with a huge whale, Moby Dick. The whale caused the loss of Ahab's leg years before, leaving Ahab to stomp the boards of his ship on a peg leg. Ahab is so crazed by his desire to kill the whale, that he is prepared to sacrifice everything, including his life, the lives of his crew members, and even his ship to find and destroy his nemesis, Moby Dick.

While the story was fascinating the book itself was pretty boring... I would only recommend this book to somebody who is willing to sit through a long book which strays from the story every now and then...

Hey there ppl,Im back after...two years?
Anyway how are you all? (yes short but meh)

Ooh, I get it, so you chaps read, review and comment on fine literature from around the world?
I'd be glad to stop by here now and then. At the moment I'm ploughing my way through the completely unabridged edition of Stephen King's The Stand.
On reflection I really should have gone for the edited version.

At 3/28/06 02:49 PM, -TheDoctor- wrote: Ooh, I get it, so you chaps read, review and comment on fine literature from around the world?
I'd be glad to stop by here now and then. At the moment I'm ploughing my way through the completely unabridged edition of Stephen King's The Stand.
On reflection I really should have gone for the edited version.

Ah, Hey the Doctor you did Immortals didnt you?
Well right now Im reading Phillp Pullmans Dark Materials,On the second one'The Subtle Knife' and I realised I should of read them sooner,A good read the first one was.
I give it 4/5 Thumbs up :)

At 3/28/06 01:40 PM, LordSkeletor wrote: Hey there ppl,Im back after...two years?
Anyway how are you all? (yes short but meh)

Welcome back Skeletor. Good to see you about again.

I've now started reading the Bourne Identity and it's making my brain itch.

Hey there coop! :) how are you these day (lvl15....bastard :P)

At 3/29/06 07:18 AM, LordSkeletor wrote: Hey there coop! :) how are you these day (lvl15....bastard :P)

Well, since your last stint on NG, I've got a new job and now I work 9-5 in an office, keeping me out of trouble (most of the time)

Level 15 only comes from depositing (almost) every day for two years. I'm gunning to get higher up the ladder in amongst the uber-cool weaponry now.

Cool :) (Nice to see 'The book club' still in your sig ^^)

At 3/29/06 07:29 AM, LordSkeletor wrote: Cool :) (Nice to see 'The book club' still in your sig ^^)

It's one of those clubs I have which I like people to know about. I like using the old saying 'You seem to like books, click the Book Club link in my sig' and other similar things, as it has worked in the past, it will probably work again.

Still into RP? *hint hint* (I know its off topic....but meh)

At 3/29/06 09:00 AM, LordSkeletor wrote: Still into RP? *hint hint* (I know its off topic....but meh)

My RP book collection is HUGE as always. I've moved to World of Warcraft, but I am still playing the classics, like D&D and a few others.

Good good.Havent got out my D&D in a while...I should :)

Still into online rpgs? *Cough join mine Cough*

At 3/30/06 06:48 AM, LordSkeletor wrote: Still into online rpgs? *Cough join mine Cough*

Not really, I'm playing World of Warcraft, which gives me all I need (along with my regular Sunday group) Trust me, RPing at the pub while drunk is one of the funniest things you can do.

At 3/30/06 06:57 AM, Coop83 wrote:

At 3/30/06 06:48 AM, LordSkeletor wrote: Still into online rpgs? *Cough join mine Cough*

Not really, I'm playing World of Warcraft, which gives me all I need (along with my regular Sunday group) Trust me, RPing at the pub while drunk is one of the funniest things you can do.

lol,Ill give that a try one day :P

A new book landed on my Doorstep on Saturday Morning: THE Rik Mayall, Bigger than Hitler, Better than Christ.

I'm not a big reader of autobiographies, but his is very funny (I've only read about 50 pages, because I'm laughing so much.)