At 11/22/04 02:21 AM, SeeD419 wrote: I have no idea. How does a batting average sound? It's a thing Wade would have to change first though, you can't even vote on audio more than once. There's no review count and no review total. There's also no download count. Now, you could just take any of the previous stats and make it into a top 50 or something. I think that would be pretty cool. It just really seems to me like something sk isnt going to do though...

With the current voting system, it would be a travesty. I've submitted stuff recently that deserves a 3+ score (not big-headed, honest <-me), but because there are submitters who do vote on music regularly, and presumably don't like competition, within a couple of days, it was down to 2-.
The audio portal system really annoys me, it needs a massive overhaul (and I'm not submitting anything else there until it gets one). Personally, I think there should be a blam/protect system over there that gets added to your Flash BP - some of the crap that gets through is just cluttering up the place and preventing good submissions from being heard.
I spent nearly a WHOLE DAY finding 8 suitable audio clips for Overrun, because some of the best stuff is buried well below Page 1 for its category. And a lot of the stuff on Page 1 of a category is utter shite that shouldn't have ever been allowed to stay on the AP.
The author's comments are too restricted to allow enough detail to make the AP search any use. Ugh, it's a great idea, with great potential, but it's underused and underappreciated because it's just not user-friendly enough. With some encouragement (eg a BP system), the AP could become one of the best resources for home-grown music and songs on the net.
I know liljim has plans for some upgrades on it, I just hope he gets them in place relatively soon, and that they go some way to improving things for both the submitters and the flash authors that use the loops

Sorry SK for going off on a totally irrelevant rant in your thread. It's just something I feel strongly about, my primary skill being music.

At 11/22/04 06:50 AM, XwaynecoltX wrote:

At 11/21/04 11:35 AM, ramagi wrote:
Change in that case is number of reviews since his last update.

Ok cool hey im getting better at reading this list heh, only 61 reviews since the last one thats like really low heh, anyways thanks...

~X~

If you look at the list 61 isn't that low.

At 11/22/04 08:30 AM, ramagi wrote: If you look at the list 61 isn't that low.

Well for me it is since that would be a daly review count for me back in the day, but im getting back into the swing of things as im becoming more active so things are looking up from all fronts well mainly posts and reviews...

~X~

At 11/22/04 07:02 AM, Denvish wrote: With the current voting system, it would be a travesty. I've submitted stuff recently that deserves a 3+ score (not big-headed, honest <-me), but because there are submitters who do vote on music regularly, and presumably don't like competition, within a couple of days, it was down to 2-.

Yeah, I've gotten screwed over many times. Most of my songs have pretty low scores too. The most downloads I've ever had on a song was like...136 or something pathetic. And nobody barely reviews it because the reviews don't even count in your profile! I think it's ridiculous.

The audio portal system really annoys me, it needs a massive overhaul (and I'm not submitting anything else there until it gets one).

Assuming that It does get one. I would be the happiest man alive if it did. Never really had a talent for flash, heh. I'm one of those people who draw sticks....but worse.

Personally, I think there should be a blam/protect system over there that gets added to your Flash BP - some of the crap that gets through is just cluttering up the place and preventing good submissions from being heard.

I've never agreed more, that would definately be a kick ass solution. That would keep most of the crap audio out, and benefit users with stats for voting and reviewing audio. They don't even have a Top 50 over there, its really sad. Not to mention the fact that you can only vote on the same song once, not even if it's a new day.

I spent nearly a WHOLE DAY finding 8 suitable audio clips for Overrun, because some of the best stuff is buried well below Page 1 for its category. And a lot of the stuff on Page 1 of a category is utter shite that shouldn't have ever been allowed to stay on the AP.

It's probably idiots voting on their own audio, seeing as how nobody ever does. If you vote once on your own audio and give it a five, it'll climb all the way to the top (shut up, I only tried it once). Basically, someone could submit utter shit, and with the click of a button, it's all of the sudden the best song. Ofcourse, that is until the next guy does it.

The author's comments are too restricted to allow enough detail to make the AP search any use. Ugh, it's a great idea, with great potential, but it's underused and underappreciated because it's just not user-friendly enough. With some encouragement (eg a BP system), the AP could become one of the best resources for home-grown music and songs on the net.

Definately. The comments give you barely any room to talk about the song at all. I say at least a paragraph would be enough for me. I also think you should have a better audio profile. When somebody clicks on your audio, you get a name and a list of songs. I think there should be a picture, and an author description. I realize we have profiles already, but at least a little into paragraph about your instruments, upcoming plans, music style, and whatever. Problem is, how do I/we help this happen? I sent an e-mail to Wade ages ago asking about this, he ignored it. He replied to all of my e-mails except ones relating to the audio portal.

I know liljim has plans for some upgrades on it, I just hope he gets them in place relatively soon, and that they go some way to improving things for both the submitters and the flash authors that use the loops

Wow, that's really good to hear man. Glad somebody knows the scoop! Keep me updated if you can!

Sorry SK for going off on a totally irrelevant rant in your thread. It's just something I feel strongly about, my primary skill being music.

Yeah, I apologize too. I just had to reply to this though. My primary skill is also music, if it didn't already show in my profile, so I'm a strong supporter of the audio portal.

i cant believe with only 920 reviews im in 34th place,it feels like i havent been doin that much but oh well its all good,im real proud of all my stats (execpt the batting average :( )

no updates for a WHOLE drugs? you on drugs? hope gfox and d0gma don't run away for a month too :P

At 11/23/04 03:18 AM, Syme wrote: no updates for a WHOLE drugs?

whole MONTH i mean. it late :P

At 11/23/04 03:18 AM, Syme wrote: no updates for a WHOLE drugs? you on drugs? hope gfox and d0gma don't run away for a month too :P

The question is, are YOU on drugs? :P

I dunno gfox hasn't been on for a couple days, or maybe I just missed him...d0gma ran away for only one day so far. They'll probably be back....nvm....ofcourse they'll be back.

Yeah i know a month is steep man, but its your life.

Geefocks and the he/she D0GMA wont leave us, no chance, but over the last few days ive seen Gfox more than the previous month, i dont know why that is.

At 11/23/04 09:32 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Yeah i know a month is steep man, but its your life.

Geefocks and the he/she D0GMA wont leave us, no chance, but over the last few days ive seen Gfox more than the previous month, i dont know why that is.

Ya a month is awhile but its ok we have things to do, it will pass like nothing so we will be fine i think damn i need my drugs now haha j/k i dont take any but we will see after a month heh...

~X~

I think waiting a month would just add to the suspense on not knowing were you are in certain lists and stuff, i think it could be cool as hell actually, now that i think about it.

I like the fact no updates for a while, the main reason I do my exp only once a month the max exp msot can gain is 310exp, when compared to a year which is 3650exp is jsut under 10%.

Yeah, there's no updates for a month. I've got a few reasons:

1) Leaving my computer here while I go home
2) Father not letting me install things on his computer
3) Father not letting me leave his computer on at strange times every week
4) Having to take the time to update listings
5) When I take a holiday, I'd like it to be a *holiday*, and list updates can be stressful
6) Because I feel like it! ;-)

At 11/23/04 01:21 PM, ShittyKitty wrote: Yeah, there's no updates for a month. I've got a few reasons:
6) Because I feel like it! ;-)

That is the best reason of all. I could possibly do mine, maybe twice a month. I just don't feal like it, any mroe than that would be impossible do to the schedule I keep.

A couple of major announcements:

1) I am going to post a Wednesday update for the NGTL. I'm running it earlier in the day, so I should have time to get it up before I go.

2) Starting with the next VP list update, I am changing the way VP's are listed. Rather than using NG's VP numbers rounded off to two decimals (like 7.27), I am going to compute my own VP numbers and round them off to four decimals (like 7.2679). This should make the ranking a lot more fair.

At 11/24/04 12:29 AM, ShittyKitty wrote: A couple of major announcements:

1) I am going to post a Wednesday update for the NGTL. I'm running it earlier in the day, so I should have time to get it up before I go.

I'm looking forward for the Wednesday update for the NGTL. Can't wait to see the results.

2) Starting with the next VP list update, I am changing the way VP's are listed. Rather than using NG's VP numbers rounded off to two decimals (like 7.27), I am going to compute my own VP numbers and round them off to four decimals (like 7.2679). This should make the ranking a lot more fair.

That is an excellent idea. Now we can see a better change in VP per update. Should be fun to see for the next update.

At 11/24/04 12:29 AM, ShittyKitty wrote: 2) Starting with the next VP list update, I am changing the way VP's are listed. Rather than using NG's VP numbers rounded off to two decimals (like 7.27), I am going to compute my own VP numbers and round them off to four decimals (like 7.2679). This should make the ranking a lot more fair.

Great idea SK, I've been wanting this for quite some time.

Yeah MPA. IT might be nice to see who actually comes out when ties are no longer a factor.

...now someone get a screenie! Cause I'm gonna screw up SK's profile BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!! MWA HAHAHA

At 11/21/04 04:38 AM, ShittyKitty wrote: Welcome to the Sunday, November 21, 2004 update of the NG Total Listing

* I finally made the top 500 in VP!!! Sorry, had to get that out. ;-)

Woot Grats =)

* I've added some color-coding to the lists; the Blam/Save Lifetime list looks particularly colorful on this update.

Personally, I think it's too colourful. Rather than going by quarters of the max, you might be better off with overmax, more than 2 years, more than 1 year, and less than 1 year. That will keep it at 4 colours ... at least until October.

At 11/21/04 03:29 PM, MPA wrote: I like the looks of everything, thanks for the update. Now if I could just get a star in D0GMA's too. (maybe next summer)

~nod~ After I stall, next summer may be when I bother to BP on this account again ... just for stars ;)

At 11/23/04 03:18 AM, IV_KOME_4_U wrote: no updates for a WHOLE drugs? you on drugs? hope gfox and d0gma don't run away for a month too :P

No worries. Mommie Dearest and I had it out (yet again), so I'm sticking with my plans to stay put for the holidays ... apparently my anger is now "artificial" instead of "fake." I think that's an upgrade, so maybe she's finally starting to take me seriously :-P~~~

At 11/24/04 12:29 AM, ShittyKitty wrote:
2) Starting with the next VP list update, I am changing the way VP's are listed. Rather than using NG's VP numbers rounded off to two decimals (like 7.27), I am going to compute my own VP numbers and round them off to four decimals (like 7.2679). This should make the ranking a lot more fair.

Good. That's what I was referring to back when you first posted them. Hopefully, you'll set up the gain column the same way =)

At 11/24/04 05:16 AM, RedCircle wrote: Yeah MPA. IT might be nice to see who actually comes out when ties are no longer a factor.

...now someone get a screenie! Cause I'm gonna screw up SK's profile BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!! MWA HAHAHA

LOL copycat :-P~~~

At 11/24/04 12:29 AM, ShittyKitty wrote: A couple of major announcements:

1) I am going to post a Wednesday update for the NGTL. I'm running it earlier in the day, so I should have time to get it up before I go.

Sounds good to me. An unexpected surprise.

At 11/24/04 06:20 AM, ramagi wrote:

ramagi, I love you.

Will you marry me please?

At 11/24/04 06:26 AM, BonusStage wrote:

At 11/24/04 06:22 AM, SeeD419 wrote:

At 11/24/04 06:20 AM, ramagi wrote:

ramagi, I love you.

Will you marry me please?

She's to intrigued by d0gma's he/she/it'ness to want any other man ... oh wait a boyfriend :(

Yea a BF that been working all week including today. Who whom I'll be spending time with for 4 days with. I have been lucky that he's been working alot the last week, trying to make some money for X-mas shopping.

At 11/24/04 06:47 AM, ramagi wrote: Yea a BF that been working all week including today. Who whom I'll be spending time with for 4 days with. I have been lucky that he's been working alot the last week, trying to make some money for X-mas shopping.

*Sigh* My dreams have been ruined. My purpose in life is now empty. :( What is left for me? Oh happy dagger...

//suicide

At 11/24/04 12:29 AM, ShittyKitty wrote: 2) Starting with the next VP list update, I am changing the way VP's are listed. Rather than using NG's VP numbers rounded off to two decimals (like 7.27), I am going to compute my own VP numbers and round them off to four decimals (like 7.2679). This should make the ranking a lot more fair.

That sounds cool, and it will show how much one might have to go before there next increase, looking good SK...

~X~

At 11/24/04 05:46 AM, D0GMA wrote:
No worries. Mommie Dearest and I had it out (yet again), so I'm sticking with my plans to stay put for the holidays

Ha! What a bitch. I just checked my e-mail and, true to form, she never actually loses an argument. When she can't run you over to get her way, and it's too important to her to walk away with the usual, "fah, you're always right," she plays all meek and shit to get whatever it is she happens to want this time by the back door. I've been up since 2pm (go Bayern!!! 5-1 ^^ boo Ajax!!! 0-1 :-P~~) so I guess it's not really too early for me to make a cocktail ... or six.

Thank you for letting me know. We will miss you.
I love you,
Mom

Another thought -- Are we invited there????

/me wonders what that odd sound is until noticing that it's the usual after dealing with Mommie Dearest ... enamel.

At 11/24/04 06:57 AM, D0GMA wrote:
I've been up since 2pm (go Bayern!!! 5-1 ^^ boo Ajax!!! 0-1 :-P~~) so I guess it's not really too early for me to make a cocktail ... or six.

Woohoo, cocktails. Yeah Bayern were on fire last night, i cant believe how good Roy Mackaay is, what a player. Hahaha, Ajax put up a decent display i suppose, but i never seen them beating Juve away anyway.

Nice, a final update before all is lost for a month, lets just hope i can get on some more lists before you come back, and lets just hope ive made a big dent in everything i can so the next update is bloody sweet. Have a nice holiday anyway SK, and just because you cant run your lists doesnt mean you cant sign on and chat right ?

Welcome to the Wednesday, November 24, 2004 update of the NG Total Listing

Surprise! Everyone loves surprises, no? Well, the listing finished up much more quickly than I thought it would, so I've gone ahead and posted the b/p updates. And I'm yellow again!

At 11/24/04 05:46 AM, D0GMA wrote: No worries. Mommie Dearest and I had it out (yet again), so I'm sticking with my plans to stay put for the holidays

Now see, you people won't be completely deprived of stat lists. It'll just be like it was before I started my lists.

Good. That's what I was referring to back when you first posted them. Hopefully, you'll set up the gain column the same way =)

Ah. Yeah, that whole extra decimal thing was goofy. But it will never, ever, ever, happen again. I've forcefully limited my numbers. And yeah, the gain column will also act the same way. The rankings will probably shift a little this Monday when I start using the new system, but after that everything will be fine.

At 11/24/04 07:41 AM, Slightly_Crazy_Dude wrote: Have a nice holiday anyway SK, and just because you cant run your lists doesnt mean you cant sign on and chat right ?

I'll try, but I don't know how easily I'll be able to get online. More than likely, I won't be able to, but if I am, I'll be sure to drop a line.

OMG I'm BLUE! Best ever for me since SK started his list. I have done better before, but that predates all these lists.

At 11/24/04 09:16 AM, ramagi wrote: OMG I'm BLUE! Best ever for me since SK started his list. I have done better before, but that predates all these lists.

Yeah, your a bloody machine, Ivan Drago, or that homo Bicentenial Man.

Great update SK, cant wait to see the next one, hopefully my batting average has went up before then, i wanna climb atleast a few places on all the lists im on.

At 11/24/04 09:16 AM, ramagi wrote: OMG I'm BLUE! Best ever for me since SK started his list. I have done better before, but that predates all these lists.

Yup, I got my ass kicked on this update, seems GMT daytime has been slower than ever, and lots of stuff comes through whilst I sleep, particularly Sunday night </excuses>

Ho hum