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I knew this was happening and I'm sick of it.

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Response to I knew this was happening and I'm sick of it. 2024-11-13 10:37:50


I'm going to step in as a mod and say the following:


Anyone abusing the review system for things like this needs to be reported as "non-reviews" that do not offer any thoughts on the piece being uploaded, critique, or what it is evocative of.


Flag them and grind their whistle down to the ground. No asks. No complaints. Just do.


If we don't, and their "reviews" are kept up for longer, this emboldens people who will do the same. The whole point of NG's review system is precisely for that: thoughts, critique, appraisal of a piece of art. Anything that doesn't fit, take action against.

Response to I knew this was happening and I'm sick of it. 2024-11-13 16:32:15


At 11/13/24 10:37 AM, Troisnyx wrote:I'm going to step in as a mod and say the following:

Anyone abusing the review system for things like this needs to be reported as "non-reviews" that do not offer any thoughts on the piece being uploaded, critique, or what it is evocative of.

Flag them and grind their whistle down to the ground. No asks. No complaints. Just do.

If we don't, and their "reviews" are kept up for longer, this emboldens people who will do the same. The whole point of NG's review system is precisely for that: thoughts, critique, appraisal of a piece of art. Anything that doesn't fit, take action against.


Speaking as a friend and fellow creator on this site, I kind of have to agree with Trois here. All these people are turning this iconic, historic website into a landfill with all of these so aptly-named "non-reviews". I don't, but it almost makes me want to leave the website because I don't want to be associated with these lazy do-nothings turning the old Internet I grew up and want preserved into just another trashy meme site (even if I am as old as something news).


Anyone who reads this and looks at my user page will notice that I actively try to review what I experience here. Of course I'm not perfect at this, I'm not even 18.5 and barely been here for a few months, but I don't pull all this meme or GD sh*t like others do.


I don't see these songs as cows that are supposed to be shipped off to the Geometry Dash meat grinder. I see them as things to be preserved for the future and deeply enjoyed. That is what music is for, after all, right?


Ugh. I'm tired right now. But ,aybe it's as Trois sad. Maybe I need to start reading through these reviews with a much finer tooth comb and flagging those not based around actually doing their job for destruction. I can't see more of the old Internet go to hell like this.

Response to I knew this was happening and I'm sick of it. 2024-11-15 19:46:08


At 10/12/24 11:38 PM, wobwobrob wrote:

People on Newgrounds should review music based on the music, not on whether it's available for use in an 11 year old game that I don't personally care that much about. It's just not for me.

The music that I create is an asset I own, and my assets form part of my livelihood. Everyone gets to listen to all artists on Newgrounds completely free. That is an incredible deal. We are under no obligation to provide this for you in GD, especially if we have plans to use the license for that music in a way that actually supports me and my family through my composing.

People making art, movies or games don't have to put up with this and neither should musicians.

Shit like this makes me immediately want to stop uploading music all together. Review art on it's merit, not on how you choose to consume it.


AHAHAHAHAH!~ THIS GUY MAD EVERYONE CAN GIVE HIM LOW STARS AND IS AFFECTED BY THE RATING AHAHAHAH!!!!! DAMN YOUR CARREER IS OVER NOW! PAPYRUSANSFAN193 CAUSED IRREVERSABLE HARM TO UR REPUTATION.

But seriously though, who fucken cares, let the person give u feedback. He might be onto something. Maybe you should have considered to GD whatever that may be


At 11/15/24 07:46 PM, Haris wrote:AHAHAHAHAH!~ THIS GUY MAD EVERYONE CAN GIVE HIM LOW STARS AND IS AFFECTED BY THE RATING AHAHAHAH!!!!! DAMN YOUR CARREER IS OVER NOW! PAPYRUSANSFAN193 CAUSED IRREVERSABLE HARM TO UR REPUTATION.
But seriously though, who fucken cares, let the person give u feedback. He might be onto something. Maybe you should have considered to GD whatever that may be


@wobwobrob was talking about reviews - not the ratings:


At 10/12/24 11:38 PM, wobwobrob wrote:People on Newgrounds should review music based on the music, not on whether it's available for use in an 11 year old game [...]. Review art on it's merit, not on how you choose to consume it.

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Response to I knew this was happening and I'm sick of it. 2024-11-16 08:56:29


At 11/16/24 01:22 AM, Yatsufusa wrote:
At 11/15/24 07:46 PM, Haris wrote:AHAHAHAHAH!~ THIS GUY MAD EVERYONE CAN GIVE HIM LOW STARS AND IS AFFECTED BY THE RATING AHAHAHAH!!!!! DAMN YOUR CARREER IS OVER NOW! PAPYRUSANSFAN193 CAUSED IRREVERSABLE HARM TO UR REPUTATION.
But seriously though, who fucken cares, let the person give u feedback. He might be onto something. Maybe you should have considered to GD whatever that may be

@wobwobrob was talking about reviews - not the ratings:
At 10/12/24 11:38 PM, wobwobrob wrote:
People on Newgrounds should review music based on the music, not on whether it's available for use in an 11 year old game [...]. Review art on it's merit, not on how you choose to consume it.


Same point, same thing. No need to worry, just create more with volition to do it for yourself

Response to I knew this was happening and I'm sick of it. 2024-11-16 15:12:13


At 11/16/24 08:56 AM, Haris wrote:
At 11/16/24 01:22 AM, Yatsufusa wrote:
At 11/15/24 07:46 PM, Haris wrote:AHAHAHAHAH!~ THIS GUY MAD EVERYONE CAN GIVE HIM LOW STARS AND IS AFFECTED BY THE RATING AHAHAHAH!!!!! DAMN YOUR CARREER IS OVER NOW! PAPYRUSANSFAN193 CAUSED IRREVERSABLE HARM TO UR REPUTATION.
But seriously though, who fucken cares, let the person give u feedback. He might be onto something. Maybe you should have considered to GD whatever that may be

@wobwobrob was talking about reviews - not the ratings:
At 10/12/24 11:38 PM, wobwobrob wrote:
People on Newgrounds should review music based on the music, not on whether it's available for use in an 11 year old game [...]. Review art on it's merit, not on how you choose to consume it.

Same point, same thing. No need to worry, just create more with volition to do it for yourself


Regardless of the motivation to create, review abuse is still review abuse. If NG has an ethos and a ruleset that says it doesn't tolerate it, then it's worth flagging up and worth acting on. We have whistle points for very good reason.


If it didn't matter on NG, at least on paper, we wouldn't have the whistle system.


So, charitably speaking, nobody's ever saying that you can't create for yourself, because most of us do. But it's also no good if people are constantly trying to swat proverbial flies. Both thought process can and should coexist.

Response to I knew this was happening and I'm sick of it. 2024-11-18 21:13:38


At 11/16/24 03:12 PM, Troisnyx wrote:
At 11/16/24 08:56 AM, Haris wrote:
At 11/16/24 01:22 AM, Yatsufusa wrote:
At 11/15/24 07:46 PM, Haris wrote:AHAHAHAHAH!~ THIS GUY MAD EVERYONE CAN GIVE HIM LOW STARS AND IS AFFECTED BY THE RATING AHAHAHAH!!!!! DAMN YOUR CARREER IS OVER NOW! PAPYRUSANSFAN193 CAUSED IRREVERSABLE HARM TO UR REPUTATION.
But seriously though, who fucken cares, let the person give u feedback. He might be onto something. Maybe you should have considered to GD whatever that may be

@wobwobrob was talking about reviews - not the ratings:
At 10/12/24 11:38 PM, wobwobrob wrote:
People on Newgrounds should review music based on the music, not on whether it's available for use in an 11 year old game [...]. Review art on it's merit, not on how you choose to consume it.

Same point, same thing. No need to worry, just create more with volition to do it for yourself

Regardless of the motivation to create, review abuse is still review abuse. If NG has an ethos and a ruleset that says it doesn't tolerate it, then it's worth flagging up and worth acting on. We have whistle points for very good reason.

If it didn't matter on NG, at least on paper, we wouldn't have the whistle system.

So, charitably speaking, nobody's ever saying that you can't create for yourself, because most of us do. But it's also no good if people are constantly trying to swat proverbial flies. Both thought process can and should coexist.


you said it yourself. Flies. Means nothing

Response to I knew this was happening and I'm sick of it. 2024-11-18 21:16:45


At 11/16/24 01:22 AM, Yatsufusa wrote:
At 11/15/24 07:46 PM, Haris wrote:AHAHAHAHAH!~ THIS GUY MAD EVERYONE CAN GIVE HIM LOW STARS AND IS AFFECTED BY THE RATING AHAHAHAH!!!!! DAMN YOUR CARREER IS OVER NOW! PAPYRUSANSFAN193 CAUSED IRREVERSABLE HARM TO UR REPUTATION.
But seriously though, who fucken cares, let the person give u feedback. He might be onto something. Maybe you should have considered to GD whatever that may be

@wobwobrob was talking about reviews - not the ratings:
At 10/12/24 11:38 PM, wobwobrob wrote:
People on Newgrounds should review music based on the music, not on whether it's available for use in an 11 year old game [...]. Review art on it's merit, not on how you choose to consume it.


whatever. Same thing. Means nothing, and it has always been like that. Don't worry about it:P


At 11/18/24 09:13 PM, Haris wrote:
At 11/16/24 03:12 PM, Troisnyx wrote:
At 11/16/24 08:56 AM, Haris wrote:
At 11/16/24 01:22 AM, Yatsufusa wrote:
At 11/15/24 07:46 PM, Haris wrote:AHAHAHAHAH!~ THIS GUY MAD EVERYONE CAN GIVE HIM LOW STARS AND IS AFFECTED BY THE RATING AHAHAHAH!!!!! DAMN YOUR CARREER IS OVER NOW! PAPYRUSANSFAN193 CAUSED IRREVERSABLE HARM TO UR REPUTATION.
But seriously though, who fucken cares, let the person give u feedback. He might be onto something. Maybe you should have considered to GD whatever that may be

@wobwobrob was talking about reviews - not the ratings:
At 10/12/24 11:38 PM, wobwobrob wrote:
People on Newgrounds should review music based on the music, not on whether it's available for use in an 11 year old game [...]. Review art on it's merit, not on how you choose to consume it.

Same point, same thing. No need to worry, just create more with volition to do it for yourself

Regardless of the motivation to create, review abuse is still review abuse. If NG has an ethos and a ruleset that says it doesn't tolerate it, then it's worth flagging up and worth acting on. We have whistle points for very good reason.

If it didn't matter on NG, at least on paper, we wouldn't have the whistle system.

So, charitably speaking, nobody's ever saying that you can't create for yourself, because most of us do. But it's also no good if people are constantly trying to swat proverbial flies. Both thought process can and should coexist.

you said it yourself. Flies. Means nothing


Newgrounds has an ethos and we're sticking by it. End of. I don't need to repeat myself on review abuse being against Newgrounds' rules.


If you want it to run rampant, go find another website.

Response to I knew this was happening and I'm sick of it. 2024-11-19 02:49:25


At 11/18/24 09:16 PM, Haris wrote:
At 11/16/24 01:22 AM, Yatsufusa wrote:
[...]

whatever. Same thing. Means nothing, and it has always been like that. Don't worry about it:P


No reason to double-post, I read you the first time. I just had nothing to say to you.

If you cannot tell the difference between a rating and a review on your own by now, than I will be unable to explain it to you.


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Response to I knew this was happening and I'm sick of it. 2024-11-19 06:54:44


I'm going to close this off, as most has been said which needs to. To summarize:


A review existing solely to point out that something is not available in GD can be flagged, as it does not bring any criticism value to the author or the work. There's a guideline in the review terms which mentions that user harassing an author to make certain content available is not allowed, which applies to these reviews as a work not being in GD is either an author's choice or out of their control (whitelisting).


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