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Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 03:44:16


I never got logged out


I'm the best for a reason.

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Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 04:39:36


Yesterday I was logged out of Newgrounds on my phone (Browser: Chrome, Phone: Galaxy A20e), and when I came home I was logged out on my PC as well on Firefox (version 127.0.1 (64-bit)).

Hope that helps!

Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 05:24:18


At 6/20/24 03:21 PM, TomFulp wrote:If you’ve recently been logged out of NG unexpectedly, please reply to this post letting us know that it happened. Include what day it happened, your operating system, browser and browser version if possible. Do you recall what you were doing on NG when it happened? Also let us know if you get logged out more than once and/or if you’ve been logged out from other sites as well.

We're especially curious to hear if anyone experienced this as early as June 12th (or earlier).


Somewhere between yesterday and "just now": Win10 Home, FirefoX v125.0.3 (64-Bit). Didn't do anything special that I would remember...

Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 06:12:17


At 6/20/24 03:21 PM, TomFulp wrote:While Jim and Josh have been occupied by drawn-out projects, sneaky bugs have still found a way to introduce themselves into the site.

Get Logged Out?

It appears a bunch of people have gotten logged out of their accounts. At first we thought the common thread was Chrome for Android, then just Chrome in general but now we have a report from Pingu who was using Firefox.

If you’ve recently been logged out of NG unexpectedly, please reply to this post letting us know that it happened. Include what day it happened, your operating system, browser and browser version if possible. Do you recall what you were doing on NG when it happened? Also let us know if you get logged out more than once and/or if you’ve been logged out from other sites as well.

We're especially curious to hear if anyone experienced this as early as June 12th (or earlier).

NordVPN Update

On June 10th I made a post about how NordVPN is breaking NG.

Lots of people have been emailing support to say the site is completely broken and all of them have been able to fix it by turning off NordVPN’s web protection, which is blocking our javascript at https://js.ngfiles.com/ng_publish.js.

I’ve been going back and forth with NordVPN and they say they don’t see it blocking anything on their end and they need a screenshot of the error message from a user where it’s being blocked. I’ve been asking people for screenshots but so far no one has sent me one, I don’t think it’s obvious where to find the specific error message, as most people are simply turning off Web Protection and getting on with their day.

If you’re using NordVPN and have experienced NG being broken, if you can find a specific screen that says what is being blocked, please post the screenshot here or email it to tom AT newgrounds.com. This problem is at a standstill until a screenshot is produced.

In the meantime, @YendorNG has recommended Proton VPN.

General Reminder

I’d like to take a moment to remind everyone that NG is an independent website with no outside shareholders or private equity groups waiting to cash in.

We don’t build secret consumer profiles about you and we don’t sell or share your information. We aren’t partnering with AI companies to train on your data.

Newgrounds is nearly ad-free and our goal is to be fully funded by Supporters, with zero ads. To be frank, our only remaining ads are on adult movies and games and I hate having to explain that to people. You would be doing me a huge personal favor if I could just tell people “we’re funded by Supporters!” I’d also like to stop telling people we operate at a loss and would love to tell people we distribute hundreds of thousands of dollars to artists each month but baby steps.

Read up on the NG history if you’d like to know more.

Upcoming Events and Collabs

June 17th - Art Inspired Music Contest deadline.
June 22nd - Sonic Shorts 1000 deadline.
June 27th - Short Short Fest entry deadline.
June 28th - Pride Month Art Collab deadline.
June 28th - Corporate Art Style Collab deadline.
June 28th - Too Many Games Meetup in Oaks, PA.

July 1st - Diokophobia Charity Art Contest deadline.
July 7th - Concert of Love deadline.
July 11th - Christmas in July Collab deadline.
July 14th - Wallpaper 2.0 Collab deadline.
July 20th - Five Nights at Freddy's Collab deadline.
July 20th - Subspace Emissary Art Collab deadline.
July 26th - NG Summer Smash Meetup in Wildwood, NJ.
July 28th - Summer Art Collab deadline.
July 30th - The Ocean Mean Audio Collab deadline.
July 31st - Blind World Collab writing sign-up deadline.

August - Midsummer Rumble month-long art event.
August 3rd - Short Short Fest at Marty Magee's in Prospect Park, PA - Open for Submissions!
August 9th - Short Short Fest at Capri Drive-In in Coldwater, MI - Open for Submissions!
August 15th - Clock Day
August 23rd - Ninja Collab deadline.
August 26th - Robot Day

September 12th - Mexican Independence Day Collab deadline.
September 22nd - Madness Day

October 12st - Brainrot Scam Ad Collab deadline.

November 1st - Nintendo DS Collab deadline.
November 1st - the Behemoth 20th Animation Collab deadline.
November 4th - Pokemon Gijinka Collab application deadline.


Uh Yeah Yesterday At Around 3:30 My Account Was Signed Out My Operateing System Was A Microsoft Edge Emulator On Xbox One S I Signed Back In Via Verification Code

Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 06:36:25


At 6/21/24 03:00 AM, OrkOrk wrote:Crazy hypothetical but what if you had a pay to view system for movies or behind the scenes, and take a small percentage for hosting or something. That way creators can make money and the site too! With NSFW artists and whomever else getting the axe from those patron sites, I'm sure they'd feel a lil safer with the freedom and independence NG has. And if 'someone' made like an entire movie and hosted it here, that would be gold. I have no idea what kinda legal trouble and tax bullshit that would ensue but I thought it be interesting and work symbiotically.


If we ever had a system like that we'd have to police it to be sure it's not used for adult content, otherwise we'd lose our access to Paypal and Stripe, which don't allow use for adult content. I have no idea how Patreon gets away with allowing so many adult accounts but they do appear to have crackdowns sometimes.


Working on Nightmare Cops!

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Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 06:49:19


At 6/20/24 11:56 PM, cacodayum wrote:Tom, I just want you to know. This post is pushing the needle ever so slightly. I am going to be supporting from here on out. (Unless I get randomly fired from my job or something, I mean :v)
I wanted to anyway, right? But I was hesitating since times are tough, but you got me excited about it. May others follow.


I never want anyone to prioritize NG over their personal needs so don't hesitate to cancel if you can put that towards something like a credit card bill. It's greatly appreciated, though! $3 doesn't go very far nowadays but thousands of people giving $3 really adds up.


Working on Nightmare Cops!

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Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 06:57:58


At 6/20/24 05:34 PM, TomFulp wrote:
At 6/20/24 05:25 PM, KooliozArt wrote:How far away would NG be from being fully supporter-funded? Even if it's like 1% of rhe way there, or if you cant sgare the numbers, even having an annual goal to increase the backer count each year could work for incwntivising people to back. Some kinda graspable statistic.

We used to show goals and progress but it didn't help, I think it actually did the opposite, where seeing progress actually made people get depressed and give up. There's a long ways to go, there are enough people here to make it happen but there will have to be a larger incentive system in the future and we have a list of things we plan to try. Posts like the one I made today never really move the needle either so I'm not sure why I even bring it up, I just like to remind people once in a while in case it helps.

As far as a general status update, we're at 8,451 supporters at the moment, which is keeping the hosting going. I'd like to find a way to double that.


Have you considered adding more subscription tiers with more benefits for paying more?

I've had the thought that I would be willing to pay for a higher supporter tier if there was a tangible benefit that matters to me.

But when I try to think about something that I really would want from NG that we don't already have, I couldn't really think of anything...

People make a mockery of the whole "blue checkmark" nonsense but honestly there is something about those kinds of indicators that does seem to influence people. It can feel nice to *feel important* even if it ultimately is something very superficial. I will admit there have been times I selected a higher tier when supporting certain animators on Patreon just to have my name showed big in flashy colors in the credits, even though logically I know that isn't something that should make a difference to my choice.


I suppose if you have numbers for how many supporters were gained when custom avatar shapes became a perk, then that could give an idea of what could possibly be achieved by offering something like a shiny "super supporter" badge or custom username colors/styling.


As for getting logged out.

I was logged out June 21 at 5:56 AM EST.

(Unusual, I do not normally get logged out on this device)

Was logged in yesterday.


Using Bromite browser (Chromium derivative)

version 97.0.4692.106

On Lineage OS (Android derivative)

version 16.0, based on Android 9


I did not get logged out on my PC using Librewolf (Firefox derivative) on Ubuntu.


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Opened NG today to find myself logged out. Windows 11, latest Firefox.


EDIT: Firefox updated just yesterday.


Can't tell if I've been logged out from other sites as well, because NG is the only one where I have "keep me signed in" enabled.

If I should ever vanish without a trace, assume until proven otherwise that olskoo banned me due to penis envy.

It's better to die together than to live alone.

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At 6/20/24 03:21 PM, TomFulp wrote:Get Logged Out?

It appears a bunch of people have gotten logged out of their accounts. At first we thought the common thread was Chrome for Android, then just Chrome in general but now we have a report from Pingu who was using Firefox.

If you’ve recently been logged out of NG unexpectedly, please reply to this post letting us know that it happened. Include what day it happened, your operating system, browser and browser version if possible. Do you recall what you were doing on NG when it happened? Also let us know if you get logged out more than once and/or if you’ve been logged out from other sites as well.

We're especially curious to hear if anyone experienced this as early as June 12th (or earlier).

the whole logging out thing has happened to me many times before but I didn't keep track of it since I didn't think much of it at the time, this issue only happened on newgrounds,

although if you wanna know, today, it just happened to me right when I opened the newgrounds tab and realized I was logged out.


windows 7, firefox 115.12.0esr (64-bit). (I didn't use any vpn either so here's that.)


I may not be the brightest in the box full of light-bulbs, but that doesn't mean I can't light the way in this dark world.

(you can call me wilson or mawi if you want, I'm also the one who made skibidi club.)

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At 6/21/24 03:00 AM, OrkOrk wrote:
We used to show goals and progress but it didn't help, I think it actually did the opposite, where seeing progress actually made people get depressed and give up. There's a long ways to go, there are enough people here to make it happen but there will have to be a larger incentive system in the future and we have a list of things we plan to try. Posts like the one I made today never really move the needle either so I'm not sure why I even bring it up, I just like to remind people once in a while in case it helps.

As far as a general status update, we're at 8,451 supporters at the moment, which is keeping the hosting going. I'd like to find a way to double that.

Crazy hypothetical but what if you had a pay to view system for movies or behind the scenes, and take a small percentage for hosting or something. That way creators can make money and the site too! With NSFW artists and whomever else getting the axe from those patron sites, I'm sure they'd feel a lil safer with the freedom and independence NG has. And if 'someone' made like an entire movie and hosted it here, that would be gold. I have no idea what kinda legal trouble and tax bullshit that would ensue but I thought it be interesting and work symbiotically.


I feel a pay-per-view system is yucky and sadly even if the community worked together to make a movie and had it be sold only on Newgrounds to help finance the site it wouldn't make a major difference unless it was a Spriggan or Studio Ghibli level animated movie that would attract people who don't even like online websites to go watch it


I know a lot of indie games have their origins in Newgrounds could the developers try giving the site a direct percentage cut of their profits somehow (not mandatory) small enough where it'd matter more than a $5 monthly donation but not enough to impact the devs


(Blam) nevermind saw Tom bringing up Paypal


For now I'll just wait out hope for that grand exodus when people realise that Newgrounds is infinitely nicer than Twitter or Tumblr for artists


What's a Signature text? Why'd I click on this? How do I leave?

Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 07:14:58


At 6/20/24 03:21 PM, TomFulp wrote:While Jim and Josh have been occupied by drawn-out projects, sneaky bugs have still found a way to introduce themselves into the site.

Get Logged Out?

It appears a bunch of people have gotten logged out of their accounts. At first we thought the common thread was Chrome for Android, then just Chrome in general but now we have a report from Pingu who was using Firefox.

If you’ve recently been logged out of NG unexpectedly, please reply to this post letting us know that it happened. Include what day it happened, your operating system, browser and browser version if possible. Do you recall what you were doing on NG when it happened? Also let us know if you get logged out more than once and/or if you’ve been logged out from other sites as well.

We're especially curious to hear if anyone experienced this as early as June 12th (or earlier).


When: Friday, 21th june 2024

OS: Windows 10 home

Browser: Edge

Browser version: Version 126.0.2592.61 (Official build) (64-bit)


Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 08:18:22


It's also funny how a lot of Russian users outside on Twitter kept complaining that they don't wanna use Newgrounds because it's not a great community and add the additional reason being is their VPN not working properly here.

A bit ironic but I get the gist, regardless hopefully this does brandish a few things on some loose ends.

In any case this is solid. Hopefully less issues with account handling and VPN related being polished.


Grab a popcorn and favorite drink to enjoy some Flash Portal if you will?

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Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 08:36:30


Just got logged out unexpectedly.


June 21st • Android 12; CPH2459 Build/RKQ1.211119.001 • Chrome 126.0.6478.110


For a while, I've been noticing spottiness with remaining logged in across a few different sites (like freesound.org, and warmplace.ru’s forums), but not on Newgrounds before, and I haven't noticed any obvious pattern to it.

Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 08:45:59


Got logged out; firefox version 127.0.1, windows 10. just noticed it now.


haven't been logged out of other sites

Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 08:46:36


I got logged out last Wednesday. Am using Goggle Chrome and Windows 10.

Had trouble logging in because of two factor but I remember I saved a screenshot of my available codes and its all gucci.


I actually thought I was banned :X :X :X


I get the feeling I'm not quite made of the right stuff. . .

To float between the rings of 💫🪐Cosmic Metal Love🌌⭐

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Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 09:00:11


At 6/20/24 03:21 PM, TomFulp wrote:While Jim and Josh have been occupied by drawn-out projects, sneaky bugs have still found a way to introduce themselves into the site.

Get Logged Out?

It appears a bunch of people have gotten logged out of their accounts. At first we thought the common thread was Chrome for Android, then just Chrome in general but now we have a report from Pingu who was using Firefox.

If you’ve recently been logged out of NG unexpectedly, please reply to this post letting us know that it happened. Include what day it happened, your operating system, browser and browser version if possible. Do you recall what you were doing on NG when it happened? Also let us know if you get logged out more than once and/or if you’ve been logged out from other sites as well.

We're especially curious to hear if anyone experienced this as early as June 12th (or earlier).

NordVPN Update

On June 10th I made a post about how NordVPN is breaking NG.

Lots of people have been emailing support to say the site is completely broken and all of them have been able to fix it by turning off NordVPN’s web protection, which is blocking our javascript at https://js.ngfiles.com/ng_publish.js.

I’ve been going back and forth with NordVPN and they say they don’t see it blocking anything on their end and they need a screenshot of the error message from a user where it’s being blocked. I’ve been asking people for screenshots but so far no one has sent me one, I don’t think it’s obvious where to find the specific error message, as most people are simply turning off Web Protection and getting on with their day.

If you’re using NordVPN and have experienced NG being broken, if you can find a specific screen that says what is being blocked, please post the screenshot here or email it to tom AT newgrounds.com. This problem is at a standstill until a screenshot is produced.

In the meantime, @YendorNG has recommended Proton VPN.

General Reminder

I’d like to take a moment to remind everyone that NG is an independent website with no outside shareholders or private equity groups waiting to cash in.

We don’t build secret consumer profiles about you and we don’t sell or share your information. We aren’t partnering with AI companies to train on your data.

Newgrounds is nearly ad-free and our goal is to be fully funded by Supporters, with zero ads. To be frank, our only remaining ads are on adult movies and games and I hate having to explain that to people. You would be doing me a huge personal favor if I could just tell people “we’re funded by Supporters!” I’d also like to stop telling people we operate at a loss and would love to tell people we distribute hundreds of thousands of dollars to artists each month but baby steps.

Read up on the NG history if you’d like to know more.

Upcoming Events and Collabs

June 17th - Art Inspired Music Contest deadline.
June 22nd - Sonic Shorts 1000 deadline.
June 27th - Short Short Fest entry deadline.
June 28th - Pride Month Art Collab deadline.
June 28th - Corporate Art Style Collab deadline.
June 28th - Too Many Games Meetup in Oaks, PA.

July 1st - Diokophobia Charity Art Contest deadline.
July 7th - Concert of Love deadline.
July 11th - Christmas in July Collab deadline.
July 14th - Wallpaper 2.0 Collab deadline.
July 20th - Five Nights at Freddy's Collab deadline.
July 20th - Subspace Emissary Art Collab deadline.
July 26th - NG Summer Smash Meetup in Wildwood, NJ.
July 28th - Summer Art Collab deadline.
July 30th - The Ocean Mean Audio Collab deadline.
July 31st - Blind World Collab writing sign-up deadline.

August - Midsummer Rumble month-long art event.
August 3rd - Short Short Fest at Marty Magee's in Prospect Park, PA - Open for Submissions!
August 9th - Short Short Fest at Capri Drive-In in Coldwater, MI - Open for Submissions!
August 15th - Clock Day
August 23rd - Ninja Collab deadline.
August 26th - Robot Day

September 12th - Mexican Independence Day Collab deadline.
September 22nd - Madness Day

October 12st - Brainrot Scam Ad Collab deadline.

November 1st - Nintendo DS Collab deadline.
November 1st - the Behemoth 20th Animation Collab deadline.
November 4th - Pokemon Gijinka Collab application deadline.

not only in chrome but also in brave, although I moved to opera gx or Firefox


Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 09:13:41


I'm not sure if NordVPN said specifically how to find evidence of something being borked up, but if you haven't already, maybe try asking people who reported issues with it to turn it back on temporarily and open their browser's Developer Tools (pressing ctrl + shift + i) and look in its Console tab for error messages when they go to NG since most people who aren't web game devs won't know it exists.


I was logged out of NG on my Windows laptop's Chrome (my most routinely used browser) but not Firefox (which I use more rarely) on the same computer, and I don't remember exactly when it was but I think roughly a week ago. That was a single time and hasn't repeated.


My newsfeed has random GameDev tips & tricks

Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 09:14:34


I would pay more if the higher tier benefits include more Dumping Grounds space! I don't want to gift a supporter status to my ALT for that purpose, for the sake of convenience of having all my dump files in one place.


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Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 09:20:16


At 6/21/24 07:14 AM, Xenomorphian wrote:For now I'll just wait out hope for that grand exodus when people realise that Newgrounds is infinitely nicer than Twitter or Tumblr for artists


To paraphrase myself, I wouldn't rely on waiting for another site exodus as a business strategy. You really can't tell if/when a rival site is gonna go over the Trust Thermocline and suddenly haemorrhage users, and those users may not necessarily jump ship to here en masse.


I've personally floated the ideas of user-generated ads and a digital-only version of the NG Store in this thread.

Both, I'd say, are more viable for keeping NG afloat than hoping for a financial deus ex machina.


(I did also admit I have less integrity than Fulp, though :P)

Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 09:21:51


i got signed out on my phone the night of april 14th. i was using the brave web browser for android. im not sure if you mean spontaneously signed out while using the site or coming to the page not signed in but ive been to the site before around that time so i dont think my session expired or something


its time of the year

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Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 09:24:27


I got logged out but I did so myself so I wouldn’t goto the adult section during work hours.


first post tho


None

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Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 09:39:02


Welp, just got hit with the log out bug 😭 for extra notes:

  • Happened today / June 21st
  • Firefox 127.0.1 on Windows 11
  • In terms of what I was doing, I was logged out when I first got on the site. I did update my browser last night so that could also be a quirk of said update

Might be an evil robot... who knows >:)

Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 09:42:45


Usually i check newgrounds on the morning to see any news, but on the morning of 20 june i was logged out, wasnt on the site when it happen, so just logged in again.

using windows 10 with brave 1.67.119

Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 09:52:47


I got logged out twice in total but on different devices, that being Firefox on Mobile and PC. First happened yesterday on Android Firefox version 127.0 (Build #2016024687) then today I found that I was logged out when I visited the site, PC Firefox version: 127.0.1. The only other site I get logged out of is Inkbunny but it only happens every once in awhile so I figured it's some kind of automatic logout system after x days.


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Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 10:05:54


I've been logged out at least once on every one of my devices within the month. All firefox. I just got logged out this morning from my phone, and I was logged out a few weeks ago from my Surface Duo as well as my laptop. I think both times it happened on my other devices, it was the first time I'd gone on NG that day using that device, so I wondered if it was part of a security tweak on Firefox's end.


Seconded for recommending ProtonVPN. What a funny way to make me take notice that I'm on their most expensive plan and have not been taking nearly enough advantage of that. Lmfao


Fuck you give me money!

(thanks for the years of Lulu/Payne r34 my loyal dealers)

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Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 10:22:22


At 6/21/24 06:49 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 6/20/24 11:56 PM, cacodayum wrote:Tom, I just want you to know. This post is pushing the needle ever so slightly. I am going to be supporting from here on out. (Unless I get randomly fired from my job or something, I mean :v)
I wanted to anyway, right? But I was hesitating since times are tough, but you got me excited about it. May others follow.

I never want anyone to prioritize NG over their personal needs so don't hesitate to cancel if you can put that towards something like a credit card bill. It's greatly appreciated, though! $3 doesn't go very far nowadays but thousands of people giving $3 really adds up.


I will pause support if anything gets too rough, but naw, I'm on the $10/mo tier.


I'm just some dork who's loved NG since 2004, yet isn't very artistic himself. You should check out my massive favorites lists.

Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 10:35:57


I had to log back in the morning of June 18th, so it must have happened while I was asleep. I use Firefox (127.0.1, 64-bit) on Windows 10. I didn't get logged out on mobile (using Chrome 114.0).


"kawz-RAL-ecks"

Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 10:37:06


At 6/21/24 03:35 AM, LazarheaD wrote:Just saw I was logged out when spotting your update. Do I have to be worried about a data breach? Should be something you did on the VPN issue. I'm with OperaGX.


I wouldn't be worried about a data breach. At the moment we're suspecting it's related to some changes that were made on June 12th, just haven't solved the how / why.


Working on Nightmare Cops!

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Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 10:49:18


i think newgrounds should have some general support for browsers that only have HTML or whatever

in this case, support for the Nintendo DSI browser

with this i mean a minimal site setting for these old browsers (without fancy css and javascript) so they still work


i mean, then i can send messages on the go. haha


professional ksp player. also, i have like 5 websites right now, xdd

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Response to Get Logged Out? + NordVPN Update 2024-06-21 11:23:36


Get Logged Out?

It appears a bunch of people have gotten logged out of their accounts. At first we thought the common thread was Chrome for Android, then just Chrome in general but now we have a report from Pingu who was using Firefox.

If you’ve recently been logged out of NG unexpectedly, please reply to this post letting us know that it happened. Include what day it happened, your operating system, browser and browser version if possible. Do you recall what you were doing on NG when it happened? Also let us know if you get logged out more than once and/or if you’ve been logged out from other sites as well.

We're especially curious to hear if anyone experienced this as early as June 12th (or earlier).

Oh yeah, it happened to me yesterday in my phone. It was on Android.

Idk, i was just checking notifications, and then when i went to my profile or main page, poof, nothing.


I think i logged out out of nowhere times ago, but i don't remember when, but yeah, that was one of the times that it closed out of nowhere.


Cool, wild and Groovy beat.

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