At 8/5/24 03:23 PM, switzrr wrote:At 8/5/24 03:16 PM, Czyszy wrote:Perspective #3 is spot fucking on! Once I eliminated the pressure and took my artistic growth slow, without pushing to improve so hard that drawing stops being fun, that's when I started improving for real!
So is it "you'll only start improving once you stop caring about improving", or is it "if you want to improve you have to put in the effort"? I've heard both quite often.
I would say you're missing the forest for the trees on this one. Whether it's "you'll only start improving once you stop caring about improving" or it's "if you want to improve you have to put in the effort" is irrelevant for you at this moment in time.
Right now you need to draw period in order to improve.
Beyond that, to your original point about enjoyment of the process of drawing I would say this: You've been having these motivational issues for as long as I've known you to be on the forum. From this time, and from the number of posts you've made about not enjoying art -- beyond that little blip when you switched to digital -- I don't think you are capable of enjoying the process of drawing enough for it to motivate you to draw on it's own. I think the novelty of digital spiked your interest because it opened new doors, but the once you walk through those doors and the novelty wore off you lost the drive to power through the plateaus of building the skills to reach a higher skill level and open new doors in the same way that switching to digital did for you prior.
With this in mind, I still understand that you want to improve as an artist. The good news is: you still can. Treat it like a job, like a real job, or a burden, acknowledge that enjoyment is secondary to your goals and embrace it. Go full automaton for skill building.
If they're available to you enroll in digital illustration classes somewhere to force you to do this. If not -- and I understand that you've tried this before -- go back to drawabox. If you really don't want to go back to drawabox: Do a couple dozen (or honestly as many as you can do) one-point perspective boxes every day -- on paper, with a ruler -- for a week, then do the next week with two-point, then three point (but spend minimum an hour on it time sunk in is important). Then draw and render a dozen spheres/pyramids/boxes/cylinders every day for a week, alternating surface textures, using references
Then set up some random household items and a still life drawing a day every day for a week. Then do a drawing of each of the gestalt principles every day for a week. And so on.
An important thing to remember during all of this - and this even goes for super experienced artists just brushing up on fundamentals -- when doing studies always go in without an ego, use references, and don't try to cheat the process. If you've already done perspective drawings, and rendered shapes, great! Do them again.
I understand the above block of text doesn't sound like much fun, but as I said earlier, it really isn't supposed to be, it is an extreme. Your issue with not finding art as important as videogames or browsing social media, is a tough one to overcome, both are literally Skinner boxes built to hold your attention for as long as possible by drip feeding you dopamine, and art is something where to get to where you want to be; it is going to require hours and hours and hours (etc) of actual work to achieve that dopamine. In a fair fight for your attention span, art is gonna lose every time.
And honestly at this point for you, with how long you've had these motivational issues, I think forcing yourself to do the above exercises every week like a robot for a few months is the only way you're going to progress to a point where you'll begin to become capable of being satisfied with your art.
Treating it like a structured obligation and forcing yourself to do it is going to get more done than wishing you were spending more time drawing while scrolling instagram.
All of that notwithstanding: I was going through your gallery, and your art has improved a solid amount in the past year, so good job on that! Keep working with references, and pay attention to the proportions of where body parts are in relation to each other in different poses. Sometimes it helps more to look at the shape the negative space makes that getting caught up in the form of the actual person.
Miscellaneous tips for sticking to the by the week regiment:
- Pick a consistent time where you can block out an hour every day. Starting every session at X:00am/pm will reinforce the routine more effectively than a different time everyday.
- Find a suitable source of consistent background noise with no interruptions/ad breaks/opportunities to take you out of "the zone"
- keep a full bottle/cup of water/beverage of choice at your desk so you can't contrive a reason to get up to take a break to get some
- be sure you schedule the time close enough to after a meal so that you will not be hungry and use that as a contrivance to end early so you can eat
- no cheat days, once you allow a crack in the armor on something like this and skip a day it only gets easier and easier to skip the next ones.
- Put your phone far enough away from you that it will not distract you, silence any non essential calls/alerts
- if checking social media is a big enough issue: disconnect your computer from the internet while you work, download any references/guides to your computer beforehand.
- Or block the social media sites from your computer for the hours you're working.