At 2/10/23 02:19 PM, EdyKel wrote:At 2/10/23 12:00 PM, decampo wrote:At 2/9/23 09:54 PM, EdyKel wrote:At 2/9/23 09:12 PM, decampo wrote:At 2/9/23 10:46 AM, glazedeyez wrote:The issue with average people is that they are in a constant state of having to conform to the societal norm no matter what. They're neither rich, famous, and attractive enough, or poor, diseased, and ugly enough to defy those expectations. They aren't daring enough or disillusioned enough to break from societal constraints, and as a result, they subconsciously enforce them. Every standard or expectation in a commuity is always decided by consesus, by the average. The people who complain about what the world has come to are often the ones who cause it in the first place. I'm not saying it's yourself OP, but it's pretty common thing I noticed myself. Some people are just oblivous to how terrible they truly are.
I completely agree with you, but what I don't get is why agree to a norm that is just total crap, why not keep good human values. I'm not saying every person I meet is pure evil, I'm just saying that most of them lean towards evil. I know people aren't perfect (myself included), but in D&D terms, why choose a bad alignment? Why not choose to be good? Why do people follow social norms when the norms are wrong? Why not try to change bad norms with good norms? I want to live in a happy world that is ruled by love and acceptance, not by selfishness and hate. Why do it to each other on an individual level? You say it's the social norms, and I agree with you, but we created those norms, and by the end of the day, we control our own actions. Blaming social norms is no excuse for an individual's actions.
Okay.... You might want to dial that down a notch. This isn't D&D, a game, where things are easily categorized as good or evil, neutral, lawful, and chaotic. There is a lot of grey area around this in real life, and more complexities to it. Basically, stop accusing the vast majority of people as evil because you simply don't approve of they way they act.
No, I'm just saying the vast majority of people "I met", and come to think of it, the only reason I think that way because I remember those who hurt me more than those who helped me, because I (like others who do) sometimes forget that being good isn't something everyone does, it's a personal choice. So maybe most people I met aren't bad, I just remember the bad ones more, because as humans we remember pain easier than we remember pleasure.
I think you are referring to just general bad behavior from people, rather than them being evil or bad. I mean, Hitler was evil. Charles Manson was evil. You are mostly dealing with people who don't kill others, or promote the deaths or suffering of others, or doing actual criminal activity, they simply are acting like kids and being stupid and selfish. These are the average people.
I've been called a lot of terrible things over the past 20 plus years of posting online, even threatened. It's just the way it is when you have millions of anonymous posters online who can saying say things that they wouldn't do face to face. They are just using words to excite you, for one reason or another. They can't really hurt you unless you let them.
I'm more concerned by politicians, and media personalities, promoting hatred of certain groups in the country for political power, or financial gain, which can lead to people in these groups to be hurt or treated as 2nd class citizens. I consider those who do this as bad people.
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