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the Ukraine situation

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-21 15:31:58


At 6/21/22 03:21 PM, Gario wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:40 PM, Russian-man wrote:
you probably meant that Russia is liberating Ukraine from Bandera power

man you must really be russian

only a russian would try to troll with such a low effort post

russia is dedicated to committing genocide and the rest of the world is working against you

stay mad, dumbass


russia has always created the world and the United States has ruined Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Syria, Korea, Vietnam, libya, Iraq should I continue?

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-21 16:29:50


At 6/21/22 03:08 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 03:01 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:47 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:38 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:11 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:02 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:51 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:
At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed


damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

and the Ukrainian media generally say that Putin is in a coma

Coma? That's a first, usually it's rumors about "Putin being severly sick". Still, that's whole lot nicer than claiming that an entire country are full of Nazis, with bio weapons, led by a Jew.

who claims that ukraine is full of nazis

Putin, his govermnet, and his state controlled media. Hell, Putin even gave a speech about it.

What country are you from? I live in the US, and we have a two party system, with wide range of opinions in our media, which is often critical of our govermnet, and more critical depending on what party is in control at the the time.


the same Vladimir Volfovich also criticized United Russia quite strongly


The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).

Navalny would have ruined Russia

Ruined it for who? The oligarchs that control the country?

The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).


in the United States, everything is exactly the same, only they do it secretly, and as for Putin's speech, why should I believe this site that has not been verified, and Navalny is exactly the same buffoon as Zelensky who will do everything the West tells him


Unfortunately, in today's US, it's hard to keep anything a secret for long, considering that people are free to whistleblow on thing they consider corupt or immoral... or they just outright leak shit, without fear of being killed. You can't say the same about Russia, because that would weaken it which you don't want.

And for a guy called Russian-man, who blindly supports Putin, because you are conditioned to believe he is righteous and strong, and anything that says otherwise is western propaganda, including Putin's own speech about calling Ukraine Nazis, maybe you should look at yourself first before accusing others of being brainwashed by propaganda.

firstly, he is really righteous and strong because only Russia makes America think before doing something, and secondly, Putin said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, but not everyone there is like that


Russia, outside it's oil exports, is relativity insignificant in the world. It just has a huge inferiority complex problem that makes it a pain in the ass in the world. And claiming a govermnet is strong, and righteous, is usually a good indication that you are indoctrinated into state sponsored propaganda, since those two things are age-old devices used to control you, while blinding you to certain other realities that are anything but righteous and strong. Many Americans don't believe America is strong or righteous, but full of problems - especially under certain presidents. Come into the 21st century.


Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-21 16:34:09


At 6/21/22 03:31 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 03:21 PM, Gario wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:40 PM, Russian-man wrote:
you probably meant that Russia is liberating Ukraine from Bandera power

man you must really be russian

only a russian would try to troll with such a low effort post

russia is dedicated to committing genocide and the rest of the world is working against you

stay mad, dumbass

russia has always created the world and the United States has ruined Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Syria, Korea, Vietnam, libya, Iraq should I continue?


Afghanistan? LOL


And I think China, and Russia, ruined North Korea, and Vietnam.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-21 16:38:10


At 6/21/22 04:29 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 03:08 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 03:01 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:47 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:38 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:11 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:02 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:51 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:
At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed


damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

and the Ukrainian media generally say that Putin is in a coma

Coma? That's a first, usually it's rumors about "Putin being severly sick". Still, that's whole lot nicer than claiming that an entire country are full of Nazis, with bio weapons, led by a Jew.

who claims that ukraine is full of nazis

Putin, his govermnet, and his state controlled media. Hell, Putin even gave a speech about it.

What country are you from? I live in the US, and we have a two party system, with wide range of opinions in our media, which is often critical of our govermnet, and more critical depending on what party is in control at the the time.


the same Vladimir Volfovich also criticized United Russia quite strongly


The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).

Navalny would have ruined Russia

Ruined it for who? The oligarchs that control the country?

The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).


in the United States, everything is exactly the same, only they do it secretly, and as for Putin's speech, why should I believe this site that has not been verified, and Navalny is exactly the same buffoon as Zelensky who will do everything the West tells him


Unfortunately, in today's US, it's hard to keep anything a secret for long, considering that people are free to whistleblow on thing they consider corupt or immoral... or they just outright leak shit, without fear of being killed. You can't say the same about Russia, because that would weaken it which you don't want.

And for a guy called Russian-man, who blindly supports Putin, because you are conditioned to believe he is righteous and strong, and anything that says otherwise is western propaganda, including Putin's own speech about calling Ukraine Nazis, maybe you should look at yourself first before accusing others of being brainwashed by propaganda.

firstly, he is really righteous and strong because only Russia makes America think before doing something, and secondly, Putin said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, but not everyone there is like that

Russia, outside it's oil exports, is relativity insignificant in the world. It just has a huge inferiority complex problem that makes it a pain in the ass in the world. And claiming a govermnet is strong, and righteous, is usually a good indication that you are indoctrinated into state sponsored propaganda, since those two things are age-old devices used to control you, while blinding you to certain other realities that are anything but righteous and strong. Many Americans don't believe America is strong or righteous, but full of problems - especially under certain presidents. Come into the 21st century.


In Russia, they make ships, rockets, wagons and trains, tractors, engines, cars, and yes, why should we enter the 21st century if we are so in it

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-21 16:40:17


At 6/21/22 03:31 PM, Russian-man wrote:
russia has always created the world and the United States has ruined Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Syria, Korea, Vietnam, libya, Iraq should I continue?


oh please do, it's pretty funny how obvious this attempt to distract is


though derailing a thread is looked down upon in here so maybe you should stick to talking about the invasion of ukraine by russia rather than dick sizing russia's atrocities against america's, for some weird reason


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-21 16:46:21


At 6/21/22 04:38 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 04:29 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 03:08 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 03:01 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:47 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:38 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:11 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:02 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:51 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:
At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed


damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

and the Ukrainian media generally say that Putin is in a coma

Coma? That's a first, usually it's rumors about "Putin being severly sick". Still, that's whole lot nicer than claiming that an entire country are full of Nazis, with bio weapons, led by a Jew.

who claims that ukraine is full of nazis

Putin, his govermnet, and his state controlled media. Hell, Putin even gave a speech about it.

What country are you from? I live in the US, and we have a two party system, with wide range of opinions in our media, which is often critical of our govermnet, and more critical depending on what party is in control at the the time.


the same Vladimir Volfovich also criticized United Russia quite strongly


The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).

Navalny would have ruined Russia

Ruined it for who? The oligarchs that control the country?

The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).


in the United States, everything is exactly the same, only they do it secretly, and as for Putin's speech, why should I believe this site that has not been verified, and Navalny is exactly the same buffoon as Zelensky who will do everything the West tells him


Unfortunately, in today's US, it's hard to keep anything a secret for long, considering that people are free to whistleblow on thing they consider corupt or immoral... or they just outright leak shit, without fear of being killed. You can't say the same about Russia, because that would weaken it which you don't want.

And for a guy called Russian-man, who blindly supports Putin, because you are conditioned to believe he is righteous and strong, and anything that says otherwise is western propaganda, including Putin's own speech about calling Ukraine Nazis, maybe you should look at yourself first before accusing others of being brainwashed by propaganda.

firstly, he is really righteous and strong because only Russia makes America think before doing something, and secondly, Putin said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, but not everyone there is like that

Russia, outside it's oil exports, is relativity insignificant in the world. It just has a huge inferiority complex problem that makes it a pain in the ass in the world. And claiming a govermnet is strong, and righteous, is usually a good indication that you are indoctrinated into state sponsored propaganda, since those two things are age-old devices used to control you, while blinding you to certain other realities that are anything but righteous and strong. Many Americans don't believe America is strong or righteous, but full of problems - especially under certain presidents. Come into the 21st century.

In Russia, they make ships, rockets, wagons and trains, tractors, engines, cars, and yes, why should we enter the 21st century if we are so in it


So do a lot of other countries, but nothing original, unless you want to count the hyper-sonic missiles that Putin claims to have as he constantly threatens to blow up the world with, to look strong, while you get a 20th century boner over it.


And most people don't brag about having "wagons" and trains - unless they are high speed trains.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-21 16:46:39


At 6/21/22 04:40 PM, Gario wrote:
At 6/21/22 03:31 PM, Russian-man wrote:
russia has always created the world and the United States has ruined Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Syria, Korea, Vietnam, libya, Iraq should I continue?

oh please do, it's pretty funny how obvious this attempt to distract is

though derailing a thread is looked down upon in here so maybe you should stick to talking about the invasion of ukraine by russia rather than dick sizing russia's atrocities against america's, for some weird reason


Russia's invasion of Ukraine is called a special operation

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-21 16:49:19


At 6/21/22 04:46 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 04:38 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 04:29 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 03:08 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 03:01 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:47 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:38 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:11 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:02 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:51 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:
At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed


damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

and the Ukrainian media generally say that Putin is in a coma

Coma? That's a first, usually it's rumors about "Putin being severly sick". Still, that's whole lot nicer than claiming that an entire country are full of Nazis, with bio weapons, led by a Jew.

who claims that ukraine is full of nazis

Putin, his govermnet, and his state controlled media. Hell, Putin even gave a speech about it.

What country are you from? I live in the US, and we have a two party system, with wide range of opinions in our media, which is often critical of our govermnet, and more critical depending on what party is in control at the the time.


the same Vladimir Volfovich also criticized United Russia quite strongly


The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).

Navalny would have ruined Russia

Ruined it for who? The oligarchs that control the country?

The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).


in the United States, everything is exactly the same, only they do it secretly, and as for Putin's speech, why should I believe this site that has not been verified, and Navalny is exactly the same buffoon as Zelensky who will do everything the West tells him


Unfortunately, in today's US, it's hard to keep anything a secret for long, considering that people are free to whistleblow on thing they consider corupt or immoral... or they just outright leak shit, without fear of being killed. You can't say the same about Russia, because that would weaken it which you don't want.

And for a guy called Russian-man, who blindly supports Putin, because you are conditioned to believe he is righteous and strong, and anything that says otherwise is western propaganda, including Putin's own speech about calling Ukraine Nazis, maybe you should look at yourself first before accusing others of being brainwashed by propaganda.

firstly, he is really righteous and strong because only Russia makes America think before doing something, and secondly, Putin said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, but not everyone there is like that

Russia, outside it's oil exports, is relativity insignificant in the world. It just has a huge inferiority complex problem that makes it a pain in the ass in the world. And claiming a govermnet is strong, and righteous, is usually a good indication that you are indoctrinated into state sponsored propaganda, since those two things are age-old devices used to control you, while blinding you to certain other realities that are anything but righteous and strong. Many Americans don't believe America is strong or righteous, but full of problems - especially under certain presidents. Come into the 21st century.

In Russia, they make ships, rockets, wagons and trains, tractors, engines, cars, and yes, why should we enter the 21st century if we are so in it

So do a lot of other countries, but nothing original, unless you want to count the hyper-sonic missiles that Putin claims to have as he constantly threatens to blow up the world with, to look strong, while you get a 20th century boner over it.

And most people don't brag about having "wagons" and trains - unless they are high speed trains.


You asked what Russia produces and I answered

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-21 17:14:22


At 6/21/22 04:46 PM, Russian-man wrote:
Russia's invasion of Ukraine is called a special operation


and the special operation is to invade ukraine


don't get your panties in a bunch, you're supposed to pull out that meme if some degenerate westerner like myself calls it a "war"


it's objectively an invasion, even putin would admit that


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-21 17:19:09


At 6/21/22 05:14 PM, Gario wrote:
At 6/21/22 04:46 PM, Russian-man wrote:
Russia's invasion of Ukraine is called a special operation

and the special operation is to invade ukraine

don't get your panties in a bunch, you're supposed to pull out that meme if some degenerate westerner like myself calls it a "war"

it's objectively an invasion, even putin would admit that


but there are no signs of the conquest of Ukraine

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-21 17:29:11


At 6/21/22 01:32 PM, Gario wrote:oh wait i forgot russians haven't seen a fair election happen in their country for a century


Ever, actually.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-21 17:45:04


At 6/21/22 05:19 PM, Russian-man wrote:
but there are no signs of the conquest of Ukraine


just because russia is incompetent and can't hold territory doesn't mean they aren't putting in the effort


*shrug*


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-21 18:40:25


At 6/21/22 04:49 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 04:46 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 04:38 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 04:29 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 03:08 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 03:01 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:47 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:38 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:11 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 02:02 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:51 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:47 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:42 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:34 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:25 PM, Russian-man wrote:
At 6/21/22 01:08 PM, Gario wrote:
At 6/21/22 12:56 PM, Russian-man wrote:
this very annexation, as you say, is called a referendum in which 96.57% of the votes were for joining the Russian Federation and as for the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, they are partially recognized secondly, a referendum on self-government was held in these two republics 89.07% of the Donetsk People's Republic

are you talking about the referendum that had armed pro-russian guards at each poll station intimidating in person voters, blatant violations of any fair voting standard (like a young man voting "on the behalf of his whole family"), and literal trucks full of pre-signed ballots that all supported secession from ukraine?

you mean that referendum?

because that one don't count for what i hope are obvious reasons, bucko

and Yanukovych fled the country because he would have been killed


damn, his corrupt ass probably shouldn't have gunned down protestors in 2014, then, maybe then he could've stepped down peacefully instead

can you imagine Zelensky also steals from the treasury

Yup, and the Ukrainians are Nazis, and have bio-weapons. Any more Russian propaganda you would like to fill us in on?

firstly, I did not say that Ukrainians are Nazis, I said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, and secondly, I did not say that Ukraine has biological weapons

But this is what Russia state controlled media is saying to justify their war in Ukraine, and you are using a lot of their propagandistic talking points in support of it.

and the Ukrainian media generally say that Putin is in a coma

Coma? That's a first, usually it's rumors about "Putin being severly sick". Still, that's whole lot nicer than claiming that an entire country are full of Nazis, with bio weapons, led by a Jew.

who claims that ukraine is full of nazis

Putin, his govermnet, and his state controlled media. Hell, Putin even gave a speech about it.

What country are you from? I live in the US, and we have a two party system, with wide range of opinions in our media, which is often critical of our govermnet, and more critical depending on what party is in control at the the time.


the same Vladimir Volfovich also criticized United Russia quite strongly


The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).

Navalny would have ruined Russia

Ruined it for who? The oligarchs that control the country?

The guy is almost a shadow image of Putin. This doesn't change the fact that Russia basically has a one party system, with a state controlled media, with the Russian govermnet cracking down on anything that doesn't promote the govermnet sanctioned narrative over Ukraine - with a lot of Russian opposition disappearing, mysteriously dying, or being sent to prison (Alexei Navalny).


in the United States, everything is exactly the same, only they do it secretly, and as for Putin's speech, why should I believe this site that has not been verified, and Navalny is exactly the same buffoon as Zelensky who will do everything the West tells him


Unfortunately, in today's US, it's hard to keep anything a secret for long, considering that people are free to whistleblow on thing they consider corupt or immoral... or they just outright leak shit, without fear of being killed. You can't say the same about Russia, because that would weaken it which you don't want.

And for a guy called Russian-man, who blindly supports Putin, because you are conditioned to believe he is righteous and strong, and anything that says otherwise is western propaganda, including Putin's own speech about calling Ukraine Nazis, maybe you should look at yourself first before accusing others of being brainwashed by propaganda.

firstly, he is really righteous and strong because only Russia makes America think before doing something, and secondly, Putin said that there are Nazis in Ukraine, but not everyone there is like that

Russia, outside it's oil exports, is relativity insignificant in the world. It just has a huge inferiority complex problem that makes it a pain in the ass in the world. And claiming a govermnet is strong, and righteous, is usually a good indication that you are indoctrinated into state sponsored propaganda, since those two things are age-old devices used to control you, while blinding you to certain other realities that are anything but righteous and strong. Many Americans don't believe America is strong or righteous, but full of problems - especially under certain presidents. Come into the 21st century.

In Russia, they make ships, rockets, wagons and trains, tractors, engines, cars, and yes, why should we enter the 21st century if we are so in it

So do a lot of other countries, but nothing original, unless you want to count the hyper-sonic missiles that Putin claims to have as he constantly threatens to blow up the world with, to look strong, while you get a 20th century boner over it.

And most people don't brag about having "wagons" and trains - unless they are high speed trains.

You asked what Russia produces and I answered


Never asked that. You just invented it to go on your on your own little tangent to get away from what I originally said. I said Russia is insignificant, outside their oil on the world market, while being insecure about it's standing in the world. Along with that, It's actions and policies are still stuck in the 20th century, with it's wars, authoritarian oligarchy, and it's propaganda about it being strong and righteous.


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At 6/21/22 04:49 PM, Russian-man wrote:*ANGRY ORC NOISES*

orky dorky noky ack tat blyat!

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-21 21:40:54


Just a quick reminder, Russia is a backwards country trying to shake off their inferiority complex with a naked land grab of a sovereign nation without so much as a plausible excuse. The fact that they’re constantly beaten back by the poorest nation in Europe means that militarily, they’re a paper tiger.


In a way though, you do have feel pity for the pro-Russia bots and their flimsy attempt at flexing for a lost cause. Back to the vodka bottle, Vladimir. (Pity and alcoholism do work together)


Just stop worrying, and love the bomb.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-21 21:56:20


I have to respect an actual tankie from Russia coming here to deliver his perspective. I don’t agree with it, but he’s welcome to keep trying to change peoples opinions. Good luck tho lol


At 6/21/22 09:40 PM, orangebomb wrote:Back to the vodka bottle, Vladimir. (Pity and alcoholism do work together)


This is about as original as saying “Oh look it’s the French flag 🏳 “


You can do better than that.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-22 03:02:05


At 6/21/22 09:56 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:I have to respect an actual tankie from Russia coming here to deliver his perspective.

To be fair

-If an account is 2-days old, yet

-Hones in directly to a political discussion board on an internet media website,

-Posts exclusively to threads about Russia, and

-Selects Alexander III as a PFP …


… I think the chance this is an actual Russian tankie is the equivalent of hoping for a perspective of life in the Middle East from Achmed the Dead Terrorist puppet.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-22 06:39:11


At 6/22/22 03:02 AM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:
At 6/21/22 09:56 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:I have to respect an actual tankie from Russia coming here to deliver his perspective.
To be fair
-If an account is 2-days old, yet
-Hones in directly to a political discussion board on an internet media website,
-Posts exclusively to threads about Russia, and
-Selects Alexander III as a PFP …


Wait did he really use a Tsar as his PFP? I missed that. Okay he might not be serious after all…


hello

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-22 09:25:01


At 6/21/22 09:56 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:I have to respect an actual tankie from Russia coming here to deliver his perspective. I don’t agree with it, but he’s welcome to keep trying to change peoples opinions. Good luck tho lol


First off, tankies and Tsars don’t mix. (See the Bolshevik Revolution)


Second, don’t respect the tankie’s viewpoint or convince us that he’s trying to change people’s opinions. The conflict is pretty much black and white (or light gray at worst) in terms of who’s the bad guy is and their motivations. While Russia may not be as cartoonishly evil as ISIL was at their height, there are plenty of similarities to go around.


At 6/21/22 09:40 PM, orangebomb wrote:Back to the vodka bottle, Vladimir. (Pity and alcoholism do work together)

This is about as original as saying “Oh look it’s the French flag 🏳 “

You can do better than that.


I don’t see how a bog standard stereotypical joke is any worse than some of the verbal slings and arrows that some people make against Americans.


Just stop worrying, and love the bomb.

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-22 11:49:44


"Russia has warned Lithuania of "serious" consequences after it banned the rail transfer of some goods to the Russian territory of Kaliningrad."


To think this could've been avoided had the area actually been given to the Lithuanian SSR as Khrushchev offered.


At 6/22/22 03:02 AM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:To be fair
-If an account is 2-days old, yet
-Hones in directly to a political discussion board on an internet media website,
-Posts exclusively to threads about Russia, and
-Selects Alexander III as a PFP …

… I think the chance this is an actual Russian tankie is the equivalent of hoping for a perspective of life in the Middle East from Achmed the Dead Terrorist puppet.


And Russian-man was never heard from again...


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-22 15:13:34


Distracted Putin Is About to Tumble Into a New Bloodbath, Officials Warn


ISTANBUL—Russia’s distraction over the war in Ukraine has forced its military presence to decrease in areas that may soon face a Turkish offensive, Syrian opposition officials told The Daily Beast this week.

The officials, including in the opposition Syrian National Army (SNA), said Moscow has withdrawn from several areas in northwestern Syria near the Turkish border, including Tal Rifaat, where Ankara has said it would carry out a military operation to combat the U.S.-backed Syrian Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG), which Turkey considers a terrorist group.

The SNA, a coalition of rebel groups backed by Turkey, would take part in the possible operation, according to Yusuf Hammoud, an officer and former spokesperson for the SNA.

Hammoud, who is based in northeastern Afrin, Syria, said Russia has decreased its presence in areas around Aleppo and Tal Rifaat.

“It will make it easier for Turkey to win this war,” Hammoud told The Daily Beast.


Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-22 15:28:43


At 6/22/22 11:49 AM, ChazDude wrote:"Russia has warned Lithuania of "serious" consequences after it banned the rail transfer of some goods to the Russian territory of Kaliningrad."


The article isn’t specific about the contents of the railway carts.


” The region - where an estimated one million people live - relies heavily on imports of raw materials and spare parts from Russia and the EU. “


If it’s something like ammo being blocked, I think that’s decent of Lithuania. But if they’re blocking food or important goods, that’s not necessary.


Lawful Neutral: they do technically own this land. It looks odd, but this has been owned by Russia for a very long time, despite not being connected by land. It has been Russia’s probably only gateway to the Atlantic if they don’t mind chopping through the Arctic Ocean for most of the year.


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To think this could've been avoided had the area actually been given to the Lithuanian SSR as Khrushchev offered.


Im all for political boundaries that make sense, and this makes no sense to me. I’ve seen Gerrymandered districts in the US more sane than this arrangement.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-06-23 11:53:22


Boris Johnson says the Russian army might soon run out of soldiers and weapons and lose its 'forward momentum' in Ukraine


Boris Johnson told European media outlets that Russia might soon run out of weapons and soldiers.

British intelligence on the Ukraine war suggests Russia may lose its "forward momentum," per Johnson.

Johnson said he intends to ask the G7 to aid Ukraine in a counter-offensive with more equipment.


Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-07-05 11:44:14


In Putin's Russia, the Arrests Are Spreading Quickly and Widely


They came for Dmitry Kolker, an ailing physicist, in the intensive care ward. They came for Ivan Fedotov, a hockey star, as he was leaving practice with a film crew in tow. They came for Vladimir Mau, a state university rector, the week he was reelected to the board of Gazprom.

The message sent by these high-profile detentions: Nearly anyone is now punishable in Vladimir Putin’s Russia.

The flurry of arrests across the country in recent days has signaled that the Kremlin is intent on tightening the noose around Russian society even further. It appears to be a manifestation of Putin’s declaration in the early weeks of his war in Ukraine that Russia needed to cleanse itself of pro-Western “scum and traitors,” and it is creating an unmistakable chill.


Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-07-05 13:29:27


At 6/22/22 03:28 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:
Im all for political boundaries that make sense, and this makes no sense to me. I’ve seen Gerrymandered districts in the US more sane than this arrangement.


Welcome to the wonky world of exclaved territory!


Aaaaall aboard TOOT TOOT!

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-07-18 13:05:42


Well, this is what Russia does, throw away as many lives as they can to win a war.


Russia used private mercenaries to reinforce frontline, British intelligence says


LONDON — Russia has used private mercenaries from the Kremlin’s shadowy private military to reinforce its depleted frontline, British intelligence said Monday.

In its daily intelligence update, Britain’s Ministry of Defense said that members of the Wagner Group had “almost certainly” participated in fighting — especially in the cities Popasna and Lysychansk, which were captured by Russian forces this month.

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense estimates that as of Monday, Russia has lost 38,450 army personnel in the 144 days of the war, with Russia claiming to have lost just 1,351.

British Defense Intelligence said Wagner had been reinforcing its forces on the frontline in a bid to mitigate “shortfalls and casualties.” The intelligence report also said that the group had been “lowering recruitment standards” and “hiring convicts and formerly blacklisted individuals” to help increase numbers.

Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-07-23 01:28:26



Common sense isn't so common anymore

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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-07-23 02:24:07


At 7/23/22 01:28 AM, LordJaric wrote:Gorbachev is reportedly not happy with the situation in Ukraine.

It’s news to me that he’s still alive.


I can’t find the Forbes Russia interview the article is referring to, but Gorbachev intended to run as an opposition leader a decade ago so it makes sense for him to be outwardly unhappy about the situation in Russia.


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Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-07-25 00:15:18 (edited 2022-07-25 00:15:31)


Short but interesting.


The Yale historian who predicted Trump’s fascist turn foresees Putin’s failure in Ukraine: ‘You pretend to win a war and we pretend to show enthusiasm’


A Yale historian who predicted former U.S. President Donald Trump's fascist turn contends Russian President Vladimir Putin is losing his war in Ukraine, saying the fact that other powerful Russians are speaking out means the despot is "lost in the fog of war."

"We now regularly hear ... from people aside from Putin (for example, former Prime Minister and President Dmitri Medvedev) about the meaning of the war, the catastrophic consequences that await Ukraine and the West, and so forth. This is a sign that Putin is losing control," said Timothy Snyder, Levin Professor of History at Yale, Saturday in a lengthy Twitter thread.

Among Snyder's myriad other reasons for the assertion: Russia's "doom propaganda" is serving as "rhetorical preparation for a power struggle after Putin falls," and "drastic proclamations" are serving as "evidence that important Russians think that Russia is losing."

Russia is capable of mobilizing its people for war "only at the level of emotions, not bodies," Snyder said, adding that the country has taken "horrible losses in men" since invading Ukraine in late February.

"Russian regions are now working hard to find highly paid 'volunteers' who are sent to die with little training," he said. "Putin is clearly afraid that a general mobilization would undo his popularity and bring down his regime. In this sense, he is weak."

Tentative factors like "mastery over rivals, soft support in the population, [and] integrity of the army" keep Putin in power—barely, Snyder said.

"Putin has been good at keeping us all in a fog. But now he himself seems lost in the fog of war."


Response to the Ukraine situation 2022-07-25 15:09:24


Long story short: Inflation is Putin's fault and if you blame Biden and all Democrats then you are a stupid redneck with a single digit IQ